Examiner: "While Sony has repeatedly shown of portions of the PlayStation 4's dashboard and architecture, Microsoft has refrained from doing so. However, according to Albert Penello, Senior Director of Product Management, that will soon change."
its almost here ms the time is now to show everything you have got for the console, you can hold on to your games and slowly release them not the consoles
It will be interesting what they have since Major Nelson said he can't wait for the truth to come out about specs. Hopefully he wasn't getting excited over something small similar to "It comes with batteries" tweet.
Like the time when he hyped the PAX event and it turned out to be two playable demos. Nelson needs to be careful to not turn into Geoff Keighley OT: I really doubt we are going to get any surprises with the architecture but still good to know
Oh yeah! Love these presentations. I'm just wondering, why haven't Sony showed us anything. They've been so vague aside from their specs.
Nah, I think micro has said and shown plenty in regards to specs and the dashboard=the reveal, E3, Hot chips, IGN fan Q&A, Penello on neogaf, and tons of responses to the media about how current policies work.
Penello on GAF: http://i.qkme.me/3p9o7u.jpg
" Penello on neogaf" Penello got called out for his PR BS on GAF, it was painful to watch. I'm betting JokesonYou just forgot about this: http://arstechnica.com/gami...
Spec this spec that. just give up and face it. xbone is weaker and more expensive than ps4. it's a bad combination
The thing I don't understand is why major Nelson got all worked up about Sony claiming it was the most powerful console. Sony said it, and of course they would say it, they want to sell their machine. They never claimed a power difference in percentage... If Major xbone wants to prove anything to someone he should be proving it to the devs! They are the ones that claimed a 30-50% difference in power. They are the ones who work with the machines and see the potential first hand, so prove it to them.
Honestly, I just want the full spec of both consoles out in the open once and for all. This assuming and guessing is getting a little annoying. There is no smoke without fire, and the smoke says PS4 is up to 50% more powerful, now give us the facts (MS and Sony)(and we'll figure it out ourselves.
@gaffyh Come one?! Stop the BS. You and I know very well who has been more transparent with their architecture. No one sets a Hot Chips presentation if you don't have anything to show, especially in this case the most obvious. If there was anything unique during those presentations, don't you think Sony would have been along side AMD and Microsoft at Hot Chips showcasing the new APUs (HSA designs)? Exactly!
@shoddy The combination of Kinect and Xbox One makes it more expensive than the PS4. I bet the console wouldn't be more expensive than the PS4 if it was sold without Kinect.
Penello: Microsoft will tell more lies about the xbox one architecture very soon
I thought Sony we're open about their specs from the beginning. Cerny spoke a lot about the specs and did numerous presentations. Either way the XBO will be a capable machine. It will have support for great games so in the end it really doesn't matter too much if games look a little bit lesser on it... unless you're a console-playing graphics-whore.
@Power - Devs say it is 50% more powerful, that's the smoke. MS has still not released the full specs, Sony hasn't released much at all.
gaffyh, What devs? Who exactly?...do you happen to have a link with names? If so please provide ANY direct quote from a dev who is currently working on a X1/ps4 title that has said ps4 is 50% more powerful. Here's a couple examples that dont seem to think so: “It’s almost amazing how close they are in capabilities, how common they are,” Carmack said. “And that the capabilities that they give are essentially the same.” -John Carmack http://www.forbes.com/sites... “The specs on paper would favour the PS4 over the Xbox One in terms of raw power, but there are many other factors involved so we’ll just have to wait and see a bit longer before making that judgment.” - Avalanche’s chief technical officer Linus Blomberg http://pixelenemy.com/ps4-v...
@JOY - Carmack said they are similar in terms of architecture, which they are. Your second quote proves what I said is true, PS4 is more powerful in terms of raw power. That's the whole argument. Games can be good regardless of power. It still amazes me that people can't see that, it's not about optimization or the games. The argument is about the power. You have four or five Devs that have said PS4 is up to 50% powerful, and many others that have hinted at it, yet people seem to think these people are liars. Anyone with an ounce of sense would at least wonder why the Devs are saying that? Maybe because it's true? Oh no, that would make too much sense
@gaffyh "You have four or five Devs that have said PS4 is up to 50% powerful" Yet you didn't answer joy's question of who?
Ill answer, one of those devs is Mr Blow, who said that the xbox one is not as fast, but then again he hates MS with a passion which was seen by his (innacurate) tweets during E3. But the sony fanboys cling to it with a passion that only they know in their special sony fanboy world. Both consoles will have amazing games. And both consoles will have poor games. Gaming is about gameplay not who has the biggest silicon hard on
@gaffyh "Devs say it is 50% more powerful, that's the smoke. MS has still not released the full specs, Sony hasn't released much at all." Of course it's the smoke, and why you been "fogged" by that tid bit of info. And for you to go out your way and say it's NOT ABOUT optimization shows you know NOTHING. Raw components mean nothing if you can't integrate them together and optimize it. That is why we are moving into an era of high optimizations and that is a great thing. http://www.vgleaks.com/worl... Wonder why Sony has been so vague on their design? Because of x86, equals ONLY 3.5 gigs for gaming....j/k! EDIT: Also, that is about the only notices of their design along with a very few that we've come across compared to Microsoft with it's architectural panel and Hot Chips presentations.
Mr Penello nice dude...amd just announced their new gpu(hawaii )and gave some new info about its tech,so if there really was any nda between amd and ms then my guess is that after the amd announcement the nda may have been lifted and ms will now be able to discuss more on the xbox one gpu when giving details of the xbox one architecture.....(im just stating this based on info from what ive read online...i could be wrong.)
They will most likely show off stereo drivers and hidden architecture (the unnamed chips in hotchip presentation) just as I was saying that it will happen by end of this month. XO is stronger than most of you think...NDA raising... I call it... 26th is coming
Let's keep our fingers crossed then..looking forward to it.
25th of September 2013 :) ....according to those FCC reports.
I read somewhere that the reason they havent been able to divulge everything yet is because some NDAs are in place with AMD in reference to some of the unannounced tech in this box. I'm pretty intrigued to hear whatever they have to tell us.
lets see what happens next week
at this point that is the best and honestly only option. We shall all see soon enough.
I think it will go down like this... Step 1: News release announced: Microsoft will talk about Xbox One's architecture "very soon" Step 2: Microsoft talks about the system architecture Step 3: Microsoft later retracts all statements and "clarifies" the issue This seems to be pretty much rinse and repeat for every announcement.
thursday the 26th perhaps??
Heh Heh Heh. I like the way you think.
lol bubs +
Hehehe 9/26 or 9/30 I think we find out about the true power of Oban ;)
You mean 26/9 or 30/9 yeah?
the storm is coming. n4g will burn ;] predictions being true so far.