Recent reporting suggests that the PS4 is 50% more powerful than the Xbox One. While many are taking this as factual statement, there are a few things to consider before jumping on the bandwagon.
The PS4 is NOT 50% more powerful than the XB1. It may be faster but it also has bottlenecks. The PS4 does have a BETTER GPU than the XB1 FACT. Too bad most multiplats will ALL look the same no matter the GPU differences.
I don't believe that they'll look the same. PC multiplats always look better, so why wouldn't the same apply to the PS4?
Both the Xbox one and PS4 share the same PC derived AMD combo chips. That doesn't mean either will be as good as a higher end PC. The GPU's are mid grade in both consoles. The also have a max resolution of 1080p unlike a PC monitor that is much greater. The CPU's for each are made for tablets too. From what I can see, both are nearly the same but take different paths to achieve the same goals. The PS4 uses a higher series GPU and GDDR5 for pooled memory. The GPU is set up to take loads off the CPU which doesn't like graphics memory due to it's non linear nature and latency. The Xbox uses a lower series GPU and slower DDR3 which is great for the CPU, but not so much for the GPU. Their answer was the inclusion of eSram to boost the speed and multiple specialized prcessors to free upthe CPU and GPU. They also have flash ram. In my opinion, the biggest problem third parties will face is gimping the Xbox version since the PS4 doesn't have the advanced camera/mic the Xbox has. Getting them to use the added features may not be cost efficient. If the PS4 does prove to be more powerful, same thing applies. Third parties may not be able to justify using the power not unlike the way they didn't use Blu-ray this gen to make games longer or in "true hd".
@ Death You lost me at " the advanced camera/mic the one has"
"PC multiplats always look better, so why wouldn't the same apply to the PS4?" It's different with consoles, ask Microsoft about that little contract they have.
@Natso - PC is a different animal, and people with better hardware not only expect to make use of it they complain if they can't. Consoles are a different category, and sadly parity is the name of the game. That's why exclusives make better use of each machine than a multi plat would.
That flash memory in Xbox One keeps getting described as memory instead of storage. Flash memory cannot be used as RAM. Flash has limited read and write cycles. Its purpose in the Xbox One is to store system software/firmware. It seems some people want to believe that the flash memory will be used as more RAM. Given how fast even DDR3 can cycle, that flash memory would be useless in no time, and I mean useless. As in, it would have to be pulled from the system and replaced.
^well, it 'can' be used as ram...just terribly slow and inefficient ram...page filing storage, to mimic 'virtual' memory, has been around for decades...
Because ps4 is not better. You just can't see the full picture...blinded by few numbers.
I want to agree with you about multiplats but you got to admit that it's strange we haven't seen any multiplats on X1 hardware this late in the game. It may not be any means for concern but even the X1 crown jewel multiplat game, TitanFall, hasn't been shown running on Xbox One... I have to see something ran on the system other than KI, Ryse, Forza, and DR3 to agree with you.
Its not strange at all, if you read all this articles around or even listen to this video, it is stated that MS is way behind with the XBO drivers more than Sony with PS4. That could be a pretty good reason why you haven't seen any multiplatform games running on XBO.
@ Tuglu, the driver issue or whatever is hearsay. I can only go on what I see for myself and I think it's still strange. We have seen Battlefield, AC4, Watchdogs and others running on PS4 hardware. It looks great but everyone keeps saying (including MS) that multiplats will look the same on Xbox one. All I'm saying is show me. I would love to see how BF4 or watchdogs perform running on the Xbox One so I can compare them before launch. I hate to be one of "those" type of guys but maybe something is up and MS doesn't want the Xbox One games running side by side for people to compare.
That's what im saying if MS is behind on driver that means that the games are not running how they are supposed too. Why would they show an unpolished game? its logical. Im sure will get plenty of comparisons articles, the same way it was this generation so I wouldn't worry about that.
what i think is funny is that everybody seems to think that MS is this great software company...but, they are behind Sony in graphic driver development??? shouldn't MS have all the software issues buttoned up and ready with their army of coders and billions of dollars?
Ha..Ha... You just named 3 games. While we haven't seen the PS4 run any games.
LOL @ Double... Are you serious? All first party and all the major 3rd party games have been seen running on PS4 hardware.
Highly doubt multiplats won't utilize the extra power from the ps4. Marcus Nilsson, producer for NFS Rivals agrees, he says, “What we’re seeing with the consoles are actually that they are a little bit more powerful than we thought for a really long time – especially one of them, but I’m not going to tell you which one. And that makes me really happy. But in reality, I think we’re going to have both those consoles pretty much on parity – maybe one sticking up a little bit. And I think that one will look as good as the PC.”
Nothing about that quote suggests he is talking about the ps4......if you want to get technical, one could think he was talking about the xbox one. All along everyone has been chanting the power of the ps4......so him saying it being more powerful than they thought for a while seems a little of.......unless talking about the extra 4g brought into the equation.
Here's the deal: One console's 50 percent more powerful and $100 cheaper with WAY more exclusives and WAY more independent titles. The other is $100 more costly, 50 percent weaker, and have a much weaker roster of games..... Decisions, decisions, decisions.
For the extra $100 you also get a camera and built in mic that has some pretty outstanding capabilities. Way more indies? Don't those indie titles kind of defeat the purpose of a more powerful console? Not sure how indies are such a plus these days. As for "more" exclusives, if they all appeal to you then that is awesome. At the end of the day I'm not sure if the PS3 had more exclusives I cared about. It's pretty much a wash for me. As for the entire more power debate, 50%? I believe that as much as I believe the specs that say the Xbox one is faster than the PS4. I'm waiting to see the games before I make up my mind. Get the system that has more of the games you want to play. You really can't go wrong that way.
@death, for me and until now no game in the line-up has justified paying 100$ more for a console just besause of kinect. At this point it is just a gimmick that no game will make me like it. Plus I still remember the Prism scandal. So no, I'not paying 100 $ more for a weaker console because of gimmicks.
"Way more indies? Don't those indie titles kind of defeat the purpose of a more powerful console?" I know it's a common human trait to ignore the lessons of history, but MS fans seem to be worse than average in that regard. You really think Sony is going to concentrate on indies for the PS4 to the detriment of AAA titles? That thought process is just bizarre to me.
@Death I'd say Indies are easily taking advantage of the power: http://www.nag.co.za/wp-con... The game play looks even better.
and has a paywall....
Actually, if one is 50% more powerful, the other is 33% weaker ;) All I know is I can't wait to get my hands on my PS4 come November! Anyone denying the power difference is clearly delusional. Even Microsoft don't deny there is a hardware disparity between the two consoles.
@awesomeperson "Anyone denying the power difference is clearly delusional. Even Microsoft don't deny there is a hardware disparity between the two consoles." - OMG, are we still on this?...It isn't about denying whether or not PS4 is more powerful than the X1. Like the guy said in the vid: "I can tell you right now, I can look at games on both the Xbox and the Playstation, and they both look phenomenal. I don't see a 50% difference by any means. So I don't think there's a whole lot of people arguing that the Playstation 4 ISN'T more powerful than the Xbox One, but to sit there and just flat-out say it's 50% more powerful, just doesn't make a whole lot of sense, unless you can back it up, and at this point, they're not backing it up, so I'll believe it whenever I see it." The argument is less about PS4 being more powerful than X1, and more about what does that translate to? If that means PS4 gets an extra 3-5fps, that's not much to write home about...until players can play the games for themselves, we're all at the mercy of the media.
Here is another one. I only cared about games from Naughty Dog, and God of War. Uhhmm that's basically six games I cared about on my PS3. While on my 360 I had The Halo series the Gears of War series the Mass Effect series, The BioShock series. The Ninja Gaiden Series. All of those games were first on the 360. I want deny the PS4 is going to sale a ton at $100 cheaper. Although I like the Xbox1 features alot more for my family.
who cares guys, enjoy whichever console you choose. i am more excited for sony's 1st party studios but nothing wrong with buying xbox one and enjoy some of its exclusive offering do we really need articles like this everyday so say which console is more powerful? also let's wait till we get the consoles so we can test them for our self
"most multiplats will ALL look the same" That's not necessarily true. There was something mentioned recently how the PS4s RAM will help in preventing things like texture pop-in, increase draw distances and even have shorter loading times when compared to the X1. What this guy is saying and we all should be doing is just to "wait and see". It's only a couple months from the home stretch now. If one system is better at something than the other we'll have concrete confirmation of that soon enough (for those that really care). Power isn't everything, there's tons of other reason I prefer the PS4 over the X1 so this debate isn't the be-all end-all of this discussion anyway.
What bottlenecks does the PS4 have that would prevent it from flexing its GPU muscle over the XB1? EVERYTHING has bottlenecks, but by all accounts, those in the PS4 are significantly less than you'd expect, and could even be less than in the XB1. There are differences in the multiplats with the current gen. There will be differences between the XB1/PS4 and Wii U. And if the PS4 is as easy to develop for as they say, while being as powerful as they say, there WILL be differences.
Biggest bottle neck is the CPU. Both consoles have the same Jaguar derived CPU. It is designed for tablets. A shared memory pool creates issues too. CPU's don't care for graphics memory. The GPU in the PS4 is going to help the CPU with calculations which is a plus. The down side of that is it will have less resources to use in graphics when doing so. The PS4 is easier to program than thePS3 was. Not necessarily easier than the Xbox One. Both are the same basic PC derived architecture. The difference is in how the shared memory pool was addressed. Sony went with GDDR5 and lets the GPU help the CPU so latency is not a factor. Microsoft went with DDR3 which is great for the CPU and added the esram and flash memory along with specialized processors to speed things up on the GPU side. The released specs from each company are pretty similar.
'The PS4 is easier to program than thePS3 was. Not necessarily easier than the Xbox One.' Do keep up. PS4 is by far much easier to program for than the Xbone. ATVI was doing the CoD: Ghosts port to nextgen. It took three weeks for PS4 and came out at 90 FPS unoptimized, and four months on Xbone and came out at 15 FPS."
"The PS4 is easier to program than thePS3 was. Not necessarily easier than the Xbox One." PS4 was designed by devs. A memory setup similar to One's was considered... and rejected. The One isn't going to be as difficult to program as PS3 was, but it's definitely more convoluted than PS4.
@Death The PS4 is easier to program for then the XB1 there are no questions about that.You said it yourself "Sony went with GDDR5 and lets the GPU help the CPU so latency is not a factor." "Microsoft went with DDR3 which is great for the CPU and added the esram and flash memory al