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Submitted by eezo 340d ago | news

Ryse: Son of Rome runs at Native 900p, but Xbox One upscales all titles to 1080p clarifies Microsoft

Aaron Greenberg, Chief of Staff for Devices and Studios Group at Microsoft has confirmed that Ryse: Son of Rome runs at native 900p but Xbox One upscales the game to 1080p. (Ryse: Son of Rome, Xbox One)

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lying_cake  +   340d ago
1600X900? that's specific
Muerte2494  +   340d ago
Ouch!!!!!
That has to sting a little. But the game looks great none the less. Given the hardware limitations at the moment, Crytek still managed to impress. Microsoft needs to get better optimized drivers for the EsRAM. It's still a good looking game though.

@lying_cake,

It's far above 720p output and only slightly below 1080p. Developers haven't really gotten a chance to wrap their heads around getting the most out of EsRAM, so unfortunately this is what we can expect ATM.
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lying_cake  +   340d ago
i agree, this is a launch game i will be picking up... but it just seems odd why that resolution and not 720
tuglu_pati  +   340d ago
Oh my... this thread is going to go places.
ErcsYou  +   340d ago | Well said
MS needs to get their sh!t together and stop posting false information http://n4g.com/news/1354297...
Very unprofessional.
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tuglu_pati  +   340d ago
@ ErcsYou

What are u complaining about. Didn't they just tell you how it is.
ErcsYou  +   340d ago
@tuglu_pati

They sure did, but what are they going to say two days from now? Makes you wonder if there is any communication at MS. If there was they would have had their facts straight before posting BS.
Skips  +   340d ago | Well said
So is Forza 5 the only exclusive on Xbone that runs in 1080p right now? But Turn 10 getting it to run in 1080p and 60fps shouldn't be hard with baked lighting and static environments/weather IMO.

@ErcsYou

"They sure did, but what are they going to say two days from now? Makes you wonder if there is any communication at MS."

Agreed, wouldn't be surprised if we here the same with Halo 5 later down the line. : /

Like Killer Instinct, a basic fighter only running in 720p, after supposedly running in "1080p/6fps", and now this...

EDIT: Not that anyone believed it... I guess this confirms MS has no such "secret sauce" left to reveal that's supposedly hidden in their console. Something not even DEVELOPERS working on EXCLUSIVES know about. lol

I remember someone saying "wait for the end of the month", forgot who it was though... Most people spouting such nonsense, just sorta blended into one giant blob.
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badz149  +   340d ago | Well said
900p?? after "confirming" 1080p a couple days back? (link provided by ErcsYou) LOL

not that 900p is bad but do they HAD to lie back then? there will be blood int hhis comment section for sure.

***grab popcorn***
thechosenone  +   340d ago
And after all the BS they've been talking these last few weeks about how the Xbone and PS4 are neck and neck performance wise and then we get this new little nugget of info...man I hope Gabe/Steam crush the Xbone next gen and finally kick MS out the console business.

|Performance-wise, the target is 30fps, with v-sync engaged

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...
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ShwankyShpanky  +   340d ago | Well said
"It's far above 720p output and only slightly below 1080p."

I didn't know "far" and "slightly" were synonyms.

900-720=180
1080-900=180

http://i.qkme.me/3pf0wi.jpg
aCasualGamer  +   340d ago
I still think it's crazy that we're starting a new generation and still.. we don't have 1080p native as standard. I'm kind of confused... In what way is this new gen revolutionary if the games can't even run at 1080p native? Aren't these consoles basically Xbox 360 1.5 and PS3 1.5?

I don't know for sure the res PS4 games will run at natively. But it's still quite the turnoff if Microsoft has to clarify and tell us they only upscale the games to 1080p.
NukaCola  +   340d ago
This was a 360 title. Thought it would of been a cake walk to run I on the Xbone.
FamilyGuy  +   340d ago | Funny
LOL, I love seeing these things right before they blow up. They're lucky GTA 5 just came out so this won't get as much attention.

It's not even like 900p is so bad, it's just after all the bragging this whole time and then Aarons 1080p twitter post just 2 freakin days ago. And don't go giving him credit for clearing it up, he had to. If he didn't digital foundry would have as soon as they got the game.

It really is best to just keep quiet.

@badz149

HOLY CRAP!! I didn't even think about that. 180s everywhere! It's almost scary O.O

Aaron just pulled a 180 on his twitter post
the resolution has exactly 180 less vertical lines than what he claimed.

The 3rd console curse is REAL!!!
wait a minute... 3rd console... 3... 3 times the desired 60 frames per second = 180!!!

*In Scooby Doo voice*
I'm g-g-g-gettting outta here!
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badz149  +   340d ago
@ShwankyShpanky

OMG...the 180 is strong with this ONE! LOLOLOLOL
grassyknoll  +   340d ago
900p is just over 2/3's of 1080p. That's quite significant.
BitbyDeath  +   340d ago
This is why Sony haven't guaranteed 1080P/60FPS for their games. Wait til it hits and then confirm, not before.
devwan  +   340d ago | Funny
@Muerte2494 "It's far above 720p output and only slightly below 1080p."

Hey with that kind of statement you're potentially a leading candidate for a senior position on the xbox one PR team.

It's 180 either way...

1080 - 180 = 900
720 + 180 = 900

180... hmm, now why does that number ring a bell...

@grassyknoll "900p is just over 2/3's of 1080p. That's quite significant."

Well it's 5/6ths, it's directly between 2/3rds and the full 1080. 720P is 2/3rds of 1080P.
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mikeslemonade  +   340d ago
Ryse is gonna be a 7.5 meta score game. Move on..
devwan  +   340d ago
It's interesting to see what the difference is here, between 1080P and 900P and those resolutions at 60fps and 30fps. Some people suggested it's not really that much, but when you add up the amount of pixels being pushed:

1600x900 = 1,440,000 (just under 1.5m pixels)

1920x1080 = 2,073,600 (just over 2m pixels)

Ryse is doing only 3/4 the work the previous claim stated in terms of pure resolution.

When you factor in 900P @ 30fps and 1080P @60fps (although I'm not sure Ryse was ever stated to be 60frames), things look much worse:

1600x900x30 = just over 43m pixels per frame

1920x1080x60 = just over 124m pixels per frame

Every frame, 1600x900x30 is only doing about 1/3rd the work of 1920x1080x60.

"only 180 pixels difference " doesn't begin to tell the story.
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black0o  +   340d ago
Q: since most of the xbone exclusive are doing less then 1080p, what about the malti-plat titles ??

I kinda see why MS didn't show any demos so FaR ... a lot of ppl will get angry on 23rd of Nov
JimmyLmao  +   340d ago
@Muerte2494

"It's far above 720p output and only slightly below 1080p."

last time i checked,

1080 - 900 = 180
900 - 720 = 180

And then you can add on the fact that it's framerate isn't even locked at 30fps
pyramidshead  +   340d ago
Oh boy. After confirming native 1080p. Gotta hope Forza is 1080p native :x.

Wheres frigy? What happened to 2K and 4K gaming aye? :P. Maybe that's a lie too?
jay2  +   340d ago
Erm, No, they've had Dev-kits for 3 years.
FATAL1TY  +   340d ago
Ryse = 900p + 20 FPS
Angeljuice  +   340d ago
" It's far above 720p output and only slightly below 1080p."

Lol, it is EXACTLY half way between the two!

720+180=900
900+180=1080

Rose tinted spectacles?

Edit: Sorry JimmyLmao, I jumped on that without reading your reply.
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NarooN  +   340d ago
They need to wrap their heads around the EsRAM? No, what needs to happen is people need to stop thinking that the EsRAM is some magical thing that will boost graphics performance tenfold or something.

Ryse started out as a 360 game, has been in development longer than most other X1 titles, yet they couldn't even get it at 1080p native, even though MS themselves "confirmed" it was 1080p native not too long ago. Come on, they've been lying about a lot of things (as they always do) lately. Can't trust anything they say anymore.

1600x900 isn't bad, but why did they lie and say it was 1080p not too long ago? Smoke and mirrors.
mikeslemonade  +   340d ago
I think it's unacceptable to have the majority of the games under 1080p this generation. This generation that should be the standard. Arcade games and innovative centric games can be under 1080p but if you are a blockbuster or flagship title you better be 1080p.
dantesparda  +   340d ago
@ Muerte

1080p is around 30% higher resolution than 900p, so its not that "slight"

And next up is Titanfall, which a guarantee 60fps yet (or even developed by Respawn)
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar... (read the last 2 questions)

Edit: I see Dewvan beat me to it, well said man
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dantesparda  +   340d ago
Hey Devwan

I just saw your second post and I like where you took it, cuz its technically true, however you did make a mistake, its not "per frame" but per second"

1600x900x30 = just over 43m pixels per sec

1920x1080x60 = just over 124m pixels per sec

Either way, its doing a hell of lot more processing

oops typo on my previous comment, I mean to say
that Titanfall ISNT a guarantee 60fps yet
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JokesOnYou  +   340d ago
Well they need to be accurate the first time they speak specifically about things like this....so really its just a stupid mistake on Aaron Greenburgs part. That said this won't take anything away from my enthusiasm for this game, those graphics look superb in action as we've all seen, and everyone with hands on have noted.
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vulcanproject  +   340d ago
I mooted this exact scenario ages ago. I said that devs on Xbox one are probably going to target 1600 X 900 and pixels will be stolen. It's a launch game but expect to see more games like this.

I predicted PS4 would have 1080p versions of games while Xbox one settled for 1600 X 900 more often than not on multi and exclusives just because it's hardware is much more suited to lesser resolutions.
Sony360  +   340d ago
"ouch"?

It's still better than native 720p.
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SilentNegotiator  +   340d ago
"So is Forza 5 the only exclusive on Xbone that runs in 1080p right now?"

We had racing games LAST gen that were almost 1080p60fps. If Forza is the only game at 1080p on Xbox, I'm not impressed.
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shadow2797  +   340d ago
"720+180=900
900+180=1080 "

I can't believe this was repeated as many times as it was. It's math. It's extremely simple to check.

1280x720 = 921,600 pixels
1600x900 = 1,440,000 pixels
1920x1080 = 2,073,600 pixels

900p - 720p = 518,400 pixels
1080p - 900p = 633,600 pixels

So 900p is actually 115,200 pixels closer to 720p than it is to 1080p. Whether or not that's significant to you or not is up to you, but it's definitely not exactly in between.

I realize I'm just adding fuel to this fire, but I can't stand by and let that silly 180 lie be repeated when the math is so easy.

Here's an image I whipped up that shows the difference:
http://s24.postimg.org/ip5h...
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mewhy32  +   340d ago
Well now come on. This isn't any surprise. Developers have already been quoted stating that code running at 30fps 1920X1080p on the PS4 would only run 20fps 1600X900p on the bone. For the record that's 10fps less at a 1/3 resolution reduction. Thats from a developer. you know, people that make games?
u got owned  +   339d ago
for all of you talking smack... Did you now The Order is said to be running at 800p.
Haules  +   339d ago
LOL! You call that next gen? lol
Ryse is 1600x900 and runs at 23-25fps so much for "next gen"

Xboone = FAIL!
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Tk731  +   339d ago
@ShwankyShpanky

That isn't how it works.
720p is 1280 * 720 = 921,600 pixels
900p is 1600 * 900 = 1,440,000 pixels
1080p is 1920 * 1080 = 2,073,600 pixels
inveni0  +   339d ago
@Muerte2494

You said: "It's far above 720p output and only slightly below 1080p."

I want to show you something real quick. Ready?

900-720=180
1080-900=180

It's smack dab in the middle on the horizontal lines. Try not to spin numbers. Numbers don't lie.

EDIT: I see this is already being said over and over.

@shadow2797

You don't factor in the screen width when comparing resolution, because that is ratio dependent. For instance, a game running 1600x900 will look just as good on screen as a game running 1200x900. It's the height in pixels that delivers the better image.
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ramiuk1  +   339d ago
why or how can your comment get disagrees?
full of fekwits this site.
devwan  +   339d ago
@dantesparda Yeah, sorry. I made typos/brain farts - I wrote "frame" instead of "second" a whole three times, lol, but it was too late to edit by the time I noticed. I think people understood what I was getting at and spotted the typos as you did. Oh well :)

@shadow2797 "I can't believe this was repeated as many times as it was. It's math. It's extremely simple to check.

1280x720 = 921,600 pixels
1600x900 = 1,440,000 pixels
1920x1080 = 2,073,600 pixels"

Good point well made, 1600x900 is closer to 1280x720 than 1920x1080 in terms of pixel array, people were obviously comparing vertical resolution only and to be fair to them that's all we know 100% for sure. Assuming Greenberg means 1600x900 when he says 900P is sensible as that's the same aspect ratio, but given his track record now I don't think we should even assume 1600 horizontal pixels until he explicitly says so (or better still, someone who actually knows his stuff does so).
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devwan  +   339d ago
@u got owned
"for all of you talking smack... Did you now The Order is said to be running at 800p"

It might be using 800 pixels vertically, but it isn't rendering the frame at 800 and stretching to 1080 in a bid to cheat, it's an artistic choice - read any interview with the devs, they'll use the word "filmic" or "cinematic" more than ms throwing around TV TV TV at a console launch.

The Order 1886 is displaying a 1080P screen and using only the 800 central pixels with a black border of 140 pixels above and below in order to achieve an effective screen ratio of 2.40:1 and give it a cinematic feel. If that's something you don't like, go complain about it in a relevant topic instead of damage controlling and trolling this one with your half-baked tales of woe.
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Skips  +   339d ago | Well said
@u got owned

"Did you now The Order is said to be running at 800p."

The Order doesn't even have a release date yet, and is nowhere CLOSE to being finished, or even optimized. lol

Nice try though. :D

EDIT: btw

Ready At Dawn = Studio who's only had experience with handhelds until now.
Cyrtek = Studio that's had MUCH experience on PC and focuses on nothing but visuals.
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esemce  +   339d ago
It's a bit sad to think that we will have these consoles for 5-8 years and they cannot give us exclusives that easily run at 1080p@60fps.
imt558  +   339d ago
Drivers can't help!!! eSRAM is a pain in the ass in XO. Read this article :

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...
Joe913  +   339d ago
Remember after the announcement of Xbone when they told us about the DRM thing didn’t someone I believe a dev say that because the Xbox need internet connection that when not playing online the games would be a lower resolution but when on the internet the cloud is supposed to bump your game to 1080p 60fps I wonder if this anything to do with that.

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schubacca  +   339d ago
Haterz gonna hate.

1) The game is pretty but the gameplay is sh1t.

2) The game is only 900p

If the game was slated before, then why does this matter at all considering that it is a launch title?
mewhy32  +   339d ago
Well upscaling is alright i guess. but I'd much prefer that my games be in native 1080p (PS4). That was there's no blur, no upscale artifacting, etc. But hey if all the power you can muster will only get you 1600X900 then ...... well.....
Gaming101  +   339d ago
lol I'm not sure if you can do math, but 900 is exactly in between 720 and 1080. Literally, add or subtract 180. So much for objectivity!
solidjun5  +   339d ago
@u got owned

"for all of you talking smack... Did you now The Order is said to be running at 800p."

The game isn't even close to being done. Sounds like you're doing damage control for Microsoft. I wonder if they paid you.
ShinMaster  +   339d ago
900p @ 24fps?
http://youtu.be/VzVlVRe9QYI...

It's no biggie for those who weren't overhyping "Codename Kingdoms", the Kinect game for 360... I mean "Ryse".
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dantesparda  +   339d ago
I here ya, Devwan, that happens to me all the time

And @ Vulcan, i remember you saying that

And i dont think Ryse looks bad 9definitely the best looking game on X1), but damn are the animations stiff and choppy, GOW/GOW:A, definitely has better animation than that, and graphically GOW/GOW:A definitely give it a good run for its money
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EeJLP-  +   339d ago
@inveni0
"You don't factor in the screen width when comparing resolution, because that is ratio dependent. For instance, a game running 1600x900 will look just as good on screen as a game running 1200x900. It's the height in pixels that delivers the better image."

So you're telling me a game running 1x900 is going to look great and not just be a line?

One dimension may be 78% more important visually (16/9), but that doesn't mean the other makes no difference.

In your example, 1600 would look 1/3rd better than 1200 (you'd see more to the sides).

Your example is the same as saying 1600x900 is no better than 1600x675. Both are false (it's basically your example turned 90*).
Enemy  +   339d ago
@ u got owned: Wow, you should seriously be banned for spreading false information about The Order. This is actually the first time that I've seen an Xbox fanboy lie about the resolution of a game to deceive readers, which says a lot about you, really.

Nothing is known about the The Order's resolution, or even gameplay. No one but Ready At Dawn has seen it in motion, so the fact that you're spreading BS without source shows how pathetically bitter you are that Ryse, as expected, is going to fail.
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christocolus  +   339d ago
i just want the damn game out already...900, 720, 1080 who cares..ms should just kep investing in getting more great devs to the platform,new ips and creating more studios in addition to those already announced..
FamilyGuy  +   340d ago
Wow, the news just keeps on rolling in.

Isn't this the same resolution in that "unoptimized" scenario where devs claimed the PS4 to have a 50% more power/speed advantage?

Seems rather coincidental

*doesn't believe in coincidences*

And after all that boasting about Ryse being 1080p.
Smh
I've never seen two competing companies where one just kept stumbling over itself so bad. Still waiting for someone to draw up a gif with a foot in penellos mouth.
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FordGTGuy  +   340d ago
That same scenario says unoptimized PS4 games were running at 1080p@30fps but all PS4 games are running at 30 fps does that mean all of them are unoptimized?

Also how does that explain Forza Motorsport 5 running at 1080p@60fps?
svoulis  +   340d ago
@fordGTguy

Look at any off-screen gameplay. The amount of post-processings is what is making the game run @ 60FPS.

Also no real-time lighting, no weather effects and basically a static skybox.

It will look and play good but the limitations are clearly noticeable.

Even the Forza 5 devs said expect jaggies on the back of some cars cause its impossible to hide.
M-M  +   340d ago
@FordGTGuy,

From the tweet.

"@deaconblade Update from team, Forza 5 is native @1080p, Ryse is native @900p, but >>>Xbox One upscales all titles to 1080p<<< & they look amazing"

They said Forza is native 1080p, even though all games are upscaled to 1080p? What? Kind of like how they said Ryse was native 1080p a few days ago.
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FamilyGuy  +   340d ago
That's not even what I was saying.

It's more like it gives validation to that claim. It's the exact same number.

Also shows that the devs for Ryse aren't putting much effort into optimizing it for a better resolution. They figured 900p is "good enough". I don't really blame them either, given all the glitches and frame-rate issues they have to clean up before launch.

Forza devs obviously set 1080p as their target/goal and made whatever sacrifices they had to in order to achieve that goal. There's a pretty big difference between the special effects in all other next gen racers and Forza. I'm not wasting my time getting into that debate again though.
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monkeyDzoro  +   340d ago
@FordGTGuy
People talk about those 60fps on Forza5, like it has reached the moon.
Listen, GT6 on PS3 actually runs at 720p/60fps on a 7-year old hardware. With all the same post-processings in that game.
No denial, it's very good to see Forza5 running at 1080p/60fps BUT according to what devs have put in that game (which is near to nothing except that Drivatar), it's just NORMAL.
shoddy  +   340d ago
I heard that teh clowdz can increase the resolution 2160p when they update for 4k tv.
joke
black0o  +   340d ago
+up
was thinking the same thing .. man now if Watch dogs or AC4 happened to run at 1080p on ps4 and 900p on the x1 u'll see some fanboys spinning it as well

the launch week gonna be very interstIng
sync90  +   340d ago
Your, in a scooby doo voice 'im outta here' cracked me up!
husomc  +   339d ago
very soon MS will try to make 900p the industry standard for gaming
Irishguy95  +   340d ago
That's because it's a very common resolution...
badz149  +   340d ago
not THAT common. 1366X736 is far more common as many HD ready tvs were on that resolution. there are no native 1600X900 tv out there and even pc monitors with that resolution is pretty rare. laptops maybe but there are more 1600X1050 monitors out there than 900.

it's common resolution for recent pc games but tvs are not designed to run at that resolution and will show "input unsupported".
SilentNegotiator  +   339d ago
Not in TVs...
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assdan  +   340d ago
lol, they're talking about how this game will have the best visuals ever when it can't even pull of 1080p. And to anyone that things upscaling means anything, it doesn't. Games have been doing that forever.
T2  +   339d ago
cant they just release it on xbox 360 ? i mean it started there and I may even play it on 360
...release it on 360 and I may give it a try... it's not coming for 360 ,and I just missed that news , is it??
tordavis  +   339d ago
No one ever said that it runs 1080p native, they said it runs at 1080p. When you load up the game on your 1080p tv, it will be running in 1080p. who cares what the native resolution is when the final is 1080p? Oo
Kleptic  +   339d ago
I've always enjoyed this logic...

The modern HDTV standard is 1920 x 1080 resolution, with a refresh rate of 60hz, or multiples of that...

this means...if an image is taking up the full screen...guess what...its displayed at 1920 x 1080 resolution...

on most TV's, you can change the settings to display sources at their native resolution...with those settings, if its not full 1920 x 1080 resolution, the image will NOT take up the entire screen...

but its cool, you're absolutely right...upscaling is every bit as good as something being natively processed at 1920 x 1080...this is why there is absolutely no visible difference between a Blu Ray movie and a tired ass DVD...upscaling abilities are able to make up pixels out of thin air to the point that no one can tell the difference................righ t?
sourav93  +   339d ago
Wrong. Aaron Greenberg said 3 days ago that Ryse ran natively at 1080p : http://www.unscripted360.co...
SilentNegotiator  +   339d ago
"who cares what the native resolution is when the final is 1080p?"

People with working eyeballs that can tell the massive difference between upscaled 900p and native 1080p. The difference being several 100,000 less pixels worth of detail.
2cents  +   339d ago
Launch titles on a console that hasn’t been released. Everything is an unknown. Unfinished drivers, devs guesstimating available resources, minimal optimization based on SDK's not being robust enough to offer unique tools to maximize overall quality.

There are so many factors that make judging the current cycle of games that are going to be released in the launch window difficult, but it doesn’t seem to stop many from deciding the final outcome based on nothing more than rumour and speculation.

All I know is, the games from Xbox and Sony I’ve seen look good, not a massive leap from the current gen when you consider how stunning 'The last of us' is, but still an improvement in some cases.

The real proof will be when we see something like the next God of War or Halo, as the devs will be doing everything in their power to maximise every last ounce of the respective consoles unique powers. But that is a long time to wait. Till then hopefully we will see some gems that are exclusive to each console that can demonstrate to us, the gamers, why the next gen is indeed 'Next Gen!'
Jazz4108  +   339d ago
Didnt sony state the ps3 would run its games at 120fps and 1080p? If you disagree im sure I can find the article. Really if greenburg would not have blasted 1080p on this game 900p is good as I know alot of next gen games on both systems are not hitting native 1080p so all in all its a launch game so I know we will see much better soon but I dont like the misleading info coming from ms the same as all the misleading infor from sony on the ps3 and emotion engine.
2cents  +   339d ago
I agree with you Jazz,

It's a case of too many cooks ruining the broth. But us gamers are partly to blame! Since the internet has become such a strong form of communication and news is instantaneous we have become addicted to feeding our insatiable appitite for knowledge about everything gaming. I check N4G whenever I have a break at work and most evenings just so I can stay up to date with all things Sony/Xbox.

I remember having to waits for monthly mags to get my gaming fix, now it's anywhere and everywhere! The issue stems from many lowbrow sites allowing children with no literary training or journalistic integrity to post so much crap about whatever they want that it's almost impossible to know what headline on this site is worthy of our attention. But we click, we read, we bitch. All the wile mr website owner is laughing at all the hits that are being generated.

I mean look how angry everyone is! It's constant, it's daily, it never seems to let up. These snippets of news are constantly repackaged and sold to us as something new when all it is, is just a polished turd.

The Internet keeps our cages rattled, fanboys make happiness hard to find and we are left to fight it out with eachother on message boards around the WWW. It's a case o too much information with hardly any substance. So when something finally comes along we all jump on it like wild dogs. But he said, she said, I said.

I just can't wait till late Nov so we can all have our shiny new toys and stop fighting and start playing!
dantesparda  +   339d ago
Stop having a conversation with yourself
gapecanpie  +   339d ago
It's 2013 and both systems are still stuck at sub resolutions ... Both systems are a joke.. If you want great graphics just get a gaming PC.
dantesparda  +   339d ago
Amen!
thedon8982z  +   339d ago
Something tells me this is why EA has been so elusive about the final resolution of Battlefield 4!!!Oh well NOVEMBER 15 is right around the corner and I cant wait!!!!
xKugo  +   339d ago
This is pretty shocking, for a variety of reasons. Most notably because it was stated as being 1080p not even 48 hours ago. Though 900p isn't 'that' bad, it's still shocking to know that a next-gen console isn't going to at least make native 1080p a standard. If we can't have 60fps, at least give us native 1080p. All console gamers, whether XB1 or PS4 deserve at least that for the amount of money we're paying.

Another tidbit, is just coincidence that 1600x900(900p) is exactly the same resolution put forth by devs in a scenario situation where games running at 1080p/30fps on PS4 would run at 900p/mid 20sfps. Were I buying a XB1, disappointed would not begin to describe it. Can you imagine if this turns out to be true with both multiplats AND exclusives(excluding Forza). The amount of backtracking would be unreal. Also, some people like Elite who said XB1 would be doing 2k and later on 4k gaming would be eating crow for weeks.

Just my 2¢
jhoward585  +   340d ago
Notice Aaron Greenberg didn't mentioned anything about RYSE frame rate speed. He did for Foza though.
B-radical  +   340d ago
Cause we know whats its aiming for? And they prob just wanna say we have a game running 60fps
M-M  +   340d ago
Next generation gaming right there. So, where are all of the people stating that the Xbox One has some super secret sauce? If the Xbox One had better specs, it should be able to do 1080p without a problem. This also confirms why most Xbox One games can do 60FPS.
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Muerte2494  +   340d ago
It's all about EsRAM
much like the EdRAM inside the Wii U, developers have yet to make any kind of techniques for get the extra bandwidth out of them. These were put in there to help rectify that narrow DDR3 pipeline. But if developers don't properly use it then this is what we can expect.

If you get a disagree, it wasn't from me. I'm buying ps4 day one. Xbox One down the line if they ever remove Kinect and drop the price.
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AznGaara  +   340d ago
If this gen is anything to go by then don't be surprised when Devs don't take extra time to fully optimize one console after coding for another. I mean it took FOREVER for PS3 ports to be on par with their 360 counterparts.

So I expect that mentality will carry through next gen except with the Ps4 being the "superior" version since its "so easy to develop for."
windblowsagain  +   340d ago
It's not just an edram problem.

16 rops. 68g/s bandwidth. 1.31tf.

That is the rez most likely 99% xboxone games will have because it does not have the power.
Ju  +   340d ago
Even if they will it will be hard to match the PS4. Only with optimization at it's fullest it might come close - it will never go beyond. There are just too much hard facts - no optimization in the world can overcome physical boundaries.
AceBlazer13  +   340d ago
isnt it just forza and ki locking 60 fps? a racer and a fighter.
Megaton  +   340d ago
Those are definitely the two easiest genres to max frames with. Even on my janky mid-range graphics card I can hit a locked 60 in fighters and racers easy.
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u got owned  +   340d ago
@Megaton

"Those are definitely the two easiest genres to max frames with."

I agree, but then why isn't Drive Club running at 60 fps? hummm!! but its ok because its on a PS4 with 50% more powah... ;)
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riceking  +   340d ago
@ u got owned

well forza 5 have no real-time lighting, no weather effects and basically a static skybox.

so... try harder next time
u got owned  +   340d ago
@ riceking

So that is the excuse now, i thought racing genre were the easiest to max frames with.
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Megaton  +   340d ago
They are easy to max. Even easier if you have nothing going on in the background.
u got owned  +   340d ago
@ Megaton

So Forza 5 doesn't have weather and day cycle. Ok i give that. But Forza has a much more robust simulation physics engine, not only that completely customization on all cars, more cars than DC just to name a few things, i mean Forza is huge compared to DC and still they manage to run it at 60 fps.
Megaton  +   340d ago
You're making the mistake of assuming that I care about either of those games. I play arcade racers. Not sims or sim wannabes. All I said was that generally those are the two easiest genres to max. I don't know or care why DC doesn't run at 60 FPS (assuming it doesn't, I haven't got a clue if you're even right about that), but I would assume it has a lot more going on than Forza does if it has a significantly lower framerate.
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black0o  +   340d ago
KI actually runs at 720p!! and froza has static environment ;) unlike Driveclub fully dynamic
badkolo  +   340d ago
and yet forza 5 looks better then anything ps4 has shown so far go figure
Ju  +   340d ago
Yes, and so is Ridge Racer 7. /s
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Sevir  +   340d ago
So remember that Edge article, and MS's Response to said article!!!!? I'll just leave this here :)

http://m.edge-online.com/ne...

Microsoft's own guy just confirmed What devs have been saying, anonymous or others...

PS4 > XBOX One!

The devil is in the details as they say!!!
robotgargoyle  +   340d ago
It's a launch game. Who really cares whether it's in 720p, 1080p, or 1080i? People act like 720p is standard def or something, when in reality, the difference is only noticeable on larger TVs (50 inches and above) when comparing 720 to 1080.
black0o  +   340d ago
we care since M$ said that X1 can run games at 4K I mean 4x1080p O.o
1OddWorld  +   339d ago
55inch I see the Difference. Plain as day.
Walker  +   340d ago | Well said
lol, I'm disappointed . the difference between ps4 and xbone games will be about 720p, 900p, 20fps, 30fps for xbone games against 1080p, 30fps, 60fps for ps4 games .

ps4 is the most powerful and popular console in the world right now ! DEAL WITH IT !
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dmitrijs88  +   340d ago
no need to deal with that, but need to buy it :)
DistroyerOfFanbums  +   340d ago
I agree with the PS4 part, moreover they will not release a game on the X1 that's at 20FPS.. It would indeed be at 720p at 30fps, that's the lowest it would go.(Direct X will help in this)
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Props up for the guy being honest, but the question is, will the consumer notice a difference. (Lower resolution)Example, Killer instinct at 720p upscaled to 1080p, ryse 900p upscaled to 1080p, ect.
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Irishguy95  +   340d ago
Most likely due to poor drivers over power.

The 50% difference GPU will not be that huge with regards to res and FPS, it will be big and noticeable but not that massive in the end. The power difference does not add up with the final performance
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B-radical  +   340d ago
Lol alot of us know what the more powerful console is and are dealing with it......didn't stop me from canceling my x1 :D
Flutterby  +   340d ago
You cancelled your xbone preorder ?
5h4h4b  +   340d ago
Oh man. Oh man . Look at this now . Please come out of your delusions xboys. Look at this now. Hmm question comes to the mind " what about forza"
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tuglu_pati  +   340d ago
Read the article Forza is 1080p native, 60 FPS.
5h4h4b  +   340d ago
Bro I read the same about ryse. Now look what happened.

Damn, that edge article was spot on.
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ErcsYou  +   340d ago
So..., Ryse was 1080p naitve two days ago. You feel where im coming from now?
tuglu_pati  +   340d ago
I now where you're coming from, but at least they were honest and came out and updated with the real numbers.
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ziggurcat  +   340d ago
he also said in the same sentence that xbone "upscales all titles to 1080p..."

you can't say something is native 1080p, and in the same breath say all games are upscaled to 1080p... because that means that forza isn't actually native 1080p.
black0o  +   340d ago
to put it simply MS is full Of lies ... behold BF4 on the x1 lol
GinkgoID  +   340d ago
Is it worth pointing out the GT5 ran at native 1080p on the PS3 back int 2010. Easier for a car game.
BOLO  +   339d ago
Wrong. GT5 ran at 1280x1080 resolution.
Jazz4108  +   339d ago
So if forza added real time lighting it would match drive club? Thats a load of bs as we all know forza will be a huge game and driveclub was made to be a free to play at first.
T2  +   339d ago
maybe true but then you have to ask is forza worth 60 bucks MORE than DC? for me as a casual racer the answer is still no.
Man-E-Faces  +   340d ago
And that's that!
There's your XboxOne power for you, even Crytek can't get a linear game to run in native 1080p on XboxOne.
ion53  +   339d ago
The worst part is, one Xbone = 3 Xbones with the Cloud... If they can't do that then, well...
Metfanant  +   340d ago
The power of the cloud
Deadpoolio  +   340d ago
The power of the cloud that most idiots don't seem to grasp will be limited to the power of their internet...Which means all the morons using the wireless with their Wal-mart internet will be screwed
AznGaara  +   340d ago
Next gen tech at its finest.
Sevir  +   339d ago
MS's Console built with power and balance to give consumers the best looking games possible for 10 years.... /S

I'll take the PS4, Edge's Developer interview Nailed it!...
Chris12  +   340d ago
Admit it, who has either played Ryse or watched the videos and thought the game was any less than 1080p.

People are becoming too hung up on specs for their willy waving contest and not understanding what's going on in the game. Very sad.
Metfanant  +   340d ago | Well said
Here us my question for you...

Have they actually been showing us Ryse on an Xbone at 900p upscaled to 1080p? Or have they been showing us Ryse at Native 1080p on PC Dev kits?...
Chris12  +   340d ago
Ryse has been playing on the show floor of Gamescom and other events on proper units, so that would suggest we've seen it at 900p all along.
Deadpoolio  +   340d ago
Nope they've more than likely been showing rise running on those same Windows 7 power PCs with Nvidia graphics cards that they have been caught using a at E3 and Gamescom now also
Metfanant  +   340d ago
Except just 2 days ago MS "confirmed" it was 1080p...and all the screenshots they have been releasing are 1080p...and the videos...also 1080p...

So what gives?

I'm calling BS
Chris12  +   340d ago
The game is up scaled to 1080p from 900p. If you take a screen shot of something running at 1080p, then it will be a 1080p screen shot because that is what you are displaying on screen.

It makes perfect sense, unfortunately people don't want to believe it. At least they came out and corrected the 'native' error quickly this time rather than be called out later on once the console is released.

At the end of the day I'm getting both consoles so willy waving makes no difference to me. Ryse looks fantastic but I'm not sold on the gameplay so will wait until its in the bargain bin, but its interesting that Sony have remained very quiet about all their games and no-one seems to be asking the right questions.

Are all games running in native 1080p? Why has Driveclub not be shown with any AI/other race opponents? Lots of questions I want to ask but people are so hooked up in slamming MS that we're not getting any info from Sony and no-one seems bothered.
robotgargoyle  +   340d ago
Calling bs doesn't make the game look any worse to me. The gameplay looks to be the real issue, but haven't played it.
Kenshin_BATT0USAI  +   339d ago
@Chris

Have you ever used the upscaler on the PS3 to play ps1 and ps2 games?

You'll quickly notice that upscaling is a fucking horrendous concept. There's a reason why there's a question of whether something is native 1080p or upscaled, because it makes a huge difference.
ziggurcat  +   340d ago
i was skeptical.

i've even gone on record asking a certain xbox fanboy to provide proof that their claims of native 1080p were true, and that these games weren't just upscaled.

http://n4g.com/comments/red... (comment 24.1.2 on page #1)

http://n4g.com/comments/red... (comment 46.1.2 on page #2)
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5h4h4b  +   340d ago
The talk of dgpu, secret sauce, balanced architecture is all trash. Believe me guys, we are going to see the difference day one. That must be the reason 3rd party games haven't been shown on x1 yet.
Http://i2.cdnds.net/13/21/6...
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BABY-JEDI  +   340d ago
As time goes by. Both XBone & PS4 will be optimised better. Deal with it! This pizzing match is a poor gamers show.
Ju  +   340d ago
Yeah...we'll see about that. That is, if the Xbox will sell the same as the PS4. If not, it will just be easier to down scale and release with little effort. What gives if with all the optimization in the world Crytek can't get beyond 900? We'll just see two different version in the future. Get the Xbox for the additional features (if TV and Camera or voice command is your thing), but graphically PS4 will be the top dog.
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BABY-JEDI  +   339d ago
It's obvious that quite a few people have went out their way to miss the point that I was making LoL. Good work.
: P
Animal Mutha 76   340d ago | Bad language | show | Replies(2)
Mariusmssj  +   340d ago
I don't know guys I was really expecting more from next gen consoles. Not being able to do to 1080 is rather disappointing.
badz149  +   340d ago
didn't Wii U give you some sort of warning already? 1080p/60fps is not going to be standards on all nextgen consoles IMO, PS4 included!

there might be some (1st party devs most probably) that will try to push for it but most will go for either 720p/60fps or 1080p/30fps. I think.
starchild  +   340d ago
I fully agree. I don't know why so many people got it in their minds that next gen console games were suddenly all going to be 1080p and 60fps.

A lot of console gamers don't realize the amount of power it takes to achieve both 1080p and 60fps on a graphically advanced game.

If the graphics were simple enough, any past generation console could have done 1080p and 60fps. The thing is, gamers expect a certain graphical jump--a quantum leap, really--between generations. Most games simply won't be able to have the kind of graphics people expect, while also running at 1080p and 60fps.
Ju  +   340d ago
"consoleS" ? Which oneS?
AceBlazer13  +   340d ago
well look at that major nelson was right the truth is beginning to come to light
Ame_No_Shiryuu  +   340d ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA...!!!! XD
sashimi   340d ago | Offensive
dmitrijs88  +   340d ago
so in other words - xbone runs all games at 1080 cos they are upscaled but ps4 runs all games at 1080 cos they are native to that.
Animal Mutha 76  +   340d ago
Sounds like that but we don't know ps4 does 1080 native yet on all/most games do we?
dmitrijs88  +   340d ago
If I remember right, a while ago I read a thread where Sony stated that they demand all PS4 games to run at 1080p, correct me if Im wrong.
Elit3Nick  +   339d ago
that doesn't mean native 1080p though
SKullDugger  +   339d ago
In other words you are wrong. Who is the leader of your flock of sheep?
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DoesUs  +   340d ago
Oops. Shame. What happened with the 4k gaming Elite was talking about? Will this be turned on later down the line?
ziggurcat  +   340d ago
i'm sure once misterx starts spinning things, elite will be back here spamming the forums with that nonsense.

the fact is, 4K games won't happen on either system - 4K is only being supported for video playback.
EXVirtual  +   339d ago
I'm not even sure we're gonna get full 4k at 30 fps in the ninth gen.
majiebeast  +   340d ago | Intelligent
"One basic example we were given suggested that without optimisation for either console, a platform-agnostic development build can run at around 30FPS in 1920×1080 on PS4, but it’ll run at “20-something” FPS in 1600×900 on Xbox One. “Xbox One is weaker and it’s a pain to use its ESRAM,” concluded one developer."

Seems like EDGE was spot on.
DJ  +   340d ago
EDGE was ridiculously spot-on. In fact, now I'm certain EDGE was referring to Ryse: Son of Rome.
Volkama  +   340d ago
Yes I'm equally certain that this "anonymous dev" was in fact Crytek, and the unoptimised code they were talking about was actually the near-final build of Ryse. And they built it for PS4 as well, just for the sake of making a comparison they could leak to Edge. Definitely (!)
Ju  +   340d ago
Crytek will release on PS4 - it just won't be Ryse. Could be any other Crytek game they "port" or develop new (even a test build for Crysis).
robotgargoyle  +   339d ago
As we all know- PS4 is more powerful and easier to develop for, but I'm sure XB1 games (Multiplats in general) will be up to snuff (720/1080p-30/60fps).

Don't understand why MS made their system harder to develop for?

After playing GTA 5 on my old, white, fat 360, I wonder how a game of that magnitude can run on a machine with only 512mb of ram, but it does. Yeah there is some pop-in, but it still looks and plays great!

I have faith in MS, even after all the PR blunders. It will come down to the developers learning the hardware and MS suppying the tools necessary to help tap it's potential.

I'm more worried about Valve's Steambox materializing and Left 4 Dead 3 being an exclusive for it.
DevilishSix  +   339d ago
GTA5 may look and play great to you but clearly the graphics are dated. I am anxious to see the PC and next gen builds, which should show a big difference, unless Rockstar plans on gimping them for parity reasons.
u-bEttA-rUn  +   340d ago
Smh my popcorn is done right on time
( kicks feet up)
Tooly  +   340d ago
pass that i got the butter
Ron_Danger  +   340d ago
Tooly... It's a trap!! I saw him cut a hole in the bottom!!
PirateKing  +   340d ago
1600 x 900 resolutions huh. No wonder Xbone games are clocking in at 60fps so easily. Up-conversion, oh boy MS just keeps putting out its greatest hits.
staticdash22  +   340d ago
Man, killzone shadow fall is running 1080p native and 60 fps in the mutliplayer. Driveclub is 1080p native and they're targeting 60fps. Even Knack is 1080p native.....
DJ  +   340d ago
PS4 has faster RAM, faster GPU, no ESRAM to complicate things. I think Mark Cerny deserves a fat bonus.
Kryptix  +   339d ago
I been telling people on N4G since E3, the GDDR5 RAM benefits from large data transfers. So games with very high textures and large maps will do just fine using the PS4's RAM. Killzone: Shadowfall is showing that by running on 1080p native, up to 60 FPS. I wonder how hard it is to run Battlefield 4 on the Xbox One even with just a 720p resolution. I mean, DICE hasn't shown any BF4 gameplay running on an actual Xbox One console. Even Call of Duty: Ghosts, the weakest looking game for next gen didn't run on an Xbox One at the gameplay reveal and after that.

The PS4 will end up being the true next gen console. I predict a lot of 3rd party comparisons showing that and giving Microsoft a backlash for lying to their consumers.
beebap  +   340d ago
Do ya ever think microsoft employees are told the bs too and hype themselves up from within so they think they are the best so they come across as arrogant especially when they tell someone something like this only to be told later that it not true. I kinda feel sorry for some of them they too naive to believe the hype.
DJ  +   340d ago
So PS4 does 1920x1080 at 30FPS.

Xbox One does 1600x900 at 20FPS.

Everyone thank Major Nelson and Edge for clarifying the flame wars.
JunkieJedi  +   340d ago
The Power of the Clown!
Man-E-Faces  +   340d ago
Doesn't the 360 already upscale games to 1080p? Why in the hell would you waste time/money making a new console that can't run a majority of next gen games in native 1080p? I would think when brainstorming the guts this would be a main priority.
Sevir  +   339d ago
I think they went with a weaker GPU, because Kinect 2.0 was already a huge expensive investment.
T2  +   339d ago
Problem - people just expected MS to dump huge wheelbarrows full of money on tech, selling their system at a loss for years so they could have TV, voice recognition, kinect stuff, best tech, bluray, etc...
Fact - MS is in business to pad their pockets, they spent a bunch of money on kinect stuff, TV, and you are left with a medium quality tech console...
Exactly why I am unimpressed so far. I want a simple, powerful gaming machine that is easy and convenient (not going back to PC so don't even bother)... so far that is leaning heavily in the direction of the PS4...
you can see where each camp spent their money and now its up to you , the consumer, to choose where you want to spend yours.
beebap  +   340d ago
I was getting so sick of power argument too when common sense told ya it was ps4 devs talking bout their experiences all microsoft talk is bs seriously im kinda sick of how much it just annoys me if I worked there i would check my facts before publicitly telling something. Kinda makes ya laugh again at another pr blunter
ShwankyShpanky  +   340d ago
"Let the games do the talking."
tuglu_pati  +   340d ago
when you put it that way. It make MS reps look so stupid XD.
True_Samurai  +   340d ago
Still haven't seen anything closer to realism than Ryse :-/ on next gen consoles. And please don't try to use the ps4 tech demo as an example
beebap  +   340d ago
You talking about deep down it aint no tech demo it shows realism and as considering it a multiplayer game the graphics are def next gen.
FamilyGuy  +   340d ago
LOL, Deep Down doesn't count? Even though it's been shown running at Sonys Pre-TGS conference and will be playable at TGS on day 1 (the 19th of this month, aka 2 days from now)?

Yet it doesn't count...

Ryse looks like crap, it has some of the worse looking character eyes I've ever seen. The extremely exaggerated facial animations make Marius look like a goblin. All the enemies are clones of each other. All videos shown have had glitches all over the place and dropping frame rates. The battle system is clunky and way too easy, plus enemies just stand by in a circle watching you fight their allies instead of jumping in to help.

It's one of the worse games I have ever seen yet people keep praising it for some reason.

X1 needs a new mascot
I'd prefer it be any of the following:
Forza, Project Spark, Titanfall, Fable, Killer Instinct or even that indie game Below. People should just stop routing for Ryse, it looks terrible and it's going to be terrible.
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pyramidshead  +   340d ago
the argument isn't about how good it looks. It's what people who fanatically favour the xbox one have been boasting that's being ridiculed I believe. Especially after the epic bashings PS4 titles have been getting from the likely lot because of their native resolutions and combined frame rates

Also your comment is 100% subjective too. :).
SKullDugger  +   339d ago
Like the tech demo they ran at E3 for the PS3.. The Ps3 will run games at 1080p and up to 120fps.. I know its a different console and far more power but the claims both these companies make are not always true!!
sassmannico   340d ago | Spam
5h4h4b  +   340d ago | Funny
Aaron greenberg : "Xbox One upscales all titles to 1080p"

Albert Penello : " don't know him"
Ame_No_Shiryuu  +   340d ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...!!!! XD
Volkama  +   340d ago
Bubble up for funnies
Jihaad_cpt  +   340d ago
you made my day.
GribbleGrunger  +   340d ago
Stolen for Gaf. I did reference you by the way. :)

I still think Ryse will be a decent 1st gen game though.
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Sevir  +   339d ago
ROFLMMAO!!!!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Lord this comment sings as best in class!! Thank you this made my day!!
solidjun5  +   339d ago
LMFAO!!!! Bubbles man. Bubbles.
Gamingsince75   336d ago | Spam
solidjun5  +   336d ago
Aww you're following me. Cute kid. Cute. I'm sure virtual boy will be a big hit.
solidboss07  +   340d ago
Fucking class job, Microsoft ha ha. Beyond the launch window 1080p@60fps will be what most games run at on PS4!
'There is no way we are giving a 30percent power advantage to PlayStation 4'. Yes, we know, its more like 40+, ha has.
starchild  +   340d ago
PS4 is most definitely more powerful than the XB1 and I have been saying it since we got decent confirmation of the specs, but if you think every game on PS4 is going to be 1080p and 60fps, you're going to be sorely disappointed.
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SKullDugger  +   339d ago
If your claim for 1080p and 60fps is true because of the power of the PS4 then why is BF4 running @ 720p and 60fps for both the X1 and PS4?
SKullDugger  +   339d ago
Says who? Go back and read the statements SONY made at E3 for the PS3, not so many of these claims were true... Lets wait and see what happens. I can tell you I have a 700hp Ford pinto but until you see and drive it that does not make it true!!
SKullDugger  +   339d ago
@ solidboss07 and which games are you developing for the PS4 that are running @ 1080p and 60fps? Can I borrow your crystal ball I gotta do some lotto numbers. Do you remember SONY's E3 for the PS3 they said the PS3 would run games @1080p and 120fps!! don't remember ever seeing that on the PS3 do you?
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No_Limit  +   340d ago
It is a little disappointed that this game is only 900p but it is still a high resolution. If you look at the scene shown at E3 with the bunch of AIs on screen, I think some sacrifice needs to be made in order to it to display it at a good enough resolution. I am taking a wait and see approach on this game. Waiting for reviews before deciding.
ziggurcat  +   340d ago
i see that the old "ambitious game" defence is rearing its ugly head again...

time to face facts: xbone isn't nearly as powerful as you may think it is, and that 15 co-processor/5tflops/3 GPUS/DDR3 RAM that acts like DDR4 PC RAM/xbone is 2 - 3 times more powerful than PS4/wait until the NDA secret sauce nonsense is proving itself to be wishful thinking.
MRMagoo123  +   340d ago
exactly my thoughts lol , seems the console thats supposed to be more powerful than the ps4 is showing that its a lot less powerful than the ps4, i wonder where elite24gamer is to say this is fake and stuff lol.

Xbone is gonna be getting its arse kicked full stop.
GiantEnemyCrab  +   339d ago
So everything coming out on the PS4 is native 1080p? Speaking of crow eating I will remember that. Since you seem to believe it has the most powerful hardware and that directly relates to pixel output then it should all be 1080p.
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RiPPn  +   340d ago
A humble No_Limit, that crow is just about ready for eating, should be ready about mid to late November.
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