"Over the past several months, Albert Penello, who leads planning for Xbox One, Xbox 360 and Kinect for Microsoft, has been facing an uphill task."
Panello must thought he could say things on NeoGaf and users would just take his word for it.
why wouldn't he think that... it certainly worked on some people around here...
Penello takes the crown as best Sony double agent, note that Mattrick is gone. I do agree that, at the end, it comes down to the games, but having the most powerful console helps create those amazing games
Albert penello done lying about the xbox one benefits
So basically he admitted he didn't know wtf he was talking about, and it would be better to shut up and let the people who know explain. I said as much when he pulled that peak RAM bandwidth figure out of his ass.
Pennelo shouldn't have go into the specs area. He is stepping back, because he knows that what was stated was true so...
Good like I said those gafs kids only want to hear how the ps4 is a super computer, no amount of explaining will satisfy them. Let the X1 games do the talking, whats interesting is micro has given far more details beyond basic specs than sony, so its ironic sony loyal folks never ask sony things like "Can you elaborate on cpu clockspeed" or "What customization has been done with the ps4 cpu/gpu soc? No just micro has to talk details. Hell new reports/rumors on Sony questioning if they will deliver something previously confirmed are met with, "OK thats fine we'll wait until sony figures it out, but who cares if its true". Typical n4g hypocrisy.
@JOY - Don't worry, apparently it is coming in the next few days if TGS info is to be believed. The truth will eventually be revealed, whether MS or Sony like it or not.
Its not his expertise so he probably just got some numbers of someone from the guys who build the interior of the box. I like the guy for going out of his way trying to communicate with us gamers.
How old are you? What are you doing here with these kids? You sound like a grownup.
He forgot he couldn't just use " Teh Cloud, ESRAM, and Peak Bandwith " willy nilly like on N4G.
@zeal0us You're right!, why should he tell you the details when N4G is full of conspiracy theorists anyway. We have some propper space nut on here like xHeavyx and Maria. I for one will read and wait to verify instead of jumping in and knocking one out over every single article that praises or vilifies either console. They are just shit PC's in a pretty box after all.
Bubububbubut we created directX! He tried to bullshit people that arent as gullible as the people on XBone subreddit. What he got was a backfire of epic proportions. Why havent we seen BF4 on xbone hardware?
We have seen BF4 on X1,looks the same as PS4 dude. Just saying...
Where last i checked it was running on PC or PS4 they have never shown xbox one footage same for Watchdogs.
They had 8 man multiplayer matches at gamescom dude... People were commenting that it looked bad, as in the same as PS4-awful compared to the PC version and were also confused as to why they were only showing 8 men matches when I believe the PS4 demo's were 16 player...
That multiplayer was on PC with an XB1 controller. And people said it looked bad on PS4 cuz they were, for some odd reason, comparing it to the 4k-displayed PC versions they'd seen before. Doesn't make much sense, but hey.
Do you not remember this? http://www.dualshockers.com...
It will be shown on EB Games Expo 2013 4-6 October ""Over 100 consoles will be there, with at least three games on offer: Ryse, Battlefield 4, and Killer Instinct. Microsoft is staying mum on whether Battlefield 4 will be singleplayer or multiplayer. There will also be presentations from game makers developing on the One, and the chance to see Kinect 2.0." Reason why MS was keeping it back is probably because of stereo drivers being unlocked for the third party devs this month (all games were running on mono drivers so far). Could be the eason for DICE running it on high end PC's and saying it represents XO final version, running on XO specs. Should be interesting, knowing that ps4 version was running on medium settings 720p. @majiebeast PS4 version of battlefield was not shown to public. Only behind closed-doors hands on saying it looks bad , blurry and 720p. Just write in google bf4 running on ps4.
"Reason why MS was keeping it back is probably because of stereo drivers being unlocked for the third party devs this month (all games were running on mono drivers so far). Could be the eason for DICE running it on high end PC's and saying it represents XO final version, running on XO specs. Dude, you talk absolute rubbish, you know that? "Should be interesting, knowing that ps4 version was running on medium settings 720p" I like how you conveniently took out X1 from that sentence.......lol http://www.ign.com/boards/t...
Dude, you talk absolute rubbish, you know that? I didnt took out anything from any sentence http://www.ign.com/articles... here you go. "From the moment I sat down, I was surprisingly underwhelmed by the visuals. Instead of the crisp, detailed textures I've encountered this week on the PC version or other titles running on next-gen hardware, Battlefield 4 on PS4 looked soft and muddled. Wall textures looked half-finished, lacking some of the smaller material nuances or 3D variation. Environmental destruction was more extensive than Battlefield 3 and explosions would send larger chunks of buildings into the air, but once again, the particles looked dull. Weapon models looked great at the hip, but as soon as I raised them to look down the iron sights or scopes, imperfections became apparent." How is that rubbish?
Actually, I was refering to your mono/stereo driver remark. I get the distinct impression that you think, once Sony release the PS4 they are gonna sit back and do nothing and watch M$ continue to update all there drivers over time. Man, you are so blinkered........
you cant talk logic on this site its mainly stubborn sony fanboys who are so loyal they sound very ignorant when they write a comment about anything thats not sony.
Its mainly an Advertisement point. "Hey guys lets show gameplay on the better console and so we can get more money then with PC. Oh since there are xbox fans that want to see it on xbox as well? Here you go."
I'd be done too. Both consoles will have benefits Fanboys don't listen and if you think one will be superior over the other in every department you are that said fanboy
I agree with you. They are both great systems, I feel like it it's going to come down to the exclusives and what controller you prefer. I personally pre ordered both because I love games period. But if I only could get one it would be ps4, because I'm a sucker for killzone.
why is that exactly? why do some think it is not possible for the PS4 to be the most powerful console? this is a straight up fact
@newmonday because some people just follow blindly.
Lol...u are that "said fanboy" that lifeisgamesok is referring to. You people don't listen. He or she didn't say that one was not more powerful than the other, he simply stated that they will both have their benefits. There was no need for the Sony Defense Force in that comment.
@newmonday Also show me a ps4 game that looks 40%-50% more powerful than an xbox 1 game.
@MELMAN26 Sorry but in total the XB1 will not have any sort of advantage over the PS4 this is a real FACT, blame MS for not living up to expectations not gamers.
What are you talking about?? Your fanboyism is unprecedented. The fact that majority if not all games will be on dedicated servers, the fact that the xbox will recognize exactly who is using the xbox at any time, being able to use external capture cards, and the xb1's launch line up of exclusive console titles are advantages for the xb1 platform. Sony has their advantages as well, one being raw power and price point. I am a true gamer and both are shaping up to my expectations.
@MELMAN26 we are talking about the power available for games, not the add-on stuff, Penello was talking about this, this is what everyone means when talking about the power difference, what are YOU talking about? PS4/XB1 have different side features like Gaikai/cloud, some like this some like that. a "fanboy" ignores facts like dedicated servers are also available for PS4 games like BF4 and Destiny. should we stop taking about power because it will hurt somebody's feelings? nobody should love a company this much, it's ludicrous people should just face it Sony did a great job, MS tried but came up short
First, you specifically stated "in total the XB1 will not have ANY sort of advantage over the PS4" So I responded accordingly. I There you go doing your fanboy thing again and not listening, never said that Sony will not have ANY games on dedicated servers, xbox has stated that all will be (I say most) on dedicated servers. Why would my feelings be hurt?? Even though the xb1 offers better launch games for me....I will be getting BOTH systems at launch. You can talk power all you want, however I am still waiting on you to show me a ps4 game that looks 40%-50% more powerful than an xb1 game. I want you to actually answer that question this time don't skip over it.
@MELMAN26 I would love to once MS show multi-platform 3rd party games running on XB1 hardware and why is BF4 shown on the PS4 when MS have exclusive marketing and content? "Why would my feelings be hurt?? Even though the xb1 offers better launch games for me....I will be getting BOTH systems at launch" that is all you have to say, the majority of gamers don't agree according to pre-order numbers, the games I'm interested in are Quantum Break and Halo, but only a few games are not enough, MS need to prove the consistent commitment to bring a variety of exclusives year after year like Sony did+
@newmonday There you go damage controlling again and avoiding the question. Just go ahead and say that there is not a game that the ps4 offers that looks 50% better. ok lets not look at the multiplates, show me a EXCLUSIVE that shows that the ps4 has 50% more power.....I'll wait.............. You cannot use pre-order numbers to justify what system offers better games for me, or anyone else....did you factor in the price, how about public (or rather internet) perception?? It's a shame that this site caters to fanboys like you, you are whats wrong with the gaming comunnity today. Ps....still waiting!
@melman, compare what driveclub and forza are achieving, not sure if DC is doing 50% more but it'd sure be close.
@MELMAN26 again, why is BF4 shown on the PS4 when MS have exclusive marketing and content? you don't have an answer for this do you
I want to know what Sony exclusive game uses this 50% power too? "why is BF4 shown on the PS4 when MS have exclusive marketing and content?" So what are you saying here, that BF4 won't be on X1? And I sure it's CoD:Ghosts with exclusive marketing and content not BF4.
Finally, tired of hearing about "teh powah of ze clowds" and "dGPUs". All he did was confusing people furtheer.
All he did was go into more detail on the hardware under the hood. If people dont know anything about cars then yeah you're gonna confuse them when you talk about the design of an engine
But he didn't know and that is the problem. This is why gaf hit him hard because what he said made no sense. Let's look at it this way, you can talk about what is under the hood of a car (that is fine) but what he tried to do is talk about what is under the hood to car fanatics when he knows nothing about cars. He shouldn't have got involved
But he wasn't. There are plenty of people on GAF that know the ins and outs of hardware and development. But they don't work at McDonalds... so I guess they're not experts on "secret sauce."
Whatever stops his damage control antics on NeoGAF is fine by me.
Can we stop with these articles? It's seriously getting old. It's all PR spin right now, and we won't know the truth until both consoles are out for a few years and developers are used to developing for them.
Unfortunatley, these articles are just what the doctor ordered for the sony fanboys. They need news like this to be able to justify their egotistical behaviour on a DAILY BASIS! They cant be happy with the Ultimate Fact that the PS4 is the Most Powerful NextGen Games Console, they need to be able to shit on the xbox and everyone who supports them aswell. Very sad behaviour, just look at some of the comments here. So damn immature.
@2cents no its because payback is B_ _ _ H and you remember 2006 to 09 when the shoe was on the other side so now Xbox hardcore take your medicine like a good boy. OT I respect him for trying but like he said he should had one of designers speak instead of jumping into something he didn't fully understood.a man learn from his mistakes,a great man lean from his and others mistakes.
@1Victor "no its because payback is B_ _ _ H and you remember 2006 to 09 when the shoe was on the other side so now Xbox hardcore take your medicine like a good boy." People have selective memory about 2006-2009. The PS3 got heat from gamers and media alike because it was expensive and the games available at launch and immediately afterward did nothing to justify the extra cost. That said, N4G was, as it is now, still a hive of Sony fans. Every Xbox related article was invaded by said fans to tell people that "teh games were coming" and that every exclusive the 360 had would be coming to PS3 and be miles better on that platform. This place has never changed.
@creechtree. Wrong. This place was Xbox heaven. Easily a 20-1 ratio. Every article submitted was doom and gloom Sony. If you even went into the "n4g open zone" with a pro so y comment you were eaten alive by rabid Xbox fans slamming you and blowing up your PM. Hell I even got a death threat for saying in 2008 that halo was overrated. I should have casched all those pages but I just made a new account. Tides didn't start turning until the Kevin butler ads and the flop that is kinect.
@victor Payback? For what exactly? The only way you could claim payback is if you conceded defeat to the Xbox 360 which is not the case. I stopped posting on N4G for most of the years that you mentioned because fanboyism was getting out of control on both sides! Im not suggesting that either side is better than the other as they are the same side of the coin. But it seems that many go out of their way to intentionally sully anything to do with the Xbox. It was the may reveal that brought me back to be a poster rather than just a reader as the scales were way over to sony's side and the hate and venom was rampant on every single article. I felt that the negativity needed to be addressed with my 2cents, even if it's appreciated or not.
My reaction to him shuting the fug up
Did he just say he's tapping out?
A worldwide choke hold will make you do that.
He talked a few things and specs. Their are custom specialized chips i want to know about that i hope the tech engineers go into depth on them.
Yeah, I have insider knowledge theres a unicorn in the console next to a double size hamster wheel that work in tandem to produce cloud power which will make it over 9000 times more powerful... Seriously? Enough with all this fake made up crap. Console is finalized. They need to get ready (which they are) as they go on sale in 2 months. If these such things existed, why wouldnt he have focused on mentioning them instead of a meaningless upclock for the GPU and CPU on a console that has more fans than a house in Haiti in the middle of the summer?
Like i say dude the tech engineeres will explain the rest of the system like they should. Penello isn't an engineer and should leave that to more qualified people.
Done explaining? He never began. I'm still waiting for confirmation from M$ about the 50% performance difference between the xbone and ps4. I'm not ignorant nor am I naive. I like to know what hardware to spend my hard earned money on. Obviously I would rather go for the best and most durable console with consumer benefits. Or is it his job to make sure that doesn't happen?
It's not a 50% performance overall, just some of the hardware is potentially faster.
It was never told that ps4 is 50% stronger. The origin of this came from People Can Fly dev that said ps4 is 50% faster...and fanboys exploded...but then he added (which wasn't picked up by media anymore) 50% faster TO DEVELOP MUTIPLAT GAMES ON IT. Please watch this http://www.youtube.com/watc... It will help you understand....but ofcourse delusional fanboys will still believe that crap. I'd say let the games do the talking, but fanboys seem to ignore the fact how great XO games look. the 50% more power is a stupid myth made by fanboys who read only what they wan;t to read.
Rightttttttt..... just like the 12gb myth right, or what about the duel GPU rumor. Whatever you say balls.
Actually, the Edge article noted a bunch of devs that spoke to performance advantages in specific areas. It's not restricted to "just" the PCF guy.
Finally, he was just talking about things he had no business talking about in the 1st place and giving fuel to the fanboy fire. I said it before that he had no business talking about specs ever. Notice that when Mr. Cerny speak he speaks on hardware as that is his department. The only game he comments on is Knack as he is on the dev team making that. Mr. Penello needs to go read his job description and stick to it. Stop muddying the water and giving people on here false hope.
Penelope needs to shut up already.
What happened? Did he run out of lies & spins to spew? I don't believe anything that comes out of MS PR people anyways so this works out well.
He stopped because he knows there's no reasoning with fools. That's a well known fact.
Yeah, when I read the threads he was responding in there was some genuine discussion going on, and certainly valid counter questions raised to Albert. However they always seemed to get dragged down into idiotic fanboy drivel surprisingly like here at N4G. Neogaf sadly has lost its way a bit and has allowed fanboy trolls to run rampant.
You don't have to reason with fools. You just have to fool them. That's why they're fools. Plenty of them out there- and around here- believing whatever Microsoft says, even when it's unsubstantiated, or disproven. But that doesn't work everywhere. He was trying to fool those with reason, and it backfired. So he cut his losses.
A true fool is believing everything any company says! I said it many times before that I don't get the whole company loyalty thing. I buy what I want and from who I want. The only company I'm loyal to is the one that signs my paychecks every month. Other than that no other company has my allegiance. That's just me tho. I also don't get this whole "power" issue. Last I checked graphics don't make a game fun. Uncharted is by far my favorite series in gaming but it wasn't the graphics that pulled me in, it was the story and the characters themselves. I like it cause they have personality other than just point, shoot and kill.
Funny coming from a person that believes everything Sony says and even blames other companies for Sony charging multiplayer online. Fool indeed.
Ginesis: Implies that those who did not believe Mr. Penello are fools Hicken: Says anybody who believes Microsoft is a fool Ginesis: Says anybody who believes any company is a fool Can anybody spot what's wrong with this picture?