We are given a better explanation on what exactly the Vita TV is and how it'll benefit you.
So we have a new next gen HOME console coming out this year? The PS Vita TV. I love gaming on the big screen but... I still think PS Vita with mini HDMI out is the best thing Sony should have done besides the PS Vita TV. Like my PSP 3000 has A/V out and it can connect to any TV. And I don't wanna have to buy nor carry a Dual Shock 3! Can I use a PS Vita or DualShock 4 as controller for PS Vita TV? PS vita is supposed to be a console, controller, screen all- in-one solution like the PSP 3000. Throw in the 720p or 1080i HDMI display output and media streaming tech and you have one helluva portable gaming machine with the redesigned PS Vita! Should I wait for PS Vita 3000, Sony?
This is a great idea. Another trump by Sony. Being able to second screen to another tv for the PS4 is a really really good idea. I'm sure that it won't be long until the mongers at micro$oft copy this idea. But you'll have to have an xbone live gold account to use it LOL.
Your still a joke.
It reminds me of the PSP GO in a way because it can plug into a TV and use a DS3 (like the GO). And it also reminds me of the prototype UMD drive sony was working on before they came out with the PSP 2000/3000. That was supposed to be a USB device that you plug into the PS2 to play PSP games on a tv. It may not be a fully revised Vita with tv out but it is still and neat idea.
Look at my disagrees! People we need discussions not angry disagrees, LOL! Man up abit. OT PS Vita TV Adapter... PS Vita TV Adapter... PS Vita TV Adapter with extras in it... is a nice way to look at this whole bloody thing. I will now let it sink in a bit in my head. Now it makes sense to me. Even if the small form factor is aimed at Japanese gamers I really hope its around $75 to $80 in NA. Bye Bye Ouya!
And your post was a "reply" to miyamoto in what way exactly? Oh, it wasn't. It was just riding coattails on the first post. Lame.
I love this idea. No PS3/4 or Vita is needed. Buy PlayStation Vita TV, buy some Vita games and your set to play Vita games on a TV. This could be big if Sony market the product right.
The only issue with that is price. Price is still a big problem for the masses and Sony needs to sell more systems so companies like Ubisoft and EA will develop more games for it (as well as indies) building up the library so more people buy the Vita. This is smart as it is a very low entry price for people wanting a media system. It combats like likes of Apple TV and Chromecast as it offers big games too. Combine that with the relatively low entry price means people who are not ready or sure to pick up a next generation system could pick up this as games are being made (quite regularly) for it. It then gives people a taste of Vita games which means they could buy a Vita if they want to go more portable (more justified if they have a large library already which this device could offer). Then you have the PS4 connectivity side of things which means people who don't buy a system immediately but get this as it is a low cost multimedia system would stick with playstation as it all connects together (big thing for consumers. Another tick in the box). Sony's main mission is to get more people buying Vitas (as it isn't selling well) and this is what this does (like a trojan horse). Sticking a HDMI on a Vita doesn't change the fact people do not want to buy it. This device is all about the masses and keeping the masses with Playstation and Sony
I was thinking the same thing, they wanna expanded the in-base for vita and they can't drop the price anymore for now and also it support both DS3 and 4 which is win for console owners that luv to ply on big screan and can't stand handheld and down the line when gaikai launches its gonna be another story
Warpath. Sony is on it. I haven't seen them this aggressive and hungry since the PS2 days. The potential for viral marketing due to the inherent capabilities of the Vita is simply brilliant.
@Miyamoto The problem with adding hdmi output to a vita will probably add more cost to the unit itself. This is actually a very smart move by Sony. This might even serve as an introductory model to getting a vita handheld. For $100 you get a small console that adds additional functionality to your tv.
Agreed. This is why I love good discussions. We see things from all angles. thanks. PS Vita TV could sell at $75 to $80 in NA New PS Vita could sell at $150 here in NA not bad i hope it supports Gaikai too
I respond politely to people who have genuine concerns and questions. To be honest I also wanted the hdmi output for the vita too since its always good to have that option. Maybe we'll get that feature in another revision.
I think why I like this so much is because Sony just told me that have more choices to game from anywhere. I don't have to purchase multiple PS4s; I can game on the go; I can game on vacation; I can game from anywhere in the house that has a TV and the device connected to it. I have to admit, at first I did not like this idea, but I am coming around to the possibilities...
@miyamoto "i hope it supports Gaikai too" I expect it will be a Gaikai client, it's likely that the technology they are using for streaming PS4 games is the same as Gaikai under the hood, it's just that they have substituted your PS4 in place of their servers.
I'm not seeing the logic here. Sony Announces a new model of PS Vita and then announces and very good reason not to buy it. Also you wont even be able to play many of the games on your TV because the PS4 doesn't have the touchscreen capabilities of the Vita. This will make the Vita library even more limited for TV play.
Do your research please before spouting anymore nonsense. Most of the touchscreen capabilities are gonna be addressed by the dual shocks l3 and r3 buttons. Also the DS4 will be supported upon PS4 launch and that controller has a touchpad.
hello DualShock 4 has a touch pad, mate. And DualShock 3 L3 and R3 buttons will compensate for touch functions like in dragon's crown Ps3 version. all bases are covered. Sony ain't stupid you know.
Dualshock 4 has a touchpad and two extra triggers to cover the touchpad behind the ps vita. They cannot announce all those touch-based games now for PS Vita TV, because it's coming out only in Japan, and PS4 (read= dualshock 4) will be out in February there.
These 2 new products are aimed at 2 different markets. If you like portable gaming, you won't buy this, you already have a Vita.
@GraveLord But can you mirror your Vita screen onto a larger TV screen? Methinks that is the question. If not, then it's still the same market.
yes, it will be limited. Even the additional buttons on the vita won't compensate the touch functionality. Devs would have to create patches to replace the functions. But it will be great to play all the indi titles and psp\psone titles. Gaikai might add ps2 games as well. There you have a console with a vast library of games.
Are you stupid? You don't have to carry a Dualshock 3 or Vita TV. It's meant for TV USE. The portable Vita with a screen will still continue to be sold.
and you wouldn't be carrying a ps3 DS3 for vita tv,it's for home use.If your out and about,you would just use your vita like normal.
Very well written from gamesraddar this device well be essential for any gamer who travel alot,and ll make PS brand bigger than ever
I kind of prefer the Vita TV over a redesigned Vita with HDMI out. It will be cheaper for me to buy the Vita TV over trading in my current Vita to get the new one because the trade in price at best would be probably 80 bucks
At Gamestop maybe. A man would recommend selling on Ebay.
@werewolfss From a guy who couldnt even use the correct word to trash talk. It's "You're" not "your".
A lot of people say the Vita performs bad in sales. I guess making the newer Vita offer the new features in itself would have been a great selling factor.
another crap from sony. I never like handhelds yea the vita is cool but if I connect to a TV for that its better the x1 or ps4, not a vita, a vita is for video game on the go, being at home playing on a 5 inch led it stupid, better to play xbox or pc.
A Vita is for gaming before anything else. People really like the $100 for a near PS3 experience on their TV, as well as the extra features it has.
When I read about this, and considered the applications, this morning, I was very impressed. Basically it's #1 function will be to hook up to a second screen in the house. Essentially enabling a single PS4 for two screens without having to move the console. Rather smart. MS is probably kicking themselves.
Not to mention it's small. So you can take it to friends' houses and play your PS4 games remotely from anywhere with an internet connection. Pretty ingenious if you ask me.
I would love to play my ps4 games in a hotel because I travel a lot. Only problem: Internet usually sucks...
The only thing I have an issue with this feature is whether this has always been in the design or is this just a recent feature being added. Can anyone confirm when is this release or when were any news in the past on it's development? It's at least important to me because it'll only work as good as it should IF it had time for to be designed. If it was just recent then this is nothing than a mere respond to what Microsoft is doing and not operate as good. Similar to their deal with Viacom out of the blue.
@Power Releases Nov 14th in Japan. I really don't think there was much involved in having to design this. It's just a vita motherboard, likely the new redesigned one, in a small box with HDMI out(something they already have on dev kits. They probably just needed to update the OS to adapt it's functionality. I believe Vita already supports bluetooth so it would have been easy enough to add DS3/4 support...and hope it comes to the regular Vita too. The Vita itself was designed around remote play, so doubt that will be an issue. They've already shown it working, and I've used it myself from time to time. There may be some hiccups with the software at launch, but Vita itself is pretty solid right now. Only thing I would want more on it is a wired Ethernet port for home use.:)
Hi malokevi, Do you know if ps4 games will be able to be played at 1080p? I know that Vita games will be outputed at 720p, but what about PS4 games?... Thanks
According to Sony's spec sheet on it the max video out is 1080i. PS4 games will likely play at their native resolution if they are below that, as it's just a video stream and there is no heavy work going on in the device itself.
Not just in your house either. Its through wifi so you could theoretically take the VitaTV to your friend's house. Hook it up to his TV. Connect through his wifi, connect to your Ps4 and have a good time. lol.
That's what I saw as the main take away for this device as well. At home, I have a main PVR and a box that connects to the PVR in another room. This is the same idea, a PS4 extender that allows you to play your PS4 in another room without needing to move the unit. It's a fantastic idea. The fact that it plays Vita games and streams media almost seems secondary to me, but is still a shrewd move to move Vita software. For $100 I'll certainly be looking at picking one of these up down the road. I currently have a 2 PS3's, one on my home theater in my den and one on the TV up in the living room. Being able to extend my PS4 to another room without shelling out another $400 is good news, and I'm already a Vita owner so it's nice to be able to plug in my Vita games to play on the TV if I so choose.
If it works well as a remote access spot to play your PS4 games. If it does not, then what?
I move my PS3 ALL THE TIME. Constantly going from the one room to the next but now that is out the window for less than $100. But doesn't it play Vita, and PSP games natively on its own? I thought I saw that. If it does then it's a full stand-alone console, as well as a PS4 extender. This is the best idea I've seen from a console maker in years. When they start putting that in bundles with a PS4 then it is going to sell monstrously. I wonder why they paired it with DS3. Does anybody know if it will work with the DS4 as well?
Yes, it's a full Vita without the OLED screen. Comes with 1GB of on board memory and takes Vita memory cards and retail games. Can use it to download PSP/PS1/PSVita titles, as well as stream games from the PS4, and I'd imagine PS3 games that support remote play. I'd imagine this will be a big part of Gaikai when they launch that. I wouldn't be surprised to see them launch a line of TV's with these embedded in them too. And yes, it'll work with the DS4. Sony really wasn't kidding when they said they had an announcement that was beyond anyone's wildest imagination the other day. Can't believe Sony was able to keep something like this from leaking out...it's so unlike them.:)
I dont think i would want to carry xbox One anywhere. That thing will hurt my back.
@malokevi "When I read about this, and considered the applications, this morning, I was very impressed. Basically it's #1 function will be to hook up to a second screen in the house. Essentially enabling a single PS4 for two screens without having to move the console. Rather smart. MS is probably kicking themselves." Yupper's, this have been a goal , to expamd the playstation Eco System, because when Sony was Also creating the Playstation Suite, which is now playstation Mobile. They were looking at being able to make existing Android Powered devices, being able with just a download APK. to be able to be used as an extended Arm of the Playstation Eco System. the key is Microsoft is also doing that with SmartGlass. the New xboxone can have upto 16 smart glass enabled devices connected to the xboxone. Sony's idea is along the same lines, but using Android stack instead of Windows OS off the bat. Having two more dedicated PSVita powered Hardware platforms though does give more developer's directed platform uniformity on hardware. than just the many types of smart devices out there. But with both dedicated and smart devices being able to be used. Sony's remote play was not just going to be the PSVita only, but it was going to be the main device for such platform targeting for mobile gaming on the go for a playstation Eco System. It was one of the thing's Sony's engineers was talking about many years ago in 2003 when they wanted to build up a playstation Eco system of moving the playstation experience from just the living room to the Mobile space. this is just the many, years of Evolution to this idea.
The wife and I have two PC's in separate bedrooms. I'm thinking about getting a PSVTV for each of them so we can have PS4 content anywhere we need it. I'm psyched! I love the idea of having my PC and PS4 content right on my PC as well as the PS4 in the living room. Freaking cool!
They should let this thing play digital PS2 games.
Agreed. I'd love if it could stream PS3/PS2 games from the PS3.
might come later with Gaikai
This will stream Gaikai, when it launches.
Not in the slightest in my opinion. I think PS Vita TV is a terrible idea. In summation, it's a device with the PS Vita System UI that allows you to play PSV, PSP, PS1 and Media content only on your TV. Also since it has the PS Vita UI it is able to play all PS4 games via remote play powered by Gaikai. First of all, between the PSV, the new model, and PSV TV, they're going to end up confusing consumers unless they can find a way to explain the uniqueness of all three. But who are they marketing this to? Is PS Vita TV supposed to be a substitute for getting a PS Vita? If so, great (Cheaper), but how will it look playing the PS Vita on a, say, a 32" TV screen? It'll most definitely look worse playing Borderlands 2 on PS Vita TV than on PS3, PC, or Xbox 360. You also forfeit true portability as the device doesn't have a screen. Is it supposed to make the PS4 more portable? If so, can't we already just take the PS4 console with us if we're going on vacation or is it really worth the added portability (also does it even stream in the same resolution)? If I already have a PS Vita, is the ability to play on the TV really worth the extra money? It just doesn't seem to even have an actual market. I think scrapping the PS Vita, making all PS Vita exclusives PS4 games from the start, and making a new device (with a screen) with the sole purpose of allowing you to access PS4 games on the system (Via remote play), would have been more ideal. Pretty much, I think Sony would have effectively created a portable GamePad for the PS4 albeit with a smaller screen. Sure this would further perpetuate the stereotype that Sony just borrows ideas from Nintendo, but at least I think it would have made them more money perhaps. Maybe I'm wrong though. Maybe this is just what Sony needed.
it has an lcd screen what r u talking about
Wait a minute, no it doesn't. I'm surprised you even got "agrees". If it did, it would be redundant and wouldn't be so cheap.
ITS AN OPTION!!! Some people like me don't like handheld gaming. This let's me play Vita games if I choose. It also allows you to stream from any TV in your home with 1 system. If your can take this out of the home then your can take this(which can fit in your pocket) as opposed to taking a $400 console around with you while your on VACATION. It's called convenience. These companies make most of there MONEY FROM SOFTWARE. This is just an OPTION to get more people to buy more games which means MORE MONEY. More people to enjoy more games is not a bad thing. This is just a cheaper option than actually buying a Vita to enjoy its games. If it's pointless like you say then it won't sell. Who knows. Time will tell.
While I disagree with the convenience point (it really isn't hard to put your system in a suit case or even a bag and bring it with you on vacation. I just did it with my Wii U a couple days ago.), you make a good point in your second paragraph. Hopefully this things sells well enough to make the increase in software sales worthwhile.
They don't need to scrap the Vita, they just need to make more games that show what the Vita can do instead of ports. It's a great device that Sony is really missing the market on.
More games is something I can agree with.
for that to happen they need to sell more vita units. Vita TtV could do the trick
VitaTv isn't compatable with Vita games that actually utiize the Vita's features like the touch on the back of the unit or the touch screen. Comes with the Dualshock 3 and not 4 either so I'd like to know how remote play with the PS4 is affected.
Look at it from this way. I'm often away and sometimes several weeks but I dont like giving up gaming during that time. With thr Vita TV I can potentially only pack that tiny device and a DualShock and play my PS4 games on a tv when I'm away from home. Its less hassle compared to taking my normal home console with me as it is a lot smaller and less likely to break.
Is it really worth the extra cost though?
I rather spend 100 bucks on the Vita TV and take that with me, especially for when I travel by plane as I usually have anyway a full backpack with me in case the luggage get`s lost (not uncommon) and the laptop bag. Given how often my luggage got lost so far (always got it back some time later) I wouldn`t want to put my console in there for that reason and that the bag might not be treated very well.
I have a 55 LED in my living room. This is where my ps3 is and where my ps4 will go. Every night I want to lay down and keep gaming in bed on my 44" plasma but I'dhave to unhook the unit and hook it up in the bedroom. Then the next day unhook it from plasma and hook back up in living room. This device will eliminate that process. That, to me, is worth $100.00
I disagree with you here on almost every point. You mentioned 1. Confusion between PSV, PSVita new model, PSVTV 2. Resolution 3. True portability 4. Having an actual market 1. Its's a simple question of screen. If you want a portable screen by the PSV or the PSV(new model name). If you don't need a portable screen you can buy the PSVTV and save yourself some money. 2. 480p is 480 x 720 = 345,600 pixels 720p is 720 x 1280 = 921,600 A PSVita screen is 960 x 544 = 522,240 So, a Vita screen is a little more than half of 720p and 1 and half time 480p. I think that is plenty of resolution, especially, for people who know that they are playing Vita games. Lots of people watch standard def content on their HDTVs now. 3. True portability - First, I don't think it is designed for people who want to take their games with them and don't have a Vita. Second, and more importantly, I think it adds to the appeal of the Vita. If you have Vita, you may not want to be looking at that small screen while you are at home. 4. This turns the Vita into a $100 home console, and it extends your PS4 to a second screen. That is two major markets right there. If you have a PS4 and 2 tv's you probably need one. If you only have $100 and want a console or want to buy one for a kid etc. That is another market. I think this is a master stroke by Sony.
I think the PS4 feature sounds interesting... but wonder about latency with anything like this kind of tech.
in the home it should be unnoticeable. Remote play (as it is right now with PS3 and Vita remote play) has unnoticeable latency within your own Wifi (it has to have some but I didn't notice any). I am unsure about it outside your home network which is wear a problem may lie (depends on network speeds)
Question, is $135 a good price for a used but mint condition original Vita? That's with shipping and tax included. I'm on the brink. Do you think the price will come down more? I'm going to buy the VitaTV also.
It's a good deal especially if it's in mint condition and comes with the box along with a memory card. I also got mine second hand for that price but with 2 memory cards, 2 vita cartridge games along with a 1 year subscription to ps plus (as long as I don't log out of that account).
Damn that's an awesome deal! It doesn't come with the original box or games or memory cards or ps+ so maybe ill wait a little longer, but eventually it will be mine.
Well it didn't have the box though :P Yeah you should wait, I'm certain the new model would drive the prices of 2nd hand Vita models down. Just remember that when buying a second hand unit always look for great condition items since it most likely been well taken care of. Also I've had better luck getting 2nd hand gadgets from girls, since they tend to be more careful with their gadgets.