Submitted by black0o 531d ago | interview

PS4 indies versus AAA : “I don’t see a divide”, says Sony’s indie man

PlayStation 4 is treating indies and large triple-a entities as one and the same, according to the man behind Sony’s indie charge Shahid Ahmad. He sees the next wave of next-gen stars in the indie circuit, and he’s keen to get them on board. (PS4, Shahid Ahmad)

WarThunder  +   532d ago
Most indie games i played were more fun than AAA battery games...
RyuCloudStrife  +   531d ago
AAA doesn't mean good. Means high budget, so indies can indeed be better than AAA busts.
from the beach  +   531d ago
'Indie' tends to mean cheaper budget, smaller teams and less experienced teams, so it's quite natural to assume the games won't be as good as AAA ones. Not always, of course.
isarai  +   531d ago
@ from the beach

Most indie devs are highly experienced devs that have years or even decades of field experience. you can't go out and make a game on your on without having some experience. also smaller teams has nothing to do with how good a game is, hell Team ICO made two of what most people hold as some of the greatest and most influential games ever made and their team is only about 23 people.
Visualift  +   531d ago
I totally agree. Part of my enjoyment with Indie titles is knowing how hard the team had to work to get it released for general consumption. Also, these titles feel more accessible than many AAA titles.
showtimefolks  +   531d ago
all of the sudden now indie games are not important, when over the last few years that's all i heard from xbox360 owners about how MS was better at supporting indie devs

so now that the tables have turned now its not important, scary thing is sony still has so many exclusive studios plus free to play and best indie support

so a complete console
Irishguy95  +   531d ago
Sony fanboys and Xbox fanboys have simply switched places.
Hicken  +   531d ago
Since Sony fanboys have been praising the likes of the pixeljunk series and thatgamecompany's titles for years, I don't think they've switched anything.
yellowgerbil  +   531d ago
I've yet to find an indie game as good as Fallout, or bioshock.
But agree, most AAA games are no where as fun as indies and small games.
More passion and creativity in indies
PoSTedUP  +   531d ago
idk it's weird. im not hating on indie devs, but the truth, for me, is that i find even most Non AAA titles to be more fun than most indie games. like if i had to choose between having to play HAZE and socom confrontations or [insert any two indie games] only, for the next 6 months to a year. i would pick haze and socom.

whats your top two favorite indie games?
PoSTedUP  +   531d ago
i hope some bigger devs see the tallent and pick them up accordingly. i do see a divide tho. indies are great for the industry because they are a different breed of dev, working on different types of games we also enjoy playing, giving us a wider catalogue to choose from. the divde is simple for me, even tho some of them are really fun like flower, flow, and limbo. i dont see myself buying into too many more of them because of what has and will be comming out on the vita, ps3 and ps4 (and im a huge retro gamer too if that matters). outlast will probably the last new indie game i buy for a while untill i see something worth my time and particular taste (also rebuying Flower on the vita). indie games also seem to pop up in my collection at times i am low with money, ill go out and buy a $2 total recoil game or something and play it for less than a day. for smaller games/casual games i sill go to the ps1 and psp catalogue bc there are a lot of great games i still havent played. machinarium was pretty cool, i give them credit it wa a fun game, but i just feel like id be getting more of my moneys worth by buying a $5.99 ps1 game or a $7-10 psp RPG that i havent playd yet just because of the sheer content and longevity i would get out of my money. sure i had fun with limbo and machinarium for $10 a piece. but i also only played them for like a day and a half each (then one came out on PSplus 4 days later for free Lol). i played a lot of flower tho years back (when ps3 had no games). now its like this new gen and all and i dont think id have the extra money for too many indi games (especially if they are a quick run through like Limbo for 10 bucks) id prob still support some of them when i can, just dont see them being more than a very small fraction of my gaming time. too many epic old school titles i still have to go back to. bit im sure im one of the very few who look at it this way on here, trust me im routing for them though.
yellowgerbil  +   531d ago
Dead Nation, without a doubt is my favorite Indie, looking forward to DN2 on PS4.
Besides that not many true indies I've played. I lump small download games by developers into indie category, even though they aren't
of those I loved
Xmen Arcade
Crystal Defenders
Zen pinball

The PS4 gen so far has gotten me more behind real indies, as they are the ones that have gotten my attention besides Infamous.
Contrast looks really interesting.
Resogun is free and looks like a blast
Secret Poncho looks to have that DN gameplay style
and though haven't heard about it since feb Primal Carnage looks interesting
PoSTedUP  +   531d ago
oh yeah primal carnage looks pretty fun. not sure if its gonna be the same as the first one bc there was no replay value besides it being online, maybe they added to it, but its still good if they didnt, but id deff pick it up and have some fun with it. its as simple as battlefield 1943 but without vehicles. just fun overall. ill have to checkout thoes games u mentioned.

i have a good assortment of indie games, including the super small ones like the lil ios fishing simulator ones, crash comandos (good one) flower, flow, limbo, machanrium,jetpackjoyride, total recoil, pain, highstakespoker, bowling, +all the psEye games etc. so i do support them. they are all good fun no doubt.
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Mikelarry  +   532d ago
i don't see a divide either i enjoyed flower, journey etc as much as i enjoyed cod, gears read dead etc. so as long as both produce interesting and compelling games i will always support both
Visualift  +   531d ago
Love the support Indie developers are getting!

While I enjoy AAA titles just as much as the next guy it's the Indie scene that has me most intrigued this next generation. Should be interesting to see how much of a factor these titles have in the success of the console!
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D_RoyJenkins  +   531d ago
This is why I'm a PlaySation enthusiast. I love their perspective on the gaming industry
Chevalier  +   531d ago
It's funny how MS fans keep saying that ps4 only has indies like there should be any doubt Sony won't have AAA game/exclusives. Just look at how many exclusives ps3 has this year and how 360 has almost none those will come with time; having a bunch of Indies just rounds out and compliments those big budget games. There are so many great indie games I have enjoyed, like Journey, Flower, Castle Crashers, Braid, Limbo and more I can't remember off the top of my head. Really looking forward to Transistor and a bunch of the indies announced to go along with Infamous, Killzone, Destiny and The Division.
Stuntz  +   531d ago
stop sticking up for indies. They are not a console seller period, nobody says o im buying this console because it has indies gtfo. Stop being such a group of PS fanboys understand that yes it will be a good console but the better games definitely are on X1 this time.
Ketzicorn  +   531d ago
The difference being Sony has built an ecosystem to encompass everything from great AAA titles, KZ,Infamous,The Order,Deep Down,MLB the Show,Yakuza,Guilty Gear,ND Project,SSM project,Media Molecule project, Driveclub and a lot of great Indies and F2P but if your opinion is the X1 has the better games then go for that but don't expect everyone to share that opinion.
Stuntz  +   531d ago
what do you mean not everyone shares that opinion? DR3, TitanFall, Ryse and Forza all were voted for best at E3. Blacktusk is in the works for a new AAA IP we dont know about yet. 343 is creating something new for X1 exclusively. Sorry man in all honesty the only people that are saying PS4 has better games are the true hardcore sony lovers. X1= DR3, Quantum Break, TitanFall, Forza, HALO, KI, Ryse, New blacktusk IP, 343 IP. BTW we have project spark which looks cool as hell.
AceofStaves  +   531d ago
@Stuntz = Sorry to break it to you, but no. Not every gamer shares the opinion that XB1 offers the best games. I haven't seen a game on XB1 that makes me want to buy one. It doesn't matter how many awards those games may win, or how many people like them, those aren't games I want to play.

I have my own preferences and opinions. I don't need other people to decide what I like and don't like. It doesn't mean that there's anything wrong with the XB1 or its games, it's just not a console I would buy.

There's no right or wrong when it comes to video games. It just entertainment. You enjoy things some people won't and vice-versa. It's no big deal.
Ketzicorn  +   531d ago
@Stuntz Exactly what I said not everyone shares that opinion. E3 awards are cool and all but don't mean a whole lot in the long run. I couldn't care less about DR3 it looks like Dead Rising more Zombie edition to me but I could see how people would like it just like I'm sure Xbox fans don't see the hype over Killzone. Forza and Driveclub have both looked like great racers to me so that comes out equal in mine and others opinion. Ryse and Knack look like they could go either way. The Indies like Resogun and others interest me more than KI even though I was a big KI fan growing up it just doesnt look all that great to me. Titanfall and Halo look good so far and Black Tusk project looks intriguing as well as Project Spark looks good but like I stated earlier their is just more on PS4 that interests me and by the preorder numbers so far many others as well. Both have great games so I don't know why you feel every one has to share your opinion. You feel X1 has better games I feel the PS4 does doesn't mean either is right or wrong just difference of taste in games.
LightningMokey  +   531d ago

Makes sense I guess, that must be why the X Bone is outselling the PS4 by huge amounts. /s
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Chevalier  +   531d ago
Since Microsoft is so awesome where are the 360 games? Games like The Last of Us? 360 had all the exclusives and now has NO support and somehow MS is gonna offer more exclusives this time around? Yeah it won't last.
isarai  +   531d ago

you can't be that ignorant

I was sold on PS4 as soon as they showed all the indie games starting with the witness. Indie games offer deeper subject matter, wider creativity, far more unique experiences, and fresh new ideas that aren't controlled or hindered by a publisher. With TONS of these games coming out for a single platform, many of which are exclusive, how is that not a system seller?

"Stop being such a group of PS fanboys understand that "

Wow, so i guess i should understand that my opinion doesn't matter when it comes to choosing which platform i want to buy? i should just listen to your opinion and take it as absolute fact?

Do us all a favor and please don't breed, we don't need more people like you in this world
hyperfire21  +   531d ago
What are these "great" indie games people play? Most look like crap and I dont even feel like trying the demo.
AceofStaves  +   531d ago
Indie titles make a great compliment to the big budget 'blockbusters.' The people who slag off the PS4 by claiming that it only has indie titles have completely dropped the plot. Sony has a decades-long history of providing AAA games to its customers. It's not an either-or situation. Having indies and AAA games provide a very broad range of games, and that's not a bad thing.

I look at indie companies as the 'journeymen' of the gaming industry, in a sense. Developing these smaller titles allows them to polish their skills and offer gaming experiences that are too niche or off the beaten path for a big publisher to risk money on. Indie games are also far less expensive than the newest AAA releases. Even if you purchase an indie that's not to your taste, you haven't wasted a lot of money on it.

Some gamers like indies. Some gamers hate them. As long as companies provide options, all gamers win.

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