Techland:There’s an Edge story picking up steam about the PlayStation 4 being “around 50% faster” than the Xbox One. There’s no question about it if you ask Edge — the author of the piece doesn’t even bother to use the word “allegedly.”
Hey this is what devs around the world are saying. They would know better than anyone if the power difference is true. It's true.
I guess all the questions will be answered once both consoles are in the market, but it doesn't matter that studios are not created equally,facts are still facts
M$ talked about the deference between xbone and ps4 over and over while sony lets the devs do the talking so who do we believe? MS or SONY
I wouldn't be skeptical at all. Numbers don't lie. Either way, the PS4 is clearly the stronger box.
I'm trying to understand how shutting our eyes to the truth will make us more informed. Being skeptical about water being wet won't make the water less wet. http://n4g.com/news/1353541... http://www.gamechup.com/war... http://n4g.com/news/1263235... http://n4g.com/news/1304933... @ golding89 below: How are you getting internet in a cave?
article states not all dev teams are created equal as a backup to their point.. which is very true but then I think hold on Sony have arguably the best gaming studio in naughty dog.. Then the most creative in media molecule then the genius that is David cage..
"devs around the world are saying"? Where around the world? Who? What devs? Really? It's logics like this one that makes people doubt this 50% stuff..
@mewhy... devs dont know power, they know skill. some devs are better skilled than others and they can translate their skill into a representation of power by way of their product. i have seen things done on lesser hardware that should not have even been possible but because of really good skills.....they made it happen.
I wonder if you are gonna be so passionate about your ps4 after both console come out. Have you ever played Xbox ? Any of them ? You can't deny the great innovations that Microsoft has brought to the consoles. @xheavyx
50%? Come on guys. If there is a 50% difference we would clearly see it, even at this stage yes. 30% is even unlikely. Forza is probably the best looking launch title (I Know it doesnt have dynamic wheather etc.) but still Forza does not look anywhere near 50% less and its at 60fps. Devs arent even saying that there is a 50% difference. that was one source that said the GPU was 50% more powerful. I think you guys are getting carried away with yourselves. I dislike MS as much as the next guy, but everything is going to be pretty similar, nowhere near 50%.
"That, and this “report” compiles quotes from anonymous development sources — that alone should give anyone pause. Indies? Major studios? First-timers?" -Exactly, the fact they won't say who at this stage of the game is ridiculous, also it all sounds questionable when they go the fanboy way and say 1 version will be gimped/castrated because devs shipped pc versions all last gen that were superior, at times 360 version shipped a bit better, and when the original xbox shipped most games better than the competition, no one flinched, ps2 owners didnt care, I think FF ps3 version this gen was one of the games that shipped noticeably alot better on ps3, so why cant they ship a better ps4 version? BS on edge part.
@Redwin " You can't deny the great innovations that Microsoft has brought to the consoles." What!? Innovations? You mean the first Kinect that didn't work? Or the new one that is supposed to work perfectly, even though the videos for the Fighter Within are still laggy? Or do you mean the innovation Box One that lets you watch TV using your TV? Or their innovative first party studios that haven't come up with a new Hardcore IP for the last 4 years?
So my PC with an HD 7950 is over 55% more powerful than the PS4? Good to know. I guess we don't need to know anything else aside from the amount of compute units in the GPU (28 in my HD 7950 vs 18 in the PS4 and 12 in the Xbox One). Other hardware and software considerations don't matter it seems.
I really don't get why people are still acting confused. On paper it's flat out clear. Forza Dev says "It's like comparing a 400hp M3 or a 500hp Mustang." No, it's comparing a "400hp M3 with a 600hp M3" since they use the same AMD architecture on the CPU and GPU. The GPU is faster on the PS4 and the memory widens that gap even further. It's the silliest argument I've ever seen.
You know with all of the talks about MS and direct X saying it will reduce the gap, I didn't realize that the PS4 also supports the app... http://i.imgur.com/GQ60CyZ....
I see the misguided comments which are pro-Sony just keep coming in. @xHeavYx If you cant see the new things that MS brought to the table with the xbox brand you are blind. The PS4s "50% power advantage" (doubt it) will not equate to games that are 50% better. I'd hang my hat on that. For an example someone else pointed out that might sink in for you are the games that have already been shown. The best looking game on the PS4 (seems to be KZ) is nowhere near 50% better looking then the top X1 games, not even close. I'll give you 10%, and thats very debatable. They will get better you say? So will the X1's Lets give Naughty Dog 4-5 years and see what turns up, then you can talk. But you know what the key point is? 4-5 years. Who cares
@mistertwoturbo This is where you are wrong. PS4 and XO don't have same architecture. It's completely different. PS4 went safe this time and made it straighforward, like a pC. XO is more custom build this time around. Their GPU was custom built TOGETHER with AMD (it's a dual driver gpu spread across the SoC, that's why there is no real specs, coz there is more than one GPU unit) and they've paid billions for it. Go research more about XO architecture, it is a beast/ If you think games like Ryse could be pulled of on this 1.3Tflop you are silly. Trust me, there is more to it than basic paper specs. Let the games do the speaking.
i guess its not a surprise to find You here defending the PS4 xHeavYx ... You seem to pop up in every and any X1 Vs PS4 article slating the X1. You can't make Your own candle brighter by putting out other peoples mate...
Can't wait to get my hands on the PS4, and experience the true power
Devs are just talking Doo Doo! The PS4 may have a power and speed edge but what Gamers need to ask is: How will this translate into Bigger and better Games and then ask for video of said games running in REAL TIME that show the difference in Power and speed vs. the XB1? Other than that I'm sick of the HYPE! It's beyond stupid. Show me the FRIGGIN PROOF by showing me the GAMES!! This goes for Sony and MS! I'm sick of Specs and Cheap insults. Where are the Games cause I'm NOT impressed with either consoles Launch line-up. Titanfall and Knack both look cool with SLIGHTLY new gameplay but after that NOTHING mind blowing even though XB1/PS4 can Cure Cancer and Teraform Mars.
Yes, if multiplatforms look the same what's the point of all that power? 1st party will be awesome but we want to eat the whole cake!
Ryse is proof! So is Forza 5 running at 1080p in 60fps, whereas the competition Driveclub runs at 30fps.
Actually [email protected] Since PS3 has this program (stopped in 2012), [email protected] Reference: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1... So techinally, Sony didn't cure cancer but the PS3 was able to help with other deceases. Now teraforming Mars, thats Google's responsbility.
@nukeitall And what is the competitor during that Forza 5 is not. Well it has dynamic lighting/shadows that affect almost all objects. It has a day/night cycle and weather effects. It also has richer and bigger environments. And then you might ask why are these things important? Well because Forza 5 is supposed to be a next-gen sim racer whereas DC is more of an arcade yet it's providing a more realistic experience than Forza 5 is supposed to. iirc the sun doesn't shine all day long everywhere. GT5 and 6 do all of this and more at 1080p 60fps so it's not impossible. Fair enough they weren't launch games. This just shows you that Forza 5 is targeting performance over features whereas DC is doing the opposite. Look at how the light reflects on the road here --> http://communityteam.softwa... and also how the dash reflects on the left window ---> http://communityteam.softwa...
Dont have to look into the future for that. You can look at current gen to see this. PS3 first party exclusives >>>>> Xbox 360 first party excluisves What make you think the next gen will be any different? Sony still have their first party studios and xbox 360 still have their first party studio. Understand this, game quality is only limited by the hardware they are built on.
Haha, poor XBone. Another 10% slower and XBone would be competing with WiiU instead of PS4 :D
Someone must payed for that guy to make this blog about he doesn't beleieve it's 50. This defintely what DEVELOPERS say 50%. PS4TW! EDIT: The problem with Xbots they won't accept ever that PS4 is better than Xbone never and ever until they see it in front of there own eyes after like 2-3 years(Know that at begining of next gen you may not notice the difference but later after 2-3 years the difference will be big really big) Then after they see it some of them(at least) will regret that they bought Xbone and trusted MS instead of buying PS4 and end it at the begining. Now we know 1st party developers and companys making exclusives(from 3rd Party and/or Indie) for Sony will take full adventege of this while multiplat games will look better on PS4. They will accept this until they see it and some(at least) will regret.
Seeing Xbots right here in this thread they are still in deniel THIS IS NOT PS3 VS X360! THIS IS PS4 VS XBONE! Sure PS3 yes that PS3 had better specs but still looked equally or inferior to X360 in terms of multiplats(not all but alot multiplats) but that was because PS3 was hard to code for while X360 was easy to code. This time is different this time PS4 has better specs and easy to code than Xbone. Don't be in deniel or you will regret it.
@ZHZ90...lol why do you Sony fans keep believing this garbage? Now I'm not saying the X1 will be better than the PS4, but I think it will be just as good especially the overall experience. "Someone must payed for that guy to make this blog about he doesn't believe it's 50. This definitely what DEVELOPERS say 50%"....So which developers (that actually matters) are saying the PS4 is 50% more powerful? Can you name one and post the link? (and don't give me that EX-DEVELOPER from People Can Fly) No you can't because all of these bullsh** articles won't give us the name of the source or developers they got this from. P.S. Who post a comment to their own comment..lol
@marecelliuss11, I commented on myown comment was because I couldn't edit it anymore now for the rest No I won't bother to bring you links, you go Google it on Google because even if I bought you links you will still be in deniel and yes you already know who they are. You want someone who makes games for both to say why? Because if someone who makes games for both like Konami or EA will anoy MS if he said that PS4 is more powerful than Xbone. As for the garbage, the garbage thing is you, Xbox fanboys, in deniel. Btw I am not a Sony fan and I am not loyal to brand, I am just fan and loyal to games and right now Sony did things better and right. Enjoy your cloud.
@ZHZ90....Wow just Wow...lol "No I won't bother to bring you links, you go Google it on Google because even if I bought you links you will still be in deniel and yes you already know who they are." The reason you won't bother to provide a link is because you can't find one to backup what you're saying because if one existed (trust me) you would've posted it. Then you try to point the finger at me and call me a fanboy when its clear you're the fanboy. Everyone of your post in this thread so far has fanboy written all over it. Now I understand you want to stand on the sidelines and root for your favorite company (Sony), but do you really have to fall in line with everyone else and spread possible lies instead of thinking for yourself? Unlike you I'm am not a fanboy. I wish Microsoft, Nintendo, and Sony much success in the new gen. I bought my Wii-U back in November and planning on getting the X1 first this holiday, and the PS4 in June for my birthday because I cant afford both right now. So I'm not going to choose sides like you and miss out on all of the great games that are coming in the near future. P.S. I will enjoy my cloud from Microsoft and Sony thank you very much.
No I can bring the links but I am not going to waste my energy for it because you'll still be in deniel and we already saw that btw. Also seems that you are wealthy to own both consoles 900$/Euros + Games + Taxes. Anyways no I am not favoring Sony nor PS, I am favoring gaming.
"Here’s something you can take to the bank: not all development studios are created equal, nor are they equally proficient with new hardware." Does he think we are all retarded. He is not even addressing the issue. You cant blame this hardware gap on bad developers its a hardware issue. The post about the gap states in so many words that bad developers can do more on PS4 because of the hardware gap and ease of development. Which means that good developers can do more on PS4 due to the hardware gap and ease of development. Numbers don't lie. Specs are black and white because you can do the math to see which has the advantage, and when it comes to good developers their will be a noticeable difference when the gap is this big. If the gap was smaller this would be a non issue, but its not. If it were only half that at 25% that is still huge when you are trying to compete.