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Submitted by Kamikaze8 295d ago | news

Penello: Microsoft will talk about Xbox One's architecture "very soon"

Examiner: "While Sony has repeatedly shown of portions of the PlayStation 4's dashboard and architecture, Microsoft has refrained from doing so. However, according to Albert Penello, Senior Director of Product Management, that will soon change." (Microsoft, Xbox One)

Credit url: examiner.com
Mikelarry  +   295d ago
its almost here ms the time is now to show everything you have got for the console, you can hold on to your games and slowly release them not the consoles
Gamingcapacity  +   295d ago
It will be interesting what they have since Major Nelson said he can't wait for the truth to come out about specs.

Hopefully he wasn't getting excited over something small similar to "It comes with batteries" tweet.
iamnsuperman  +   295d ago
Like the time when he hyped the PAX event and it turned out to be two playable demos. Nelson needs to be careful to not turn into Geoff Keighley

OT: I really doubt we are going to get any surprises with the architecture but still good to know
P0werVR  +   295d ago
Oh yeah!

Love these presentations.

I'm just wondering, why haven't Sony showed us anything. They've been so vague aside from their specs.
JokesOnYou  +   295d ago
Nah, I think micro has said and shown plenty in regards to specs and the dashboard=the reveal, E3, Hot chips, IGN fan Q&A, Penello on neogaf, and tons of responses to the media about how current policies work.
Parapraxis  +   295d ago
" Penello on neogaf"
Penello got called out for his PR BS on GAF, it was painful to watch.

I'm betting JokesonYou just forgot about this:
http://arstechnica.com/gami...
shoddy  +   295d ago
Spec this spec that.
just give up and face it.

xbone is weaker and more expensive than ps4.
it's a bad combination
scott182  +   295d ago
The thing I don't understand is why major Nelson got all worked up about Sony claiming it was the most powerful console. Sony said it, and of course they would say it, they want to sell their machine. They never claimed a power difference in percentage... If Major xbone wants to prove anything to someone he should be proving it to the devs! They are the ones that claimed a 30-50% difference in power. They are the ones who work with the machines and see the potential first hand, so prove it to them.
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gaffyh  +   295d ago
Honestly, I just want the full spec of both consoles out in the open once and for all. This assuming and guessing is getting a little annoying.

There is no smoke without fire, and the smoke says PS4 is up to 50% more powerful, now give us the facts (MS and Sony)(and we'll figure it out ourselves.
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P0werVR  +   295d ago
@gaffyh

Come one?! Stop the BS.

You and I know very well who has been more transparent with their architecture.

No one sets a Hot Chips presentation if you don't have anything to show, especially in this case the most obvious.

If there was anything unique during those presentations, don't you think Sony would have been along side AMD and Microsoft at Hot Chips showcasing the new APUs (HSA designs)?

Exactly!
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The_Fat_Boss  +   295d ago
@shoddy The combination of Kinect and Xbox One makes it more expensive than the PS4. I bet the console wouldn't be more expensive than the PS4 if it was sold without Kinect.
Hatsune-Miku  +   295d ago
Penello: Microsoft will tell more lies about the xbox one architecture very soon
Gamingcapacity  +   295d ago
I thought Sony we're open about their specs from the beginning. Cerny spoke a lot about the specs and did numerous presentations.

Either way the XBO will be a capable machine. It will have support for great games so in the end it really doesn't matter too much if games look a little bit lesser on it... unless you're a console-playing graphics-whore.
gaffyh  +   294d ago
@Power - Devs say it is 50% more powerful, that's the smoke. MS has still not released the full specs, Sony hasn't released much at all.
JokesOnYou  +   294d ago
gaffyh, What devs? Who exactly?...do you happen to have a link with names? If so please provide ANY direct quote from a dev who is currently working on a X1/ps4 title that has said ps4 is 50% more powerful.

Here's a couple examples that dont seem to think so:

“It’s almost amazing how close they are in capabilities, how common they are,” Carmack said. “And that the capabilities that they give are essentially the same.” -John Carmack
http://www.forbes.com/sites...

“The specs on paper would favour the PS4 over the Xbox One in terms of raw power, but there are many other factors involved so we’ll just have to wait and see a bit longer before making that judgment.” - Avalanche’s chief technical officer Linus Blomberg
http://pixelenemy.com/ps4-v...
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gaffyh  +   294d ago
@JOY - Carmack said they are similar in terms of architecture, which they are. Your second quote proves what I said is true, PS4 is more powerful in terms of raw power. That's the whole argument. Games can be good regardless of power.

It still amazes me that people can't see that, it's not about optimization or the games. The argument is about the power. You have four or five Devs that have said PS4 is up to 50% powerful, and many others that have hinted at it, yet people seem to think these people are liars.

Anyone with an ounce of sense would at least wonder why the Devs are saying that? Maybe because it's true? Oh no, that would make too much sense
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Bzone24  +   294d ago
@gaffyh
"You have four or five Devs that have said PS4 is up to 50% powerful"

Yet you didn't answer joy's question of who?
falviousuk  +   294d ago
Ill answer, one of those devs is Mr Blow, who said that the xbox one is not as fast, but then again he hates MS with a passion which was seen by his (innacurate) tweets during E3.

But the sony fanboys cling to it with a passion that only they know in their special sony fanboy world.

Both consoles will have amazing games. And both consoles will have poor games. Gaming is about gameplay not who has the biggest silicon hard on
P0werVR  +   294d ago
@gaffyh

"Devs say it is 50% more powerful, that's the smoke. MS has still not released the full specs, Sony hasn't released much at all."

Of course it's the smoke, and why you been "fogged" by that tid bit of info. And for you to go out your way and say it's NOT ABOUT optimization shows you know NOTHING.

Raw components mean nothing if you can't integrate them together and optimize it. That is why we are moving into an era of high optimizations and that is a great thing.

http://www.vgleaks.com/worl...

Wonder why Sony has been so vague on their design? Because of x86, equals ONLY 3.5 gigs for gaming....j/k!

EDIT:

Also, that is about the only notices of their design along with a very few that we've come across compared to Microsoft with it's architectural panel and Hot Chips presentations.
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christocolus  +   295d ago
Mr Penello nice dude...amd just announced their new gpu(hawaii )and gave some new info about its tech,so if there really was any nda between amd and ms then my guess is that after the amd announcement the nda may have been lifted and ms will now be able to discuss more on the xbox one gpu when giving details of the xbox one architecture.....(im just stating this based on info from what ive read online...i could be wrong.)
BallsEye  +   295d ago
They will most likely show off stereo drivers and hidden architecture (the unnamed chips in hotchip presentation) just as I was saying that it will happen by end of this month. XO is stronger than most of you think...NDA raising... I call it... 26th is coming
christocolus  +   294d ago
Let's keep our fingers crossed then..looking forward to it.
thisismyaccount  +   294d ago
25th of September 2013 :)

....according to those FCC reports.
Crazay  +   294d ago
I read somewhere that the reason they havent been able to divulge everything yet is because some NDAs are in place with AMD in reference to some of the unannounced tech in this box. I'm pretty intrigued to hear whatever they have to tell us.
Drewminati  +   295d ago
lets see what happens next week
Dlacy13g  +   295d ago
at this point that is the best and honestly only option. We shall all see soon enough.
Thisisjuju  +   295d ago
I think it will go down like this...

Step 1: News release announced: Microsoft will talk about Xbox One's architecture "very soon"

Step 2: Microsoft talks about the system architecture

Step 3: Microsoft later retracts all statements and "clarifies" the issue

This seems to be pretty much rinse and repeat for every announcement.
tokugawa  +   295d ago
thursday the 26th perhaps??
Convas  +   295d ago
Heh Heh Heh.

I like the way you think.
tokugawa  +   295d ago
lol bubs +
lifeisgamesok  +   295d ago
Hehehe 9/26 or 9/30 I think we find out about the true power of Oban ;)
boneso82  +   294d ago
You mean 26/9 or 30/9 yeah?
BallsEye  +   295d ago
the storm is coming. n4g will burn ;] predictions being true so far.
Sm00thNinja  +   295d ago
At this point I expect no suprised with the architecture. The PS4 is obviously the more powerful console. By how much is the question. Microsofts initial lineup is stronger IMO so following those up with more strong exclusives is key. Microsoft is more likely to see a launch hangover at this point than Sony. Lots of PS4 announced exclusives a few Xbone.
P0werVR  +   295d ago
Aside from specs since when, what have they really show us?! I guarantee you can't come up with anything.

Beside hUMA, which doesn't make sense since it hasn't been released yet, but either way both consoles use HSA naturally. I have not come across anything as of yet.

Which is very suspicious.
Gozer  +   295d ago
Its not obvious at all. Ryse and Forza 5 looks better than anything shown for ps4. If the ps4 is indeed more capable, they have yet to prove it. And if the ps4 is indeed more powerful, it certainly isn't 50% more powerful.
scott182  +   295d ago
No game on the xb one has so much going on at one time that killzone sf does. Constant particle effects in battle, realistic explosions, dynamic lighting, fire, water, HUGE draw distance, amazing graphics and super smooth animation.
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Gozer  +   295d ago
Youre blind. Killzone SF barely looks like a next-gen title. It looks cartoony. Ryse looks like near cgi, and Drive Club cant hold a candle to Forza 5.
Ryse
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Killzone SF
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Not even close to looking as good as Ryse.

But I understand you are buying a ps4 only and you want to justify your purchase.
xKugo   295d ago | Trolling | show
dantesparda  +   295d ago
So Gozer starts the trolling but its xKugo that's gets charged with trolling? Yeah, but all the mods are Sony fanboys right? This site is ran by nothing but Sony fanboys right?
Jeedai Infidel  +   295d ago
@dantesparda, what most people on this site fail to realize is that if one butts in to other people's(in this case, an xbox article)conversation with asinine comments , then by most mature adult standards, they come out as the one who looks rude and immature. If one did this in the real world, then most people would understand when someone punched them in their shallow-stating mouth.
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black0o  +   295d ago
LOL .. when IGN/GS..etc all agree that KZ:SF is show cast for the G-powers of the ps4 with soled gameply and looked at 1080p

and u want to spin thing and try to downply KZ by comparing it to ryse
#nice try
SonyAddict  +   295d ago
You sound like a 10 year old!.
boneso82  +   294d ago
Lol you said "if" the ps3 is more powerful as if you don't know but then you state in a factual way that it is not 50% more powerful, you can't do both. And all of this is based on your opinion of 2 launch games, neither of which you have played yet, haha, you've done yourself proud!
thekhurg  +   294d ago
Stupid alert!
DigitalRaptor  +   294d ago
@ Gozer

You just exposed the truth using two video links.

You didn't even bother explaining why you believe Ryse is better looking but video footage says it all. Let's post some more video shall we?

http://www.gamersyde.com/st...

KZ:SF - a game with more dynamic gameplay, hugely impressive particle and elemental effects, impressive draw distances, smooth animatiions, fluid and rapid gameplay, 1080/30fps going 60fps, all whilst still being in control of the game (unlike Ryse) . So you can say you believe Ryse is better looking, but it will never make it so.

And you're trying to tell me one game looks cartoony over the other? Look no further than Forza 5: http://fc04.deviantart.net/... The game looks beautiful, but it still cartoony to the power of cartoony. I'm half expecting that car to stop and a Pixar character to step out. Compare that to a realistic looking racer like this with actual dynamic non-baked lighting http://www.abload.de/img/dc... http://gamefont.files.wordp...
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n4rc  +   295d ago
There is NOTHING obvious except the wishful thinking...

Ps4 has advantages and disadvantages.. Gddr5 is great for GPU but bad for CPU tasks for example..

People that somehow think a slightly better gpu always forget the 360 had a more powerful gpu... It didnt make ps3 games look worse but it somehow means it will make thr x1 worse off..
dantesparda  +   295d ago
"Gddr5 is great for GPU but bad for CPU tasks for example.. "

Well then tell that to AMD (you know the obvious idiots that made the APU's for these systems) cuz they recommend that you couple your APU with GDDR5 for a lot better performance.
n4rc  +   295d ago
Link or It didn't happen.. I've never seen anything from amd stating that
black0o  +   295d ago
GDDR its bad for apps and running heavy OS it's not bad for cpu whn it comes to games even lighter OS like android

GDDR its the ram that was build to run games with the best efficiency for both GPU and CPU
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Ezz2013  +   295d ago
what disadvantages ps4 have ?!
it have nothing but advantages over xbox1

and lol at the "Slightly" better GPU
p4 GPU being 40-50% more powerful than xbox gpu is not "Slightly"...there is HUGE gap here

also this is far from being the same as xbox360/ps3 GPUs because both consoles GPUs were very close in power ...very close

i really don't know how it is possible to compare this gen with next gen when they share nothing in commen
ps3 had little weaker gpu and much powerful cpu and the same amount of ram as xbox360 but was split and at first was hard to work with

but this time ps4 have much stronger gpu and the same cpu with better/faster ram and use more for games as well and as easy to work with as xbox1 or even more

like i said this gen share nothing with next gen

EDIT: here is the link from AMD as of why GDDR5 Ram is better than DDR3 Ram
http://www.amd.com/us/produ...
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dantesparda  +   294d ago
@narc
There, did you see the link? So much for your "Link or it didnt happen" philosophy. Heck, AMD is claiming double the bandwidth and at least a 20% performance increase over DDR3 with half the amount of RAM. So how'ya like them apples.
BallsEye  +   295d ago
There has been too many clues left around so I can guarantee you MS will reveal somehting big. From hidden chips and their talk about mono drivers released so far (so there has to be stereo drivers), unnamed chips to power brick with basicly 2x more power in it (strong hardware need strong PSU. The games like ryse with cone raytracing and 140k polygon characters, forza with their super advanced lighting and quantum break claimed to be running real time, can not be handled by such a weak setup like so far revealed XO. There has to be something more to it.
DigitalRaptor  +   294d ago
"forza with their super advanced lighting"

Sorry, I thought I almost died of laughter.
ThanatosDMC  +   294d ago
Really? Check out those gif links above to see how stupid Forza's lighting works compared to Drive Club's.
FrigidDARKNESS  +   295d ago
HoPefully they will finally reveal the GPU and customized specil chips. Micron Technology is handling the DDR3 design want to know about that and if its stacked or not. I expect an xbox one tech engineer to explain the architecture not Penello this may happen on the 30th.
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ShwankyShpanky  +   295d ago
Who needs engineers or Penello when we have MisterXmedia?
FrigidDARKNESS  +   295d ago
Lets see there are others in the mix B3D SeniAccurate and Anatech . These are awesome tech sites you may want to visit you'll learn somethung.
ShwankyShpanky  +   295d ago
Don't forget arstechnica.

http://arstechnica.com/gami...
pedrof93  +   295d ago
How do you know what they are going to reveal ?
rainslacker  +   295d ago
He doesn't. This will be the third time(I think, may be more) that everything he claims MS will wow us with won't come to fruition.

He's taking the Patcher approach. Say a bunch of stuff, and eventually he's bound to be right at least one time. Patcher does it with more success though.

When you actually start talking technical, his sources flounder, and he can't really make any reasonable argument except to call the other person a fan boy or misinformed. He doesn't have a clue what he's talking about, and just clings to whatever positive thing some other smuck on the internet might say, again not even really understanding it.

It's kind of funny...in a very sad way.
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MRMagoo123  +   295d ago
I cant wait ill the 30th so you can stfu about all this fake BS you keep spouting along with elite24retard. We all know it isnt true the devs know it isnt true MS know it isnt true, yet you still cling on to it like sh!t clings to a sheeps arse.
FrigidDARKNESS  +   295d ago
These type of comments are expected from you folks on the other side.
DigitalRaptor  +   294d ago
And credulousness is what is expected from MS supporters.
DoubleM70  +   295d ago
Ha that was my holmie he answered on twitter.
Lord Maim  +   295d ago
Sony did their reveal day and date of the announcement. MS just did four months of damage control and quoted no statistics other than 5 billion transistors. I don't think they'd be taking body blow after body blow in the press if they had a rabbit left in their hat to turn the tide.
B1663r  +   295d ago
Hmmm... That is one way to spin Micrsofts total domination of the media the last few months, but not the one that I would use. I mean the n4g and gaf hive minds have tried to spin the X1 as bad, but seeing as it is on track to be the largest console release in history, I don't think the haters have had the impact that they hoped to have...
torchic  +   295d ago
it must suck being that delusional.
xKugo  +   295d ago
Pre-orders are a ratio of 3:1 STILL in favor of PS4 even after the minor upgrades. You better hope Xbox pulls a giant fucking rabbit out of their ass or your stuck with the inferior console for the entire generation.
n4rc  +   295d ago
Can you dumbasses stop pulling stats out of your asses please..

First it was 4:1.. Then 3:1... Then amazon reported it was really closer to 2:1..logic and common sense indicate it probably even less now..

You have nothing to base that claim off of.. Not one single source
Hicken  +   295d ago
Dominating?

Hmm... that's one way to spin Microsoft's drubbing in the media these last few months.

How in the hell can it be the largest console release in history when it's definitely not gonna be launching in the most countries in history, and not likely to be launching the most consoles in history?

Delusional just is not a strong enough word for this BS.
rainslacker  +   295d ago
Not hard to spin something that already circling the drain.

Fanboy comment aside

MS domination of the media has been almost wholly negative since the reveal. Their positive notes come across as PR with no substance. It doesn't take a hive mind to see these things, it takes a hive mind to accept the positive things as truth without dissecting the information for what it's really worth.

If MS had the more powerful console, they would be screaming it from the rooftops, and saying exactly why it is more powerful. They are trying hard to convince people as it is, so why not just shut the nay-sayers up?

If MS was outselling PS4 they would also be screaming that from the rooftops. Just today, there was an article how the 360 is the dominate console in the UK...something they screamed from the rooftops, although they disregarded the Wii's sales, and the rest of the world.

So my question to you is, if they scream that kind of stuff from the rooftop, why have they all of a sudden become so humble with the Xbox One? It's not in their MO.
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Jamaicangmr  +   295d ago
@ B1663r

Omg! they should study you. Dear God ur delusions are some of the most advanced i've ever seen.
lifeisgamesok  +   295d ago
Three words Non-disclosure agreement.....

With AMD
MRMagoo123  +   295d ago
3 words.

there isnt one
Lord Maim  +   295d ago
Bullshit. All this time Sony has been saying that the PS4 is the most powerful console on the market. They could get sued if it weren't the absolute truth. All Microsoft would have to do is say "no, they're not" and quote some stats to back it up. That would shut everyone up. Instead, they hedge and say, wait and see. Or power is more than stats can say. They put out press releases every day to make sure that people think that maybe it isn't as bad as it seems, but it is. It really goddamn is. You want an Xbox One? Fine, go buy one. Just know what you're getting and buy it for the exclusives. Don't let Microsoft delude you into buying one because the specs on it and the PS4 are "basically the same".
Whitey2k  +   295d ago
I dont c the point in this they or he already said or stated that ps4 is already stronger even the developers said that x1 is weaker no need to talk about architecture n just talk about games
Hercules189  +   295d ago
Yeah so the ps4 is a little stronger but we still want to know by how much, because right now "gamers" and so called "anonymous devs" are really starting to shove this 50% thing down everyones throats and thats when microsoft is going to tell us that they arent going to be as big as a difference as we think. Do you really think microsoft wants ppl to think that sony has that much of a power advantage when it really isnt.
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ThatCanadianGuy514  +   295d ago
You're so delusional.

Wow.
Nekroo91  +   295d ago
actually there is, MS decided to make us buy kinect so to make the console affordable they have to use weaker specs.
hell they were expecting for sony to use 4gb of gddr5 , even sony was expecting that...theres a reason why the xbox+ kinect its already making profits while the sony loses 60 bucks for each console sold, because the console it self as better specs so the components are more expensive
Kuse  +   295d ago
It had better be really soon, I have a PS4 and Xbox One Pre-Order and I need to know which one to keep for Day 1.

:(
thrust  +   295d ago
Wow! Are you basing your purchase on hardware and specs?

Am going for what suits me and my gaming....
Kuse  +   295d ago
I do agree in one respect. The Xbox One has games that I am more interested in but I don't want to buy a console that is 100 bucks more and have less performance as a result.

Its a tough call cause I've been an Xbox fan since the very first console...

That and it just seems Microsoft has been very quiet and not very forthcoming about a lot of issues that people have regarding the new console.
Gozer  +   295d ago
Don't forget dedicated servers. The X1 will have a superior online service thanks to their dedicated servers.
KwietStorm  +   295d ago
And THIS is what you're basing it on? o_O
redwin  +   295d ago
You do know that the ps3 is more powerful than the 360 and that meant nothing. Just go for the games u like.
Alvidta  +   295d ago
People still on this so called hype-train with ps4? something tells me you guys will be disappointed to find out both consoles ain't much different, obviously Microsoft still have some to show and help understand, PS4 is more simple and probably why it's more powerful. they don't fully know how to use xbox one power; also these devs you speak of? seem to be the only type who can't make great games. and really only indie or horrible looking games as it is.
otherZinc  +   295d ago
@Alvidta,

Great Post!

I've been saying that to everyone; the devs talkin s**t, can't make good games!
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Pancit_Canton  +   295d ago
Is not like devs have been talking about it the entire time. They just need to admit it that they built the xbone based on TV and sports in mind not games.
thrust  +   295d ago
But they didn't hahaha, they built it on all of them things :/, troll!
ThatCanadianGuy514  +   295d ago
http://www.gamespot.com/for...

I'll just leave this here.
thrust  +   295d ago
So just because they did not target full gfx means they do not like games, muhahahahahaha ok mate!

Like I said they are targeting everything a lot of nice features to look forward to I can not wait, if your not getting one why are you so bothered.
theWB27  +   295d ago
@DayZ
That means absolutely nothing. Sony didn't target high end graphics either...if they did you'd be getting a system that would run games beyond 1080p and 60+fps. You wouldn't hear about Evolution or GG targeting 60fps...it would just do it.

Ya know...the kind of system that PC gamers would be jealous of. But we all know that isn't the case.
ThatCanadianGuy514  +   295d ago
Means they didn't put money into the system being a powerhouse.

Which shows, when you compare GPU's.
thrust  +   295d ago
Compare CPUs?
XboxFun  +   295d ago
And yet the launch games for Xbox One look just as good as anything on PS4?

interesting....

But of course this goes unnoticed by the blind Sony fanboys as they keep regurgitating spoon fed 50% power in every comment section.

It's RAM, Cell and hUMA all over again.
PFFT  +   295d ago
Sony fanboys, they dont like their system they just hate yours.
xxxxx01  +   295d ago
As much as i like my ps3 and xbox 360 this 50% percent BS you fanboys keep posting is funny as hell the games im seeing from the ps4 n xbox one are the same and run 60 fps .

ps4 50% perccent more powerful system than the xbox one hahaha .
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redwin  +   295d ago
You gonna make these guys upset. Let them troll.
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DigitalRaptor  +   294d ago
@ XboxFun

"Launch games". Exactly. Launch games. I know you guys are never really ready to look ahead at any stage of the game, but the long-term is really what you should be conscious of.
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xKugo  +   295d ago
I'll make sure to tune in, when what's under the hood is finally up for show. Should be quite interesting...
forcefullpower  +   295d ago
You are so full of shit. It is not even funny. GAF asked you and its taken you weeks to get your fake answers correct. If I was asked at work for answers and gave them 2 weeks I would be sacked for not knowing what my job was.
tokugawa  +   295d ago
gaf is over-rated and its community is as well! the only good thing about gaf are the top notch mods. (nineball check em out lol ;-) ) now i am not saying n4g is better either lol

but seriously, there is more than whiff of fanboyism on that site now, and it is only the fear of the mods that holds it in check!

also, alot people over there seem to think that they matter, i saw a thread where they were talking about how most devs should be scared about what gaffers say about their games.. gtfo. they are all up their own arses.

the only good thing is the occasional cboat stuff... and he aint always right! in all honesty, the most mature and knowledgeable community is without doubt on b3d.
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Belking  +   295d ago
I told you guys they are are waiting for the NDA to expire before they reveal the full specs.I think a lot of people are gonna be surprised, but not me.
Nekroo91  +   295d ago
and there goes you bubble. i imagine why...delusional fanboy
akaFullMetal  +   294d ago
If some how you are wrong, will you give us, "normal gamers who don't care what system people get," an apology for encouraging fake rumors and causing fan-boy trouble?
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JuniorCE  +   295d ago
XBox 1 turn on my PS4!
jjb1981  +   295d ago
I care more about what the third party devs say because Sony and Microsoft are trying to sell us a system.
Tooly  +   295d ago
ps4 still has specs thats not known the xboxone.
gamer2013  +   295d ago
Do you think if that was true then perhaps Sony, Cerny or a few game sites would have mentioned it?
Tooly  +   295d ago
so you can tell me the ps4 clock speed and the specs cerny said they will be able to unlock further in the ps4 life cycle
cabbitwithscissors  +   295d ago
Let's hope that the truth comes out on the 26th and not more BS from marketing executive.

Seriously, there's nothing much of significance they can mention to change the outlook and responses we have seen so far.
urwifeminder  +   295d ago
Not buying for power anyway you like power build a pc xb1 could be as powerful as wii u and would still get.
Sarobi  +   295d ago
I know there is a lot of people hoping there is some kind of secret technology that will boost X1 to be 50x more powerful than PS4. Realistically these devices will be neck and neck with each other, and it shouldn't be hard to realize that.
XabiDaChosenOne  +   295d ago
I wish it was next week already so this NDA can lift and finally reveal these "specs"
meatysausage  +   295d ago
Serious question to sony fans here.
seeing as we know as of now that the ps4 will be more powerful. Is there anyone here that is unimpressed or unhappy with what they have seen for the XBO graphics?
honest opinions
Drewminati  +   295d ago
i don't think you'll get a honest answer
SCW1982  +   295d ago
I am considered a SONY fanboy but I do think that the stills of Ryse look graphically impressive.
voodoogts  +   295d ago
M$ don't need to talk about their specs. Their games do the talking.
quenomamen  +   295d ago
Yea, unfortunately Killer Instinct has a Cleft Palate.
oscarcat59  +   295d ago
The best games I played did not have the best graphics. If I care so much about that I would play on a pc. I care more about steady frame rates and fast load times. Also the os of the console is more important to me than pretty moving pictures. If the console has great games and operating system I will choose it. I do not care about the other much.
XB1_PS4  +   294d ago
Twilight princess was one of my favorites last gen. That runs at 480p, and every pixel made me happy.
quenomamen  +   295d ago
I'm guessing it will something like this,

" The Xbox One features half a cagillion transistors, it's GPU features dual band double wide vectorizing pipelines that can output 3 million pixelations a second. It's double stacked
Supercalifragilisticexpialidoc ious ESRAM memory can " in theory " travel than the speed of sound, and if you add in Teh Cloud, youre looking at 3 times that power.

X bots - See I told it was more powerfull than PS4 ! He used Supercalifragilisticexpialidoc ious ! We all know what that means.
beerzombie  +   295d ago
" MS decided to make us buy kinect so to make the console affordable they have to use weaker specs"

They have not made anybody buy anything.This is their design and what they are selling; if you do not like it then shut up and don't buy it. They have a vision for their gamming future and how they want to progress this generation using cloud and Kinect. Sony is just making an powerful gaming device nothing else they have no vision that I can see so go ahead and play all "killshity" in 1080p that you want and leave.
blomman79  +   294d ago
Hmm. Remember Sony say why be first out when you can whait for the other ro reveal ther spec and do it better? Hmm. Guess ms just did that. Now Both companys are well into produtions of ther hardware, and ms is about to reveal the true spec of the xbox. And maybe kinect also had some type of spec to help the one, remember xbox only works whit kinect. I just speculating. And if so game over Sony. Sorry for My english.
5eriously  +   294d ago
Rather be sorry for the sad and hopeless "wish" for some miracle to happen!
5eriously  +   294d ago
Hmm, I can aleardy envisage..

Penello : " We listened to you our faithful fanatic supporters ....(glancing over at PS4 preorder no's)... So we have overclocked the CPU/GPU by 10% and now that together with the power of cloud will give unprecedented performance boosts never ever achieved by........(glancing over at PS4 spec's)...us (M$)...."Sigh".. Penello take a deep breath and reaches for a glass of water thinking "{why oh why is it so damn hot in here}"...
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Tooly  +   294d ago
To funny
ballisticvoodoo  +   294d ago
@Blomman79 There might be a few subtle changes but to insinuate that MS will somehow trump the PS4 specs is really a stretch.
timotim  +   294d ago
I look forward to hearing more about this. Getting an X1 either way but would be great to learn more about the missing pieces they have purposefully not talked about yet.

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