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Submitted by KingWilly105 399d ago | news

Angry readers want Gamespot reviewer fired after her GTA V review

Readers launch petition to fire Carolyn Petit after she mentioned misogyny on her review for GTA V. (Grand Theft Auto V, Industry, PS3, Xbox 360)

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ZBlacktt   399d ago | Off topic | show | Replies(10)
Marlec  +   399d ago | Well said
How pathetic can you get. Her review is just her opinion too which she has a right too.
LOGICWINS  +   399d ago | Intelligent
But in a professional review, an opinion has to be relevant to the game in question. Its like a reviewer docking a point from GTAV because he or she feels its too violent.

Or docking points from a racing game for not having a story.

It doesn't make sense.
maximus1985  +   399d ago | Intelligent
Logic wins indeed
NegativeCreep427  +   399d ago
You're right.

How would I look if I worked over at Gamespot or IGN and I gave all the Yakuza games a 1/10 because I didn't like Japanese people because they bombed us at Pearl Harbor.

"They bombed our harbor, so I don't like this game. One out of Ten. Don't buy it"

Ad Hominem should not be considered when reviewing a good or a product.

Edit: Regardless of anyone's personal opinions of the Yakuza games and their actual quality as games, my theoretical argument still stands.
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PurpHerbison  +   399d ago
To be fair... Yakuza is a repetitive boring game that deserves a 1/10.
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jmc8888  +   399d ago | Well said
Except she didn't dock any points for it.

Critical thinking is a must. She made a comment that didn't alter the score, but everyone is assuming that must be the ONLY reason it isn't a 10.

Why does GTAV even need to be a 10? A 5 would still be worth playing, and we all knew it wasn't going to even get that.

If these console versions are a 10, what is the PS4/PC/Xbox One version supposed to get?
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Kurylo3d  +   399d ago | Well said
just cause she mentions the game is sexist... isnt a reason to be mad at her. Shes not lieing lol. But we dont care. We like half naked women and stupidity. Kinda part of the reason to buy the game... so why get so insulted cause she speaks the truth. Does it blow your mind that she might be right. And since she is right, the better question is does her opinion matter? lol And in fact the best question is who has so much time on their hands that they want to take away someone elses way of paying their bills because their feelings were hurt over a product tehy had nothing to do with in the making.
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LOGICWINS  +   399d ago
^^I'm not mad at her, I just think shes stupid lol. Everyone whose played GTA3 has known that the GTA franchise has been misogynistic to women ever since we first killed a prostitute and got our money back. Thats what GTA is about....giving players a safe avenue to realize their most vile and deviant inner desires.

GTAV shouldn't be criticized for whats its SUPPOSED to be. Its brash, violent, and unforgiving.
Marlec  +   399d ago | Well said
I dont think she docked any points for in her opinion about the portrayal of women in the game, just she would have preferred to see it differently but still its her opinion she has a right to air it & we have the right to ignore it. To go make a petition to get her sacked over it is utter nonsense.
darkride66  +   399d ago | Intelligent
So, what? We're supposed to call for the heads of anyone who mentions "misogyny" in relation to GTA5? Because, I hate to break it to everyone..but that word is cropping up a fair bit in reviews I've read for GTA5. And as reviews are opinions, if the level of misogyny in the game was something that turned a reviewer off, I think it's their duty as a reviewer to explain this and review accordingly. That's what reviews are for.

Jim Sterling didn't give a perfect score for the game either because he found the main characters somewhat unlikable. That's his opinion. I don't agree with every review I read so what I do is find a reviewer who's opinions generally line up with my own and then those of the reviewers I tend to lend weight to when deciding which game to buy. It's not rocket science.

If someone reviews a racing game and bashes it for not having a story, guess what...chances are I'm not going to put much stock in their reviewers. It doesn't make their opinion somehow invalid. Opinions are opinions. You agree with them or you don't.

If she found the sexism a problem in the game, I'm glad she mentioned it because that's what game reviewers are about, the reviewers opinion. If the level of sexism bothered a reviewer of a movie I'd expect them to mention it too. She seemed more bothered by the character inconsistency, but all in all she seemed to really like the game. I don't understand what the big deal is here.

It's days like this where the level of stupidity on display by so called "gamers" just leaves me shaking my head, just like the Diablo 3 petitions, just like the Mass Effect 3 nonsense. Just play the goddamned game.
abzdine  +   399d ago
stupid readers.. that's all i have to say!
GTA has and will always be overrated! just cause it's called GTA..
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Dee_91  +   399d ago
i.... i actually agree with logic... i'm going to go lay down now..
But trying to get him fired is a bit too much..
Gster  +   399d ago
Is it just me, or does anyone else find it a bit of a coincidence that they gave probably the two best games of this generation a below par 8/10 (TLOU included). Just makes me wonder, because I think they are both the lowest scores we are gonna see on any website for these two gems!
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SilentNegotiator  +   399d ago
"But it didn't affect the score!"

How do you know? Any feeling that the reviewer has could end up affecting the score. Especially when it irritates them enough to mention it.

Something tells me the issue of misogyny is a rather new issue in this...lady's life, and that's why they are obsessing over it a bit much.
....basically, "go figure"
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Chris_GTR1  +   399d ago
dude is it just me or is the gamespot reviewer actually a man dressed as a woman? a trensgender i guess? that voice sounded like a mans voice and holy shit by looking at that picture thats defenetly a guy dressed as a woman.

seriously? what woman has a face like that
http://systemwarsmonthly.fi...
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Gster  +   399d ago
Sorry GS, my mistake. I thought it was because of a lower than expected score. Just realised its a 9! ooops That's what I get for jumping into the comment section without reading the article first. But I can't see what the fuss is about. So what if she expressed her own opinion and it didn't stand well with some of the gaming community. Have her fired... pppff! give us a break
GrizzliS1987  +   399d ago
When did a review become an opinion is all i'm saying :/

There should be a strategic scale based on Do's and Dont's for each genre, with each topic scaled from 1 to 10, from graphics, to performance, to quality and quantity, not directly compared to ANY previous games, but just to its own identity.

I am surprised there is not a single reviewer out there who follows the same system for ANY game, based on the same criteria that makes up his complete strategy for reviewing.

There should be someone like this, more simply, a go to reviewer that throws all opinion out the window and bases the game on what it is.

This can be a potential cash cow :/
Gigaguy777  +   399d ago
Polygon.
If it's okay for them to do it, she can do it.
mrbojingles  +   399d ago
Of course it makes sense to dock points for sexism and bad treatment of a race/ethnicity in a game. Because gamers detest feminists so much the community acts like they're in the right here. But if the game treated another social group poorly it would be a different story. If you can take off points for films/books/music for hurting a social group then games are no exception
starchild  +   399d ago
I hate when reviewers try to use their review as a platform for their political views.

These kinds of things are extremely personal. We generally avoid talking about religion and politics with people we don't know well and when you put those views into a game review it feels kind of like you are trying to shove your views down the readers' throats.
Blacklash93  +   399d ago
It doesn't make sense. But it's nothing we haven't seen before (W101 got a few mentioning this) and nobody gave a peep.

It's not a big deal. People have the right to be idiots. Reviews are no stranger to this kind of thing and there's no reason to get self-righteous over it.
brave27heart  +   399d ago
"GTAV shouldn't be criticized for whats its SUPPOSED to be. Its brash, violent, and unforgiving."

How about we criticize it because its supposed to be these things? Isnt it about time we stopped accepting sexism in games for the sake of being brash? There are plenty of games out there that dont need to be excessive, overly violent and insensitive to be amazing games. Why do we accept it in some titles simply because its always been that way?
LOGICWINS  +   399d ago
^^Simple. We accept it because we like it, hence why the GTA franchise breaks records everytime it comes out. If you dont like it, then dont buy it.
SonyWarrior  +   399d ago
after seeing this i will not be visiting gamespot till she is fired. Her avatar is a picture of her self and it explains alot... LOL ugly nasty looking "girl".
Spoons  +   399d ago
Sorry, but how can you possibly review a complete game without any opinion at all?
snipes101  +   399d ago
The treatment of characters IS part of the game. Anyone suggesting otherwise is lying to themselves. For this game to pretty much treat women as objects, that WILL turn people off. To the people that would turn off, this review would speak to them. The game is said to be 35 hours long just in story, if someone would be bothered by sexism, then they would want to know that it's in there.

If reviewers listened to half of you, there would be literally no reason for more than 1 game site to review a game, because they would all say almost the exact same thing. Reviews shouldn't, and never will be, objective. To review it subjectively would make reviews nearly pointless.
darkpower  +   399d ago
Does she deserve death threats? Nope!

Do people have the right to question the opinion, though? Yep!

Just because someone doesn't have the opinion you want someone you have, you shouldn't ask for someone to die or anything like that. But being sympathetic about someone getting such threats doesn't necessarily make the opinion that got such comments agreeable!
cgoodno  +   399d ago
She brought up lots of issues with the game and one item of opinion on how women are portrayed. Absolutely nowhere did they say that her opinion of the women is what caused the loss of a point, especially considering the many issues she brought up.

So, you can't honestly say she docked points because of this. There is no proof of it, only speculation.
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wishingW3L  +   399d ago
Example of a completely objective review: http://www.destructoid.com/...

Yes, they are pointless.
UnwanteDreamz  +   399d ago
I think her opinion is stupid and about as useful as an elevator in an outhouse.

I also believe she has a right to express her opinion.
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Bimkoblerutso  +   399d ago
There is a backlash over this for the simple fact that people have, over time, been conditioned to look at reviews as a form of "cheerleading," when in reality, they exist solely to present perspective.

A woman playing a game that contains violence towards women may very well be more sensitive to that sort of thing than a man. While we, as men, don't necessarily have to agree with or relate to that sentiment, it still presents us with a perspective that we would otherwise never have considered.

If you want completely objective articles and media, you need to look to previews, screenshots and videos wherein there is no subjective input, but in a perfect world, people should be able to read and consider dissenting opinion without going into fits of nerd rage in the first place.
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Gaming101  +   399d ago
The problem is, she's inserting her feminazi view of a game targeted towards a largely male audience. It's like someone giving Battlefield 4 or Call of Duty Ghosts a bad review complaining that it's racist towards middle eastern people, because you happen to be fighting people in the middle east. It's politically correct bullshit, and these people need to stop waving their PC wands around, forcing their opinions on everyone else. It doesn't belong in an objective review where discussions about gameplay, graphics, mechanics etc should take first priority over whether a particular reviewer's personal taste matches up with the taste of the creators.

This is art, and art is not meant to be inoffensive. Art is not supposed to be safe, and PC, protecting any and all sensitivities of any personal group who might get offended. Sometimes art is meant to be offensive, and make you think about things. Sometimes the characters in art are meant to be racists, or misogynists, they are imperfect as we are all imperfect. This is what makes GTA so compelling, the characters are all imperfect going through their own struggles like we all are, they're not perfect superheroes with a moral compass that's higher than the rest of us.

This is art, don't shit on it because you don't like some of the characters or their decisions.
xXxSeTTriPxXx  +   399d ago
dont understand why gamers gave these (so called) professional reviewers the scapegoat opinion card.

When you put PROFESSIONAL in front of something we expect just that.

Everyone's "opinion" is bias in some form, professionals don't have that luxury.

Do your job or find a new one.
brave27heart  +   399d ago
You cant keep opinion out of a review. Its impossible.

"The characters are interesting..." - Opinion

"The variety lf things to do in Los Santos is staggering" - Opinion

"The gameplay mechanics are much improved" - Opinion

The whole point of a review is its someone perspective on a game and you read it to get an idea of what the game may be like. From what I can see she had her complaints but overall rated it 9/10, which you can hardly say is docking points for her femminist viewpoint is it? Are all the other sites giving it 9/10 docking points too?

People knocking her opinion forget that she has a right to that opinion and a right to express it. You have a right not to agree with it. You do not have a right to call for her to be sacked because you dont agree with it.

Im ashamed to be a gamer today.
Ritsujun  +   399d ago
Aww, poor PurpHerbison.
kariyanine  +   398d ago
@GrizzliS1987 you do realize that even if someone were to follow your rigid set of guidelines for a review, it would still be based on opinion right?
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IVanSpinal  +   399d ago
this game is overrated
im playin like 10 hours and im tired
dee23  +   399d ago
10 hours? The game must be pretty good if it was able to hold your attention for that long. If you said you only played for 2 or 3 hours you might have had a good argument for the game being overrated instead you're reinforcing how hard the game is to put down.

Personally I don't know how anyone can call the game overrated considering it's the most expensive and ambitious game to date. Credit where credit is due, Rockstar have pulled off a game that will not only set standards for this gen but also set standards for the next.

Gamespot can be petty with their reviews, just look at their review for TLOU. I don't think the reviewer should have taken a point of GTA5 for the reasons given since GTA4 could be guilty of the same criticisms made by the reviewer and that game had a 10/10 score the last I checked and was game of the year in 2008.
admiralvic  +   399d ago
@ Dee23

"10 hours? The game must be pretty good if it was able to hold your attention for that long. If you said you only played for 2 or 3 hours you might have had a good argument for the game being overrated instead you're reinforcing how hard the game is to put down. "

Not exactly. IVanSpinal never said 10 hours in 1 sitting and might just be someone who has a review copy that has to play more than 20 minutes to do said review accurately.

"Personally I don't know how anyone can call the game overrated considering it's the most expensive and ambitious game to date. Credit where credit is due, Rockstar have pulled off a game that will not only set standards for this gen but also set standards for the next. "

GTA IV has a 98/100 on Metacritic, yet it isn't uncommon to see people saying it wasn't that good on N4G / forums. Believe it or not, there is a point where ANYTHING no matter how good, can become overrated by people constantly enforcing the idea that it's the best thing in the known universe to you.

See 50 outlets give it a perfect score and your expectations are high. Have everyone you know tell you it's the best game ever and your expectations are even higher. To put it another way, go read all the praise for Breaking Bad and then rewatch the first episode blocking out all the information you know (if any) of the series after that point. Most likely you won't think it's the greatest thing in the history of man kind and even after a few episodes you might not be hooked because the bar is set so high.

The opposite is also true, but I won't get into that.

"Gamespot can be petty with their reviews, just look at their review for TLOU. I don't think the reviewer should have taken a point of GTA5 for the reasons given since GTA4 could be guilty of the same criticisms made by the reviewer and that game had a 10/10 score the last I checked and was game of the year in 2008."

Others have pointed out that a point was NOT deducted for this reason, so that doesn't seem to be the case.
brave27heart  +   399d ago
Some gamers are pathetic. Unfortunately its the vocal ones.
Bobby Kotex  +   399d ago
I have mixed feelings. That reviewer should not have brought her political beliefs into a review, but the people trying to get her fired are beyond pathetic.
snipes101  +   399d ago
How is she in the wrong? The game came in conflicts with her beliefs, and journalistic integrity dictates that you need to mention that when you review something. A review is all opinion, and something like this falls under that umbrella. By their very nature, reviews are meant to be disagreed with. If you don't like her style, go the fuck to another one of the million gaming websites out there.
UnwanteDreamz   399d ago | Bad language | show
ziggurcat  +   399d ago
@ snipes101:

actually, journalistic integrity (in part) dictates that you remain objective, regardless of your political leanings.

this is also GTA, which isn't exactly known for being particularly PC, so slamming the game for not aligning with her political viewpoint brings it into the realm of an unnecessary political rant, and not an objective review because then it's no longer about the gameplay or the story (which is what the review *should* be about, not whether she disliked seeing scantily clad women, sexual content, etc...).
GuyThatMakesSense  +   399d ago
@unwanted & @ziggurcat

I don't think those apply in a REVIEW. Journalism, being a medium for all sorts of news, should be objective, I agree. But this is not conveying news, this is conveying a REVIEW.
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Dante81  +   399d ago
She keeps pulling this schtick over any game that has sexual content
NBT91  +   399d ago
What's funny is when it got a 3/5 from some site earlier, people were like "troll site, fishing for hits, ignore it."

This review scores it a nine and the reviewer gets tons of hate for being transgender and apparently deserves to lose her job because she said something a few people don't agree with.

She got a lot of hateful comments in the LA Noire review for the same thing, being transgender.
I think RockStar games just attract the immature gamer stereotypes to come out of their Call of Duty pajamas and this is what happens when those minority get together... Stupid things.
ziggurcat  +   399d ago
what's funny is that the reviewer let her political beliefs cloud her judgment in her review of the game, and it's apparently not the first time.

a review should be about the merits of the gameplay, and the story. a review should not be about whether she disliked the sexual content. if she can't handle that, then she either shouldn't review games like GTA (or any R* game, for that matter) or she should learn to be objective in her assessment of the game.
xXxSeTTriPxXx  +   399d ago
Because its not about the score, but the contents of the written review.
kparks  +   399d ago
This is ridiculous she still gave it a solid 9 out of 10 if u get that butthurt over 1 point and someone's opinion u have serious problems. I feel sorry that she has to deal with the minority of gamers that are complete scumbags..
Sideras  +   399d ago
It*
vishmarx  +   399d ago
they let a female review gta v?wtf?
she then cuts marks for misogyny....
wht idiot would believe its fair jdgement
dragon82  +   399d ago
How did she cut marks for misogyny if it got a 9/10 score?? So this game is only allowed to get 10/10 scores??

You people need to get a life!!
brew  +   398d ago
Women and White Knights will be playing GTA V too.
LordDhampire  +   399d ago
No, she is being the ultimate sexist women who think things are sexist just because they are women...
raWfodog  +   398d ago
And the irony is that 'she' is genetically a he. Go figure :)
LordDhampire  +   395d ago
o man, I didn't even see the picture of HeShe

jesus
dark-hollow  +   399d ago
And people wonder why there aren't a lot of core female gamers.

The gaming community is very toxic.
UnwanteDreamz  +   399d ago
Thats true but should GTA change or should people who don't like the themes play something else?
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Evil_Ryu  +   399d ago
She should not be reviewing a game like GTA if she can't stomach what goes on in real world. She must live a sheltered life.
Mutant-Spud  +   399d ago
Misogyny is the wrong word in this context, technically so is sexism, I've never seen or played a game that incited hatred of women or even denigrated them.
GTA games are a satire of contemporary American pop culture, apparently GTAV nails it perfectly, it's pop culture in general which portrays women in this light.
Heck I don't even like GTA games but I'm moved to defend them on this point because let's face it, slutty women, gold diggers, prostitutes, porno actresses and strippers exist in the real world, there's no reason why they should be spared when it comes to satire.
To the people who pointed out that Carolyn Pettit is a transgender person this is well known, she used appear as Chris Pettit then decided she was more comfortable as Carolyn, this barely cause a ripple in the gaming community. Secondly you don't have to be a woman to be Feminist, plenty of men are Feminazis too. There's a lot wrong with Feminism and this critique painting GTAV as "misogynistic" is not valid, Feminism itself is not a valid complaint when you really analyse it.
Chucky2003  +   399d ago
A review for a game doesn't need to have a personal opinion,she's just a frustrated woman who looks like a man,look at the IGN review,its also done by a woman and actually she sees what GTA is
Gekko36  +   399d ago
@All

Wow internet gremlins really need better porn. They have no right to insist on anything. They are after all creatures of the lowest order aren't they, a bit like those funky crow charaters in Dark Crystal.
ovnipc  +   399d ago
She should not get fired. The person who assing her to review gta 5 should, when has a gta game had any respect for woman? Dont make a woman review this type of games!
TBONEJF  +   398d ago
Another reason why i don't go to blog reviewers. they are all BIAS journalist that doesn't even know the game. How can you pay someone to talk bad a game that one of us like so much. what ever she say bout GTA V should of kept it herself. That's why i dont believe this 10/10 rating think it's dumb just buy the game you love and enjoy it.
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HeyImBen11  +   399d ago
Wow, and here we go.
Beastforlifenoob  +   399d ago
So she complains because some how this game is "sexist" i put an emphasis on the word GAME because it means that it is not real and doesn't represent the views of the developers or publishers. But she totally forgets this game has violence, drugs, coarse language etc.

WHO THE HELL CARES if it's sexist is A DAMMED game, GAME MEANS FOR FUN!!!

GO GTA V DON"T LIMIT THE GAME FOR POLITICAL CORRECTNESS SO A WITTLE, WITTLE WIRLY IS NOT UPSET!!!
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UnwanteDreamz  +   399d ago
LMFAO^^
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JakemanPS31994  +   399d ago
Complaining about the comments can be just as bad as the comments them selves!
OrangePowerz  +   399d ago
It's not like the review is an abomination like the one from the Escapist for GTA5 because he didn't like that the characters are bad guys or the Polygon review about The Last of Us
morganfell  +   399d ago
No it may not be as bad but disliking characters is one thing, parading around attempting to shove political correctness on people is another matter.
darkride66  +   399d ago
Reading the review, I didn't for a second feel that she was shoving her attitudes of political correctness on us though. She commented on it, as many other reviewers have, and she thought it was a bit much and didn't serve the story or satirical nature of the game. IGN mentioned something similar, but they felt it was serving the game's satirical nature. I don't think she went about it in a manner that was "in your face" at all.

As I mentioned before, if a movie used sexism to the point that it the reviewer deemed it over the top and did nothing to serve the story or themes of the movie, I would expect them to mention that because that's what I want when I read a review...the honest opinion of the reviewer.

What I find interesting about all this is the problem seems to be this opinion is coming from a woman. I don't see anyone having a problem with the other reviewers who caution the game is a bit over the top with it's misogyny, and there are a number of reviews out there that mention this. I think if the reviewer believes that an element of the game is overdone to the point that it's a needless distraction, they owe it to their readers to mention it. Doesn't matter if it's over the top sexism or heavy reliance of QTE's. If it has an impact on how much they enjoyed the game, it should be mentioned.

In the end, she seemed no more concerned about this than she was with the inconsistency of the characters at time and still highly recommended the title.
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OrangePowerz  +   399d ago
Well it was one little comment of what feeling she got and it didn't appear to have any influence on the score that's not parading around.
UnwanteDreamz  +   399d ago
@Darkride

Just because you didn't feel put off by her opinion does not mean others shouldn't. It goes both ways.
KonsoruMasuta  +   399d ago
Oh boy! It's been a while since I got to join a angry mob.

*Grabs pitchfork and torch*

Burn ye witch at the stake!!!
metalgod88  +   399d ago
This is pretty dumb dude. Does someone's opinion really effect another person so much that they want the writer fired? We have rights to opinions, not to mention the writer played this game...a lot and has saw and heard who knows what.

It's her right to an opinion and that's that.
moparful99  +   399d ago
Honestly I think the reaction that her opinion is generating comes from the fact that people who enjoy and play these games feel like they are being labeled as misogynists because they enjoy the game.. Thats where opinions become dangerous..
metalgod88  +   398d ago
Moparful99, I really think you're right about that. It just seems like when a writer has something negative to say or something such as this about a game people are really looking forward to, they can't help but feel like they've been attacked in some way.

Of course, some people take criticism better than others.
Salooh  +   399d ago
This is how reviews should work . 9 out of 10 is about facts , 1 out of 10 is the opinion.

That way , people know the truth and respect the reviewer opinion ^^ . I don't like when reviewers hate something most people love. I also hate when people overreact to opinion. So that's the perfect review method. :P
SeraphimBlade  +   399d ago
I'm sure they all have REALLY informed opinions on the quality of the game that comes out tomorrow.
Brucis  +   399d ago
It seems to be more about him/her calling the game misogynistic than the score, which was actually good.
Megaton  +   399d ago
Meh. She obviously has an agenda and doesn't have any interest in objectively reviewing the game, but I don't think she's worth a petition to be fired. Just stop visiting GameSpot if it bothers you that much. Why would you be there in the first place?
dragon82  +   399d ago
She scored it 9/10 but is somehow not objective because she has her own opinion of the game? So... 10/10 is the only "objective" score the game can receive if you express your own opinion in the review. Got it.

SMH...
Megaton  +   399d ago
Good point. I guess I don't really think about the final number that much. I just saw a knock against the game in the form of a silly personal agenda. She could have dropped it several points like that person at Polygon who reviewed Dragon's Crown with a similar agenda.
Mrgolden79  +   399d ago
This has nothing to do with the score. It has everything to do with inserting your own political views and a lack of professionalism and integrity.
SaffronCurse   399d ago | Off topic | show
-GametimeUK-  +   399d ago
Screw that. It's not scored criminally low and a majority of us haven't even played it to voice an opinion against her. I wouldn't say anything negative about someone scoring TLOU 9/10 or even if they scored it 9.8 etc. Generally speaking, an amazing games score doesn't matter too much as long as it is above a 9. The .2's or the .5s are not really as important because we all know (generally speaking) it's a big free for all as far as quality games are concerned as to which ones are the best. A game scores a 9.2 and another gets 9.6. In this day and age we can realistically expect that the 9.2 game has a shot at being better anyway. 9 out of 10 is not a low score. It's up there.

(I'm not saying an 8/10 game can't be seen as better than a 9.3 game either... I'm just talking generally as far as these big games are concerned).
Goldenarmz   399d ago | Off topic | show | Replies(1)
NatureOfLogic  +   399d ago
Grow the fug up. Not everyone is going to like the game. If gamers didn't take reviews too seriously, there would be more honest reviews out there. Maybe the reviewer is trolling or maybe they just don't like the game. Reviews are becoming way too important for some. I doubt the game is perfect, It shouldn't be getting all of these high reviews with all the issues on the 360 alone. Hype train has allowed some to become blind to this game flaws.
KonsoruMasuta  +   399d ago
People aren't complaining because he (Yes, I said he because no matter how much he wants to be a woman, he will never be one.) deducted a points because of his BS views.

He deducted a point because he thought the game was misogynistic.
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NatureOfLogic  +   399d ago
What's point of a review if the reviewer doesn't factor their own opinion into the review? What I'm starting to notice is, more and more games are being reviewed based on the level of hype that the game is receiving. I feel like points should be deducted for technical flaws just like every other game regardless of hype.
wishingW3L  +   399d ago
"deducted a point because he thought the game was misogynistic."

And what's the problem with that again? Roger Ebert gave Kick Ass a 1/4 because it was too violent but that was his opinion. 0_O
dragon82  +   399d ago
Or maybe the game isn't a 10/10 game. It does happen. You kids would have hated reading reviews in the late 80s and 90s. Honesty is clearly not your thing.
Pozzle  +   399d ago
But if someone IS offended by certain content in a game, then why shouldn't they mention it in their review? If there is a possibility that other people might be offended, wouldn't it be worth letting them know that the game might not be for them.
If you were offended by the rape of an underage girl in RapeLay, then of course you're going to mention it in a review. That would be something that readers might want to know about. I know that's a pretty extreme example, but the point still stands.

Hell, Destructioud's own Jim Sterling was offended by one of the ending levels of Duke Nukem Forever because he interpreted it as a rape analogy, but nobody really batted an eyelid at that. Nobody cried for his blood, or demanded he get fired. Why is GTA any different? Is it because the series is more popualr than Duke Nukem? Is it because the reviewer at Gamespot is transgender? I don't get it. The game still got a 9/10. So what exactly is the problem? :/
UsernameOfTheDead   399d ago | Trolling | show | Replies(3)
Sketchy_Galore  +   399d ago
Of course the reaction here and elsewhere is depressingly stupid and overdramatic but I did think her complaints sounded a little silly given the context of the game and maybe somebody likely to have politically motivated reasons for complaining about such things might not have been the best choice to review this particular game.
buynit   399d ago | Bad language | show
aiBreeze  +   399d ago
Honestly, I think asking for her/him to be fired is a bit OTT but seriously, questions have to be asked why that person was chosen to review the game, it's like getting a fifa player to review madden.
GTAallday   399d ago | Immature | show
PSnation4  +   399d ago
the reviewer is a transgender(like it matters anyways) .. but a 9/10 @_@ and these idiots want the reviewer fired.. crazy!
BigShotSmoov007   399d ago | Immature | show | Replies(1)
MakiManPR  +   399d ago
WTF GUYS!! 9/10 is a good score. The games is NOOT perfect
Slysi  +   399d ago
Omg seriously, grow up
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brianace  +   399d ago
Complaining that someone has an opinion different than yours = no life
Getting up in arms because someone says something negative about GTA 5 = no life
Starting an internet petition about ANYTHING = no life
No wonder gamers have such a bad reputation in regards to maturity. Like a bunch of children, the loud ones, anyway.
aiBreeze  +   399d ago
You know what's just as sad as people with "no life"? People going around accusing others of having no life just because they do something a bit crazy. You talk about people being like a bunch of children yet scream no life at them? You're no different imho.
PurpHerbison  +   399d ago
Let us all continue to argue over something that is COMPLETELY SUBJECTIVE.
LOGICWINS  +   399d ago
"I've hated Los Angeles ever since I've been mugged there 8 years ago. I give GTAV a 6/10 because Los Santos reminds me too much of that horrific experience! Everything else about the game is cool though."

Do you see the problem with being COMPLETELY SUBJECTIVE in a game review?
PurpHerbison  +   399d ago
Let us CONTINUE to argue and this time, I won't use "COMPLETELY SUBJECTIVE"... I'll use... Okay, I got it. How about this... It doesn't matter cause at the end of the day this is just ONE review out of a SEA of reviews, and in the grand scheme of things... It's just a game review.
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Ninjews  +   399d ago
Petitioning to have her fired is a bit ridiculous, but this does deal with the bigger issue of game journalism. If you read her review in the opening paragraph "she" mentions misogyny. which makes it seems like she is bringing personal baggage to the review. I had a 49 year old woman read it, and she came to the same conclusion for a "stupid video game." a review is not suppose to an opinion, it is suppose to be a critique, with no baggage.
iRocket  +   399d ago
Holy shit! Are people actually angry that a game received a 9/10?!? You really can't satisfy anyone these days. I wonder how much of that hate is because that the reviewer is transgender. I.. just... cannot... believe... the... amount... of... stupid!
Personally I think that every review is absolutely subjective, as people seek for different kind of things in games or any medium at all. The only reviewer you should trust completely is yourself, only use the reviews etc. as a guiding point.
SpiralTear  +   399d ago
That's not why they're angry. They're angry because Carolyn is supposedly bringing political and social views into the critique, making it even more subjective.

I do think that if the point was important enough to be noted in the cons section, it could've been articulated in the review text better. However, regardless of Carolyn's verdict, that in no way justifies the disgusting amount of hate in the review's comments and on the (former) petition's page.

This isn't like with the Tom Mcshea petition where they wanted him fired simply because he "can't review games." They want Carolyn Petit fired for being Carolyn Petit.
Dan_scruggs  +   399d ago
Calling out GTA for being misogynistic is completely valid. Strippers, prostitutes, shrewd female stereotypes abound in the world of GTA. This could be rectified by having a playable female character. Here is hoping for DLC.
JonnyBigBoss  +   399d ago
I guess Breaking Bad is a garbage show since it has so many drugs.
Dan_scruggs  +   399d ago
Breaking Bad glorifies absolutely nothing about the world of crime and drugs. If you try to argue that point then you haven't been paying attention to the show.

GTA is quite the opposite.
beebap  +   399d ago
Yea looking forward to playing but as straight woman I dont think ill will be looking for many hookers but like to watch once just to laugh at it.Also strip club I heard u need to go for trophy or mission.I take this light heartly but would love to get to enjoy the full game with female characther who can go to male club also im sure few guys would like that too. I think it would be refreshing to have this flipped.
Brucis  +   399d ago
I like how everyone is pretending it's about the score the game got when it's about how the game was called misogynistic and got docked for it. It's even in the summary under the title for crying out loud.
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