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Shuhei Yoshida Shares More info on PS4: Download Speed, HDMI Capture, Game Upgrade Disk Requirement

SCE Worldwide Studios Shuhei Yoshida gave more information on a variety of topics related to the PS4 today, talking about PSN download speeds, footage capture via HDMI and disk requirements for the upgrade of games from PS3 to PS4 (PS4, Shuhei Yoshida)

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Majin-vegeta  +   876d ago
Why don't people just play a game they bought while downloading from PSN that makes it to seem faster.I'll usually just jump on Warriors orochi 3 and in 3-4 matches my download is done.
Abriael  +   876d ago
Haha, well some people are impatient. Remember the whines about the long installation times of GT5?
RyuCloudStrife  +   876d ago
I guess the PSN download speeds are a real issue to some people... I never had an issue, I've downloaded from PSN at a rate of 2-3 MBs a second....

I thought Xbox users used that reason to troll..
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Abriael  +   876d ago
@RyuCloudStrife: I have to say they've always been very slow for me, but they improved very recently. I was amazed when I managed to download 7 GB of FFXIV in about an hour (yeah I know it's still a lot for 7 GB, but compared to the old times it was lightning fast)
dantesparda  +   876d ago
I know im getting around 8 to 1- megabit per sec. I can actually test it. Plus i can see it doing about a 1 megabyte per sec or little faster. I think the problem is the peple that have 50mbps i dont think they get full speed. So i know they definitely do at least 8 to 10mbps but dont think they go as high as 50mbps
Transporter47  +   876d ago

Honestly it depends on your internet speed, I download anywhere from 2-5MBs then again i pay $87 per month for my internet. I never had an issue downloading anything.
Volkama  +   876d ago
I started playing Heavy Rain for the first time last night. It wants to download a patch about 1.2gb, and it estimates it will take 90 minutes.

I played offline, and let it attempt it's download while I'm at work today.

Needs improvement if I'm going to be able to take advantage of the play-while-you-download and streaming type features of the PS4...
DragonKnight  +   876d ago
I don't know if this is true for everyone, but I have found that if I'm playing a game like Dark Souls while downloading a game off PSN, the download will not progress until I stop playing. That may happen for others.
MazzingerZ  +   875d ago
PSN was free so it didn't have as much servers as XBL, I never experienced slow DL speed on X360 nor PSN but it was probably due PSN had a closer server and I had a good internet connection (100 Mbps)

Now when online on PSN is not free SONY will have more servers, PSN+ is worth more than online gaming anyway so no surprise there
ZoyosJD  +   875d ago

It's dependent on the game. It seems to work more often with SP games that aren't graphically or HDD intensive. With games like Dark Souls that have persistent online I wouldn't expect to be able to use the feature.
caperjim  +   875d ago
Download speed is one of the downsides to Playstation for me. I can download full retail games from Steam/Xbox quickly but a simple update for my PS3 takes far longer then it should.
darthv72  +   875d ago
the speed of downloads was not really an issue. some downloads were faster than others.

For me it was that the download and installation are two separate instances.

i dont know how live does it but when you download something, it installs at the same time. so when you get the notification that it is done you can start playing.

With the PS store, you download something and then you have to wait for it to unpack and install which can take a few minutes to several depending on the size of the install file.

With the ps4, they say you can play while its downloading and installing so that is a very good thing to look forward to.
badz149  +   875d ago

unlike Vita, PS3 can't download anything off PSN while playing ANY game online. I noticed that my download status is pending while playing FIFA connected to to EA server even WITHOUT playing online! it's very annoying tbh but once I knew about it, I now always leave my PS3 ON when I am downloading something and let it shut itself down when it's done.

oh and my internet connection is a mere 1Mbps so it usually takes sometime for downloads to finish. downloading torrents on my pc simultaneously is not helping too.

but I agree that it's getting better nowadays as the download speed indeed has been increased. downloads are done faster nowadays. recent example is Puppeteer. I finished downloading it in less than 4 hours.
Jack_Of_All_Blades  +   875d ago
It didn't even take that long, babies. And YES Sony, YES! Keep up the good work!!!
Baka-akaB  +   875d ago
Speed varies , i have no more issues downloading on PSN than on XBL . One wasnt quicker than the other .... EXCEPT that patches and firmware takes forever on PSN .

"PS3 can't download anything off PSN while playing ANY game online. I noticed that my download status is pending while playing FIFA connected to to EA server even WITHOUT playing online!"

That's not it actually . Some games cut off your downloads when online . Like fifa and street fighter 4 .
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eyeDEVOUR  +   876d ago
Alot of ps3 games wont allow downloading while playing...
Majin-vegeta  +   876d ago
I think it has to be diskless give it try.
paul-p1988  +   876d ago
Yup, had that problem myself. It's the games that are offline but have an online leaderboard or another insignificant area of the game that uses the internet and because of that i can't download a game whilst playing that game... annoying...
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Thehyph  +   876d ago
@eyeDEVOUR it's true of course.

It's an issue that's solved for next gen though. In fact it's solved now on vita. Nothing can stop a vita from background downloading. You can also play a game while the patch for that game is downloading in the background. Ps3 has never let you do that.
MizTv  +   875d ago
I thought only if you are playing online it won't download
admiralvic  +   875d ago
@ MizTV

Some games work like that, where as others will completely disable it while playing.
AceBlazer13  +   876d ago
You can play while downloading?
Abriael  +   876d ago
Maybe he has two PS3s?
Majin-vegeta  +   876d ago
I think diskless games will let you as long as you're not playing online.I play PS1,PS2 and PS3 games i have bought from the store while downloading.

@Abriael I only have 1 PS3.
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nunley33  +   876d ago
yes i can download while playing a game but it seems to depend from game to game. it'll be with every game on ps4.i never had an issue with the psn downloads, i own a 360 and it's just as fast or faster than xbl,it's more to do with the user's net. I will get like 10mb up on psn,it'fast enough for that. you won't get your 50mb on it but ps4 looks to faster with its improved psn+gaikai.
Persistantthug  +   875d ago

Yes....You can play most single player games while downloading....from disk or from hardrive.
SolidGear3  +   876d ago
Damn.. took me 18 or 20 hours to download Crysis (3.3GB)
nunley33  +   875d ago
my gawd that internet signal you used to download that was beyond slow,is that 56k you have there? i kid but no online service is that slow,upgrade your net. i cyrsis2 in 2hrs i think or faster and that's with it's dlc too. cyrsis 2 is alot bigger..p
Sono421  +   875d ago
holy shit mate.. you can't blame PSN for that.. that's your connection.

Iv'e never took that long to download anything
Johnny Jiron  +   875d ago
He isn't alone. Back when I had my PS3 and 360, my PS downloads took an absurd amount of time while the 360 downloads were quick. I tested the speeds out by downloading a video that was available to both stores. What took the 360 a minute to do, the PS3 took 15.

Now the stranger thing is, my friends Playstation down the road downloaded stuff just as fast as my 360. We both use Comcast and both had the same internet plan. So it very much is a person to person deal.
360ICE  +   876d ago
Tons of games don't support simultaneous downloads. In fact, I think most don't now. One of the things Sony did to free RAM for the developers to use, I believe.
kazuma999  +   876d ago
Physical discs. Problem solve.
Blaze929  +   875d ago
"Don’t expect it for launch, as it will be introduced afterwards with a patch."

Hmm i wonder how long after launch exactly we'll have to wait for HDMI capturing. So as far as that goes, I guess it was true on the PS4 not supporting it. But they'll do a 180 on that decision and patch it later after hearing all the outcry about it. Cool.

...oh, what we can only say 180 and point out decision changes if it's Microsoft? lol
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Majin-vegeta  +   875d ago
How can it be a 180 if Sony never said it to begin with??It was the retards over at machinima who said they weren't *Facepalm*.
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AridSpider  +   875d ago

"How can it be a 180 if Sony never said it to begin with??It was the retards over at machinima who said they weren't *Facepalm*.

Machinima said Sony wasn't doing something on PS4 and wanted to increase awareness to change that.

People complained.

Sony will release a patch after release to fix it - as it wasn't originally planned.

But Machinima are the retards o_O?

BlackTar187  +   875d ago
Took me less then 1.5 hrs to fully DL GTA and install it. Was happy with that time
Deadpoolio  +   875d ago
Thats what I used to do until I got FiOS. Now everything Downloads in 2 minutes or less for large files and 30 seconds for most of the small stuff....

It also helps when you know how to actually setup your router and when you actually use a wired connection, unlike those who just jizz at the thought of having that wireless....

Basic networking 101 tells you that if someone with a wired connection gets on the network they are going to get the needed bandwidth before that wireless signal
s8anicslayer  +   875d ago
They forget that one of the new PS4/PSN features is the ability of playing your game while downloading,I think that's what Yosh is talking about when he said faster.
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xKugo  +   876d ago
Hopefully download speeds will be much improved thanks to the large influx of PS+ members coming to PlayStation. More good news for PS4
qzp  +   876d ago
They talked about download speed, servers cost a lot of money to run so with PS+ needed for online play I would gladly pay 5$ to help sony maintain a better faster network. Not to mention all other PS+ benefits.
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DoggyBiscuit  +   876d ago
My body is ready for the ps4
Tooly  +   876d ago
I never have slow downloads not even in the early years of the ps3 I'm pretty sure that has to do with Yall internet with little fault on Sony downloads finish fast even GTA 5 finished in like 2 hours 17.15 gbs
SolidGear3  +   876d ago
Took me 24 hours to download Persona 3 .. it's over 4GB
SoulSercher620  +   876d ago
Maybe it might be time to upgrade your internet?
wishingW3L  +   875d ago
or maybe is time for Sony to upgrade their crappy infrastructure, because too many people are having the same issues with slow download speeds. And it's only with the PS3 you know.
SoulSercher620  +   875d ago
No I don't know because it never took me several hours to download a game even with crappy internet. The most it evr took me was 2 hours. But I have seen Xbox Live take the same amount of time it would on PSN so you'll have to show me proof what you're saying is correct.
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fsfsxii  +   875d ago
lol, same here. But goddamit. It was fucking worth it.
Persona 3 became my crack
AllroundGamer  +   876d ago
yeah the PSN is slow at downloading and i really hope they will fix that with all the money people will pay for PS+ now, cause i have a 100mbit net and it only downloads about 2-3mb/s, compared to Steam where i download at full speed 10mb/s. Also hope they remove the need of installing (think it's like unpacking) every game, cause that is really a pain...
nunley33  +   876d ago
ps4 will install as it downloads so yeah all those ps3 gripes will go away and corrected with ps4
AllroundGamer  +   876d ago
that would be great! do you have a link, where Sony confirms that?
sprinterboy  +   876d ago
40 mins to download tlou
THC CELL  +   876d ago
People forgetting u can play on games while downloading on ps4
wishingW3L  +   875d ago
but there are some games that don't allow it and the thing is that you never know which ones can you play while Downloading in the background until you test it yourself.
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lpsquall  +   876d ago
Needing to have the PS3 version of the game inside your PS4 to play the $10 PS4 upgrade version sounds like how I imagined Gaikai to work with your currently owned library. Lets say you already own a game that Gaikai service is going to offer via stream (ie: God of War 3) all you have to do is insert the PS3 version of God of War 3 and it will stream it from the Gaikai service.
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Gamingcapacity  +   876d ago
He only wrote 7 words yet answered so much lol

Edit: This article also confirm the other article that they were trying to get a Patch ready for the HDMI recording. The patch will come at a later date.
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No FanS Land  +   876d ago
I'm trying to ask a question on Yoshida's twitter, I've asked twice so far, yet he did not answer me. it was about the hard disk drive rpm and if it is already considered a bottleneck (meaning upgrading rpm wouldn't do benefits)
xHoii  +   875d ago
I get 50mbs when I run the ps3 network test but It only downloads 2GB every 10 minutes.
Furesis  +   875d ago
awww.. poor you
xHoii  +   875d ago
Righttt :(
wishingW3L  +   875d ago
I have a similar issue but is kind of funny that Sony admits it while the fanboys deny it. XD
Sevir  +   875d ago
Lol, The general public is Sooo uninformed,

Playgo technology allows you to play a digital game while it downloads from the PS Store!.

That was part of the immediacy pillar of the PS4 design..
saggysack79  +   875d ago
has no one asked him what the final cpu clock speed will be?
wishingW3L  +   875d ago
the rumor is that it runs at around 1.6-2.0 GHZ and if that's true then they are most likely hiding it so people don't start a riot about the CPU being weak without understand it other advantages.
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CuddlyREDRUM  +   875d ago
I'm glad they 180'ed their game capture policy.
optimus  +   875d ago
does anyone have any information if a ssd drive will work on the ps4??
godofboobees  +   875d ago
Damn internet speeds must suck in denver
0pie  +   875d ago
i wonder for how long people will stalk shuei yoshida twitter and post article about his twitter...
Goldenarmz  +   875d ago
I really dont see a problem with downloading, on 360 and psn i would always start the download before i left for work, so when i got home, it was waiting for me. With digital day one downloads, just wake up in the morning before you get ready for work/school hop on your ps4 download what you want and be done. Its really not that big of a deal.
Gamer666  +   875d ago
I can't remember how many times I have turned my PS3 on to play a game and then proceeded to endure a 5-25 minute download patch or forced firmware upgrade.

Glad to see they are doing something about it...
DivineAssault  +   875d ago
Thank goodness the download speeds will be faster.. I love my ps3 over all my systems but i really REALLY hate the length of the download/install process.. One major reason i cant wait for PS4 to arrive.. The ram should speed things up in the UI & hopefully theyre adding servers to PSN
PSX04  +   875d ago
I will definitely buy the ps4

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