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Submitted by Jdoki 208d ago | news

No TV features for Xbox One at launch (for Europe)

Only America and Japan will have access to the Xbox One’s interactive TV features at launch, with Europe and the UK forced to wait until later.

Microsoft has confirmed that the TV features highlighted at the Xbox One’s unveiling in May will not be available at launch in Europe. (Microsoft, Xbox One)

pedrof93  +   208d ago
Yep. I don't care.
u got owned  +   208d ago
Not good MS.
MEGANE  +   208d ago
So much for " tv, tv,tv, tv, tv tv, tv, tv, tv,....and game, tv, tv, tv, tv...cod dog, tv, tv, tv"... hahaha
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Mike134nl  +   208d ago
I hope that at least the IR-blaster will still work to turn on the tv.
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gaffyh  +   208d ago
Just confirms that the reveal event in May which was broadcast worldwide, was just for the American audience. We all suspected it, and this confirms it. MS is so unprepared it's actually sad.
ICECREAM  +   207d ago
What a useless piece of Sh...it
shoddy  +   207d ago
In the mean time just press the source button on the TV remote for now to switch to TV.
JokesOnYou  +   207d ago
Yeah shoddy in the meantime whether its X1 or ps4 you just have to use your cable box separately(in Europe).

OK, OK, so let me get this straight essentially microsoft has promised as much as sony and MORE TV functionality, both won't have some things available at launch, 1 of micros biggest features wont be ready in Europe making it essentially on par feature wise with ps4 in Europe. So its plus in US and even in Europe where both just essentially have games at launch, with micro still having the higher quantity of AAA games and imo the better qaulity of launch games in too.

How is not having TV functionality that ps4 doesnt have either at launch in Europe while having all the TV functionality in US which ps4 doesnt have terrible news for micro? By my count thats 1 point for micro in the US, with at worst a draw in Europe. I don't see how we are basicly trying penalize the one who is at least attempting to offer MORE OPTIONS. Plus you got to excuse my laughter hearing so many who "don't care about tv" now say "omg this isn't ready"...pfft OK, lol but I am relieved I live in the US.

gaffyh by that same logic sony has "backtracked" to us since the 1st reveal of the ps4 controller, to include E3, to include Yoshida interview, to include Mark Cernys late night tv on air talk about the share button/direct youtube upload sony has promoted that feature all we know now is that "its coming" same as this for micro. No cries of inconsistency from you inthat regard? Of course not.
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gaffyh  +   207d ago
@JOY - "How is not having TV functionality that ps4 doesnt have either at launch in Europe while having all the TV functionality in US which ps4 doesnt have terrible news for micro?"

Simple, because they focused so much on TV, and now they're backtracking saying it won't be available at launch. Their message is inconsistent at best, and incompetent at worst.
XboxFun  +   207d ago
So having no TV features which every Sony fanboy complained about is now a BAD thing and inconsistent with their message?

It is coming and it will be there and in the meantime you CAN play the great games still available at launch for the Xbox One.

Wow, I tell you...
Hicken  +   207d ago
It's a big deal because they put all their eggs in the TV basket, talking it up and spending HUGE amounts of money on it.

Yes, we PS fans- and plenty more- think it's utterly stupid that they've spent so much time focusing on TV deals and content. But you've gotta admit it's even DUMBER for them to have this massive feature that's one of the core draws of their console hardly be available.

Are you serious? JokesOnYou, XboxFun, are you guys absolutely serious with your comments?

And you talk about PlayStation fanboys...
XboxFun  +   207d ago
@Hicken

"It's a big deal because they put all their eggs in the TV basket, talking it up and spending HUGE amounts of money on it."

Please just stop! They have also spent huge amounts of money in GAMING. You know Hicken, the thing we all do on this site.

MS has also spent HUGE amounts of money on DR3, Titanfall, Quantum Break, D4, Crimson Dragon, Project Spark, Forza 5, etc etc

Oh how about that huge amount on new games and game studios that they said in their presentation reveal? I love how you keep skipping over that.
How about that HUGE amount on dedicated servers offered for FREE for any dev that wants to utilize them.

"Yes, we PS fans- and plenty more- think it's utterly stupid that they've spent so much time focusing on TV deals and content"

I just LOVE your sony selective minds and your ability to only see what you want. Did Sony not just announce the Vita TV? Did Sony not just announce deals with television companies for exclusive TV content for their PS4?

They are doing the EXACT same thing MS is.
JokesOnYou  +   207d ago
"Yes, we PS fans- and plenty more- think it's utterly stupid that they've spent so much time focusing on TV deals and content."

lol Hicken yeah sure as if since E3 microsoft has been talking TV. You mean the nfl deal? I mean name all these deals and all this content you speak of that micro won't shut up about?

Yet I see Microsoft/devs talking much MORE about a combination of any these games, features and policies on a daily basis which of course you should be well aware of because sonyfanboys like you quickly jump on every X1 thread like a pack of rabid dogs to hate on just about every thread that mentions these topics:

Ryse
Forza 5
KI
DR3
Titanfall
Project Spark (haven't seen any hate for this I admit)
Cloud
Kinect
Dedicated Servers
X1 architecture
Indie support
Online

=These are the things micro has been talking about most for X1....but of course you conveniently only want to focus on their tv plans. I for one do think this is very unfortunate that Euro have to wait a bit for this but hopefully it won't be long and its not as if we dont see this happen alot last gen and this gen with sony and micro bringing features later to Europe or after launch in general.
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Thisisjuju  +   207d ago
I don't really care about the TV features personally.

But the fact that MS makes the TV aspect one of their most unique and core features not having it at launch seems severely incompetent.

I really believe MS is rushing this launch.
MEGANE  +   207d ago
@Hikes and jocks on u! Letme answer that question 4 u!

http://m.youtube.com/watch?... ... If you take that away... what features do u have left?
RytGear  +   208d ago
Wow, well that is quite a kick in the face as this is one of its more unique features.
bigboirock  +   208d ago
it is but most people that will buy it on day one is for the games anyway
PSN-JeRzYzFyNeSt  +   208d ago
what games?
Muerte2494  +   208d ago
@bigboirock,

I'm not going to troll because what you're saying is correct and I won't give you stealth disagrees for no reason. People who purchase ANY system Day one are already sold on it. That fact that some features won't be there day one, won't hinder the purchase in any way. With that being said, how can this be a pillar of your next gen console and you not have it ready outside America? Just more and more signs of a rushed to market system.
karl  +   208d ago
seriously .. what games?
Mike134nl  +   208d ago
they will receive fifa one for free. But still a shame as I remember that this was one of the reasons they delayed in Europe in order to make deals with the broadcast companies.
captain_slow82  +   208d ago
its the ONE unique feature that xbox one has and what % will use such feature prob about 5% lol
Thirty3Three  +   208d ago
The feature's coming to the PS4 as well haha!
andrewsqual  +   207d ago
Its already on PS3 with PlayTV. Its alright but again, WHO CARES.
aiBreeze  +   208d ago
Was thinking this myself, the tv feature was really the only unique aspect of the console that I had any interest in. Being able to game while keeping an eye on the football without having to find my phone was quite appealing to me.

Ah well, just another embarrassing 180 to add to the long list.
hakeem0996  +   207d ago
how is that a 180 and how is that MS fault? You do realise that your cable provider needs to agree to MS's tv functionality so if it's not coming at lunch you should blame you cable provider .why is Japan out of all places getting it at launch and you not ? ask ur cable company.
Jdoki  +   208d ago
This is a huge black mark against MS. They could have announced this at GamesCom. There will be a lot of people who will not know that everything MS showed about interactive TV being the future does not apply to Europe.
Death  +   208d ago
Does not apply at launch. It's something that will be addressed as time goes by. It has to do with tv standards in Europe not being the same as other territories.
iamnsuperman  +   208d ago
But like Jdoki said this is something that should have been said at Gamescom. Why is this being mentioned at TGS. Not making this clear is misinforming the public.
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Jdoki  +   208d ago
@Death

Yeah, I read the article :)...

But looking at this part of the interview...

"‘It’s not going to be us – it’s not the early adopters that this is a problem [for] – which is why we’re not prioritising solving it right off the bat,’ said Penello.

‘Because the price of the consoles will have to come down like they do in every generation, the market will expand, we’ll eventually catch up to the people who are probably laggards in TV, and by that time we’ll have a more robust story than we have at launch.’"

Doesn't sound like it's coming any time soon after launch does it!? If he's talking about not getting it solved until after price of the console comes down. What are we talking about, 1 year? 2? before it's solved.

And even if they do solve the issue, it's likely to be piecemeal and may never be implemented for some people (i.e. Sky subscribers)
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Death  +   208d ago
I see your point. Had they made it clear, like maybe back in May that the tv functions were going to launch first in the U.S. only, then this would be much less an issue. http://www.vg247.com/2013/0...
Kayant  +   208d ago
@iamnsuperman

Agreed it's like the Fifa solution all over again. General consensus was that every XB1 pre-order will get Fifa 14 until about 2-3 weeks later when it's confirmed to be only Day-one editions even thought it wasn't worded like that previously.
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Sitdown  +   207d ago
Just a thought, maybe at the time of Gamescom they believed it to still be a possibility for launch. What we do know is that it has now been announced, and people have time to cancel preorders if they so desire.
Deividas  +   208d ago
Seriously?...Another thing that you cant do as soon as you shell out that much cash....So, what can you actually do with this thing at launch?? Damn
Death  +   208d ago
Play games?
Jdoki  +   208d ago
Fingers crossed!
DirtyPimp  +   208d ago
what games?
gaelic_laoch  +   208d ago
Basically now in Europe the xbone is a less powerful PS4 with no redeeming features to buy day one! FOR SHAME M$ for shame!
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dmitrijs88  +   207d ago
what do u expect from rushed product
Kayant  +   208d ago
I thought this was already known....
Jdoki  +   208d ago
I think this is the first time it has been confirmed by an MS Exec. Everything else has been speculation.

I had a search round N4G before posting the story, but couldn't find anything official.
Kayant  +   208d ago
You're right.... I thought so from reading the "Q: Do I need to have a specific cable or satellite TV provider to watch live TV on Xbox?" section.

http://news.xbox.com/2013/0...
ruefrak  +   208d ago
Microsoft returns to the Tokyo Game Show to reveal that you can't stand it vertically and only the US will have TV functionality at launch. Normally you want to announce positive things at these game shows.
jay2  +   208d ago
But.......it's the only thing PS4 doesn't do..............
Thirty3Three  +   208d ago
The PS4 will do it too. Sony confirmed it.
Ripsta7th  +   208d ago
Link pls, sounds like u spitting some bs
Thirty3Three  +   208d ago
Well just look it up- it shouldn't be that hard to find. It was even on here a few times, already.
Mike134nl  +   208d ago
The ps4 does not have an hdmi in solution or an ir blaster. So you cannot connect your set-up box to the ps4 and control it with the help of an ir-blaster.

So not exactly however Sony will offer digital tv.

(edit:only av output no input please see http://us.playstation.com/p...
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Thirty3Three  +   208d ago
@Mike, that's the good news: Sony will be offering the same thing. Except, no need to plug it into your cable box or anything (Like the XBone).

It's all better.
Ripsta7th  +   208d ago
Wow they sure werent ready for this launch, Sony did get em by surprise
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dmitrijs88  +   207d ago
absolutely
pyramidshead  +   208d ago
Kinda a big reason XB1 will most likely be the last next gen console I buy out of the three. Paying a lot for all these features that should be available day one, that are 50% of the console functionality, when they probably won't be available for a good while in my region. Pretty steep if you just wanna play games on it.
Iltapalanyymi  +   208d ago
who would even want them. suck it xdrones.
Godmars290  +   208d ago
You realize that many PS4 features aren't going to be up and running, working at 100%, day one either right?

Not that Sony's been harping them as if they were.
Godmars290  +   208d ago
Why are they talking about Japan when there isn't even a release date there.

Nevermind the at least six months its going to take to get the TV service up and running after the XB1 launch after they've been talking it up so much. Practically prioritizing the console's overall functionality.

@Sm00thNinja:
No real double standard. Its just that MS have been talking up features as if they'd be there come day-one. Their first presentation being about TV for instance.

That comes off as more of a bigger waste of time than it first did.
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Sm00thNinja  +   208d ago
And Sony hasn't been talking about Gakai like its the 2nd coming? Yet it's not ready for launch. Both companies have been talking about their vision of their respective consoles not the console's outlook at launch
Godmars290  +   207d ago
They have said that Gaikai wouldn't be ready until 2014. This is the first indication something so simple yet obviously complex as the TV interface wont be there after an XB1's been plugged in.

And again, they emphasized this before they really talked about anything.
Sm00thNinja  +   208d ago
I don't get it N4G goers? PS4 is also missing features at launch. No gakai, not all share features, vita remote play, and not launching in Japan this year. It's launch is fairly similar to the ONEs offerings, and yet Microsoft is launching too early? Why the double standard posters? I get it the Xbox One hate wagon is still going strong, but be reasonable both console company's announced features not ready til some time in the future. The 360 and PS3 are totally different beasts from 7 yrs ago

Now disagree away
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MonkeyNinja  +   208d ago
People are upset because TV was supposed to be one of Xbox One's big features. So in Europe, you're paying for only a fraction of what Microsoft promised: TV, games, NFL (and Europe doesn't give a crap about American football). If Microsoft didn't want us thinking of TV as one it's main features, they shouldn't have talked about it so much when they revealed it. First impressions are important.

As for Sony, when they announced Gaikai, they said it wouldn't be available at launch. PS4's strong suit is it's games anyway, everything else (according to Sony, it seems like) is secondary.
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iamnsuperman  +   208d ago
Via remote play does work through you local wifi (without Gaikia). I think it is outside the home that Gaikia is used but I am not sure if that is true as the PS3 didn't use Gaikai for that specific feature. Gaikai itself I agree with but bare in mind Sony hasn't really talked about the feature and have made it clear (at relevant times) that it will not work with X region right away (this is my main gripe about this. Why TGS and not at gamescom?). The HDMI capture thing is annoying that it isn't at launch

But the big thing here is none of those things that are not coming at launch have been made a big deal out of. What is the fundamental thing Microsoft has been talking about since launch? The TV stuff and yet it isn't available to Europe until a later date (when?) It is a big part of the console (in Microsoft's eyes).
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Bzone24  +   208d ago
The people that are most upset about this are people that trash Microsoft for TV,TV,TV. Now they are mad that a TV feature isn't going to be there yet.
staticdash22  +   207d ago
-Gaiaki was never promised at launch, it's a seperate service that was announced for 2014 back in february/
-Vita remote play works from Day one
-What does Japan have to do with the ps4's features?

If you're gonna troll, at least make it worthwhile *yawn*
younglj01  +   208d ago
Wow MS,Sony really did catch you by surprise.I don't know what MS plans were for the next-generation console but as far as I can tell they are playing it day by day...
JuniorCE  +   208d ago
who cares... R.I.P X1 ;-)
Sm00thNinja  +   208d ago
Wow now that's just ridiculous
DirtyPimp  +   208d ago
goddamn right.
staticdash22  +   208d ago
Wow. One of Microsoft's most marketed features as a "gamechanger" is not available in one of the most important markets, or "tiers" as MS would say. They talked about the T.V features so much, that it would bring great diversity to the console, over the supposed ps3.5 lol.
Flatbattery  +   208d ago
Come on Microsoft, really? If you can't deliver on what is essentially your unique selling point then how are we meant to be confident you can deliver anything else?
staticdash22  +   208d ago
Xbox One features not availble at launch:

-self publishing
-external storage
-T.V features (in europe)
- preloading
-kinect full functionality available in only 5/13 launch markets

Is there anything even ready at launch? Seriously, even a 12 year old can see that MS is selling people an unfinished/half of a console.
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hellrazor  +   207d ago
I preordered both,but am getting fed up with all this "not available at lunch stuff...I pre ordered the xbox one on the info Microsoft told me......pre ordered cancelled and I will now sit back and wait and see if the console matures into the console I pre ordered .....sorry Microsoft I been with you from the Beginning,but your taking the pi** now .......
xKugo  +   207d ago
-sigh-
Not good, MS. Not good.
fOrlOnhOpe57  +   207d ago
One unholy mess
InTheLab  +   207d ago
Why, how will they ever watch TV without the x1? Surely they're not planning on forcing th EU to watch TV with their TVs????
ilovefatgirls  +   207d ago
we knew this already though, besides its not like theres anything to watch except ad's for insurance, mortgages/loans and thrush cream
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Skynetone  +   207d ago
wow did anyone from Europe actually think it would work from day one, I already have a tv box, crazy right so no worries, whats even more crazier I have two tvs side by side I can watch tv and play games at the same time, at the same time people, you can pick up a second tv for like 100/150 bucks, no need to miss whats happening on the price is right while you game
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Flatbattery  +   207d ago
Quite frankly, yes. Do you not remember the TV, TV, sports and TV reveal?

Out of the starting blocks it was only about TV, so is it too much to ask that it's ready at launch?.....or is that unreasonable to you?
PS4isKing_82  +   207d ago
Poor Microsoft. Everyday is something new and negative about the Xbox one. It's like they dont have a clue what they're doing.
Animal Mutha 76  +   207d ago
Another thing made to look like the end of the world. The smear campaign against MS these last few months is unprecedented. Even Sony didn't get this much sh*t before they released PS3 and that had plenty of issues as well.

The lack of tv feature in Europe is no different to Gaikai not being available at launch. Both are advertised features that are not ready in time.

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