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Submitted by mii-gamer 662d ago | opinion piece

The death of Nintendo has been greatly over exaggerated not to mention fictional

mii-gamer:

I find it hilarious (and somewhat pathetic) soon after Nintendo announced the Wii U price cut we have many so called Journalist jumping the gun and calling the death of Nintendo. Just in a matter of days after the announcement of the price cut, the internet has an influx of “Nintendo is doomed” articles emerging. I can only envision these people as vultures – disease ridden opportunistic cowards waiting for the first sign of injury to go for the kill. Unfortunately, Vultures, Nintendo isn’t dead so you can feast on someone else while you wait for them to die (if that even happens). (3DS, Nintendo, Wii U)

muffinbutton  +   662d ago
i hate fanboys
diepdiep  +   662d ago
Agree. It's bad enough when fanboys on this site say nonsensical stuff and get bubbles for it while others get down-voted for stating facts.
SilentNegotiator  +   662d ago
Only a site like "mii-gamer" even thinks that there is a "death of Nintendo" mythos outside of some idiot forum posters anyway and thinks that there's a need to "debunk" it every week.
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SilentNegotiator  +   661d ago
You've been a member a few days and you're questioning me?

5 does not a significant amount make. A few morons claim that Wii U is outright "doomed" or Nintendo "dying" and a couple of articles that are lucky to reach 80 degrees doesn't mean that there is any significance to the belief.

Just because I keep on the tail of the spamming Wii U fanboys and Xbox for the last few ridiculous months, doesn't mean that you can say I'm not a gamer.

"I love how you call them "idiot forum posters" You seriously just called yourself an idiot"

If you stretched any further on that, you'd make Plasticman blush. I clearly meant forum posters that are idiots, not that all forum posters are idiots. It's pretty sad that you felt the need to pretend to be ignorant to that fact to attempt to make me look hypocritical.
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Fanboyssuck27  +   662d ago
Good Read, heres some reasons why Nintendo are far from dead.
- Super Mario 3d Land
- Donkey Kong: Tropical Freeze
- Super Mario Kart 8
- Super Smash Bro's
- Pikmin 3
- Wonderful 101
- Bayonetta 2
- Yarn Yoshi
- X Monolith Soft
- Monster Hunter
- Sonic Lost World
- Zelda Wind Waker Remake
- Watch_Dogs
- Brand New Zelda Game
- Rayman Legends
- Splinter Cell: Blacklist
- Batman: Arkham Origins
- Assassins's Creed 4
- COD: Ghosts

Not to forget the new IP'S that have yet to be named aswell as the possibility of Metroid, Starfox and F zero.
Plus a load of indie titles.

People forget who's:

A.) Been in the console business the longest

&

B.) Are the owners of the most famous and sales-generating IPs in the industry?

Nintendo.

Agreed - when people think of next-gen systems, they think of XBOX and PlayStation. But they're not thinking of those exact systems - they're thinking: "OMG - PRETTY GRAPHICS!" Where as Nintendo are all about quality gameplay experience not just something that looks nice.

When people think of Nintendo - they think of Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Smash Bros, Starfox, etc. IPs like that. They think of their childhood memories of playing these games non-stop with smiles on their faces.

I'm not dissing Sony or Microsoft here - I'm just saying; people are in it for the specs these days. It baffles me that just because a console doesn't have 'XYZ' amounts of RAM or this graphics card or that graphics card - people lose their heads over it. You might as well go out and buy a PC if all you care about is specs.

Nintendo's IP's have more mass appeal than Sony's and Microsofts put together, and they certainly sell more.
So Nintendo is and always will be very much alive!
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AKR  +   662d ago
Well isn't that an original comment you got going there!
AKR  +   662d ago
Don't know why I'm getting so many disagrees...He copy and pasted a comment that I typed out before, that's why I jokingly said "Well isn't that an original comment you got going there!" I don't mind, I just found it strange to see my comment used by someone else...

Take a look:
http://puu.sh/4n9ad.png
Irishguy95  +   662d ago
That's pretty sad actually. He must have stored it in his 2GB of RAM that he doesn't need for gaming
Dylken  +   662d ago
well said, bubbles for you
thomasmiller  +   662d ago
Yes it has but try telling that to all the biased media who hate nintendo and all the 5 yr old acting sony and microsoft trolls who want nintendo out of the hardware business, no matter how much proof you show them that nintendo is not doomed, their empty little heads can not come out of delusional world and face reality,, wait and read the comments you'll see what I mean! watch the little babies whine and cry saying they "KNOW" nintendo is doomed, yeah, just like so many people Know when the end of the world is coming, both completely stupid!!!
AKR  +   662d ago
That was a good read.

I don't know why people have this unwarranted hate against Nintendo. It's okay to have your company and console of choice, but if you're going to spend the day ranting-&-raving by putting the rival company and console down, while showing an unhealthy (and rather pathetic) devotion to your favorite, who only care for your money, then you have a problem.

It's like fanboys believe that they are an extension of their system/company of choice, and as long as that system and/or company seems more attractive than the others - that suddenly gives them the right to act like stuck-up, snobby, rude, rich people. It's sad, really.

But whatever. Nintendo has been in the game business for 30 years. They own the most popular IPs in gaming, and are sitting on the mounds of cash they made with Wii & DS, as well as the mounds of cash they're MAKING with 3DS.

If you honestly think they're just going to prop out overnight - you have another thing coming. Ignore that Sony has been losing money for nearly 10 years (I know things have picked up, but if they start losing money again, what do you think they're gonna do with the PlayStation division?)

Yes, just ignore all that and doom the most long-standing and richest runner in the video-game industry.

Genius. So let's say that Wii U turns around like 3DS. What happens then? What is everyone going to say then?

"Well just wait for the next console. It'll fail, big time!" Wii was "doomed" - yet it outsold PS360. 3DS was "doomed" - yet it's outselling the Vita, and everything else. Wii U is "doomed" - but the big~hitters haven't arrived yet. When they arrive, and it doesn't sell - THEN - it's dead, but until then, can everyone stop being a Mini-Patcher?
Yep  +   662d ago
When you're a fanboy and it's a fact that the company(ies) you're not a fan of has/have nearly a 0% failure track record, you begin to get jealous and feel that it's unfair for this to be the case and demand that they fail.

Who in the right mind would have such intense personal connections to a corporation that not even the employees that work there care about as much? The fanboy.
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jcnba28  +   662d ago
A positive Nintendo article barely getting to 50 degrees on this site...what a surprise!
Irishguy95  +   662d ago
It's because the Wii U has been poor and no one cares about it.
jcnba28  +   662d ago
No it's because this is sony4g.com

If this was a negative Nintendo article than it would have gone over 3-400 degrees.
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Irishguy95  +   662d ago
This site is dominated by Sony fanboys sure, but the WiiU has still been poor so far

Edit- Yes villager, no one cares about it. They just use it to beef up their own 'allegiance'
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The_Villager  +   662d ago
No one cares about it huh? That's why if this was a negative Nintendo article it would have been extremely popular on this site?
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TongkatAli  +   662d ago
Ignore his ass. You don't like what you hear then just ignore, Wii U is still a youngling.
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Chrono  +   662d ago
Delusional much?
sonic_boom  +   662d ago
Here's another good take on the "Nintendo is dead" TechCrunch article: http://www.fateofthegame.co...
matgrowcott  +   662d ago
"so called Journalist"?

Which one?

On topic:

Nintendo refuse to update. They refuse to innovate. I love Mario and Zelda games the same as the next person, but there's never been a time before in our industry when change was happening so fast and consumers had so much choice.

So as consumers, exactly what do we have to look forward to from Nintendo? What are they doing that we can't get elsewhere? Who are they trying to appeal to, and how are they trying to do so?

[The Wii U] is dying. Any way you wish to look at it. They may have life support on the way and I'd love to see them turn it around, but to do that, they need to announce a whole new outlook, they need to show that they acknowledge that change IS happening.

Edit: Made the distinction between Wii U and Nintendo. Nintendo are probably fine. The Wii U is not.
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Dan_scruggs  +   662d ago | Well said
Wii U is the first system to commit to a touch screen tablet controller interface.

Commits to motion controls. Wins an entire console generation.

Creates Wii Fit. Sells over 22 million.
Wii Fit Plus sells 21 Million

First dual screen touchscreen handheld system - DS

First 3D glasses free handheld system - 3DS

Nintendo refuses to innovate.
matgrowcott  +   662d ago
You're cool because you take a single four word part of my comment and reply to just that. That makes you cool.

Yes. We all know that tablets and motion control weren't even things until Nintendo invented them.

I can't argue that they try fresh things and I don't think anybody would. Sure, that's innovation.

So I guess my point is that they refuse to innovate in the right direction. They refuse to look at what else is happening in the industry - and outside it, for that matter - and act accordingly.

Was specifying that worth it, or does listing things make you feel more comfortable? Could you have perhaps worked out what I was trying to say from the context surrounding the four words you replied to?
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matgrowcott  +   662d ago
"YOurs is based of what you wished he had said to make your reply valid. "

How so? I made a joke. Other than that, I replied to what he said by qualifying my statement. He proved four words wrong, I said he was right and better explained what I meant. I didn't need to. The rest of my post provided context.

@Dan

"Nintendo's sense of direction comes from themselves and not the market or the competition."

And how are their stocks looking? How's their market penetration?

" I like to hinge my comments based of facts and not an arbitrary feeling that a company isn't acting accordingly."

So your "facts" are that Nintendo have done things right in the past? That they broke into the casual market for a single generation, paving the way for tablets and smartphones? Who is even arguing that? If the world ran on good intentions and past glories, SEGA would still be making consoles and we'd all be far happier, I'm sure.

When a company has been consistently losing market share year on year, and have now placed themselves in a position where no sizeable part of the market sees their product as an important purchase, how can a company so bent on doing things "their" way turn things around?

Because what you're doing at the minute is basing your comments on facts that suit your opinion. That's kind of the opposite of what you're claiming. If you were basing your opinion on fact, you'd perhaps be a little less confident.

So I ask again. What is it that they're doing that you feel successfully indicates that the Wii U is going to turn around?
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scissor_runner  +   662d ago
Matt sony is on their second pspgo the ps vita... I bought a tablet instead of that thing because I can be productive lol. Sony has been doing things the sony way and it has failed.... sure the ps3 is tied or beating the xbox but really im having a hard time seeing why I would want a ps4.... lets talk market share... ps1 and ps2 then came ps3 and pspgo lol.... I think Nintendo just bought a building. Also running a business to please only share holders would be silly. Nintendo should have stayed a privately trade company, the stock market is highly corrupted.

What is Nintendo doing that is going to turn the wiiu around, take a look at the release schedule.... tell me based on the numbers from past gens why would those games not sell? Also the console is postioned to be a second console which is what the wii did. I think thst turned out well...
Dan_scruggs  +   662d ago
Nah I was simply stating all the ways you were wrong. And you were. Just because you believe that Nintendo isn't innovating in the "right direction" whatever that is. Nintendo's sense of direction comes from themselves and not the market or the competition. If that was the case there would not have been motion controls or a dedicated tablet controller or the Wii Fit presser plate. Or a glasses free 3D handheld. Or many many other things. Thank god Nintendo does what they want and doesn't follow the industry standards. Everyone would be lesser for it. I like to hinge my comments based of facts and not an arbitrary feeling that a company isn't acting accordingly. Then again Nintendo is the only one of the big 3 that doesn't consistently lose billion on end so I suppose it would be safe to assume they know something you don't.
Dan_scruggs  +   662d ago
Yeah Sony loses 5.5 billion just turned a profit for the first time 5 years of losses and that was mostly due to the fact they had to sell their headquarters for a billion dollars and no one bats an eye (all true look it up). Nintendo loses 500 million and posts their first loss in 30 years and everyone jumps up to say how consistently wrong they are. My assessment is that people either don't like math or are too ignorant to look up the facts.
matgrowcott  +   662d ago
I didn't mention Sony in my post. For a start, comparing the two makes absolutely no sense. Sony has its fingers in multiple pies, and Microsoft at this point is basically a pie maker.

Nintendo is a video game company. They have only a few products on the market, in a niche, and when one of those products start to fail, their whole company has a problem.

So that's why your framing me as some sort of Sony fanboy in the hopes of avoiding my question doesn't work. All of this - no titles, high cost of development, low sales - is coming for the PS4 and Xbox One as well, although they have product better suited for the market so they probably won't feel it as bad as Nintendo.

Do I need to ask a third time?
Ben_Rage_3  +   662d ago
I rarely comment anymore, because there are few out there who are capable of having a conversation. But I applaud you for your intelligent comment and your use of the facts. Your assessment is valid, and I happen to share it. The video game industry has devolved into a mob mentality where people are content to not think for themselves, so it's nice to hear from a sane person for once.

And that goes double for this article. There is nothing to disagree with in the article, because it is backed by facts. Thank you for the read. I will follow this website from now on. :)
scissor_runner  +   662d ago
"Nintendo refuse to update".refuse to update what? They have a gpgpu console, that programming model is the future of even pc tech. Shaders are part of the graphics setup. They just are not trying to over charge you on their gpu choice. "They refuse to innovate."mario and their ips let them do exactly that. You wont see killzone karting, pool, soccer, etc because those ips are limited and can not innovate because of what their fans expect. Doing some thing first is not innovation doing it and changing an industry is innovation. ." I love Mario and Zelda games the same as the next person, but there's never been a time before in our industry when change was happening so fast and consumers had so much choice. "Choice for what? Obviously people want more of these games. It isn't even taking away from other dev teams." So as consumers, exactly what do we have to look forward to from Nintendo? What are they doing that we can't get elsewhere? Who are they trying to appeal to, and how are they trying to do so? [The Wii U] is dying."
Your to dramatic lol. We get games not movies from Nintendo. We get game play instead of tech demos. Im not getting enough real games that have actual gameplay from ms and sony. They are yet create 3d games that rival what we had on even 16bit consoles. Nintendo did this on the wii. I hated their engines on the ngc, bad framrate and way too easy... This is not the case with the wii engines and the wiiu can obviously run a supposed up version of all of their engines. Sony has frowned on 2d game play for a long time. Ms just has no heart lol. So the question really is when are ms and sony going to become console makers instead of set top/jr pc box makers. Those two fall into the void in between pc and console gaming. This has hurt both of them. A gamer like me is not even looking forward to their systems. What is sad is I love tech too yet these systems are not enough for me to look forward to right now so I maybe waiting and buying pc games. "Any way you wish to look at it. They may have life support on the way and I'd love to see them turn it around, but to do that, they need to announce a whole new outlook, they need to show that they acknowledge that change IS happening. Edit: Made the distinction between Wii U and Nintendo. Nintendo are probably fine. The Wii U is not." What is this change you keep talking about? Isnt the ps4 and xbox just higher spec versions of the same box? Is that really a change? Ive had higher spec pcs for years now!
truechainz  +   662d ago
"So I guess my point is that they refuse to innovate in the right direction. They refuse to look at what else is happening in the industry - and outside it, for that matter - and act accordingly. "

What you are describing is conformity not innovation. Forgive me if I am wrong but for you it seems you suggest Nintendo isn't following the same road as Sony and Microsoft so it must not be the right direction.

The saddest part of the whole thing is that you are partially right. Nintendo was thinking about things differently from the others, and as a result they will pay for it in the realm of 3rd party support because devs follow trends, and the only devs that are really open to innovation are select 1st party studios and indies. So at least Nintendo and Sony are both doing a lot to gain support with indies. But other 3rd party will avoid Nintendo and continue to give gamers an excuse to bitch and moan about why X console sucks. But one thing I believe is that Nintendo will continue to be there in one form or another.
scissor_runner  +   662d ago
Im sure we will see some major shake ups for 3rd parties... so Nintendo is right to do what they can to be different from Android, pc, and the hd clone twins.
matgrowcott  +   661d ago
I'm not suggesting conformity. However, creating a product isn't enough to mean a company deserves that product to sell.

You need to create a product for a market. Nintendo have tried to tell the market what it wants - as they've done in the past, both very successfully and very unsuccessfully - and this time it hasn't worked. The Wii U has boxed itself into a corner that represents neither one thing or the other, and Nintendo have yet to show us why anybody should care.

It's like too many indie games. Think of a hook, build from there. What they should be doing is building a firm foundation and innovating after the fact.
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isarai  +   662d ago
Wii U may crash and burn (emphasis on "may") but Nintendo has enough money to stay strong, this isn't going to kill them or even put them in jeopardy for that matter.
SpiralTear  +   662d ago
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm getting tired of these "The Wii U is not dead" articles almost as much as I am of the "The Wii U is dead" articles.
dredgewalker  +   662d ago
Why do people want Nintendo to die? I'm tired of these doom and gloom articles on any console.
TongkatAli  +   662d ago
Nintendo and Sony know gaming. Hating on one and loving the other is stupid and embarrassing. Both have huge fanbases and make good games, the end.

I can't believe i'm going to quote a Nicki Minag song

"Haters you can kill yourselves"
Angeljuice  +   662d ago
What I like most about Nintendo gamers is that they're such a light-hearted and jolly bunch of friendly folk who don't take things too seriously.
You can read through their posts without coming across the slightest hint of defensive behavior. It must be all those lovely games that keep them so full of good humour and sunshine smiles.

You never seem to see them acting aggressively towards others and they love and welcome criticism and friendly banter, to which they reciprocate and debate in a warm and pleasant manner. I think thats what makes them so very special.
D_RoyJenkins  +   662d ago
How is it fictional? Ever since the N64 Nintendo's console market share has been in decline (except the Wii which was an anomaly)
kirbyu  +   662d ago
Yes it is.
TheDman  +   662d ago
I read this original article, and with all the negative comments regarding Nintendo lately, I somewhat believed it. I have been a Nintendo fan since the 80's and felt sad reading articles predicting the companies demise. But reading this article has really made me realise that Nintendo is a company that has been through the highs and lows and will be around until they decide, not some journalist writing from what he believes is reality.
The company should be praised for leaving the comfort zone of the typical console and joypad and revolutionising the whole gaming industry by being innovative and unique. It's not an easy move "being different" because you're always going to be compared to the norm.
I now believe Nintendo will have a positive upcoming holiday period. I believe the Wii U will sell very well. I currently do not possess one, due to employment issues, but I do plan to get one this Christmas.
Long live Nintendo, and thank you for bringing joy into my home since the 80's.

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