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Submitted by CustardTrout 370d ago | article

PS4 vs. Xbox One comparison comments from devs compiled, most agree PS4 has the edge

We've gathered up a bunch of comments from tweets, interviews and keynotes that compare the PlayStation 4 to the Xbox One. (Dev, PS4, Xbox One)

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DirtyPimp  +   370d ago | Well said
its a fact
UltimateMaster  +   370d ago | Well said
PS4 is that best.
It's for the gamers.
ZHZ90  +   370d ago
Not to mention PS4TW!
It has most of adventeges that real gamers need.
xHeavYx  +   370d ago
The PS4 was built with developers input, and its main focus is games instead of gimmicks, no doubt Playsation will win at the end
theBAWSE   370d ago | Personal attack | show
u got owned  +   370d ago
Meh! This is getting old.

The PS4 is more powerful. Both are a big leap in technology. Both are great consoles. Just play the games.
tokugawa   370d ago | Off topic | show
JokesOnYou  +   370d ago | Well said
pffft the headline doesnt even match the content in the article, actually the dev comments are more neutral.

lol, cutting my wrists OK seems like you care awww how sweet. Whats funny is even in an article trying to say that so many devs have said ps4 is more powerful none were committed to it in terms of real world performance. Also these are all OLD qoutes BEFORE micro tweak upgraded GPU and CPU specs. Yep all these comments were discussed awhile ago on n4g. Why no comments from devs since upgrades?

1st Jonathan Blow says he was "told" that there was a extreme performance difference.= The guy hates micro and did not name one solid reference hardly proof.

All the others (John Carmack, a unnamed dev and Avalanche Studio devs/Just Cause) didnt say anything definitive they said raw specs on paper but even further elaborated that performance was very close, even mentioning how great X1 games look in comparison.

Finally Adrian Chmielarz is on record saying his 50% speed comments were related to development time, which he said will of course be improved upon now that micro is done with hardware and have great dev tools.

-Again nowhere have I said in my history of comments or in this comment that X1 is more powerful than ps4, what I've said is I doubt that there will be a significant performance difference based on the specs and X1's eSRAM and now with recent upgrades Im sure of it, I stand by those statements and none of the devs who have DEVELOPED GAMES FOR BOTH have said theres is a significant performance difference in fact the few on record like Carmack and Just Cause devs have actually said they are "very close" or "there are many factors besides raw specs".= I'm sure some will hit disagree but none of the above things I highlighted from devs is my opinion its FACTS.

So hmmm should I believe an industry vet like Carmack or a bunch of fanboys?
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Maddens Raiders  +   370d ago
65 days 'til greatness begins.
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DatNJDom81  +   370d ago
Wow....... he really is cutting his wrist.......
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2cents  +   370d ago
@JokesOnYou

You know, I was avoiding reading this article because I suspected that it may be 'cleverly' edited. But I just clicked and read them all and I have to agree with you.

Very professional comments, and very unbiased opinions. I hope that some of this attitude could rub off on more people, its a much nicer way of continuing the never ending gaming debates that we all know and love (or hate).
mewhy32  +   370d ago
Cant dispute the hard facts. The PS4 is the most powerful console ever conceived period. I don't know why people get so upset over that? It's more powerful than the bone but if you still want the bone then fine get one. Just do it knowing that micro$oft is charging you 100.00 more for inferior hardware. But hey, if you're loyal to micro$oft and that fact doesn't matter because you love Halo or something then by all means get the bone.
darthv72  +   370d ago
@madden. and then 7 days later...god takes a break to play the xb1.

lol
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dmitrijs88  +   370d ago
PS4 will be PS2 V2 in terms of success.
QuickdrawMcgraw  +   370d ago
Joke you are no different then anyone else.You will believe whoever talks up your console of choice.
JokesOnYou  +   370d ago
Quickdraw, NO actually I don't, for example if I did I would be touting the cloud as gaming heaven and the reason X1 is more powerful but Im not. Did you see my comments in reference to the 12gb of ram?, How about the dggpu rumors? lol never believe any of it for a second, WHY because it sounded unreasonable/like wishful thinking and check my history thats what I said then. I'm also careful not to believe the overhype of ANY KIND from either side but at the same time I'm not foolish enough to believe micro is investing tons of money in the cloud if it was useless AND now sony has even done the "me too" type comments in regards to the cloud. So go ahead label me, call me out whatever just call me consistent because for me it's always about reasonable expectations NOT pure belief in a company.

I learned my lesson that most PR is half truths mixed with a lil bit of wishful thinking and a whole lot of "depends on the implementation" in other words nobodys outright lying but high ambitions sometimes just aren't acheivsble..YET. The original Kinect, the cell, bluray are all good examples of this. Some folks always see evil intentions but I really do believe those engineers working tirelessly to bring us this tech to market really have the best intentions and if its yoir "baby" you've work so hard on sometimes for years of course those "theoretical specs", "potential/promises" , "ideas/predictions" become very real to you, unfortunately despite your efforts all that potential may not bear fruit. Maybe next time, but who says the suits are going to continue to fund it?..or maybe it was always just a few engineers/devs/creative directors pipe dream.= Thats why I wait, thats why I TRY not spew misinformation.

I can tell you however X1 does have the games me, my friends, and my family like the most and I won't lose 1min of sleep because ps4 is more powerful because I'll still enjoy my games. Now with that said and ps4 somehow is pulling off games that are simply not possible on X1 then of course I'll be jealous frankly I'm positive that won't happen but regardless its not like if you've ever read my comments that I wont be getting a ps4 at some time or another anyway.
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pixelsword  +   369d ago
"So hmmm should I believe an industry vet like Carmack or a bunch of fanboys?"

I appreciate Carmack's contribution to the gaming world, but Carmack isn't the best one for an overall stable comment concerning consoles, since early one he said was against the PS3 before he was for it latter in the console cycle (or am I thinking of Gabe? I think they both did that, though).

He can turn a PC and some code into a masterpiece, and no one can debate that.
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cruncher_20  +   370d ago
Well I LOVE playstation but I tried to keep me critical thinking every time console are compared by dev. Why?

Well if :

They develop exclusively on ps4 they will say ps4 is the best
They develop exclusively on Xbox they will say Xbox is the best

They develop for both... Well they have no interest of choosing one console over the other one and if they do I assume they have personal reason not because of the technology but because of rights, fees, etc which doesn't really affect the player.
NewMonday  +   370d ago
never came across any developer comment that states the XB1 is more powerful in any way in comparison to the PS4.
cruncher_20  +   370d ago
I didn't say more powerful I said best... best could mean more powerfull but best could also imply : easier to develop on, easier to publish, the partnership is incredible..., implementation with their accessories open tons of possibility, exclusivity, the company approach, online support, etc...

And if you NEVER came across developers... well here an exemple : TURN 10 (forza 5 dev) said that Xbox cloud allowed them to boost AI at 600% which was not possible before...
imt558  +   370d ago
The multiplatform developers and indie will say that PS4 is better.
vigilante_man  +   370d ago
We now know PS4 has a bit more under the hood. We do not fully know just how much yet.

This is just a re-hash article. No news here..
cruncher_20  +   370d ago
The multiplatform developers and indie will say that PS4 is better.

That is my f****g point....

Ah... useless ... I like the ps3 and will get a ps4 but people here are just fanboy that don't want any debate...

some Indies will say ps4 is best because sony facilitate the business side but at the end that doesn't really change the experience for the player... multiplatform developers have financial interest when they define "best" but at the end both console will have a similar game...

If you prefer me saying that it is God that put ps4 and ALL indies dev and ALL multi dev prefer ps4 that's your opinion... I prefer Sony but I played multi on different console and don't see much difference and the same thing will happen for ps4 and xboxOne...
NewMonday  +   370d ago
I said "in comparison to the PS4"

someone in NeoGaf put it beast:

"Originally Posted by IN&OUT

Is X1 a powerful console? Yes, it is.

Is X1 more powerful than PS4? HELL NO

Why X1 is weaker than PS4?

MS designed X1 to be perfectly balanced and powerful according to THEIR vision.

It's just happen to be that Sony was more ambitious (regarding power) and they were able to outdo MS efforts in this area"
B1663r  +   370d ago
So with an obvious and clear advantage, it shouldn't take long to see the results. The advantage will be clear day one.
gapecanpie  +   370d ago
Both systems are a joke... Its 2013 and yet battlefield is 720p with medium graphics settings, that's just pathetic.

You FANBOYS remind me of clown's. The only thing these systems got going for them are their exclusive games which is a matter of personal taste.

Every time both sides bring up specs it just make the lot of you look dumb.
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devwan  +   370d ago
If BF4 is running poorly that's a problem for the devs, not a problem of the hardware. Both Microsoft and Sony have shown much more impressive examples of games than what you suggest.

Whatever, you can't expect maximum performance day one on consoles, that's not how it works.
mediate-this  +   370d ago
Lol... P.C wont matter till titanfall comes out on xbone. Then p.c will get all the praise. When they are done with titanfall it will be back to harping the p.c and the xbone.
Hicken  +   370d ago
When you put an apostrophe in the plural form of "clowns," I think that does more to damage the opinion of YOUR intelligence than anyone else's.

Please, change your name. You're an embarrassment to Georgians, pecans, and pies.
clearelite  +   370d ago
Yet Killzone Shadow fall Multiplay will run at 1080p 60 FPS and Planetside 2 will rival high end PC gameplay. Therefore any Battlefield issue is most likely an optimization issue at this point.

I do think people could probably stop comparing specs so much and focus more overall game quality. All of the next gen hardware is more than powerful enough for devs to create AMAZING games.
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gapecanpie  +   368d ago
Dude are you tracking my every post, do you not have a life outside of n4g? Also for your information my phone has a f**ked up auto correct and I didn't expect any internet grammar Nazi to cry over something so little.

Oh and lmao at your Georgia comment as Georgia has some of the lowest test scores in the country, so Georgia do just fine in making itself look bad.

P.S. For Gods sakes get a life and stop tracking me, there is a whole big world beyond your computer. Oh and sorry I replied so late but I actually have a life
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otherZinc  +   370d ago
What is the developers name or company that's running their game 1080p "native" @60fps? Also, what next gen console is said game or 1080p "native" 60fps games running on?

XBOX ONE: Forza 5.

Does the PS4 have any?

See, talk is cheap, if the console is most powerful, show it, and stop running your mouth!
devwan  +   370d ago
Calm down otherZinc, no need for shouty ;-)

"1080P" can mean all kinds of things. "1080P native" means 1920x1080. I'm not sure FMS5 is running at that resolution, but we will find out in time.

There are a number of ways to approach screen resolution and refresh vs content detail and there are simple ways to achieve 1080P@60Hz gameplay, basically by keeping things on the simple side, less detail, less post processing, cutting corners and clever tricks that give the appearance of doing more than you are for example with lighting - all good stuff if done wisely as the gamer probably never really notices, but not always possible if you're looking to offer a particular effect (in the instance of lighting that might be day-night cycles).

There's no value in shouting 1080P@60 at people as proof of anything one way or the other. Unless it's the same game running side-by-side on different platforms then at least there's a debate to be had.
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dmitrijs88  +   370d ago
forza 5 is 1080P/60FPS with outdated effects/backgrounds. On PS4 it might be running at 100 FPS then.
XabiDaChosenOne  +   370d ago
resogun
AngelicIceDiamond  +   370d ago
I'm glad the PS4 will be amazing I know it will be. But devs as well as gamers are speaking in theory with performance albeit shoddy details.

Avalanche's Mad Max looks like a maxed out current generation game. I'm having a hard time seeing that game looking "worse on X1 and "prettier on PS4. When that game gets released that will be the trojan Horse of his statement, I will look for differences in performance and if the 50% differnce lives in there game.

EX developer's "People Can Fly" Adrian Chmielarz didn't go into further detail about PS4 being 50% more powerful. Other than his bleak statement. Not only did he not explain his statement he didn't give clues to back his statement, nor where it came from. He kind of came out of no where with it. Sorry, but even some devs aren't credible sources now.

Is he with a different studio creating new a new ip for PS4 and X1? And hes getting 50% better performance when compared to X1?

His comment is not backed by any facts or some sort of hint of evidence.

John Carmack's statement makes better sense as well as Hideo Kojima's http://www.examiner.com/art...

Ubisoft's Senior producer Dominic Guay http://gamingbolt.com/ubiso...

"Of course, the Xbox One isn’t to be counted out. We asked Guay how the Xbox One version of Watch_Dogs would be different compared to the PC and PS4 versions of the game, to which he replied that, “The Xbox One is a powerful platform, as of now we do not foresee a major difference in on screen result between the PS4 and the Xbox One. Obviously since we are still working on pushing the game on these new consoles, we are still doing R&D."

This was June 25 when X1 specs were still being finalized and worked on (also assuming PS4 as well.)

It's just funny how the reporter left Hideo Kojima and and Dominic Guay's comment out.

The difference will be in the games and multiplats that get released. Some devs say the PS4 is 50% more powerful while other say in theory it is, while the rest say its equal and around the same performance.

You can't take one piece of info (no matter how shady) and run with it especially if there's devs out there stating other wise.
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otherZinc  +   370d ago
@devwan,
@dmitrijs88,

You must have never played Forza, if you have, you would know they've NRVER cut corners!

It is very significant that Forza 5 is running 1080p "native" @60fps; that's massive!

The PS4 can't get Knack to run 1080p "native" @ 60fps. Now, what day/night cycle or lighting tricks are they running in a "cartoon" game that's so stressful?

Forza 5 1080p "native" @ 60fps; that's PC like power with effects on. Now stop your weak attempt at a play on words.
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AngelicIceDiamond  +   370d ago
http://kotaku.com/game-dev-...

Apparently Adrian Chmielarz did elaborate on his post amongst other things related to this.
ArchangelMike  +   370d ago
I've said it before, and I'll say it again... and again. the specs matter less. What the first party studios do with the machines is what is most important. And we all know which of teh two companies has the best first party studios. We also know which of the two know how to maximize their home console to deliver truly amazing games...
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JsonHenry  +   370d ago
It really shouldn't matter in the end. The only people who really care are brand loyalist fanboys. And they won't touch the other system anyway.

So the rest of us will make up our own minds regardless of what it looks like on paper and play the games we enjoy on the platform we choose.
vigilante_man  +   370d ago
It does matter - sorry to say. And for one reason only.

Last time around developers pimped 360 but gave half-hearted PS3 versions to multi-platform games. Maybe due to the Cell, or MS pressure, or laziness, or just quicker to do that. And most limited games to a single DVD.

Compare this to what PS3 gamers got with 1st party studios and full use of graphics and Bluray disc. They felt a bit short-changed.

This time we have the same CPU and both have 8GB Ram and Bluray drives so multi-platforms should look similar. So it is more important that PS4 is the more powerful so Sony gamers will get at least equal quality games this time.
thetruthx1  +   370d ago
Directx > OpenGL

Xbox controller > dual shock

Xbox One games > Ps4 games

Microsoft budget > Sony's budget

Xbox live infrastructure > PS +

Kinect > Move

:)
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DirtyPimp  +   370d ago | Well said
facts> your goddamn opinion
Kuse  +   370d ago
It's unfortunate for you because that guy just gave you a list of facts which are irrefutable. Xbox has better exclusives, better premium services, better value.

Also...do you live on these boards? I see you rage commenting on everything that speaks praise about Xbox One. Go outside...enjoy life.
Utalkin2me  +   370d ago
@Kuse

Read my below post. If you care to give some cold hard facts on why. Just cause someone puts Xbox controller > Ds4 controller, doesn't make it true. Explain to me what makes it better. And again i don't want your opinions, i want facts.
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UltimateMaster  +   370d ago
Fine:
FACTS:
PS4 dual shock > Xbox controller
More technology: Touch Pad, Motion Sensors, And a Goddamn built-in battery you DON'T have to pay extra for.

Ps4 games > Xbox games
Killzone Shadow Fall Pre-Orders Outsold Ryse SOR, Titanfall, Forza 5 AND Dead Rising 3 Combined. With just 1 game, check VGchartz

Sony's studios > Microsoft studios
Sony has more studios.

PS + > Xbox live infrastructure
Xbox Live infrastructure is based of windows 8, and ever since the release of windows 8, PC sales has never been this low in 30 years "Ever since it's release"... so you tell me

Average Rating and Reviews Move Enabled Game 8/10 > Any kinect games average of 5/10

ALL of theses are FACTs, they are Tangible, because you can evaluate them with Actual numbers and count them and scale them from one to the other.
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xHeavYx  +   370d ago
@Kuse
So much fail on your comment.
Xbox doesn't have better exclusives, you only say that because you like Xbox more, I like PS more, so PS has better exclusives, see how that works?
Better premium service? Again, that's your opinion, but as far as I know, PS+ runs over Gold, unless of course you can tell me, with facts, where I'm wrong.
Better value? How can a console who is $100 more expensive, yet less powerful, be a better value?
Angeljuice  +   370d ago
@DirtyPimp
I totally agree, but you're arguing with a "Bonehead" (in all senses of the word).
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scott182  +   370d ago
Opinions = facts now, good to know.
stevehyphen  +   370d ago
I had to funny bubble that, DirtyPimp. Oh man.

I'm normally against people arguing, but that was priceless.
hazardman  +   370d ago
Isn't that what its all about tho..our opinions. Sad you can't have one on here because people like you think yours is all that matters!!!
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devwan  +   370d ago
@hazardman Opinions are fine, they're what we want. Opinions stated as facts, not so useful.
mediate-this  +   370d ago
Lol
andreasx  +   370d ago
Haha, you're the man pimp!
QuickdrawMcgraw  +   370d ago
Opinions can also be fact.I think the Dual shock is better the the Xbox controller.A opinion which is a fact :)
gaelic_laoch  +   370d ago | Funny
You forgot the most important one!

PS4 > XbOne

Now stop sniffing gasoline and come back to reality!
Lukas_Japonicus  +   370d ago
Sony 1st party devs > MS 1st party devs

DS4 > One controller

PS4 price > Xbox One price

PS plus ("free" games that are actually good) > Xbox live (Old as dirt free games)

PS4 power > Xbox One power

PS4 value > Xbox One value

Sony's reputation of dedication to games and gamers > MS complete lack of support (360)

Oh i also forgot the fact that DEVELOPERS prefer the PS4, im sorry but devs don't lie.

@B-radical
Im talking about the issue of which console is more powerful, not games specifically.
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B-radical  +   370d ago
Yup devs dont lie look how good the new alien game looked...the devs of it never said a word
Volkama  +   370d ago
"PS4 price > Xbox One price "

This is mathematically incorrect. Just saying...
dannylilley  +   370d ago
What actually ends up happening > Your dumb assumptions about consoles that have yet to come out
Utalkin2me  +   370d ago
Well unfortunately your name really doesn't fit your comments. Maybe you should change your name to "MyOpinion". If you would care to elaborate on your opinion and give some nice facts. Then i might change my mind of some of your "opinions".
True_Samurai  +   370d ago
Let's not be bias about it OK? I'm getting X1 but I would punch someone in the face for DD and KZ
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ZHZ90  +   370d ago
You are right about MS's Budget > Sony's Budget but what about the rest...

OpenGl > DirectX (Because OpenGl is better is than DirectX and is also compatible with DirectX)

Dual Shock 4 > Xbox Controller

PS4 Games > Xbox Games (In terms of Quantity and Quality)

PS4 Price > Xbox One Price

PS+ > Xbox Live Infrastructure

Move > Kinect

Power Of PS4 > Power Of Xbox One

PS4 Preoders > Xbox One Preorders

Talent of Sony 1st Party Studios > Talent of MS 1st Party Studios

Sony launching PS4 in nations > MS launching Xbox One in nations (32+ > 13)

About Dedicated Servers for Xbox One > PS4 but in 2014 Gaikai will come and more in USA then PS4 > Xbox One

:)
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hazardman  +   370d ago
Nice list there.. when you say PS+ beats out XBL, do you mean like free games and not everything behind a paywall? Thats true, in terms of most reliable online service I would have to go with XBL.
Things could change next gen but I'm basing this off my experience with both thus far.

Also even with Gaikai. MS will still have a better network of dedicated servers than Sony.
BattleTorn  +   370d ago
Nice opinion you have there
Tapewurm  +   370d ago
@ "thetruthx1" and Kuse-

The only facts that are relevant here are that Sony has a sexier, more powerful machine, better 1st party studios, exclusive experiences made by those studios, and ultimately a better vision of where gaming needs to go for the future.
Jury  +   370d ago
Well said

Better first party studios and more of them and they are given more freedom
Nekroo91  +   370d ago
at xbox presentation xbox showed that the ps4 also supports directx 11.2 and opengl 4.4 does the same thing

controller its a matter of taste, now te dualshock is bigger than the X1 contollers

Ps4 exclusives have won gotys for some reason and not to mention studios like ND are recognized as the best studios in the gaming industry

PS4 better specs , cheaper price

Kinect...oh well at this point i think theres no doubt that the movement recognition still doesent work very well, but the voice recognition is a nice feature indeed
RM-TatoTiburon  +   370d ago
Xbox One Launch Line Up > PS4 Launch Line Up
Sony First Party Studios > Microsoft Fisrt Party Studios
PS4 Specs on Paper > Xbox One Specs on Paper
Xbox Live > PSN+ (Free Games doens't mean best SERVICE)
Kinect > PSEye+Move
Xbox One Features > PS4 Features
Xbox One OS > PS4 OS
Microsoft Cloud Service > Sony Cloud Service
Xbox One Controller > DS4
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Tapewurm  +   370d ago
@RM-Tato....

The launch lineup: is a matter of taste...killzone shadowfall and driveclub alone are better than anything the other system is offering, but that is my opinion.

PSN+ : is an excellent service and value....have never had any connectivity issues with it and the free games are icing on the cake.

Move/Kinect: In my experience of having the Move and Kinect... I honestly have to say that the Move had the best 1 to 1 motion tracking.....could hardly ever get the Kinect to be AS continually accurate as the Move.

Features, Cloud, and OS will be determined after the launch.

Controller: Have always preferred the dual shock...since the days for gran turismo 1...with all it's smooth ergonomic goodness...again...a matter of personal taste.

The better first party studios....well ...we all know that now don't we? :)
robleroy  +   370d ago
you are very sad or very blind..

Microsoft sadly is known for building not stable products (software and hardware).
But MS is also known for having the best market specialist and tactics.

The first xbox360 was overall the more expensive console (no wifi, no bluray and xbox live needed to play online, RROD) . But they managed to make the public believe otherwise.

The same goes for the windows and office packages.

They are just awesome at selling.

And please do spare me the part that the xbox live service was better then the free PSN service then.

Sony is just known for quality products.
Sony wants the customer to buy their products because of the quality.

MS wants to just make a lot of money in little less time. (right after the launch of the xbox360, they dumped the support for the xbox. The same will go for the xbox360 (RYSE was originaly for the xbox360 ...any exclusive titles lately for the 360???)

MS just does not care about what the customer wants and think of them. (DRM, no second hand game playability ,etc etc)
QuickdrawMcgraw  +   370d ago
How do we know that the launch line up games are better on one system then another.I have read no reviews and have not played any of the finished launch games yet.And as for the cloud services I have had no experience with those either.So RM could you please tell me what you liked about the Xbox1 launch games.And what you enjoyed most about the Xbox cloud service that has made you chose it over Sony's service.
pyramidshead  +   370d ago
Lol you're pulling out all the stops on most articles very recently. Probably massive damage control from wanting that dGPU so badly ;o.

Keep going though it makes for a good read of the comment section ;).
Jury  +   370d ago
@thetruth

I see you have one of those ironical usernames
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joeorc  +   370d ago
@thetruthx1

Directx > OpenGL

http://i.imgur.com/GQ60CyZ....

Xbox controller > dual shock

Your Opinion = Not a Fact

Xbox One games > Ps4 games

Your Opinion = Not a Fact

Microsoft budget > Sony's budget

Hey Most Likely This one is true! I will agree with that one.

Xbox live infrastructure > PS +

Your Opinion = Not a Fact

Kinect > Move

funny, which out of the Two is able to be used with First Person Shooter's and Do it well for being accurate? you know the Answer. and its not Kinect or Kinect 2. Pretty Ironic, for a company that built their system core functionality based on a Motion control system, a "what many gamer's call a After thought, and just a copy of the WiiMote" is the best motion control system out of the three for a FPS type game.
dmitrijs88  +   370d ago
Your logic < Logic of majority of people.
sigfredod  +   370d ago
Grabbing my popcorn waiting for all the comments from the people that known that Xbone is better over the developers that actually have the hardware on their hands and are currently using it and working on it
Kuse  +   370d ago
Article title is misleading, there's like one or two quotes that say the PS4 has an advantage and it's from developers I haven't heard of before, take what you see with a grain of salt.

The differences between the consoles hardware/graphic's won't be as great as many are thinking.
vigilante_man  +   370d ago
That's just it we do not really know. But we have only heard developers say that PS4 is either easier or more powerful (or both) to develop for. But we have not heard multi-platform developers say XB1 is the more powerful.

Plus Sony have said that PS4 is the most powerful console and MS have been trying to squeeze extra juice (CPU & GPU speed increases) to keep up.

And the specs so far would indicate PS4 has raw power advantage. It has been built for pure gaming. XB1 has been built for gaming and TV and social media, etc. They are both powerful compared to 360/PS3. No real surprises here.
Daz  +   370d ago
So John Carmack said there both very close
One says its 50% faster then xbox.

who is right?
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DirtyPimp  +   370d ago
very close is subjective. a bicycle could be considered as powerful as a ferrari because they get you to the same place you want to go. ps4 being the faster ferrari.
Daz  +   370d ago
i'm not the brightest person but you comparing a car to a bike lol
That sounds stupid.

Utalkin2me
i think comparing a 400 hp car to a 800 is better
comparison.
But what it the 400hp car is tuned to the max to perform better with the stuff it has?

800 still leads but not by much.
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Utalkin2me  +   370d ago
Well he kind of goofed that up, but i know what he meant. If you had 2 ferrari's one with a supercharged V8 engine and the other with just a V6. They both are flashy and fast and look the same, but one is going to be faster from start to finish.

@Daz
But a well tuned V8 is still going to be substantially better then a well tuned v6.
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CrimsonStar  +   370d ago
Lol wow that was one of the worst comments I have ever read , You just took your fanboism to a whole knew level .
Angeljuice  +   370d ago
@Daz @Utalkin2me

His analogy wasn't goofed up at all. Both a Ferrari and a bike have the same 'power' (to take you from A to B), but the Ferrari does it much faster.
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Angeljuice  +   370d ago
Edit: Double Post
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AnteCash  +   370d ago
he said himself he didnt do ANY benchmarking with x1 or p4.
5h4h4b  +   370d ago
Carmack also said he didn't do benchmarking on them. Please try to give complete statements.
Daz  +   370d ago
you are so defensive its ridiculous. I for one just going to wait and see because i haven't seen this 50% people talk of.

Has the other guy done benchmarking or his he just macking numbers up?
you seem to know it all so plz tell me?
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5h4h4b  +   370d ago
We have developers saying ps4 is more powerful than x1. Specs tell ps4 is more powerful. Tell me one third party developer that says x1 is more powerful than ps4. Heck, most of third party games were shown on ps4. Why aren't they shown on x1. Bf4 was at least shown on ps4. Where is bf4 for x1??
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Daz  +   370d ago
i know the ps4 more powerful have i said its less powerful then the xbox? but 50% i find that hard to believe becuase i seen nothing that proves it.
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5h4h4b  +   370d ago
You won't see differences so early bro, have some patience, most of those x1 games were originally x360 games so they were longer in development and we didn't see ND and SSM firing yet. Deep down showed us the glimpse of ps4 capabilities. Lets wait and watch.
Enemy  +   370d ago
One says 50%? EVERYONE has been saying the PS4 is 50%. The specs are released and compared. If you knew how to compare these specs you'd know too. Carmack is paid to be neutral. His games are multiplatform after all.

People who have compared the specs aren't offering an opinion. It's a comparison of facts.
Daz  +   370d ago
Ive seen one guy say it. who else has then?
send us a link please forum heroes dont count.
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CrimsonStar  +   370d ago
So one guys says its 50% and so does this pro sony website . And that makes it fact? lol get your head out of your ass . I agree the PS$ is stronger , but not 50% that's ridiculous .
Enemy  +   370d ago
What guy? Adrian Chmielarz from People Can Fly? You do know that it wasn't even HIS opinion, right? His sources are the developers that told him. Do we have a reason to call BS? No. He's never been called out.

The more recent was probably War Thunder's developers (PC developers at heart, mind you...) claiming 40% advantage for PS4's GPU. The remaining 10% obviously for GDDR5 RAM. http://www.gamechup.com/war...

You could find countless links on Google. All you need to do is do what you want me to do for you.

https://www.google.com/#q=P...

Again, this isn't a comparison of opinions. It's a comparison of released specs. Those SPECS, are facts, and evidence.

Why'd Microsoft suddenly feel the urge to clock up Xbox One's CPU/GPU? They're desperate to match it, but it can't happen. They underestimated how powerful the PS4 was going to be and it backfired. The end.

Accept it or be in denial of known facts. Up to you, I couldn't care less. The fact that you even thought I'd link you to a forum is enough for me to know you've been living a cave for quite some time.

@ CrimsonStar: That's your problem right there. You think everyone making the claim is pro Sony. This is why you need to wake up. The more you shut your eyes to the truth, the more you keep lying to yourself about who's making these claims.

Daz: "Yo you heard Sony fanboys are saying that 1+1 = 2?"
CrimsonStar: "Yeah, stupid Sony fanboys. They have no evidence."
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EXVirtual  +   370d ago
Carmack said he didn't do any benchmarking.
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BallsEye  +   370d ago
The dude that said it's 50% faster he said HE HEARD SO. It's not his own opinion. Read with understanding.
Ko_Uraki  +   370d ago
This was a thread made today by a guy of neogaf. So this site takes the posts of neogaf and turns them into articles...Simply terrible.
vigilante_man  +   370d ago
Have read a few Neogaf articles this past week. Gotta say they are more considered and less fanboy based comments in there.

Just saying...
christocolus  +   370d ago
Judging from this article..most of the comments from the devs actually state how close in power they are...one even says he is actually amazed at how close they are.....imo I would rather take the opinion of seasoned devs like carmack and kojima over this former peopl can fly dev...... i guess ill have to wait till launch and see for myself..
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Angeljuice  +   370d ago
But two of the three devs you mentioned are under NDA's, only one is free to speak his mind.
christocolus  +   370d ago
angel j really? nda? dude where did you get that info? well i had never heard of that chamirez guy until two days ago i guess he is a free lancer...in all im still waiting it out to see how this plays out at launch..
Angeljuice  +   370d ago
Well Carmack himself said he was under an NDA (if you read his statement), it's unlikely that one mult-plat dev is and another isn't (don't you think)?
ShwankyShpanky  +   370d ago
EVERY dev for EITHER system is going to be under an NDA. Even after the consoles release they will be under NDA's of some type or another. It's the nature of business.
byeGollum  +   370d ago
wow, one would go so far as to compile comments, ahah!

If the difference is so significant, why is there so much effort in trying to convince every one that there is one. Where's the proof, in 7 years time?

you'd have to be completely deluded to expect a PC-like margin/difference between the two new consoles.

now, don't bother me while I await my precious ^_^
we hates you.
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n4rc  +   370d ago
We hates you.... Lmao..

Now that was good..lol
Stuntz  +   370d ago
Why are PS4 fans still saying PS4 is for the true gamers? X1 has all the games on it im really confused. It has been proven time after time that PS4 is exactly what we say an Indiestation, if you are buying it for indies i suggest you just buy a smartphone. X1 has Ryse, Halo, Forza, DR3, Quantum Break, TitanFall, KI, Project spark. Lets see hmm which game lineup is better? lol you PS4 fanboys make me laugh.
5h4h4b  +   370d ago
Ps4 has killzone, driveclub, deep down,order 1886, infamous,everybody gone to the rapture,resogun,rime, shadow of the beast,planetside 2,yakuza......
You xfans make me laugh!
Stuntz  +   370d ago
are you being serious right now? Comparing the game list you just said to what i mentioned? The lineup i mentioned bends over what you just said lol. Dr3, Titanfall, and Ryse got awards at E3, and gamescom for being best at show, PS4 got award for failed indies lol.
vigilante_man  +   370d ago
They are saying that PS4 is a pure gaming device built for gaming. XB1 is a multi-purpose device that can switch between games and TV and Windows 8. There will be some amazing games on XB1 and multi-platforms should look great on both due to same CPU and 8GB Ram.

Kinnect 2 cost MS slightly more than the cost of developing XB1. That is their focus and their right. It stands to reason a gaming only device will be that bit more powerful than a multi-purpose device. By how much - we do not fully know yet.

This much is fact. We can all choose what games and devices we want to play. The PS4 has its strengths and so does the XB1. That's all people are really saying.
gamer1523  +   370d ago
How can you play all the games with one system I like both (get your money up)
game_infected  +   370d ago
Medise lab
gamer1523  +   370d ago
Sony and microsoft fanboy
first1NFANTRY  +   370d ago
I was a ps1 and ps2 owner originally. i bought two 360's the start of this gen because the ps3 was delayed here in Aus.

Both 360's died on me then i bought my ps3 at launch. ever since then i've told myself i will NEVER buy another M$ console at launch. and besides i'm not into a shooter box.
Regis  +   370d ago
But PS is a shooter box as well you can't deny that with all these shooter games they are coming out with and one way or another they have some form of shooting in their games
first1NFANTRY  +   370d ago
i admit sony does have a few shooters but the variety of games more than doubles them. just look at the amount of indie games and AAA games they've released this gen alone.
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abusador  +   370d ago
Funny how fans were praying for this secret dgpu sauce which was a laughable thought at best and now it has been shot down!!!!!

Ps4 factually is the stronger system and plz lets not bring in the customized chips and nonsense because they both have customized parts!!!!!
sAVAge_bEaST  +   370d ago
I thought it was kind of sad,, people going on&on about a dGPU, -I don't get how they could believe such FUD, and fanatically promote the Idea.

The thing is , that games won't really show how much more superior the Ps4 is, for a few years, when the developers get settled into next gen, and start wanting to do amazing things. This is were the Xbone was going to rely on the "Pwar of da Clowdz" -Ps4 was built to handle it on-board, not off load the work.
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abusador  +   370d ago
Yeah but remember these are the same fans that supported Microsoft even after RROD which in gaming was the biggest lie, disrespect and middle finger to gamers ever. You had a company push out hardware that they tested, knew was highly faulty, and then lied to consumers when they made an issue and even said they knew nothing of rrod and it wasn't covered on initial warranty. Then they said "oh microsfot loves us they extended warranty and added rrod to it" No court litigation forced them too!!!
Rayansaki  +   370d ago
I have to say, regardless of the validity of any claims by the devs, this quote is ridiculously funny:

"I have played Forza, Killer instinct, and Ryse on the Xbox One. They look as good as the games I play on a high end PC. Ryse reminded me of Darksiders II."

Darksiders 2... one of the least visually impressive games from the last few years... That's what he compared Ryse's looks to. I mean Darksiders 2 looked good on console, but the PC port was awful, it used basically the same assets as the console version just upscaled. So what the dev is saying, is that Ryse looks like an x360 game. Only upscaled and with some post processing.
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sAVAge_bEaST  +   370d ago
because it is. -It started off as a 360.kinect game, and -took the great Kinect2.0 out- and upscaled for the bone.
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Hakoom  +   370d ago
PS4 has beter hardware.. better games.. and better support.. and overall sony doesnt trick ther customers like ms does always
falviousuk  +   370d ago
Obvisouly, as usual, people saw the title and started commenting before reading the article.

Two comments, whci Im would view with suspicion, state that the PS4 is way more powerful, Jonathan Blow who hates MS with a passion, and some ex people can fly developer with some information in a tweet that hasnt been backed up by sources, the rest of the comments have said that they are very close to each other.

But why let that get in the way of fandom on here
GraveLord  +   370d ago
PS4 = $399 = Most Powerful = Plays Call of Duty
XB1 = $499 = Weaker = Plays Call of Duty

The choice is obvious.
WascallyWabbit  +   370d ago
Let me guess, you read "DDR3" and "GDDR5" and assume the latter is better because it's a higher number?
GraveLord  +   370d ago
I know a lot more about tech than you think. There's a lot more to the PS4s advantage than just GDDR5 RAM. For example the 1.8Tflop GPU compared to the Xbox Ones 1.3Tlop. It couldn't get any clearer than that.

Cite the Xbox Ones custom this or custom that. It doesn't matter. PS4 has custom chips of its own.

Like it or not the PS4 DOES have the RAM advantage even if you factor in the Xbox Ones ESRAM. PS4 has an architectural advantage here.

1 Pool of high bandwidth 8GB RAM > 1 Pool of low bandwidth 8 GB RAM + 1 Pool of High Bandwidth 32 MB ESRAM
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falviousuk  +   370d ago
You really do n ot know what you are talking about, instead of copy / pasting stuff you have read here and elsewhere why no go and actually learn how systems work and interact with each other.
rahmeekbrunner  +   370d ago
xbox is to money thirsty you cant even go to a friends hows and use there consoled to play a your game disk
Regis  +   370d ago
@ rahmeekbrunner what rock are you hiding under they stopped with that restriction a while back.
FrigidDARKNESS  +   370d ago
Another article that has no prroof of anything judt made up stuff.
First of all devs are under Nda by MS and can't openly discuss x1 hardware.
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EXVirtual  +   370d ago
Just like that dGPU was under NDA but Penello confirmed it was false. They're openly comparing PS4 to XB1 and saying PS4 is more powerful. Just except the facts.
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FrigidDARKNESS  +   370d ago
False article dude with lies they didn't speak to any developers.
Tooly  +   370d ago
And Niether can sony They also have a nda.You notice that sony hasn't gone into specs since Feburary. Nobody at sony even responded to M$ claims.Sony on there own path Aint Worried bout nun.They just lettinq M$ Talk
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WascallyWabbit  +   370d ago
This article is beyond made up. They didn't speak to any devs.
BattleTorn  +   370d ago
What are you talking about?

Johnathan Blow pisses credibility.

hehe /s
urwifeminder  +   370d ago
Does not have the edge on my pc lol will be getting xb1 not for power but entertainment.
ilovefatgirls  +   370d ago
idk why everyone is getting their titties in a twist over the hardware specs because it wont make any huge difference for the next 3 to 4 years until when p.c builds for the same price are away and afar ahead (i know they are for some but take into account taxes, customs and shipping)

personally im gonna sit back and buy the one with the least amount of failures
rahmeekbrunner  +   370d ago
the down fall of the xbox one is they are too money thirsty
corvusmd  +   370d ago
True Sony has proven that they don't care about money. Although you do realize that MS could have sat back and made no upgrades to their network and still be more powerful right? Instead they invested a ton of money into upgrading it cause they are money hungry.
LetoAtreides82  +   370d ago
5.6 million seconds until Greatness arrives.
http://www.timeanddate.com/...
Keregan  +   370d ago
lol another article base on what ex-dev friend of a friends of his grandma and a couple of indie devs, sure keep up the good work trolls :P
LiarasBoobs  +   370d ago
Its more powerful, and 100$ cheaper. I'm pretty sure most consumers will see it that way.
corvusmd  +   370d ago
Geez you Sony Fanboys are getting desperate. Did any of you even read the article? This is proof that PS4 is more powerful? This is a joke, even the 4 hand selected (twitter) quotes by a known PS4 fan couldn't outright say that PS4 is more powerful...well done. (slow hand clap). However, that isn't the name of the game for Sony fans now...so I see why it was done, it's not about getting facts out there and letting people decide for themselves...no it's all about smearing XB1 and promoting PS4 through false or misleading headlines. The bottom line is that no matter what individual specs you pick out on paper, and compare them to XB1....actual gameplay on consoles (eventhough PS4 is still using devkits and MS isn't) XB1 looks just as good if not better....so then if you truly believe that PS4 is 30-40% more powerful...then why are they intentionally screwing their fans out of that extra power?
BattleTorn  +   370d ago
These are all old twitter quotes.

And the only credible developer he quote said their about the same, both very powerful.
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Tooly  +   370d ago
we gettin deparate but yall keep cominq up wityh all this stupid ass rumors lol
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