House: "LCD panel can now realise an image quality as high as that of the OLED"
The difference is minor
I guess we'll have to wait until it launches to see some good comparisons.
Doubt Sony would make that statement if they couldnt back it up.
Really? You doubt that a massive corporation would make a statement they couldn't back up? Companies, yes even Sony, lie.
Never said Sony can't lie, I just question why they would lie about this when they know there will be dozens of comparison vids by the end of the year that will attempt to verify their story. If the LCD screen was TRULY inferior, then there would be damage control statement from Sony reiterating that the Vita 2000 is a "casual device meant for casual gamers".
just because the old screen was OLED doesn't make it better than LCD in every category and generation. I think the original IS better but not by a noticeable margin, those who want it better get them while they can. the early Vita adopters get to have the better screen.
@LOGICWINS Well said, tired of people assuming this LCD is crap or that Sony would actually put a screen in the new Vita that looks significantly worse than the current one. They chose this new screen for a reason because whether you crazy OLED fanatics want to accept that, LCD's are competing with these screens now. I won't say the OLED doesn't look great either but I am not stupid enough to think LCD's are still using the same basic technology they have been since back in the days. That is even more illogical if you think that.
Id like to know about the sensitivity and especially the scratch resistance. Would it use the gorilla glass that most smartphones use to prevent being scratched????
I still believe the OLED is superior by a margin. TV with OLED is 5 times more expensive than one's with LCD screen and, truly, OLED is sharper and games such as Dragon's Crown or Muramasa looks much much beautiful compared to playing it on the TV. But if I were a guy still planning to buy this i guess cheaper LCD version, I wouldn't worry too much. Atleast i get to have a Vita and play its games.
I love how everyone is assuming it's that much cheaper. Did you even read all of this article, on top of the added fact you can't just completely compare Japanese prices and assume it will cost the same in other places just based on conversions. If it cost $200 in NA are people still going to act like it is worse even if its priced the same as the OLED? No one knows how much it costs other than in Japan. About the only argument I see many making is LCD is cheaper, so its worse which is not the case or even makes sense. Just because something might be cheaper to make doesn't automatically make it worse by default, just makes its cheaper to make. I could throw many real world examples out there if you would like of many cheaper priced products that perform just the same as higher priced ones or better.
What I want to know is the price.
Are the back "grips" different on the 2.0 ?
That's what I've always heard. But it is fun to see Sony backtracking on this, as the OLED screen being "superior" to LED was one of the (only) major selling points for the Vita when it launched. The big different I'd always heard was the burn-in was less likely to occur on an OLED screen. But I'm not sure how much of an issue that is. I've been using screens of all types since the days of MS-DOS, and owned dozens of portable consoles and LCD monitors, and I don't think I've ever seen burn-in in my entire life. At least on stuff I own/use. EDIT: And the other thing I hear about is brightness... but I always keep my Vita at between 0% and 60%, anyway, so....
We will be getting one, will we not , smeagol? Yes y-yes we will. .
I have no problem going to LCD, but they should have upped the screen rez, 960 x 544 is lower than my phone, should be at least been 720p
That would make it more expensive, not cheaper.
The screen is so small, they don't need to do that. Cell phones saying "720P" are full of it. I mean come on, its cell phone companies. They throw in all kinds of useless stuff just to say their phone is better than last months phone.
I thought the res was fine and the oled more than made up for it. There other aspects that make a great screen and we will see if they made the right choice moving to LCD technology. At the end of the day I will probably own both. Unless of course the oled version is vastly suprerior then I will buy another oled model.
First World problems, amigo.
it didn't take long for the damage control to start but we are not idiots... Or at least I'd like to think that most people aren't.
Most people are gullible, sorry. But I think we should give them a chance to prove that they made the right decision. They've done pretty much exactly what some of us were predicting. Their decisions have been mostly practical/reasonable.
You seem to be, cause you seem to be dead set on proving LCD's can't look just as good when its been proving time and time again they can actually look better than OLED now.
Take the iPhone 5 for example, it has one of the best looking screens anyone has seen and guess what type of screen it is? LCD.
Stop trying to justify something that doesn't really matter to you. If you care that much about it simply keep your OLED Vita, stop trying to degrade the progress made with LCD's though because they have come a long way compared to the ones you are thinking of.
People people if it bothers you, go buy one with an OLED.
I feel there are people out there that want the LCD screen to be bad to further justify their decision to buy a Vita early on.
Whats wrong with that... it feels good for once to not feel ripped off cause those pics I seen yesterday looked bad not horrible but bad.. I love how they have a variety of colors now though, its about damn time
@buynit It's been one year and a half since I bought my PSV and I've never felt ripped, I think I paid a fair price, if you don't, you should have wait for price drops or buy a used unit. And just fyi the LCD screen looks great, http://www.youtube.com/watc... http://www.youtube.com/watc... , just like @LOGICWINS said people is only bitching at it for no reason
You sony fanatics are a fucking dedicated bunch! When the hell did I say I felt ripped off? I said Im glad I DONT feel ripped off for once for buying early.. God you idiots are quick to go on a damn rampage! The only thing u got me on is being selfish in wanting my original vita to still be the better choice.. and the pics I seen yesterday looked really yellow so its not bitching over nothing if the pic quality isnt the same. But I couldnt care less cause all I liked was the colors and thats no big deal cause I can custom paint mine when ever I want.
I do not own a vita yet but planning on picking up the oled version soon. Blacks and colors look so much better on oled vs LCD.
as i said in another thread: vibrant does not mean it's better. and the thing about blacks is that most people don't know what they're talking about when it comes to black levels. people seem to think that your screen has to be really dark in order for your blacks to be good. the reality is, you don't want your blacks to be that dark otherwise it ends up being crushed, and you lose a *lot* of detail. case in point: the last of us has a MP map that takes place at night. people avoid that map because they think it's "too dark". i have a properly calibrated TV, i've played that map, it's nowhere near as dark as people claim. those people complaining simply have their TVs set too dark/contrast too high/etc. the LCD screen is perfectly capable of getting nice, dark blacks without losing all of that detail as well as having nice, colour without boosting the contrast too high (which is why colours on screens look like they "pop"). i did not notice any real difference in the black levels or the intensity of the colour on the screen comparisons we saw yesterday. and quite frankly, i'm more concerned with the colour/blacks being true/accurate than vibrant/dark. which is why (and i'll say this again) i would kill to be able to calibrate my vita screen to get it as close to D65 as i can.
Yes, Black Crush/Clipping can happen on the VITA and that destroys dark details. I personally don't want that. Since "black" remains very dark on the OLED (opposed to "gray" in LCD), outdoor/high ambient lighting performance is affected specially on a dark setting in games. If I can, I'd happily trade in my VITA OLED screen for a decent enough LCD but I want to keep the premium gen 1 VITA design (except for Start/Sel buttons)
"New PS Vita LCD screen 'not inferior to OLED', insists Sony" Well, they should know.
If it's the same resolution as the OLED then I wouldn't worry too much.
The only difference really is just the color density and Saturation. But you are not going to really notice a difference unless you actually have both screens next to each playing the same game. If the LCD screen makes it cheaper, then you cant complain.
So glad they have come out and said this. All the people that told me I was a moron yesterday to think any LCD could ever compete with OLED. Well you will be proven wrong. As I have pointed out just because OLED produce an over saturated image that people prefer, it doesn't necessarily make it an accurate representation of the colors displayed. From what I saw in the UC image the LCD produces more natural accurate colors, glare or not, because a glare is not going to distort the OLED screen to the point it would make it change colors, I have played UC on the Vita and I know it has the green hue every where especially in that part that was shown. I just get called an idiot though because I do pay attention to the actual advancements in technology, not just the advancements in what I use. If you haven't seen or used new LCD screens, then simply don't bother trying to justify it will look worse. People as usual with their very minimalistic knowledge on tech period are all making a huge deal of something they obviously don't even understand. Which I had said is a problem here on n4g but I guess that is the internet for you. Gives every person even the misinformed the right to give opinions on matters even if they have no real concept of it.
It's not a right--it's a sacred and solemn responsibility.
You can buy either one. LCD will be cheaper too. I don't see a problem here.
oled vs lcd MEH! vita tv is betta
Nintendo: Oh no! Our new handheld is failing! Let's hurry up and drop the price, and release a new, superior model! And then beef up game development so we can launch at least one high-quality game, per month, forever. Sony: Oh no! Our new handheld is failing! Let's hurry up and drop the price, and release a new, superior model! And then call it a day. ... EDIT: Sony is once again emulating the competition, but--as was the case with their motion controls and in-game XMB integration--it's a pale imitation unlikely to produce the same results. They really need to get cracking. I want more games for my Vita. More, you hear me--MORE!
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