The behemoth PS3 is also quite the hippie's nightmare, sucking down 380 watts, more than twice as much as the Xbox 360, and more than 8 times that of the PS2.
If used for two hours per day, that's as much as $40 per year.
I guess I'm going to have to start siphoning power from my neighbour :)
If you can roast a pig on the PS3 since you can scramble eggs with the 360?
I've only heard that frying eggs on a ps3 wasn't possible, but thawing a bagels is definitely possible.
It's the mean fat burning machine... you can cook hamburgers, steaks, chicken....
that's almost the cost of xbox live:)
If you shop around it's more.
...if you take the difference between the 2 energy consumptions...which is in favor of the 360...you can add that to the overall cost of the PS3. :O For those claiming the 360 is more expensive because of the $50/year Live fee... there goes a good chunk of THAT argument. ;)
That's only 2 hours a day. There are certainly some people on here who probably average 5-6 :P
people complain to much.
people do care too much but from the opposing side us 360 owners have been made fun of for how much power the 360 consumes.
Only because you guys come to the PS side of the forums and choose to "defend" your console when it isn't even being attacked.
Think about it...
if I came off as being mad I wasn't. I'm all about gaming but sometimes I feel the strange need to defend what I bought, haha. I really could care less how much power it consumes.
death monk I wasn't specifically referring to you, but there are many people that do post garbage on the "other" side of the news realm. On all sides, too, so don't think I am singling anyone out.
Those people give gamers a bad name and bring the worst out in people, especially themselves.
and the x360 uses a 203W power supply. and these are MAX outputs. doesn't mean it would ever actually use that much power.
So its official. Ps3 IS more powerful then the 360. FACT!
more power consumption doesn't mean more powerful. look at old processors 10 years ago and then look at mobile processors of today. they run on more efficient architecture using less power but running on more clock cycles.
lol wow you are way to much of a fanboy.
I'm too much of a fanboy? did you read your comment? btw I owned all 3 consoles last generation and I'm not really a fanboy. right now I do plan on only owning a 360 but that has more to do with my money situation. I was only pointing out that power consumption has to do with efficiency AND how powerful it is. go ahead and bash me now because I'm out of comments on this thread :)
Sorry but is more powerful. FACT!
That or it's less efficient...
How much power it takes from the wall isn't much an indication of how well it performs. We'll see. :)
Just because one of my microwaves makes the lights flicker and the other doesn't doesn't mean the first is better. :-P
Though, Sony does have a lot experience building electronics. Another interesting thing the article points out is for the Wii's online service it's required to be on 24hrs/day. I wasn't aware of that.
some good power info on the egg cooker lol. i hope cnet does one for the ps3 as well when it comes out: http://reviews.cnet.com/453...
"So its official. Ps3 IS more powerful then the 360. FACT!"
Not more powerful, it uses more eletricity to power the damn thing.
so it also eats elec :) , what next it over heats? :) .... it burns houses down? .
and the controller's internal batteries will randomly catch fire or explode
So running it 8 hours a day would cost $160/year. So basically with the xbox 360 you can have a gold account and still pay less per year.
What type of math did you take?
Hell just think with the heat of the 360 and the power consumption of the PS3 I will need to bypass my power meter. Maybe since the cell is so powerful you can design a control circuit to bypass the powermeter when the cell is started up.
First off, you totally disregarded the power costs of running a 360 8 hours a day, and secondly, isn't the wattage a maximum thing, as in it runs at less usually?
Maybe a tech expert could explain that more.
Thats illegal. And if you cant afford 400 watts of power for the Ps3 you sure as Mary Poppins arent coming up with $650 for the Ps3.
Worrying about wattage? If someone is hurting that bad financially they shouldn't be buying a game system. There is a lot of processors in the PS3 as well as other electronic components. I say thats about right. If I had base my home audio systems on how much wattage they put out I would have never enjoyed the audio experience I have had over the years. Face the facts, Gaming is expensive past time. So can music, movies, heck even my dirt bike is expensive to keep up and running. Oh by the way if your a hard core rider your Bike is going to cost more than your PS3 or Xbox.
This article is stupid. Its like some drag racer complaining about his or her gas milage.
Some people are just crazy?
to play games while grilling burgers on your PS3 ya know! It needs the extra power. Wait. Did you guys just see an ad for the PS3 on the Food Network??
It also has the "potential" to play games.
Some of you people have no sense of humour. And this is not something I would ever have thought about, but when you get your electric bill it would certainly grab your attention.
But lesson learned. I always thought it was my ac running up my bill, turns out it's my washer/dryer/fridge/television .
they can't attack the games so they resort to whining about the power consumption. You gotta admit, that's pretty cute.
Would that it were true.. they attack anything and everything with the name Sony on it. I know at least I don't post negative stuff on MS news topics, I know there are some fanboys that do, but I don't.
and it came up to $40 dollars a year,that's about 0.11 to $0.12 cents a day.some of you must live in caves or haven't learned to make fire yet.or are so poor no wonder you're knocking the ps3.you can't afford $0.11 cent a day for a year.
It sounds an aweful lot like what Xbox gamers say about the breakdown in price of one year of Xbox Live. I think it is something like 14 cents per day...
Wasn't there a proposition put forth that PS3 owners leave their consoles on when not playing so that some university could utilize the power of millions of Cell chips across the world to do some kind of crazy research? That proposition suddenly became a little more expensive.
but ad the power consumption of 360 plus live.sounds more expensive(in a small way)to ps3 with free online.but this constant bashing must end.
people didn't like the controller-sony changed it.
people said it won't have a hard drive built in-it does for both.
people said it will have an external adapter-it doesn't.
people said it will run hot-it doesn't and is quiet.
people said sony will charge for online-it's free.
people said 1080p at 60fps can't be done-games are releasing at 1080p at 60fps at launch.
people said games won't look better on ps3-some games already look better at launch than 360's launch.and that's from people who HAVE played it.they say that games were made longer on ps3.that's an excuse.
people say that bluray doesn't add a thing-but you can release a global game on one disc that can be released everywhere.
people say that the system is expensive-so sony drops the price about $100 dollars for one of the systems in japan.
people said that the core ps3 is crippled without hdmi-sony adds that feature.
people say i don't need wifi,card readers,free surfing,linux,links to psp,60 gigs,etc into infinity.but these features can only add to an already cool system.
most of these COMPLAINTS are from 360 gamers who don't want microsoft to lose again.and they are spreading their message across the net when most that will be buying it don't read what we type across these boards.
and now we're talking about power consumption.people need to give it a rest.let the system release already.and if sony dose figure out a way to get rumble back in,just like nintendo is able to side step immersion,then all this crappy dissing is done.now i'm done.
This is from the the U.S. Department of Energy.
You can usually find the wattage of most appliances stamped on the bottom or back of the appliance, or on its nameplate. The wattage listed is the maximum power drawn by the appliance. Since many appliances have a range of settings (for example, the volume on a radio), the actual amount of power consumed depends on the setting used at any one time.
According to the numbers they use in calculating, the PS3 running 4 hrs a night 365 days a year would use $47.16 a year. This is at 8.5 cents/kWh. (Keep in mind your power cost maybe higher or lower then this) The 360 would cost $19.86 a year giving a differents of $27.30/year. A staggering amount and truly worthy of all the comments because I know we all purchase consoles based on power consumption. <grin>
Here are some examples of the range of nameplate wattages for various household appliances:
Aquarium = 50–1210 Watts
Clock radio = 10
Coffee maker = 900–1200
Clothes washer = 350–500
Clothes dryer = 1800–5000
Dishwasher = 1200–2400 (using the drying feature greatly increases energy consumption)
Dehumidifier = 785
Electric blanket- Single/Double = 60 / 100
Ceiling = 65–175
Window = 55–250
Furnace = 750
Whole house = 240–750
Hair dryer = 1200–1875
Heater (portable) = 750–1500
Clothes iron = 1000–1800
Microwave oven = 750–1100
CPU - awake / asleep = 120 / 30 or less
Monitor - awake / asleep = 150 / 30 or less
Laptop = 50
Radio (stereo) = 70–400
Refrigerator (frost-free, 16 cubic feet) = 725
19" = 65–110
27" = 113
36" = 133
53"-61" Projection = 170
Flat screen = 120
Toaster = 800–1400
Toaster oven = 1225
VCR/DVD = 17–21 / 20–25
Vacuum cleaner = 1000–1440
Water heater (40 gallon) = 4500–5500
Water pump (deep well) = 250–1100
Water bed (with heater, no cover) = 120–380
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that's almost the cost of xbox live:)"
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...if you take the difference between the 2 energy consumptions...which is in favor of the 360...you can add that to the overall cost of the PS3. :O For those claiming the 360 is more expensive because of the $50/year Live fee... there goes a good chunk of THAT argument. ;)"
Well not really, you should add $20 to Live as 360 needs half the power. While we at it, why you people use PC's? These things suck more watts than the PS3. If you are complaining about PS3 needing much watts you surely shouldn't use PC doing it. This article and your comments perfectly displays how immature and blind you are. Don't be so obsessed, it's just a console. Besides some exceptions, do you see me or any Sony fanboy bashing MS day by day? And MS is much worse than Sony, they are playing with their customers pockets. You Xbox fanboys are a true phenomenon.
power well spent.
Half of the people in here live with mommy and daddy and don't even pay anything for the electric bill. I'm not saying everyone but you know who you are.
an extra $40 year so a ps3 playing for 2 hours is like... less than 10 cents a day, so my question is what is everyone complaining about?
"...if you take the difference between the 2 energy consumptions...which is in favor of the 360...you can add that to the overall cost of the PS3. :O For those claiming the 360 is more expensive because of the $50/year Live fee... there goes a good chunk of THAT argument. ;)"
if the 360 uses half the power of the ps3 than your still going to pay $20 a year for power for it so ther goes a chunk of your argument ;)
$40 a year is nothing!!! Reading the article I thought they were going to say a month...but since the ps3 "supposedly" is more powerful than the xbox than u get what u paid for....just like $40 a year for a better online service ;)
about the ps3 online service. from what sony says it includes (if it includes all of those things), then it's in the same league as Live. but we'll see Nov. 17...
"And, Nintendo's Wiiconnect24 service requires the Wii to be left running 24 hours a day"
can someone explain this to me. can it be in standby mode or what? im sure it's real simple but then again with the 360 being able to fry an egg (supposedly) and the ps3 draining that much power i guess nothing is that simple.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the WiiConnect24 thing runs in standby mode.
it is basically like a hibernating mode that uses less than a watt. It's to allow the system to be updated automatically and a few other things I'm not sure of.
Damm, why are the Sonyfanboy's getting so upset?, its clear that this isn't an issue for gamers, I think that those who are "bashing" the PS3 just for the hell of it....just have a little laugh, its not a big deal, its not like Sonyfanboys didn't poke fun at the 360 when they revealed how much power it consumed, personally its just funny to me 'cause I don't care nor have I ever cared how much power(electricity) I was using while I played a game.....and if you are worried about how much this will add to your electric bill, then you probably shouldn't be buying a $400 or $600 console until you have a little more expendable income.
I'm curious how this power rating will stack up against the 65nm that they're planning for next year.
I didn't post this so the PS3 could get bashed, just to point out that the hippies might be happier with Viva Pinata. hahaha.
yes we are
(and gears of war!)
Power the PS3 consumes when clearly the PS3 is so quiet and the Xbox 360 isn't.
PS3 Sucks... a lot?
lol this is a joke, what components should use all this power ? cell is designed to have not so much consumption, and the geforce needs not so much power. i ask myself who made this numbers up? if it would use 380 watt, they would be far more heat, but there is no heat, so you can say that this is 100% bs.
lol you guys are the real jokers because you actually get defensive over a silly news post like this, but worse you deny it and say its not possible which makes you look very delusional....example:
videl: "i ask myself who made this numbers up? if it would use 380 watt, they would be far more heat, but there is no heat, so you can say that this is 100% bs."
-really, and I guess the Blu-ray Drive couldn't have anything to do with more power consumption, nah...thats "impossible"
-honestly do you think the vast majority of gamers are worried about their electric bill? so just learn to take some "news" with a grain of salt.....relax, aahhhh theeeeeeeeere ya go, NO stress.
You forgot one major component that is costing you more than any other, blu-ray! There is your answer that thing sucks the juice like nothing else.
If you've just put down $600 (plus $X00 for games and accessories) for a PS3, you ain't gonna be worried about $30 more per year on your power bill!!
And apparantly, I was the only one who thought "Oh dear, the poor environment" when I saw this. As opposed to "Great, a chance to bash the opposing console!!" which is what appears to be more important to many others here. Ah well, what's a few more rainforests eh?
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