"You just had to figure that one or the other open world game developers would have something to say on the day of Grand Theft Auto 5's release."
Fun factor, trolling = GTAV. Extreme realism graphics and game play with a huge technical twist = WD. Both played mostly in the city. But very very far from being alike at all.
Fact: GTA 5 is going to go down as one of the best of the generation. Watch Dogs most likely won't be considered in that list. Don't get me wrong watch dogs looks good but not GTA 5 good. Watched many gameplay vids for WD an there's factors like having to do eagle eye thing by hitting a base to unlock an area for hacking. The repetition with that won't go down well.
To be fair, GTA also has an established fanbase and 4 previous games in the franchise, whereas WD is a new IP... If it was a case of GTA 5 being under a different title and being a completely new IP as well, I don't doubt the reception of the community would be different. Personally, I'm not a huge GTA fan. I don't really like playing the "bad guy" in games, like a criminal committing crimes - I more enjoy like playing the hero or the vigilante do-gooder. This is also why I didn't really like Payday. That's not to say that they aren't well made, just not my cup of tea. I imagine I would probably have more fun playing WD.
Fact: Same thing happened to GTAIV and it turned out to be god awful. That game killed the rating system. So many BS 10's.... same thing is happening all over again. Look at it, it's the exact same game play. But with a new map, new players and looks much better! Nice to see it go back to the SA days for sure. I wont even compare a this Gen game to a Next Gen game. That's not even fair at all. Wait until you see a Next Gen game first before you go around posting opinionated responses. For some of us have already seen them and played them. Besides again, these two games have zero to do with each other. Disagree all you want. If GTAV was so good to you. Then you wouldn't be on here disagreeing. You'd be off playing it. Again, WD ( Next Gen ) is going to blow you away in visuals and game play. Night and day. It so nice to have seen both, lol. :D
People who enjoy open world games will get both of these. GTA fans especially will be interested in Watch Dogs due to the similarities. The two can co-exist peacefully.
Zblacktt So you're putting watch dogs on a pedestal before you play it...then say GTA5 is the same as GTA4? Your credibility is lost GTA5 gameplay will trump WD gameplay....plain and simple fact is WD is a current gen game on next gen consoles. Besides Rockstar has proven themselves time and time again...even with GTA 4 it wasn't the perfect game...yet its still one of the realest worlds this generation....Ubisoft has a long way to go to be compared to R*s open worlds..but WD does look fun... Great time for gamers who love open world games...but zblack you act as if people haven't seen Watch Dogs
I'm sure we will all be ready for Watch Dogs come release and I bet it will be great. Still, lets be realistic here, going by everything we know, in 12 months time we will all most likely be returning to Los Santos because of how well designed the mp sounds.. going by what we know about Watch Dogs, can anyone really say the same?
Sorry but MP in GTA looks amazing I'm going to be playing that for a long time to come. C:
To a majority of the people above talking as if this game is ONLY on next-gen consoles. It is actually being released on Xbox 360 and PS3 as well. Just compare it to this gen's versions.
'Look at it, it's the exact same game play.' ZBlacktt hasn't played GTA5. Go get informed before spouting nonsense please.
I had to set down GTA 5 so I could disagree with Zblacktt
Watch Dogs + GTA V = buy them both. Play them both. Have a great time. At least that's what I plan on doing.
@ZBlacktt The gameplay of GTA 5 far superior to GTA 4. They too the Shooting mechanics from Max Payne 3 which was amazing, the driving mechanics for Midway Club Drive (whatever that games called lol) and the Weapon wheel and exploration of Red Dead. The game shits on GTA 4 in every single aspect. The story already for me is more interesting than GTA 4 which bored me with the first couple missions.
and how u know that ? you have super powers that can bring you in the future and play the game ? thought so...wait for the game play it make up ur mind judge it then talk thx.
Personally i think open world games are overrated. Like they get their own score system or something. I've played most open world games. I prefer Infamous. Powers.story, etc. I got bored with GTA4 very early and took it back, Maybe GTA5 is awesome. But reviews of GTA4 said the same thing.
I don't think it's just that. GTA V just has a certain magic that appeals to everyone and it's what GTA is known for. Their approach is always epic and excessive with crazy attention to detail. Watch dog looks amazingg but it's gonna be counted as a nex-gen title which means it's gonna be critiqued a lot more heavily. But knowing what Ubisoft did with assassin's creed, i have a good feeling it's gonna be an amazing new franchise.
All Rockstar Games releases have one key flaw that holds them back from ever being remembered in gaming history as anything more than controversial, "fun to mess around in" open world games: Immaturity. Each game features blatant social commentary that a teenager could've thought up, and the story-lines are cliche retellings of the the same story that defines whatever genre the game is apart of. Red Dead, for example (while a brilliant technical achievement) was heavily reminiscent of my later feelings towards Bioshock Infinite (in that it was a pseudo intellectual, incredibly easy game (yes, even on the hardest difficulty) designed for mainstream teenage audiences and video game journalists). I have tons of fun playing these games when they first come out, but once the credits roll, I expend maybe a minute of thought thinking about the game I experienced, shrug, and play something else. I also find the gimmicks and "one time, fun time" events that are always sprinkled throughout their games to get boring incredibly fast, and that the always easy gameplay gets stale and repetitive fast. (not saying Watchdogs will be any better, by the way)
Watch Dogs >>> GTA V.
Why even compare two games that have different baselines? If anything, compare Watch Dogs with Assassins Creed 4 or The Division which both will be available on PS4 and also have vast open worlds. AC4 even features stealth gameplay like some aspects of Watch Dogs. edit: punctuation
You missed "said no one ever" at the end.
You haven't even played it!! Why do people do this? I don't get it. GTAV is amazing. I haven't played WD. I'll save me thought on that for when I play it.
I'm not defending either game. I just got my copy of GTA V and have pre-ordered WD for the PS4. However, it simply defies LOGIC to say that a game that is still 2 months away from release is better or worse than another game. It is silly. WD will sell a lot of units for sure and I am going to assume that it gets great reviews, but who the heck knows at this point? There is NO WAY you can make this statement based upon what a developer/publisher releases to the gaming media. You need to play the game yourself and see how it is. We've seen too many games that are hyped prior to release fall flat (Aliens:CM, anyone?)
ok, I'll still be playing this game 3-5 years from now like I was with GTA 4.
Watch Dogs has nothing on GTA V... nothing! Ubisoft mentioned before that they want to start a yearly franchise from watch dogs.. like assassin's creed or CoD.. how did that turn out like for quality? huh? Quality beets quantity friends.
After playing GTA 5 for 10 hrs so far most fun I had this gen and you can't Beat the sense of humor of a GTA game 10/10 great game.
GTA ALL DAY SON. Watchdogs doesn't even come close to the level of class R* has. Give me a break. Go away.
Watch Dogs is a new IP and must yet prove itself, while GTA has been acclaimed since times of first playstation, not saying its bad or wrong.
Small technical gimmick, more like
From previews alone of both games, you can tell GTA is superior gameplay wise. Watch dogs hacking is a gimmick, the game will be extremely easy and repetitive like Assassins creed.
absolutely not. watch dogs has proven nothing with its trailers. you talk about realistic* graphics, but have you seen the ps3/360 version of the game? looks like a PS3 launch title. the people at R* on the other hand wont even talk about a next gen released because theyre so focused on the current gen version of the game. this is just a new kid in town talking tough shit. wait till the game is released.
Trolling level = Aiden Pearce
Sure, for those that haven't forgotten about WD may visit for a week or two. Within that timeframe it may rack up some 80-90% average review scores. Then, even with next-gen already released, people are still going to be on GTA V for years on. Good luck, Ubisoft.
Plus a "relaunch" of GTA V onto next gen. Nothing can compare to GTA in any generation.
Yeah, and after the next-gen versions it's a matter of years til R* do a fully next-gen GTA which is really inconceivable at this point, but it's becoming their routine defining open-world again and again now.
Why are you guys overhyping GTA to the point that you sound like it's the greatest thing to ever happen to gaming ever?
Hmmm, not going as far as to say that, But GTA V is nothing less than revolutionary. R* Fanboy, GTA fanboy or not. Anyone that truly knows their facts about this game would at least have to admit that. This game is amazing.
Revolutionary:- Adjective - "radically new or innovative; outside or beyond established procedure, principles, etc.: a revolutionary discovery." GTAV isn't radically new or innovative, it isn't outside or beyond established procedure or principles. How is it revolutionary then?
@DragonK you have no opinion of your own so you run to your dictionary? pfff. pitiful.
Short of sonic 1 & 2 on mega drive and minecraft on pc - GTA is the best thing to happen to gaming for me in my own personal wants and needs.
'outside or beyond established procedure' Having three characters with intelligently structured story and gameplay which then effects the mission structure as a result is beyond the established procedure. I like the way all the people who couldn't get their hands on GTA5 are just acting bitter.
DragonKnight, have you actually played GTA5?
@dj3boud: So words are opinion based now? @LucasEVille: That's cool. Cheers. @Pintheshadows: No, no it's not. Are you actually trying to say you've never heard of any game that had more than 1 main character that affects the main story? Because I immediately had one game spring to mind after you made this comment. Also, who's bitter? What I find funny is that you are all indirectly admitting (except for LucasEVille who was direct about it) that you are hyping GTA V to be the greatest thing to ever happen to gaming. This tells me that you either have low standards, or haven't been gaming long. How was me asking a question, and then replying to an incorrect word use bitter? @DoctorJones: Does my playing GTA V or not affect whether or not it is revolutionary?
just wondering what you do consider a revolutionary game? you're not very specific in all your replies as to what games you feel are revolutionary.
@warczar: That's because I wasn't the one that claimed a game was revolutionary. I think the truly revolutionary games have already happened. That's not to say that they can't happen again, but nothing about GTA V is so totally new and different that it's a revolution in gaming. It doesn't have the largest open world, the gameplay mechanics are standard GTA fare, there have been other games that have had multiple main protagonists whose personal stories affected the overall story. I mean, do you honestly think that GTA V stands up there with games like Wolfenstein 3D which practically put first person shooters on the map by itself? Is it as innovative as Donkey Kong Country was when it released? Does it change gaming the way the very first online console game ever released did? Or what about the very first 3D game on consoles? When history looks back at GTA V, do you honestly think people will say "this changed gaming in ____ ways" or will they say "this was the pinnacle of the Grand Theft Auto series at the time?" What part of GTA V do you think will change the direction of how games are made in the future? GTA WAS a revolutionary series, which explains the clones it had last generation and coming into this generation, but what does GTA V do that is so radically new and different? When I think of revolutionary games, I think of Final Fantasy VII that brought global appeal for the JRPG genre. I think of the aforementioned Wolfenstein 3D. I think of Halo CE, which really brought competitive FPS games to consoles in a huge way. I think of GTA 3 SA which is the pinnacle of the GTA series and hammered home how impressive an open world console game can be. Do you honestly think that GTA V can stand with those games that did so much for gaming? Do you honestly think that it can be compared as being as revolutionary as that? I never once said that GTA V was a bad game, but of course if you don't immediately pledge your undying love and soul to a GTA game then you're a hater. I don't care if people love or hate GTA V. I'm saying that it's not a revolutionary game, it's not the greatest thing to happen to gaming, and people that create this kind of hype are a huge problem in the gaming industry because it affects future titles and the expectations that are placed on those titles. This in turn drives up production and marketing costs and creates nothing but a mess of problems. History backs that up folks.
Actally i´m pumped to visit Chicago aswell
Watch Dogs is talking big for an unproven product, tbh to me watch dogs interaction simplicity is what lets it down for me. Its pretty much running around pressing X or square to hack everything instantly, one button press contextual actions as well taken straight from assassins creed. Thats how it looks, IDK it could be great actually playing it.
Best selling PS4 Bundle made is WD. As if playing GTA is any different then all the other GTA games? I think we both know that answer. They both have their place and have nothing to do with each other at all. People just like drama and getting hits to their site stories. Not even worth the debate. :) Lukas are you that clueless? Go look at AC games.... different times and different Assassins in completely different worlds. You have zero credibility to me now. I was playing GTA when people had no clue about it. I'm more then aware. Time to take the fanboy game glasses off and see it for what it really is. Heck stay with the game for all I care... I'll be the the huge movement to Next Gen day 1.
"As if playing GTA is any different then all the other GTA games? I think we both know that answer." I find that INCREDIBLY ironic coming from someone who loves Assassins Creed......... And for you information, ive been playing GTA5 all day today and it is NOTHING like GTA4. Apart from the fact its a sanbox game. You seem to know so much about GTA in your comments but something tells me you haven't played GTA5 at all....... What, just because its called GTA and is a sandbox like the rest of the games, then they are all automatically the same? Flawed logic is flawed.
Lmao @ "Go look at AC games.... different times and different Assassins in completely different worlds" Go look at GTA games different characters different worlds different eras....if you think GTA3 and GTA4 or GTA:SA and GTA5 worlds are the same, it is you my friend who has no credibility. As a big fan of the open world sandbox genre...Ubisoft games have a long way to go to compete with Red Dead let alone GTA. BTW I'm gettin Watch dogs and Black Flag at launch on PS4....totally unbiased here....but you seem to have a grudge with the GTA series
"time to take the fanboy glasses off" Again, extremely ironic judging from your blind love of AC. Ive played every AC game, 1000 gamerscore on AC2 (one of my favourite games), apart from location, they are ALL the same, same quests, same graphics, same mechanics, same animations. AC4 looks like the rest...but with nicer visuals and a different setting. Ill be joining next gen day 1 too, but for now ill play the most detailed, ambitious and fun packed open world game ever released.....in my opinion of course. "You have zero credibility to me now" Why? Because i have a different opinion? Whatever, lol.
Rain, you should try and finish a game first, lol. Damn never seen so many started games and dropped outs before. You must really have short attention span and you like open world games?
@ZBlacktt Lol, so that's what 'talking out of your ass' sounds like.
Finish a game? what are u saying? I've beaten every game that holds my attention....if it doesn't on to the next one Honestly I probably do that's what makes open world sandbox games so great....you can play the story or go do the many other things in the world that catches your attention.
Close your mouth please ZBlacktt before you drown us all in nonsense, albeit amusingly ironic nonsense. Haha. No you weren't ZLiar. The original GTA was an immediate hit on PC and hugely publicised. Anyone who picked up any gaming publication knew about it months beforehand.
Honestly, I am exited for both. Still haven't bought GTAV no money atm but will soon enough.
Well I bet there's gonna be 4 more Watch Dogs games before the next main GTA is out. GTA 5 Watch Dogs. Watch Dogs 2. Watch Dogs: Off the Leash Watch Dogs: Back in the Saddle Watch Dogs 3 GTA 6
You forgot the expansions which Rockstar will undoubtly release for GTA 5 my friend.
Haha, "back in the saddle" Ubisoft sure do love that milk. http://www.gamesprays.com/f...
Really... Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas Grand Theft Auto Advance Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories Grand Theft Auto IV Rockstar North Grand Theft Auto: The Lost and Damned Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars Grand Theft Auto: The Ballad of Gay Tony Grand Theft Auto V ( back to Los Santos ) Inb4 Grand Theft Auto V The left over stories... RDR Single player was pure epic. The online was not that good at all sadly. Max Payne 3 was total garbage. Got a price cut 2 months after it came out. LA Noire was decent, I plated it and did all the DLC. Compare that to Assassin's Creed Watch Dogs The Division The Crew Splinter Cell Far Cry One hand is trolling good times and on the other serious gamers.
@ZBlacktt Wow, seriously. Ill just leave this here.......... http://www.vg247.com/2013/0... Go ahead and make a list of Ubi titles for me, and while you are there, make sure to include the date at the end of each one. There hasn't been a single year without some form of Assasins Creed since the franchise started, Ubisoft are KNOWN to milk their franchise, im pretty sure i heard that Far cry is being turned into a yearly franchise too now. The fact you list GTA games like that means something is laughable. You want milk with those cookies? "Max Payne 3 was total garbage" Haha, oh man. Where is that ignore button..... One more thing...why do you keep referring to GTA as a "trolling good time", GTA is much more than that now, that backs up my confirmation that you have yet to play GTA5.
Hey Zblack Why did you leave out the numerous versions of Assassins Creed or Splinter Cell? Probably cause it would be detrimental to your point huh?
Sadly, you are probably spot on. Ubisoft will milk Watch Dogs dry just like they did with Assassins Creed.
Thank you, & kudos. ^.^
My stay in Los Santos will end when I say it does. And best believe it's not going to be any time soon ;) Needless to say, I'm excited about Watch Dogs as well. Looks like I'm going to be on vacation in two different cities.
My concern is that GTA V is reaping much more praise from reviewers than it diserves. From 37 critics the metascore is 98 but from 391 user reviews the score is 7.9. The exact same results as those for for GTA IV! It got 98 from 86 critics and 7.9 from 2440 users! I bought into the hype for GTA IV and was disappointed but luckily that won't happen this time.
that is your opinion... personally i think the reviewers are totally justified in giving this game the high scores it's been getting. the real problem is that they give every other game under the sun the same high score which then starts to make GTA look like it's "just another AAA" like the rest of the trash. The game is pure epic. not everyone will agree because we all like different things in terms of story, characters etc... but what R* have just from a technical standpoint on this dying hardware is nothing short of pure magic. just for that alone i think the game is more deserving of a 10/10 then any other game i can think of... then add to that the missions are actually fun, the script is brilliant, the gun fights etc are fantastic, the care models are such a huge step up from so many open world games with cars .. i could go on. there are some games that get lots of high scores from everyone and you just have to wonder why? GTA5 is not one of those games! it is very clear after playing all day today why it's got the scores it has, because it really is that good ! well at least for most of us anyway...
True, but that was gta4, we are talking about gta5 which is a far better game then gta 4 anyway. If gta4 was over hyped, even taking that into consideration it was still an easy 8 out of 10 compared to other games. if we then look at how much better gta5 is compared to 4 both from a technical point of view but also in terms of gameplay, story, fun factor... then gta5 still comes up as an easy 9 if not 10.
using metacritic user scores...rofl
Looking at the metacritic user scores you can see what a joke the ones that are giving it a 0 - 5 are. The reviews are extremely short, don't really say why it deserves such a low score and the few reasons they do give make no sense. How can overall user score be taken serious? I don't have the game yet but it looks great and I can't wait to play it.