The Escapist: "A technical achievement, GTAV's driving and shooting gameplay in an excellently crafted open world is marred by a script that presents despicable characters as the protagonists."
Phff lowest score I've seen yet, anything for hits...
If you give this game 7/10, chances are we're going to disagree when the game comes out, and i'll no longer value your opinion.
Story Quality? ---> WTF Like this website? ---> Hell no
GTAIV got 10/10 from almost every site... the lowest it got was 8/10... which we now think is the correct score. i never managed to finish the game because it was so boring. i give 6/10. who knows GTAV is could actually be 7/10. it's a wait and play by yourself then judge scene.
Ummm what? They took off points for the protagonists, does the concept of ANTI-HERO not have any meaning? Last of Us did the same thing.
The *escapist* giving a bad score for hits? Or you just wanting to believe that the game you want is the bestest? Just go read IGN's review and pretend this one doesn't exist, if it will make you happier.
I don't read IGNs reviews.
IGN is a joke. At least recommend: Gamespot, Rev3Games, Giant Bomb... Gamespot has a shaky past because of Giant Bomb founder getting fired for giving a bad score to Kane & Lynch but nowhere near as bad as IGN with basically every Triple A game. http://i.imgur.com/VmREt6D....
@GamingFeud Not the point. @wishing I said IGN because I don't even need to look it up to know that they gave it a 10/10.
GTA4 received global praise and it was boring as hell to me, so i kind of agreed on some of the lower scores. With that said 3.5 isnt a low score, its just not what you want it to be.
@abusador Thats it.
The hype is so huge for this game that even a 9/10 seems like a low score to some. I honestly don't get why it's so important for people if this game gets 0.1 point more or less in the metascore.
GTA4 was incredibly boring. Filled to the brim with speed bumps to the gameplay and an environment with a whole lot of nothing to do (after you've gotten your fill of running over old women and getting into ultra-easy to escape police chases).
why do you click if the game is 10/10 for you? you are a GTA fanboy? let me remind you that others aren't and people might hate what you might love and cherish.
Hell yeah I'm a GTA fanboy, nothing wrong with being a fan of one of my favorite video game series. Although I won't go to extremes and bash other people's opinions on the game.
@GamingFeud: hey man, i never said something was wrong with being a fan. you need to live with the fact that others might not like what you like. In my opinion GTA is a good series but too linear for my taste. Also, it gets boring after a few missions. you might not approve what i'm saying but my opinion is still standing. Respect mine i respect yours.. cheers
after my experience with GTAIV I will be taking the lower scores much more seriously than the 10/10s. not saying the low scores are right but I'll read all of them and see what's what
HAHA, really? The Escapist wants hits? OR MAYBE!?! just MAYBE its someones opinion on the game?! HOLY [email protected] reviews are no longer about opinions guys.. game gets 9-10 or site wants hits. Pathetic. I trust The Escapist for a lot of information including awesomely clad realistic reviews.
Yes, but your still allowed to say, "I think this guys opinion is shit. Remind me not to listen to him because he values things too differently to me." I know I wont be looking to this guy when Joe Danger 3 comes out to see if I should buy it or not.
Ok whatever you say, when sites like Polygon gave The Last of Us a low score people were complaining. I'm not the only one, of course I want to see GTA V get good scores. Because I enjoy the series.
Props to Escapist. For being sincere and not drinking the GTA hype kool-aid.
except they seem to give it a low score for an issue that is fundamental to what GTA is all about and what it has always been about. in fact if anything one of the reasons GTA4 was not as much fun (at least playing as Niko) was that R* tried to give him some sort of honorable reason for doing what he was trying to do... and quit frankly, it made him the least interesting of all the main characters from the GTA series. They are suppose to be bad guys, they are doing it because they want to get paid... wait, hold on... this is GTA we are talking about, and this is suppose to be a bad thing??? have people lost their marbles ? if you want to play a nice crime fighing guy, go play batman ! There is nothing honorable about being a dring dealing thug, and that is what makes GTA.... wait for it...... GTA !!!!
This game can't be higher than 3.5/5 unless the bank robbers in the game give all their money charity, and volunteer in homeless shelters on the weekends. This game wopuld have been a 5/5 if every NPC you kill, the main character should go to their victims' funeral. And when you rob someones car, you should be able forced to pay for any damages, get its oil checked, and take it through the car wash. Now that's what I call GOTY. /S!
exactly... instead of stealing cars, they should have you push little old ladies in wheelchairs around town while doing grocery shopping !! has to be the stupidest complaint I have ever read for down scoring the game.
Lol being sincere means scoring awesome games low scores? More like they drank the click-bait kool aid...
"It's certainly fun to be the bad guy sometimes, but only buy Grand Theft Auto V if you're prepared to play as characters with no justifiable motivation for doing awful things to people" Seriously? when did GTA ever NOT have morally unjustifiable acts? Pretty sure when i drove on the side walk in previous games my motivation was not pure. I dont mind seeing lower reviews, but give us a good reason.
Ok, so the guy gives you reasoning for his score. Accept it and move on... Everything isnt for everybody. He is part of a gaming website and is entitled to review on of the years biggest games. This is subjective matter people, no use in banging your heads against the wall over it. This man said it best... abzdine + 12m ago why do you click if the game is 10/10 for you? you are a GTA fanboy? let me remind you that others aren't and people might hate what you might love and cherish.
You know just because a game scores high by many sites doesn't mean its over-hyped, it might actually be its really good. Considering you and I don't have the game yet (at least I assume you don't) we are in no position to agree or disagree with either Escapist or the Dozen other gaming site that reviewed this game. Personally (and I estimate about 6 million other people) won't care what the reviews say as we will have the game to play tomorrow or at least within a week.
Don't click, we all know that this game is going to be awesome.
That's exactly what I thought about GTA4. Sold it back to gamestop two weeks after release when I finished it. It was all hype and nothing more. This time could be different but aftet GTA4 I didn't even pre-order this one and not sure if I will gwt it or not, same goes for Call Of Duty.
I guess everyone has conveniently forgotten about GTA4. Also nobody remembers Rockstar's previous game, Max Payne 3. But now if GTA5 doesn't automatically receive 10/10, then that site must be "trolling".
GTA4 certainly had more than its fair share of problems but Max Payne 3 was an absolutely incredible game that actually got the opposite of GTA4's treatment if you ask me. I think most people discounted it because it wasn't the comicbook noir they wanted from Max Payne. I myself fell for the backlash and didnt pick the game up until I was bored one time and bought a discounted copy as almost an afterthought. When I did I found it to be a ridiculously smooth and beautifully made shooter. In fact Max Payne 3 and Red dead redemption are the things that have been reassuring me that this wouldn't be another overly ambitious mess like GTA4.
LOL fine attention whoring right here
one big epic fail of a review if ever I read one.
7/10 nice score guys! /sarcasm Basically, the main complaint is a lack of warming to the three characters in that they do bad for the sake of being bad rather than a juxtaposed motive players can relate to.
we've found the click bait!!
Hope this doesn't get to metacritic, I mean 4/5 years of hard work to make such a great game which at this point is rated 99/100 in metacritic, and you come to rate it a 3.5..
Yup. Poor Duke Nukem...
sorry accidentally downvoted you when I wanted to agree. lol.
ROFL well said
Seems like a fair review really, unlike those giving it a 10/10. It's hard to find honest reviews today.
I knew someone would do this. Lol.
Funny how the lowest review gets the most attention. Calm down people.
>marred by a script that presents despicable characters as the protagonists ...Yes, that's GTA for you. You aren't a good person. You do both good things and bad things. Protagonist doesn't mean 'hero', it means main character. That's why the term Villain Protagonist is a thing. It's not supposed to make you seem like a good guy.
Well...i knew i was gonna find one. i actually scrolled on n4g to find out if there were any troll sites looking for hits. and here we are... ppl don't click on this shitty site!
Wow. 7/10. Lowest I've seen. Still not clicking.
I find it hilarious that some people will get upset about a negative review of a game that they haven't even played yet. Imagine going through life thinking, "Everything that I'm excited about has to get a high arbitrary score from a reviewer, or I'm gonna be upset!"
well their reason for giving it the score they have is not one that requires you to have played the game. they don't like it because the characters are bad just for the sake of being bad..... since when have you played a good buy in GTA ? if they had given it a low score for technical reasons or said they didn't like the script or something then I would think well, I have not heard it so I will hold judgement but its like they could not find anything wrong with it, so they just thought lets just mark it down because you are a bad guy for no reason when the whole point of playing gta is that you are playing a bad guy...
"Since when have you played a good buy in GTA?" Did you even read? They clearly address that. "What's missing in GTA V's story is a sense that the characters have been painted into a corner by various machinations beyond their control, like Niko Bellic of GTA IV, or must commit their crimes to mete out justice, as Tommy Vercetti does in Vice City. The three main characters of GTAV do terrible things merely to get paid." The whole review definitely says to me they played the game, maybe you ought to read it before reacting. Or get some reading comprehension if you did. They go in depth about the game in ways that only someone who played it could go. I just know you, like so many other people in this comments section, saw "3.5 / 5" and let that COMPLETELY bias their opinion while they literally glanced at the actual review. Reactionaries.
I did read it, and I don't see how a drug dealer carrying out vengeance because he has been ripped off turns him into a "good guy".... he is still a drug dealer, still motivated by money etc etc... just like all the other characters from GTA. the only character you could argue meets up with moral line they drew for themselves is Niko. If playing characters that fit into that darker element of the human mind is upsetting, then playing GTA is the totally the wrong game to be looking. Most of us play GTA because it's game. it has an interesting story, and it's just plain fun. A good story can be told about all kinds of people good or bad...and while some people are bad because they have been "pushed" into that corner by life, others are just evil because... well they are evil. " some men just want to see the world burn "
It is a little difficult taking this reviewer seriously when he complains about criminals doing criminal-ish things in a GRAND THEFT AUTO game. Also, he goes on about how the society in the game is full of itself and concentrates hardcore on self image. Yeah, it is based off of California, which is in the United States, which is exactly that, full of itself and constantly concentrating on self image. This is basically a parody-like representation of that.
I also do not understand how he left out all other aspects of the game in his review. There are many other things to do other than bashing people's face in... Ex. Tennis, car collecting, marathons, and BASE jumping. It just seems like he was very biased to begin with.
Didn't leave out tennis. The reason he probably left out all that other stuff is because he had no issues with it, and in fact that good stuff probably contributed to the score he gave it positively. He frequently praises the games massive and detailed world full of stuff to do.
is that guy Tipsy Bartender?
this guy will have it hard for the next couple of days with the death treats and other fanboys spamming his mail box with hate.
Why do people want to simulate being psychopath though? You have to ask yourself that. Particularly in this game where they're all just pure evil as opposed to anti-heroes. For me, I can barely play a videogame if the character is a dick, let alone if he or she is just murdering wantonly. Farcry 3 was unplayable to me just because I didn't want the main character or his dumb friends to succeed. It was a white male frat boy power fantasy- a white kid becoming the savior and overlord of a small island full of non-whites. You can say the narrative demands that the characters be assholes, but the narrative also can't exist in a bubble, no matter how much you lie to yourself that it can. Why are we even making a narrative in which the strongest voices are complete monsters? Are we to take this as supporting them? Why is it that you want these characters to succeed? Why is it that you keep playing? How are you not completely turned off by the reprehensible values being glorified in the game? It may be just a load of pixels, but the language and its meaning transmits and transcends those limits. Values are communicated, in most cases subliminally to the uncritical GTA audience. The narrative alone can't justify these things, that's just irresponsible. A narrative isn't self contained, it reaches beyond its own borders into peoples minds. Also, the reaction to this just shows people's brainwashing. 3.5/5 ISN'T a bad score. The problem is that too many 7/10 reviews have been written that berate a game, and people have come to associate 7/10 as bad, when in actuality, it's quantifiably quite a good score. One last thing. Why is that people assume if a game (or anything) gets great reviews across the board bar a few outliers, that it's somehow objectively good? It's this majority rules mob mentality. Has it ever occured to you that you who are part of this majority are in fact wrong? And that you're the victim of a mass brainwashing? Just because lots of people like a thing doesn't mean that thing is unimpeachably good. All it means is that a majority of people think the same way, which in this case isn't exactly a good way at all. At least this review cuts the corporate butt-licking and actually talks critically.
TL; DR. Cry us streams, rivers and oceans.
TL;DR eh? Well then, I guess that means you didn't read the review either since that's much longer. Oh well, I'd expect nothing more from a rabid, reactionary GTA fanboy with zero critical faculties. Does all information have to be in sound bite form for you to bother with it? What an intelligent and well read person you must be.
Eh, I love GTA as much as the next guy but you just proved his point with that response.
@Gespenst Look at you fuming up and drowning us in more of your sorrows. There are many modes of expression - in games, film, art and books that have immoralities and themes that are more provocative or challenging. No one's forcing you to check them out, but you do, understandably, out of curiosity, even when you know you won't like it. Even if you did, that's fine and all but if you're going to allow your personal conflicting set of principals to prompt yourself to write a review out of context, there goes your credibility down the drains, along with the flows of your tears.
Wow.....I can't say I really disagree with you. But GTA is what it is for being fun, and meniacle. You now, for entertainment. You definitely have a point but it probably means that the game isn't for you.
It's hilarious that they gave Saints Row IV perfect 5 stars, and now he bashed this game because he probably didn't like the protagonists that this game offers.
It seems like this person was spoiled playing games like Bioshock infinite, and The Last of Us. After playing games like this, expectations can applied to areas where it doesn't really make sense. GTA is what it is, for being fun and funny. Not really being deep into characters motivations, etc.
im sure robing banks and holding up jewelry stores will be fun at first but when every side mission is one or the other it will get tiresome real fast.
"What's missing in GTA V's story is a sense that the characters have been painted into a corner by various machinations beyond their control, like Niko Bellic of GTA IV, or must commit their crimes to mete out justice, as Tommy Vercetti does in Vice City. The three main characters of GTAV do terrible things merely to get paid, and deserve no sympathy. There's no drive in them even to be the best at what they do, the last American value we afford criminals, but rather they commit these crimes with no lifeline thrown to the audience to pull us along in supporting them. It is the difference between The Godfather Part 1 and Part 2, between Inglorious Basterds and Triumph of the Will, and between Just Cause 2 and JFK Reloaded. In the former examples, the audience can get behind the anti-heroes depicted for whatever reason and condone their admittedly awful actions, but in the latter group, the subject matter or the protagonist's morals are skewed too far from the norm to be comfortably witnessed." seems accurate to me
I've been playing the game for a few days now and i can say so far this is a solid 8.5...
After all the 10/10s for GTA IV, which was frankly boring, I'd rather trust the low reviews for this game More
Review scored bring out the utter worst in humanity, 100% of these people bad mouthing anything under a 10 have not even played the game yet. I have had it since saturday and I can tell you it is NOT a 10/10 game, it is awesome and a very enjoyable game but it is not a 10/10. For me so far it is like an 8/10 Things I don't like that bring it down for me - Lack of activities in game compared to red dead/san andreas - flying feels pretty damn bad in choppers and planes - character switching is a bit slow - wanted levels are active for to long when your hiding from police in a concealed area - the lock on controls/melee combat is a bit clumsy as is the cover mechanic and movement around some obstacles - You cannot go into as many buildings as previous games, it just feels a bit restrictive and dead to me if I am driving around looking at 2D shop windows all day. SO no its not a 10/10 game, get over it fanboys.