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Submitted by mii-gamer 298d ago | opinion piece

Is the absence of a unified achievement system on the Wii U truly a detriment?

mii-gamer:

No one can deny that achievement systems have taken storm in today’s modern gaming landscape. Hundreds of articles of sprung up over the internet educating gamers of all sorts on which games to rent, decimate in a short amount of time, and reap the benefits of receiving a substantial boost to their gamer score or trophy collection with little to no effort. What is it about hearing that congratulatory chime that drives so many gamers almost to the brink of insanity, all just to bolster the scores and trophies of their virtual profiles? Is it their inner completionist? Their inner addict? Or are these records of virtual feats accomplished used simply to boast about ones superior “skills” over others? This is a phenomenon that I have been intrigued with for quite some time, and I would love to initiate a greater discussion on this topic. (Wii U)

steve30x  +   298d ago
I really dont understand why people find achievements so great. I can live without them. What the WII U is missing is proper games like GTA V or a proper racing game like Gran Turismo or Forza. If they had their own decent racing game like GT or Forza and GTA V I would buy a WII U.
Starbucks_Fan  +   298d ago
I've always liked achievements because it adds replay value.
truechainz  +   298d ago
The replay value was always there. The only thing that achievements do is spoonfeed the info to you and give you a numerical value to it. I used to love fishing for new cool things to do in a game and don't really need a system to tell me that it would be cool to get 1,000 kills or beat a game on its hardest level. But some people do enjoy it as well so if there is demand then it would make sense to fill it.
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UltimateMaster  +   298d ago
It is a great feature to have.
But on the list of priorities on how to make the Wii U better, this isn't really one of them.
I'd start by having better graphics in general in all games, including the Miis.
Thantalas  +   298d ago | Well said
Achievements are not for everyone - anybody who doesn't like them can ignore them. But for those who enjoy earning them they add to the experience and can add more gameplay value as you try to earn extra achievements from a game.

In an age where sharing with Facebook and Twitter is important to many people, what both Microsoft and Sony have done very successfully with their Achievements/Trophies is allow gamers to have a permanent high score record that is publicly viewable. It also means gamers build up a closer relationship with their console.

The Wii U has no such scoring system and so for gamers who enjoy achievements they feel that gaming on the Wii U does not record their gaming successes. Kinda like winning a football match but not being given a medal for it.

Sony implemented Trophies some time after the PS3 launched and if technically possible Nintendo should add their own achievement system to the Wii U. I am sure there are a ton of gamers who would love achievement recognition for completing the next Mario game.
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Gamingsince75   298d ago | Spam
n4f  +   297d ago
the only thing i disagree with is the sharing on facebook and twitter. nobody care about you killing 1000 gomba.
i prefer mii-verse for sharing anything gaming related
PopRocks359  +   297d ago
"The Wii U has no such scoring system and so for gamers who enjoy achievements they feel that gaming on the Wii U does not record their gaming successes."

I have to offer a rebuttal; what about Miiverse functionality. As long as the game is not online, you can hit the Home button at ANY time and take a screenshot in the game and post it on Miiverse. You can also take those images from Miiverse and use them on your computer.

I now it's not quite on par with the modern achievement/trophy system, and by no means am I trying to say it is, but if we're talking about being able to keep a record of accomplishments or showing others "Hey, look at what happened in my game here," couldn't it just as easily be said that that is what Miiverse is for?
Thantalas  +   296d ago
@Gamingsince75

2. FIFA give medals to all the players at World Cup Football finals.
Many Football leagues across the world also give medals.
svoulis  +   298d ago
I think people like it to flex their e-p33n honestly. I like them to try and challenge myself to complete 100% of the game as possible with some type of indication, that I've done all I could do.
jackanderson1985  +   298d ago
achievements add replay-ability to a game that might otherwise be a once off run through... that being said these days with the MP achievements and the achievements for pushing the A or X button they're a little redundant
mcstorm  +   298d ago
@steve30x Lego city is the WiiU's GTA game. Ok its not got a 18+ game but its a lighter version of GTA and imo a lot more fun as I have never been a GTA fan. I do wish Nintendo would look at doing a Sim game but I own all consoles so don't miss out on GT and Forza anyway. But that said Nintendo has games like Mario Kart and Super Smash Bros which noting on the MS or Sony platform comes close to.

For me im happy for all 3 to have different types of games as it gives a reason to own all 3 consoles.

As for the Achievements it would be nice to have them on there but it is not something im into doing on the PS3 or 360 but I know a lot of people who play through games to get them all.

I do like MiiVerse and once it is on the 3DS as well it will make it even better. One thing I would like to see happen is that Nintendo start to bring the 3DS and WiiU closer with cross platform games like they are doing with Super smash bros.
matgrowcott  +   298d ago
Yes. It's not the biggest problem, but when you have something as great as the Miiverse, you should try and make it a little more about specific games, rather than a blanket forum system.

I don't need achievements necessarily. Just a bar that says how much of a game I've completed. So long as the competitive part of achievements is there, I think most people would be happy.
BOWZER35  +   298d ago
At least you can post your achievements on miiverse right after you do something like your scores, or put a picture showing the proof. An achievement system wouldn't hurt though.
Xof  +   298d ago
I've never seen anyone complaining about a lack of achievements from Nintendo.

I mean, seriously?

It's a lack of a unified ACCOUNT system that people are complaining about.
GeneralRaam93   298d ago | Spam
GryestOfBluSkies  +   298d ago
achievements and trophies are great for replay value. but while i do enjoy them, its not whats stopping me from getting a wii u.
sephiroth420  +   298d ago
i doesnt really make much difference to me, i think its more annoying with the trophy thing, especially when you have to sync it everytime you wanna see them on the ps3 or compare them. it wouldnt stop me from getting a wiiu, there being no HD pokemon game on the wiiu is stopping me from getting one. i wish they'd sell off pokemon to a third party dev.
truechainz  +   298d ago
while i think it is unlikely to be a full hd console version (which I would love), I don't know if you saw there is wii U teaser for some pokemon game that appeared earlier in august. But who knows you just might get your reason.
sephiroth420  +   297d ago
oh yeah i forgot about that, i hope its an rpg and not just a pokemon stadium style game, i'll still buy it either way but after playing ni no kuni, i think a fully hd 3d world would be the perfect move, i think im gonna wait for a price drop, i didnt think much of the wii at first till i played some of the better games on there.
TimeSkipLuffy  +   298d ago
Achievements and a ranking system can sell games as well... there will always be people who like to compete and buy many games just because of that.
IcicleTrepan  +   298d ago
Here's one that I never understood. With a game like Super Mario Bros U, why the heck can't we play multiplayer over the Internet on it?
Gamingsince75   298d ago | Spam
Summons75  +   298d ago
I'm glad it doesn't. Achievements and Trophies are one of the worst things to come out of this generation next to the abuse of DLC. I don't want to be told how to play, I don't want to be told who to defeat, and I want to find out how many chapters are in a story on my own. They are not a reason to replay a game, having fun and enjoying the game or trying to find alternate paths, secret items or areas should be reason enough not 'jump on the moon 50 times without falling'. Being social isn't an excuse either for achievements and trophies. When I was younger if I wanted to brag about an ultimate weapon in FF or beating an extremely difficult game, you either had to invite your friends over to show them or prove it to them while watching.

Gaming wants to become more social by forcing us to use facebook, twitter, trochivments, but it's making gamers more antisocial by allowing people to use the excuse of the internet to keep people away from their house or life.

Miiverse is nice because you can give tips and tricks to help others. I don't personally pay attention but it's a great system.
wheresmymonkey  +   298d ago
I'll take off tv play and miiverse over achievements any day of the week.
worldwidegaming  +   298d ago
Why not have both. Its about the option.
I might hate pickles but thats no excuse to not have them as an option.(maybe some one will eat them...)
You can opt in or opt out.
Choice is always better than NO choice which nintendo is doing...
This is about adding and not taking away or being greatful you have
Great features already.
wheresmymonkey  +   298d ago
What i'm saying is that i'd rather they focus on improving what features they do have, than arbitrarily adding something else thats not that great to begin with.
GentlemenRUs  +   298d ago
In the "Before" time I didn't need achievements to replay my games over and over...

Back then I strive'd to complete the game fully which gave me a sense of pride and accomplishment in what I've done :)
worldwidegaming  +   298d ago
I think nintendo should add them. Its standard practice now.
Its always good to have something but when your without it just feels lacking...
HexxedAvenger  +   298d ago
I just want to make sure that if Something happens to my Wii-U and I have to get it replaced, I don't have to buy what I bought again.
worldwidegaming  +   297d ago
On that note, its real BS that you have to go through the trouble. Nintendo should know better! In fact, I think that could be a class action lawsuit of some sort...(correct my spelling or words if you will.)
_QQ_  +   298d ago
They are probably working on it, maybe not but why else would they be taking so long on that summer patch?
GirlOnFire  +   298d ago
I think achievements/trophies are great and all but I think the online setup is mehful. Load an app to see your friends is annoying and then back out load again. I hope some more updates make it faster at least.
ricochetmg  +   298d ago
It's a video game that is not an achievement
LOL_WUT  +   297d ago
In this day and age it should have achievements don't know why Nintendo decided to leave it up to the developers. ;)
Nevers0ft  +   297d ago
Although I don't personally care for achievements in games, I could be talked into caring if there was a fun element to it... Maybe allowing custom outfits for Mii characters if you complete a certain game (finish Zelda, get a Link costume for example). Or offer trinkets you can put on your Wii U menu or change the wallpaper. I realise that's not how achievements and trophies work on 360/PS3 but it would at least give that Nintendo "spin" to the concept.
Realplaya  +   297d ago
HEy people here's a easy way to post your achievement to FB or your social feeds. Take a picture with your camera phone post it to FB and say hey look I scored a million points, Beat a level, Killed a million characters.

The best part about the WiiU I don't have to look at my friends trophy post I can care less if they beat the game. Also I love the fact I can comment on a game through Nintendo TV when so if I have a friend at work and he wants me to keep him in the loop I can post a score and he can check my feed to see it.
gpturbo81  +   297d ago
i dont even realize achievements are not there to be honest. completely pointless anyway..

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