Screenshots for Ryse: Son of Rome have been altered from the original on the official Xbox site.
Why the hell would they make it look grayer? :x
So much for Crytek being the "kings of graphics" and stuff. @Septic What about this one? http://i0.wp.com/pixelenemy...
Lol Crytek the "King of Graphics"? Sure maybe on PC, but on consoles their games always under deliver. Games like Halo 4, Uncharted 3/Last of Us and God of War III all look much better (and play better) than something like Crysis 3 on consoles.
Really? You're going to nit-pick on this level? Well than I hope you apply the same standard for all so-called next-gen games. I mean look at this: http://i0.wp.com/pixelenemy... Surely I can't be the only one thinking this is way too much?
Why is it that doctored screenshots, which everyone does, are such an issue when MS does it, but when Sony puts out trailers using a target render it's fair game?
To me the original looks loads better, not faded and less blurry. Could be a simple case of a completely new screenshot that is taken from an updated version of the game. Might be that they had to reduce the quality a little bit to ge it running smoothly with the provided X1 specs. @Bessy - It wasn't fair game because they took a lot of bad press for it.
@xHeavYx ..Here You are again xHeavYx in yet another X1 article making negative comments about Microsoft's machine and its games .... We get it ok the PS4 is more powerful , it has better games , it is a better console , Sony loves the gamers , Sony FTW , Jesus can't even read an article on here without seeing Your screen name all over the place ..
@Jimsas. You are such a hypocrite. Here is a comment from you bashing DriveClub, on an article related to Assassins Creed! http://n4g.com/news/1353543... Going through your comments I can see you are just another Xbox fanboy who cries every time your little cable box is insulted, so I won't spend much time on you
@ xHeaVyx - Thats not the case at all - I have both consoles on Pre-order , My comment about Driveclub relates to a valid point ... Why would I care about being able to view star constalations in a driving game - thats not bashing anyone its just my opinion. I was at Gamescom and played/saw Driveclub , Ryse and Forza 5 running on actual ps4 and x1 hardware and I can assure you that forza 5 looks and runs better than driveclub does and driveclub maybe 1080p but it runs nowhere near 60fps. The point i was making was if the PS4 really is that much more powerful than X1 you couldn't see it from the games I saw. You can argue all You want but what i saw was what i saw and if a PS4 'exclusive' is not making good use of the power on offer then maybe the games not all that good..... just a thought You however are in the comments section of every X1 article slating the machine and/or its games if you really don't like the machine so much just stay away don't buy one , none of your opinions are based on known facts just 'what you've heard' or 'read' from anoynomous sources on N4G. The rumours may well turn out to be true but right now you're not offering Your opinion you're ramming it down peoples throats Maybe I am a fanboy but You're just annoying.
I worked for a gaming magazine (among other magazines), and pretty much every screenshot gets a little tweak/boost in some settings to make it pop-out a bit more, or whatever. No biggie. Ryse doesn't look appealing to me though. Not a big fan of QTE-games. I also know nothing about the main character(?) or story or whatever, so I'll just see how it will turn out, but I kinda expect it to score in the high 70's, low 80's.
@bessy67 Could be because xbox fans would say Ryse was the best looking game they've ever seen on any console evar? I've always thought the graphics debates were comedy myself. To me, it's the games that speak for themselves, not screen shots.
lol, seriously this sounds so desperate from neogaf/pixelenemy to discredit Ryse, "Does this bother anyone at all? I honestly couldn’t tell the difference" "It is no big secret that game companies might make their screenshots look better than they are though – that’s just basic marketing." -So why the article? Hell I looked and looked cant really tell what their talking about, ...you could switch those pics and nobody could tell. Lately pixelenemy has made some very poor news with sensational headlines based on essentially nothing. -We've seen the game running on X1 hardware so we all know what this is about.
Seriously? We all seen the game running so why the F you guys even talk about screenshots? Game is PLAYABLE on XO it was there at PAX and it will be there october 4. It's also playable on Beta hardware shown in youtube leaked videos. Why the fuss about screenshots when the game already is up and running? Also the so called "original picture" is not completely original at all. Just for the sake of the article quality in Original one was downed awfuly just to make it look 480p resolution. Ryse runs native 1080p and anyone who believe this crap with screenshots is just an idiot this is the original screenshot without the stripes removed just as in article but in normal quality http://s.pro-gmedia.com/vid... We could be also looking in Second Son screenshots where half of it got Anti Aliasing and other half doesnt. Obvious photoshop. http://www.cinemablend.com/... Waiting for articles about it...oh wait..its sonygaf and nfs.
So now we're nit picking? Are we seriously doing this now? Next news: Forza care model tires look a little less rendered compared to ____<<Insert screenshot here. This is really getting out of hand.
Another troll comment from xHeavyx?
No way I don't believe it. Why would Heavy, an admitted Sony fanboy waste his time being at the top of each comment in ever Xbox One article with something negative to say?
I mean that would be trolling right? Adding nothing to the conversation.
I wonder what he thinks of this:
The link Ballseye posted. Looks like the same was done with a PS4 game for ads and the public.
Another post by Xbox fun attacking me because I hurt his precious Xbox One? No way I don't believe it. Why would XboxFun, an admitted Microsoft fanboy waste his time attacking me every time? That's immature isn't it? Adding nothing to the conversation. I wonder what he thinks of this, himself bashing TLOU and Uncharted http://n4g.com/news/1355193...
@ everyone who thinks they can tell the difference between 30fps and 60fps guess what you can't I play a lot of war thunder on my laptop my frame rate goes from 15fps to 60 fps (is an older laptop) from about 25fps up I can't really see much of a difference.
I think the original game screens look better, so MS is shooting themselves in the foot with this imo.
@Heavy you stated yourself your are a fanboy. http://n4g.com/comments/red... You claim that you come with facts, you have come through sometimes, but why is that somebody come with facts in regards to the PS (that's negative) they're trolls and a automatic fanboy? What about logic? Instead of saying "So much for Crytek being the "kings of graphics" You would click on the article and clearly see the guy is DESPERATELY nitpicking to the point he needs to magnify the picture to justify his claim. I see a small difference but to an average gamer they would barely even unless they truly looked at it. The fanboy part about is you don't use logic. And when you do, you use logic that benefits your inner fanboy instead of real and sensible logic like you failed to do here. Its not all about "facts". Like I said you failed because you just just read the headline and said the first thing that came into your fanboy mind. Instead of looking as the picture and coming up with sensible logic that's super easy to dismember. This isn't even news and yet you gladly ran with the headline. Facts and logic are strong but what's facts if you have no logic, very little logic, or lopsided logic that benefits you and the rest of the fanboy crowd. Considering this is N4G I rather use logic than facts. And boy do people hate it.
@hellzsupernova, "I play a lot of war thunder on my laptop my frame rate goes from 15fps to 60 fps (is an older laptop) from about 25fps up I can't really see much of a difference." No, just no.
King of graphics... Yeah ok
Well that's not surprising. That micro$oft would try and pull the wool over our eyes. I mean NSA, DRM, etc. Why would it surprise anyone that they would photoshop screenshots ?
You are annoying ! you hear so much of Ps fanboys it puts you off ! I have pre-ordered a Ps4 but you put new gamers off coming to Ps4 off with your fanboy-ism towards other people's choice of console that is why I didn't come to Sony last generation with gamers like yourself , every article you are on with your negativity towards other consoles yeah .
Clipping is something that bothers me more than anything else in games when it comes to technicalities, and I really hope they've got it under control over the next 2-3 years.
the problem here is that the xbox fans would be jumping all over this if it was a PS4 title (hell they were saying driveclub looked like a N64 game based on a video that had been compressed countless times over), but since it's their beloved ryse, we're nitpicking when it's quite obvious between the two screenshots that there's a difference in lighting/shadow detail? or the same people nitpicking over a few palm tree leaves in GTA V? so @ jokes, balls, fun, and diamond: quit acting like a bunch of hypocrites. edit: i've even seen people spouting off nonsense about "downgraded" visuals for PS4 watch dogs... except no proof was ever shown.
i agree with you jokes on you. This is lame all game companies photoshop their screens to make them look better this is nothing new. More importantly the photoshopping job done here seems rather modest.
reading some of these comments im surprised people are shocked by a Microsoft exclusive being shrouded in smoke and mirrors...they do this nonsense all the time
Crytek doesn't make games. They make tech demos for PC, so yeah I guess they're king of graphics but just for PC though.
Let's be honest here, the photoshop is pretty obvious in that shot but why wouldn't they photoshop it? Those straps are clipping pretty bad and they wanted to use the shot for the site so touching it up isn't really a big deal. I can't imagine any game company posting a shot that clearly shows a big imperfection like that on their website. It probably would've been a better idea to just take a shot where the straps weren't clipping but I guess photoshopping was easier. I don't see the problem in the Infamous shot you trolls are posting. I see ailasing on the tail light of one car and I don't see Sony trying to hide it. What is it about that shot that makes it a "bullshot"/ photoshopped?
LMAO! are you kidding me the graphics hardly look different and then they are going to zoom in on the armor and say greyer. You want to tell me who on earth while playing ryse is going to pause the game and walk up to the screen and analyze as much as these guys? Also im sure it is the same for any game you look at. The game graphics look top notch and im pretty sure when xbox owners are playing it and fighting people they arent going to notice something so miniscule when they are too busy stabbing people in the neck. Try trolling harder next time some of the people on this site are sooo ridiculous. Sit back and enjoy the GAMES! Aint nobody got time to be doing this screenshot nonesense.
@jimsas Either you are trolling or you need glasses because Driveclub looks and plays way better...I know I watched both while I was at PAX prime and guess what MSs booth was right next to Sonys. Does Ninja Gaiden look better than God of War because its at 60 fps...hell no. FPS just make look smoother thats all...moreveffects and better graphics do go a long way.
It was a Xbox 360 a very long game, guys. It hardly ever qualified as next gen to begin with. Couple that with all the bad press and you've got yourself an awaiting disaster.
FACT remains the 2 screenshots look different, and it was MS that did the changes not "fanboys", instead of asking why that happened XB1 fans shift the attack on commentators
Anybody seen the real WatchDogs for Ps4 it looks more like a Ps3 game Ubisoft conned us at E3 when it looked so good in reality it looks like a Ps3 ordinary game go check it out n youtube I can't give you the web ad because I'am using an ipad
@Above calling xheavyx a fanboy doesn't change the facts MS said ryse runs at 1080p and today they pulled a 180 and said its runs at 900p, and since 21st we didn't see a single malti-plat demo running on x1 Food for thoughts
@Riderz1337 I don't think Halo 4's graphics were great. KZ2, God Of War 3, and Heavy Rain really pushed consoles.
WOW!! his forearm looks like it's gonna burst through the armor covering it...
Thank god for GTA V to hold me over until PS4..
I'd say the recent news about the resolution (upscaling to 1080p instead of native) is a bigger deal than this. Though photoshopping screenshots isn't cool, it may turn out that the added detail was something they planned to have in there by launch. Either way it won't impact the fun factor, and Ryse has always looked fun to me. I just never agreed that it was the best looking early next gen title around.
The art style in ryse is what sucks if you ask me. The graphics are fine, the gameplay looks shit though. Forget about the qte's the combat just lacks a certain fluidity that makes the overall game seem lame. Thats just my opinion though this is a launch titles so sure many people will pretend its the best game ever but in a few yrs we will look back and most of us will acknowledge the truth. This game reminds me of Lair for ps3
@ Heavy http://n4g.com/news/1355193... That's me bashing TLoU? Where exactly do I bash TLoU. Is it not a "fact" that it doesn't do nearly half of what GTAV's design does? Can you fly planes, boats, cars and roam an unlocked sand box city? No you can't, so how am I bashing TLoU? Oooh, you were desperately trying to grasp at straws while avoiding the numerous people calling you out. You thought to take the easy way out. Too bad. So much for the "facts" and "answers" right. Maybe it's time to use your other account ;-)
I've played it at the GS Expo, and I must say it was very disappointing.... This was my top X1 game, but visually it was no where nearrrrr what we saw at E3, and worst of all were the controls... It just felt very clunky... Forza 5 however exceeded expectations and is now the #1 for me on X1.
I was curious about RYSE. I kept thinking that it couldn't he as bad as people were making it out to be. I still haven't played, but initial reports are not promising. Graphics look good, gameplay does not look the least bit entertaining. Forza 5 looks fantastic. To me- it is the only "must have" exclusive launch title for xb1. In a sea of current gen ports, options kinda seem scarce. If you are getting a PS4, it looks like Killzone:Shadow Fal is your game of choice. If don't like racing games, your're probably not getting Forza, so RYSE needs to be a successful title. I still remain skeptical.
Id rather play driveclub free than pay for forza , but only because im not a huge racing fan , no hate on forza ... To tell truth id rather race in gta5 .... Remember in vice city you could jump out rocket all four cars and crawl to victory lol
Game look great running on PC with titian graphic cards not so much on under power xbone.
LOL. This is one of the most desperate write ups I have seen in my many years of gaming. I mean this game has had more game show hands on demo play than any other next gen game. Many people have seen and played it. None of those people are disputing that this is one of the best looking games ever made.
Well, apart from the guy directly above you that is... (us_army) Just sayin.
Ever? That's a bit of a stretch. But if people only play consoles, chuck steak, while still being steak, will seem like filet mignon. But then again I remember people saying certain 360/PS3 games had better graphics than PC games, only to then see One/PS4 games that were 'the best eva' even though they still don't bypass what was done years earlier on PC. People see what they want to see. You still actually have people saying 30 FPS is ok and they can't tell the difference. No, it isn't OK. Next gen will have some really nice looking games and tons of fun to be had. But remember if you make a claim like that people playing at a kiosk that 'none of those people are disputing that this is one of the best looking games ever made' then you're supposed to back it up. Looks like to me it is a game with DECENT graphics and a bunch of QTE's. If that floats people's boat then GREAT. I also wouldn't be surprised that some people played a PC version that looks superior running on a PC meant to be representative of an Xbox One.
Look up. Look waaaay up.
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"None of those people are disputing that this is one of the best looking games ever made." Wouldn't it almost have to be? We are about to start a new generation after all. Pretty much all the launch titles would have a chance to be on that list.
"Ryse: Son of Rome may not be as good as it looks, rendered screenshots have been photoshopped" I find this hard to believe. Crytek games always have great graphics specially if they have a powerful machine at their disposal.
Key word: Powerful machine.
Hard to believe? It's pretty obvious that the clipping on the strap and the armor was photoshopped away. And it really doesn't have much to do with whether Crytek can produce "great graphics," it's just a minor modeling error that should be easy to fix. I don't really have a problem with "bullshots" that adjust contrast or saturation or whatever, but the clone tool should *never* enter the equation. On a side note, the modeling and texture work on the NPC is *way* below the quality of the main character.
xbox one hate has gotten so bad, that we now have to focus on the grey, areas of gaming...
Now the hate is on a microscopic level. They're trying to find the smallest detail to ridicule. This article is hilarious.
I thought we were all supposed to be watching tv with our Xbox cable box anyway. Can't win with some of these guys.
Ryse: Son of Rome may not be as good as it looks. Yeah, if your more interested in screenshot than the game. This is really becoming a joke now, I can't believe the lengths that people are going to. Its coming across as so desperate, I'm beginning to think that fear is starting to creep into the equation. Why, when every man and his dog knows that the PS4 is most powerful console of the two, is there such a great desire and need to try to annihilate anything to do with the Xbox? Anyone have an answer that doesn't sing from the fanboy Hymn book? Because I am really curious to know.
Bad news? About Xbox? *Votes "For sure ->>"*
its crytek, they have the backing of MS so funding shouldn't be an issue. Crytek has a long history of making very good looking games that are boring to play here is hoping they change that
Its not just the things pointed out in the article. There's a lot more 'touching up' going on. Look at the skin-tone on the arms, the shadows under the helmet are reduced (to show more clarity), various coloured patches are minimised and altered. Not saying it means much (if anything), but there is a lot of Photoshoping in that picture.
Grey is the new brown. Or so I hear.
I don't think microSCAM is photoshopping I real believe this are from the dell with the titian card photos . Now m$ is running on real xbone and it is way under powered.
Lol it's funny that you could only notice that if you were looking that close. What's the point of such subtle photoshopping that people can't tell the difference between the two lol.
Because it's to hide the armor clipping through the model. Its not as subtle when you see it in motion.
Not really. The Neogaf thread had a much better and bigger image. It is DEFINITELY a noticeable difference. (but then again some people can't tell last gen from this gen...so if people are that or are towards that end of the spectrum...then perhaps they'll miss it too). But for the average gamer they are going to notice a big difference. Whatever site used those two photos as comparisons should be ashamed of using low res photos to make a comparison. This way both look awfully similar. When you see the better quality images of those two images, you'll see one that looks noticeably worse. http://www.neogaf.com/forum... Go almost all the way down on the first page. There you'll see the true difference.
The lighting on the armor looks kind of bad
@superlupe once again comparing raw power to something that has to be connected to the internet to see its full potential, which a good majority of the gaming community doesn't even have so i'll take Gddr5 over the cloud anyday. kanck does look stunning Pixar style is very cool and not to mention it plays better than ryse so there's that.