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Submitted by codelyoko 875d ago | opinion piece

Rockstar's Extremely Sad Attempt at Anti-Sexism in GTA V- GTA Online's Female Lead and More

The fact that even though Rockstar claimed GTA V has a Male Centric story, they have given a female lead in GTA Online contradicts their own statement. Was a female Lead in GTA really that impossible? We dont think so. Gender Bias Comparison Graph of Rockstar's Games Given. (Grand Theft Auto Online, Grand Theft Auto V, PS3, Rockstar Games, Xbox 360)

vishmarx  +   875d ago
its sad that video game logic makes you sad.
PeaSFor  +   875d ago

we dont need those silly white knight articles trying to put sexism everywhere.

Something that is FACT for you might be DEMAGOGY for others.
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codelyoko  +   875d ago
Sexism is quite a controversial subject :P Something that is WTF for you might be Fact for others.
vishmarx  +   875d ago
FACTS they contemplate on while playing video games?
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Anthotis  +   875d ago
I gave a "wtf" and "no" to this equality drivel as well.
r1sh12  +   875d ago
This article is fishing for hits?
I mean why not rejoice in the fact that there is finally a female playable character in COD?
Or that there has been a female character playable in GTA multiplayer since GTA IV?

I mean this article is talking about sexism, where the game (Singleplayer) is story driven.
Why not also talk about how watch dogs has a male player, as does God of war or Duke Nukem.

If you look at rockstar from a business perspective - they need to cater to their fan base right?
If gaming contains a majority of males, then the ultimate goal would be to cater to them right?

This 'article' is 100% about getting site hits, otherwise the 'article' would be about the industry as a whole...

And the reason why I keep putting artcile in inverted commas is because this does not qualify as an article.

Seriously - Why not complain about how females get the same money as male tennis player, but play less sets and games?
Equality right.. NO? Its just convenient to complain when it suits you.
No actual facts are used, nor is the analysis of the industry as a whole.
You just write a failed article because Rockstar and GTA V are currently highly searched items and expect hits.

You might as well complain the lead actors in Transformers are male..
Its a story driven game.

you clearly do not have the mind set to comprehend facts.
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morganfell  +   875d ago
Outside of the article being an opinion piece, and opinions are the dregs of writing and all that is left of once decent journalism in gaming, if the site publishes the article then they do not get to dodge responsibility for the article by stating "Its an opinion". If you are driving your holier than thou Prius and throw a passenger's trash out the window it is still littering. Shut up, man up, and accept responsibility for publishing this piece of garbage.
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r1sh12  +   875d ago
Exactly - The "This is only an opinion piece" was added after the minuscule uproar.
Blacktric  +   874d ago


They really are starting to push the boundaries of pseudo intellectualism at this point.
cococabana  +   875d ago
"Disclaimer: This is an Opinion piece so treat it as such. Take everything at face-value only."

Jesus People Calm the F*** down. Its just an article contemplating sexism. Not the end of the world.
admiralvic  +   875d ago
Posts about a controversial subject.
Writes the title in an extremely controversial way (It isn't enough that they're "trying", it also has to be done perfectly...).
Starts talking about a game they likely know very little about (embargo is up, so they can't reveal information that isn't already known... which means this article is about leaks / rumors, screenshots and other evidence that is everything, but solid).
Writes it on a website and then gets on N4G, only for people to say you can't really disagree with it because it's an opinion...

Makes sense.
r1sh12  +   875d ago
LOL..There's no anger involved, just disputing very obvious made up facts.
As I said in my first comment - why is the 'writer' and I use that term very loosely, talking about music, film, his religion based on where his twitter says he lives, or how women are portrayed in media?
No he picked a tiny issue which bares no evidence because the story's that Rockstar generally follow have a male antagonist.

Why is he not comparing rockstar to activision or any other game publisher/ developer or even the industry?
#Invalid ? I think so.
GarrusVakarian  +   875d ago
This article is garbage, there is no "female lead" online, you can play as a female or a male, its as simple as that.

People are taking this way too seriously, there are 3 male protagonists, end of, no sexism, R* have stated their reasons for 3 male protagonists, if they feel that the best way to get across the story is to have 3 male characters tell it then so be it. You really thing they wouldn't include a female lead character because they hate women and are purposely being sexist? Pathetic.

"The Female characters in GTA Online can do everything that a male character can – from robbing banks to rambo-ing so they clearly had a female model all rigged and capable of everything. We have a feeling that because of this controversy we might as well see the following GTA games finally having a Female Lead. "

Why wouldn't a female character be able to do everything a male one can?! I don't see any "controversy" here apart from the controversy you are making up.

And if your silly bar chart/graph is anything to go by, then it seems R* games are having more and more female leads as time goes on, which kind of nullifies your point, lol.
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xharrypotterx  +   875d ago
"here is no "female lead" online, you can play as a female or a male, its as simple as that. " Exactly.

So why did Rockstar say that GTA v Story is male centric when it clearly isnt?
GarrusVakarian  +   875d ago
What? Why did you quote me talking about the online portion and then reply by talking about the singleplayer?

You can play as either a female or a male ONLINE, in the STORY you can only play as males, the reasons for that are R*'s reasons, if you truly believe those reasons are as petty as sexism, then you need to re evaluate your thinking.
HammadTheBeast  +   875d ago
Because it's their game.
PeaSFor  +   875d ago

you are obviously confused.
Wni0  +   875d ago
R* has some awesome writers, but they aren't known for being PC. Gamers version of PC however is be as sexist as you want because its a videogame, so all is forgiven, so in that case they are PC.

Quick people write some comments before people start branding you with the white knight label!
GarrusVakarian  +   875d ago

"The concept of being masculine was so key to this story."

They aren't going to add a female to a game just to please people and dodge accusations of sexism. If the story requires masculinity, then expect a mostly male cast. It's as simple as that.
cococabana  +   875d ago
You didnt quite get the authors point. He is Not blaming Rockstar for putting a male lead. He is blaming them because they say that Female Lead wont work in a GTA world yet they have a Female Charachter in GTA Online. Which is a Mirror Image of GTA V story.
GarrusVakarian  +   875d ago
No, they didn't say "Female Lead wont work in a GTA world". They said:

"The concept of being masculine was so key to this story."

Don't try and twist the words.The STORY of this game in particular wouldn't work with a female lead, not the world.... so the authors point is completely wrong.

Also, GTA online isn't a "mirror image" of GTA5's story......where did you read that? Lol.
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RE_L_MAYER  +   875d ago
Finally someone with a brain
Wni0  +   874d ago
People here like to jump on bandwagons, theres no point in actual debate with the gaming community.
opinska  +   874d ago
true that, some tend to over react :/
CaptainPunch  +   875d ago
Who gives a f*ck? It's a video game for crying out loud!
RE_L_MAYER  +   875d ago
Go buy an xbox one-its a videogame concole
CaptainPunch  +   874d ago
Sure, if it has good enough games I will.
AshleeEmerson  +   875d ago
Lol, is this where journalism is headed? Do we really have these same debates when it comes to movies? Or is this such a factor because they (the gaming community) look a the statistics of gamers as a male dominant world?

I'd love a Jet Li movie where it's an actual female performing instead buuuut. It's not so that doesn't matter. The only thing that should matter is the experience. Would putting a cow in the experience make it a better game or movie? Nope I don't think so, they are judging off the wrong merits.

Rockstar just needs to put aliens or robots in their games that has no percieved liking towards male or female. We'll call it Alien Theft Embargo 51 (the only area that matters).

Why the hell are games so political?

Ok, guys enough of my ranting... Get back to wor... Fun.
Anthotis  +   875d ago
Good girl.
thejigisup  +   875d ago
That is one beautiful graph! So colorful, so accurate, so so so friggen beautiful.
Psychotica  +   875d ago
So can you play as a female online and still pick up a hooker?
Dead_Cell  +   875d ago
If you get angry about a poor response to sensational headlines then don't make them. Papers live and die by them, if you wish to be held in the same manner of professional journalism then you have no right to complain.
codelyoko  +   875d ago
Who do you hear complaining? Only the readers. You want proof that people here are like Sheep? Everyone was praising this very same website and author when he wrote the original article that GTA V is the Most Expensive Game of all time. Now that he has written on a slightly controversial topic everyone starts berating the site and him for being a noob. Nice huh :)
Dead_Cell  +   875d ago
I don't care what anybody else posts on previous articles. They've just posted shit, and should be shredded for it.
Hicken  +   874d ago
Where this article fails is in it's assumption that using a female avatar in a plotless online aspect is the same as writing the story for a female character.

It isn't.

The story was written in such a way that only a make protagonist makes sense. You couldn't arbitrarily put in a female character and have everything still work.

You're reaching. Whether you're the author or not, the parallel you're trying to posit just doesn't work.
Spoons  +   875d ago
I just don't get why GTA 5 having no female lead character immediately means sexism. There is a million reasons for that and Rockstar has already explained one.

EDIT: I love how there is a huge sexism bias in Red Dead and L.A. Noire. Are you forgetting the time those games were set in?
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Sketchy_Galore  +   875d ago
These cynical attempts at throwing others under the bus for 'sexism'/ 'racism' in order to drum up controversy and generate hits are not only stunting the growth of games as an artistic medium but are also helping to discredit racial and gender equality as social movements.

In short I know what this statement will get me and I consider it worth it. Fuck you and every lazy hack journalist like you. Fuck you and fuck the horses you all rode in on. Climb back on that horse, fuck off and go fuck yourself.
DamntaionEternal  +   875d ago
This IS N4G, incase you didnt notice even though this site is about gaming, Only news about XBOX One,PS4 and GTA V make it to the top. Meaning the ladder is heavily biased so you can hardly blame a writer for going with the flow. I doubt he would even have gotten 50 Degrees of heat for writing a sensible article on another gaming topic.
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Dead_Cell  +   875d ago
No, you CAN blame the writer. Nobody else makes them upload articles with sensationalist headlines and if they valued their integrity they wouldn't pander to bullshit eye-grabs.

Small website. small brain.
GarrusVakarian  +   875d ago
Bubbled you up for well said. ;)
kingdip90  +   875d ago
Authors sad attempt at seeing controversy where there is none
-EvoAnubis-  +   875d ago
"So if GTA has such a Male Centric story, why does GTA Online, an almost Mirror Image of GTA V, have a female character?"

Because there is no story in the GTA Online; you just play it. Which is freaking obvious.

I get that this is an opinion piece and I should treat it as such, but it's an idiotic opinion - so I'm treating it as such.
cyborg47  +   875d ago
Opinion piece, just another way of saying 'I'll write whatever the F I'd want to, deal with it.'
RE_L_MAYER  +   875d ago
Rockstar is just too weak to create a strong female character
GamePeace  +   874d ago
Sad but true... not! Even worser. Sexsells are not the most intelligent way to bring the product to the customers, if it was not the GTA community. This Kind of human loves dirty Content, it cannot breath without. A twisted, pathetic mass of creaming flesh... sadly...

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