Frankly I don't care what this guy says..I think what their company attempted and represents even after the change was not only disrespectful, but an out and out disgrace to the gaming community.
I gotta agree with you there. People don't like that the third Xbox is called Xbox One. Therefore, you get a nickname as silly as the actual name.
Why would you think it's disrespectful? What respect does a console have? Especially one that isn't out yet and has gotten nothing but negative attention. Besides, the rules of nicknames are that you don't get to pick them. If it sticks, you're stuck with it.
This guy is too much. He needs to get away from the social world because he is tainting the Xbox more and more. It's like dude go home already. No one likes u.
I don't like the Xbone, I think in it it's inital state it also was disrespectful. And he's the last one that should be talking about disrespectful if you look at his comment history.
I honestly think he is the most unlikeable person i have even seen attached to a console... ranging from his lack of knowledge of the system he represents (thinking MGS5 was an exclusive and 'the switch'), to his name 'Major Nelson', to his slimy persona.
I won't ever purchase a PS4 based on what Sony did to the PS3. Released it at 599 with no games for the first 3 years. Told people to get two jobs to afford one. The arrogance. The entire basis of the PS4 is damage control for the PS3 but it is too late for Sony. I'm an Xbox fan now.
If you say Xbone 3 times in the washroom alone while looking in the mirror.. . Kinect will watch you whenever you step in your house! It will withhold video entertainment from you until you give it your lunch money! And It will force you to keep what you have forever and ever! Wohahaha! But that my friends is only a myth.. .. .. . So they say.. ..
Just stop you sound stupid the ps3 isn't perfect but to say your Xbox fan because of price, lack of games for three years, you sound like hypocrite look at Xbox higher in price range and haven't really supported the console for three years only a few AAA titles. Not to mention an Xbox Exec said if you didn't have Internet buy a 360 when the X1 had its 24 hour check in. Point is both made mistakes and your company have committed the same crimes you hate Sony for.
On topic: How many Major Nelson articles are we gona get. We get it Nelson you like the X1 now get off the sack man and shut up already. Xbone Wow!
I prefer Xbone, it's easier to say and is more differentiated from the first original Xbox. I can't count how many times I've said Xbox 1 and meant the first Xbox, and I hate having to make that distinction. So Xbone it is.
Laughed out loud when I read the title for this article, no wonder it's three pages deep with 180 comments. I've loved this generations console build up, it's brought out some hilarious memes. Xbone ftw!
Surely when the managers, PR and marketing people sit down to think up a name for their product, they road test it to make sure people can't twist it round to make bad names out of it?
I wont take credit for it but after it was initially revealed...xbone was the first thing that came to mind when i commented about it. i guess from there it set a trend in motion.
No offense major but...whoever came up with the "xbox one" name was an 'xbone' head.
pOSTEDuP comment says everything about this site. Its an insulting piece, has no place anywhere, brings nothing good to an article and is totally childish. Look at his agrees, yet people offer well thought comments, and they get hammered with disagrees. Whether or not you agree with them, it deserves a little more respect.
Next thing you know we will be calling it the bone console. You know... Bare bones when it comes to games? I will not feel any regret forgetting this console in a year. The bone console can rot in the deserts of new Mexico along with every copy of ET for the Atari 2600.
I would have said consumers, point out that the original and some of the still current policies exclude and even punish anyone who puts down $500 for something they'll mistakenly think they'll own outright, but otherwise I agree with you.
"Nelson" has proven that he only says what MS wants him too.
Vigilante_man: It's not like the guy opened a thread whining about it. A commenter asked him what he thought about people calling it the "XBone" and he answered. I agree with him that it is disrespectful but that's life. I'm sure Sony doesn't like POS4 or PSBore or anything like that but kids will be kids.
"Nelson" has proven that he only says what MS wants him too."
I agree, it's no coincidence that he may have recently joined NeoGaf. He could even be a member on N4G hiding under an assumed name.
His job is to promote the Microsoft products. IMHO Microsoft must be placing him on a few popular forums and news sites to interact/sway people who don't follow/comment on his Twitter feeds.
I honestly think that's a mistake IMHO he needs replaced ASAP. Why? Even though he does what he's paid to do IMHO his reputation is all but destroyed. A lot of people despise him and the company he works for.
Having someone who's infamous for deception working at the top of the public relations is as far as I'm concerned a big negative. They need to get someone new in there that's fresh. Someone who isn't tainted by their past.
Sure people will still have negative views of the company and its polices but the stigma from a tainted public relations representative or CEO is something that can seriously hurt any company in it's market.
People are fickle, when screwed with most don't forgive or forget easily, especially with the internet and its social impact. If you have a representative that has high negative marks on their name they have very little respect from the community when they speak. In fact the most common reaction is hostile if the reputation is low enough.
Microsoft needs to replace this guy so they can at least get a fresh start on someone new. They don't need to fire him just put him someplace else or let someone else do PR until things settle down.
I know if I was in the public EYE caught on camera doing/saying something for a company that pissed people off the last thing I'd want is to add fuel to the fire. This is exactly why I think he needs to go on a long vacation.
Honestly, if I was as some would call a complete Sony fan I'd hit disagree with this comment imminently because it'd be in my interest to see him stay as a representative. If I was a complete Microsoft fan I assume my emotions would be split after reading this comment.
I really can't think to much about it because both companies have tickled my feathers. I suppose it depends on the current situation.
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Well after the original controversy of their own making, I think they got lucky coming out of that with the label Xbone.. could have been a lot worse.
Also another one for their long list of mistakes tbh.. nobody is going to call it the Xbox One constantly, they should have attempted to use a shortened version at their unveiling instead of going TV TV SPORTS TV TV. I'd have went with X1 personally.
On the next article, Penelo says the Xbox One can sell 400 million to 1 billion because it can do TV and therefore it can be sold to a wider audience than just gamers.
So yeah, don't call it a gaming console, that's an offensive term now, call it an Xbox TV.
Do you think he would've had the same reaction if gamers nicknamed it Xbwon?
XB is Xbox and the ONE is 1 or ONE. XB-ONE if they named the thing XB720 or XB3 like they should have done people would've abbreviated it the same way. The only difference is the number wouldn't have combined with the B to make the word "BONE." Look at these XBThree, XBIII, XB3, or XB720
It all depends on the reaction of the reader. If the writer is recognized as hostile or snarky xbone is seen as X-bone. If the writer seen as level headed, neutral and constructive then the reader might be seen it as X-Box-One.
At times of controversy/bias when people feel entitled or defensive they may overreact. They can and often do take offense no matter how subtle the context is written.
It's like those pictures where some people see faces while others see 2 wine glasses.
Lol, true. BTW, surrounding all of these MS bad press these past couple of months, where's Aaron Greenburg aka Annoy Greenburger, because he was totally annoying at the time, now he's nowhere to be seen,that was bragging about how awesome 360 and was and that Blu-Ray isn't needed, I would like his excuse this time.
Angry Joe was being very courteous. He was asking hard and direct questions (some from fans), yes, but Nelson didn't conduct himself in a professional manner. The video shows it.
At 7:30, the Microsoft staff force Joe to switch his question because they were giving him dirty looks. At 11:35, Nelson takes the microphone away from Joe because he was asked a legitimate question. How exactly is Joe being unprofessional when the Microsoft staff and Nelson were treating him like so coldly?
Well said & I agree. This should be common knowledge by now, at least to people who post here. Sadly, it seems that even Larry doesn't get why people have went from pissed to not giving one rat turd about the "Xbone".
Someone asked him about it and he answered honestly, geez.
If you spent several years working with teams that worked very hard to bring something to market only to have someone make a slang name for it, you'd probably be unhappy too.
I still wondering about why they come up with the name i have 2 reason. One As in going back to old Xbox witch pretty daft as the old Xbox was great robust self upgradable console but looks nothin like New Xbox. Two. XBOX ONE What if we miss seeing the name wrong they trying to actually make a statement by saying Xbox Won eaither way it's stupid. But something to think about Old Xbox or a comment to Sony they won last gen or perhaps they feel they gonna win this gen.?
So if you don't like something, then its name calling. Ooook.
Whether you agree with past policies or not is not the issue. Lots of people put hard work into the xbox one and they deserve at least that bit of respect.
Are you saying you don't respect people around you? Or is this just the stance you take on the internet where someone can't pop you? If you don't have just a little respect for other people you must live a sorry life.
Frankly, no one cares for your opinion. I also don't remember anyone going all the way to the PS4 forums and finding you specifically and asking you. Do you not have a life? Why be on Xbox One forums? Go back to the PS4 forums.
What is your problem? I'll never understand people like you, complaining MS is disrespectful to gamers and whatever. MS brings a lot of awesome games, games we would never be able to play if they wouldn't put out money for it, for their own studios or ones they bought. If you don't like XO then don't buy it, stop bragging! You think sony or nintendo respects you more? Good for you get their console. Some of us like to have options and are not affected by things that concern you. You people have to chill the f out.
MS is disrespectful to gamers. Their policies proved they didn't give a damn about gamers. They only changed them because the casual audience found out how badly they'd be screwed thanks to Jimmy Fallon and the fact they were getting no pre-orders. The content MS goes for is largely 3rd party based, so it's not something that THEY themselves are bringing to the table. Nintendo and Sony show more respect to gamers than Microsoft ever have or ever will.
MS, SOny and Nintendo don't care about gamers, they care only about profits. If being nice to a gamer give them profit, they are nice. Stop thinking Sony or Nintendo loves you. They love your money. If you think otherwise you are just silly. If you go to restaurant, you think the owners give a sh!t about you? They just want to get money from you that's all. Just because MS had other vision of future gaming (digital) doesn't mean they're any worse than other company. They still bring great titles and great innovation.
Your claim is baseless, is an arguement over semantic. "No company loves you, they love your money". Who Cares? I've been pissed at all 3 (MS, Sony, and Nintendo) but in my experience Nintendo and Sony are the ones catering to people that buy their hardware. MS however entered the console designing business just to diversify their portfolio, and try to lockdown another market, which was enable by 360's success. However if any one cared to look at it, MS doesn't give a damn about consumers at all. Look at the 360 hardware, launched with critcal system failure bugs (RROD), why because MS only mindframe was to take down Sony and own the console market, not about innovation or consumers, about getting your money as you so eloquently phrase it. Too further that thought, when MS had the success could've capped off Sony, what did they do? Abandoned what got them there in the first place, going away from the Hardcore gamers that put them in the lead and starting going to a casual gaming market that is doing decent but not going to keep them in front.
Let's move to the Xbox One. The system doesn't look bad, however its the same MS policies that deter them. Going for the complete Entertainment system was put at the forefront. While this was Sony's claim for the PS3, MS adapted as well trying to take Sony down, smartly tho Sony started to shy away from the "Entertainment Station" and kept their 1st party studios banging out games people wanted to play, meanwhile MS took the "Entertainment Station" and ran with it. PS4 is announced and MS feels compelled to announce their system, instead of taking the time to make sure everything is in order, they come up with advertisements about X1 being able to watch TV, infuriating gamers everywhere.
The DRM policies show the lack of care for the consumer and thus I didn't speak on that but its quite clear, to me at least, that MS is solely about owning a market, not just getting money (They have tons of it already) and only competes with Sony, as instead of the Console market as a whole. MS throws money at their problems is why they can do whatever they want, but that thought alone should bring about the question what is "MS doing to further console gaming, giving they have resources to impact the market ?".
IMHO MS biggest accomplishment was Xbox Live, creating a smooth internet infrastructure, that gamers could play seamlessly. Sony and Nintendo didn't have that. To me ts the only thing MS did to improve console gaming. Its the biggest appeal to this day for MS. But even this isn't going to carry them through. But to touch base back on topic, MS plans are for markets however Sony and Nintendo, are for profits. They are catering to target audiences to in turn get their product sold true. The difference is tho, Sony and Nintendo are doing things for the future, planting seeds, cultivating the console market, while MS does things to seize the market, they want to monopolize it. And while we do see advances because of competition, Sony and Nintendo needs to stay relevant to keep movement forward. And lastly that is exactly what consumers are starting to see.
@BallsEye: The difference between MS and Sony/Nintendo is that Sony/Nintendo care about our money and try to get it by working for us. Microsoft act like they already own our money and our handing it to them is merely a formality.
You can try to deflect by saying none of the companies "love us" but of the 3, which one of the companies have put forth the message of being for gamers? Which of the 3 have put forth the work and effort to gain gamer confidence? Which of the 3 have put forth the effort to make developers happy so that they in turn can make gamers happy?
Basically, which of the 3 are going for the theme of happiness and which of the 3 are going for the theme of "we know what's good for you?"
Answer: MS is the latter, Sony (and to a lesser extend Nintendo) are the former.
i used to like this guy,cant stand him now with all the bull he spouts,cant trust the company he works for either.
the thing is what gets me is all this supposedly amazing stuff coming to XBONE is america only stuff,rest of world is gonna get shafted and half the features arnt there. so screw minor nelson with ya xbone
@angels3785 Right on!!!! Man that's what I'm talking about!!! micro$oft is lucky that they're selling ANY xbones. The sheep will buy anything that micro$oft sells and love anything that micro$oft does to them. The rest of us don't like having a spy camera in our living room nor do we like being screwed over. Man Angels you are spot on.
Does anyone here remember window's vista? I know it's not there games division but it points to the thinking of the company as a whole. They have no problems with releasing the beta version of something and charging you full price for it. My favorite MS policy these days is to force windows 8 (an OS obviously created with tablets in mind) on to regular assed laptops and pc's that don't have any kind of touch screen functions.
Without a doubt, this was a very rough year for Microsoft, but they only brought this on themselves. In the technological age we are in, there is a plethora of internet users who voice their opinion loudly and do so as they wish. Since the policies for Xbox One were unpopular, of course they would get criticized and mocked.
Personally, I don't believe anything that Major Nelson says. He isn't exactly a reliable source for Microsoft. This was the guy who tweeted that Metal Gear Solid V was exclusive to Xbox One and that the DRM for the system cannot be "switched off". Less than 48 hours on both occasions and he is proven wrong. He's like Cliffy B when it comes to tweeting; he should not tweet.
Couldn't agree with you more. The shit they tried to pull is ridiculous so their console can now be called the X-BONE forever. Maybe they should have picked a better name.
I wonder about this other guy, Annoy Greenburger, I mean, Aaron Greenburg, bragging how 360 was doing this and that over any other console, and that Blu-Ray wasn't needed, I would like to see what's his excuse this time around, he was to me the most annoying Microsoft employee ever.
This guy really needs to shut up he is pure bad PR right now and making himself look like a fool. 360 generation he was a fan favourite but hes turning into a grumpy fool who's not doing himself nor Microsoft any favours. Sometimes you just gotta learn to shut up.
He's right that it's usually meant in a disrespectful way, but they should have thought of that when they picked the name. How long did it take for that nickname to appear? Not long at all.
It is disrespectful but I just think of it as XB One lol
Microsoft has showed some great games and are looking out for casuals too. But gaming still comes 1st to them. They deserve respect
And before y'all give me that they abandoned the 360 crap they simply moved titles to the One. They don't have as many studios as Sony but they are buying more.
They still showed a few games it was a hardware reveal to talk about the features. They showed great looking games at E3, bought 5 new studios, spent a billion on exclusives and spent billions on the modified graphics tech from IBM/AMD
"And before y'all give me that they abandoned the 360 crap they simply moved titles to the One. They don't have as many studios as Sony but they are buying more."
So..they didn't abandon the 360? I'm not sure what your point is, Sony hasn't left the PS3 in the dust, some of the best titles ever to be released on PS3 have come in the last year, whereas on 360 there has been nothing. If you think the fact that MS moved development from 360 to Xbone is anything that should be touted as being "pro gamer" you are sadly mistaken. The 360 has been barren for almost 2 years, yet on PS3 there have been amazing games, and many amazing games coming to PS4. All you hardcore MS fans go on about the deep pockets of MS, yet they dropped the 360 almost as fast as they did with the original xbox, If the xbone isn't a smashing success guess what..... MS is clearly thinking short term, while Sony has shown they think long term.
You know, I think the entire gaming community should just call it Xbox Infinity. Predominately, people agree this should of been the name. If everyone wants to call it something different, why not Infinity.
It would have fitted just as well as "One". They could have had something like "Xbox Infinity, infinite possibilities." since they want to convey their product as the center of everything.
Xbox = Xbox (couldn't be more simple) Xbox 360 = Xbox 360 (360 just doesn't say enough) Xbox One = Xbone (Thanks for naming it something we can abbreviate)
They should have thought about it when they choose that name. And no , a message to the journalist doesn't work ...your surname comes also from what your consummers think of your product.
i think it was disrespectful when u told customers who wanted the xbone before the drm changed to buy a 360 and to not care that soldiers wouldnt be able to play offline in some parts of the world or not care for what the customer wanted only changed because microsoft didnt want to lose money
im talking about Microsoft i meant to put Microsoft but wouldnt let me edit it don mattrick rep the company as a whole being the main guy at the time but didnt see major nelson not agreeing with him he didnt comment on it so i think its disrespectful of him not to
Doesn't mean they're automatically a fanboy. It could mean MS "disrespected" them so badly & announced beforehand they would bone them; with no lube. So, they decided on a PS4, a console that embraced what they wanted & immediately took to the phrase "Xbone" (yes I did). I loved the phrase as soon as I saw it. It fits so well & explains the future MS wanted. It also fits now, in the shambled state its in. It is to me a bone. You can write me off as a fanboy if you want but MS drove me away & offered something repugnant.
If you're singling out just one company in the gaming industry for their evil deeds you're clearly a fanboy living in a glass house. I can write a laundry list a mile long detailing the obvious misdeeds of Sony, Nintendo, Sega, Atari and even Apple.
Fair enough. But, I single them out because they have fallen so far, done about everything they could to drive me away from Xbox & XBL. Congrats to them. I do realize Sony could 180 anytime but I feel alot more confident in casting my lot with them. MS is getting exactly what they have brought on themselves. I don't feel sorry for them at all. Hopefully they will learn & do better with XBtwo. It seems Sony learned & tailored the PS4 accordingly; for the most part.
Lol When I saw the reveal and saw the name I just smacked myself on the forehead the name is one of the stupidest console names I heard but idc if it was called the s**t box if it has good games and great multiplayer I will be just fine with it
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Why would you think it's disrespectful? What respect does a console have? Especially one that isn't out yet and has gotten nothing but negative attention. Besides, the rules of nicknames are that you don't get to pick them. If it sticks, you're stuck with it.
https://www.youtube.com/wat...
Shut it Nelson, know one gives a furrrk!
Let's start calling it the Xboner.
But that my friends is only a myth.. .. .. . So they say.. ..
It should be Xone if anything.
It is just as stupid as calling the PS4, PlS4.
Just stop you sound stupid the ps3 isn't perfect but to say your Xbox fan because of price, lack of games for three years, you sound like hypocrite look at Xbox higher in price range and haven't really supported the console for three years only a few AAA titles. Not to mention an Xbox Exec said if you didn't have Internet buy a 360 when the X1 had its 24 hour check in. Point is both made mistakes and your company have committed the same crimes you hate Sony for.
On topic:
How many Major Nelson articles are we gona get. We get it Nelson you like the X1 now get off the sack man and shut up already. Xbone Wow!
Yeah STFU and #dealwithit
No offense major but...whoever came up with the "xbox one" name was an 'xbone' head.
It does work the same way Playstation is one word yet its called PS1-4 not P3 or P4.
No one including Sony writes out it out as Play Station
Actually it's not "Playstation". It's PlayStation.
Decisions, decisions....
...Or like Microsoft its not MicroSoft.. yet we still use MS
"Nelson" has proven that he only says what MS wants him too.
But what a daft name to begin with. Every one expected 720 or Infinity but some bright spark thought of this. It really does open you up to insults:
XBone
You've just been XBoned - by MS!
Is that a XBoner in your living room - or are you just happy to see me?
Moaning just makes it worse - has this guy got nothing better to do for the next 2 months?
No matter how hard I try, I cannot see a positive outcome.
Even people that I know in person who are buying an Xbox One call it X-Bone jokingly.
The Sony nicknames aren't as widely used. Haven't become practically automatic.
I agree, it's no coincidence that he may have recently joined NeoGaf. He could even be a member on N4G hiding under an assumed name.
His job is to promote the Microsoft products. IMHO Microsoft must be placing him on a few popular forums and news sites to interact/sway people who don't follow/comment on his Twitter feeds.
I honestly think that's a mistake IMHO he needs replaced ASAP. Why? Even though he does what he's paid to do IMHO his reputation is all but destroyed. A lot of people despise him and the company he works for.
Having someone who's infamous for deception working at the top of the public relations is as far as I'm concerned a big negative. They need to get someone new in there that's fresh. Someone who isn't tainted by their past.
Sure people will still have negative views of the company and its polices but the stigma from a tainted public relations representative or CEO is something that can seriously hurt any company in it's market.
People are fickle, when screwed with most don't forgive or forget easily, especially with the internet and its social impact. If you have a representative that has high negative marks on their name they have very little respect from the community when they speak. In fact the most common reaction is hostile if the reputation is low enough.
Microsoft needs to replace this guy so they can at least get a fresh start on someone new. They don't need to fire him just put him someplace else or let someone else do PR until things settle down.
I know if I was in the public EYE caught on camera doing/saying something for a company that pissed people off the last thing I'd want is to add fuel to the fire. This is exactly why I think he needs to go on a long vacation.
Honestly, if I was as some would call a complete Sony fan I'd hit disagree with this comment imminently because it'd be in my interest to see him stay as a representative. If I was a complete Microsoft fan I assume my emotions would be split after reading this comment.
I really can't think to much about it because both companies have tickled my feathers. I suppose it depends on the current situation.
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Also another one for their long list of mistakes tbh.. nobody is going to call it the Xbox One constantly, they should have attempted to use a shortened version at their unveiling instead of going TV TV SPORTS TV TV. I'd have went with X1 personally.
Xbox One
XB One
XBone
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Xbox 360
XB 360
XB360
So yeah, don't call it a gaming console, that's an offensive term now, call it an Xbox TV.
They should just 180 the name anyway they could call it the Xbox One80
XB is Xbox and the ONE is 1 or ONE. XB-ONE if they named the thing XB720 or XB3 like they should have done people would've abbreviated it the same way. The only difference is the number wouldn't have combined with the B to make the word "BONE." Look at these XBThree, XBIII, XB3, or XB720
It all depends on the reaction of the reader. If the writer is recognized as hostile or snarky xbone is seen as X-bone. If the writer seen as level headed, neutral and constructive then the reader might be seen it as X-Box-One.
At times of controversy/bias when people feel entitled or defensive they may overreact. They can and often do take offense no matter how subtle the context is written.
It's like those pictures where some people see faces while others see 2 wine glasses.
I always make sure to capitalise the 'o' ine 'one' to distinguish from the 'XB'. I thinks that's fair.
and it actually works.
I would really like to know who the hell come up with such a "brilliant" name like the Xbox One? That moron should be fired.
Not really my kids are named Bruce lee and Muhammad Ali and they do quite fine
The way they copied the PlayStation naming scheme is disrespectful.
The way they took the success of my favorite console the Xbox 360 and tarnished the entire brand with their arrogance is disrespectful.
The way Major Nelson spoke to Angry Joe and talked down to him like he was a piece of shit and lied to him and LIED TO ALL OF US is disrespectful.
I think the way Major Nelson tells me I can't call the XBone the XBone is DISRESPECTFUL.
FUCK OFF NELSON - YOU ARE DAMAGING THE WHOLE XBOX BRAND.
Angry Joe was being very courteous. He was asking hard and direct questions (some from fans), yes, but Nelson didn't conduct himself in a professional manner. The video shows it.
At 7:30, the Microsoft staff force Joe to switch his question because they were giving him dirty looks. At 11:35, Nelson takes the microphone away from Joe because he was asked a legitimate question. How exactly is Joe being unprofessional when the Microsoft staff and Nelson were treating him like so coldly?
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Sadly, it seems that even Larry doesn't get why people have went from pissed to not giving one rat turd about the "Xbone".
Anyways well said.
If you spent several years working with teams that worked very hard to bring something to market only to have someone make a slang name for it, you'd probably be unhappy too.
One As in going back to old Xbox witch pretty daft as the old Xbox was great robust self upgradable console but looks nothin like New Xbox.
Two. XBOX ONE What if we miss seeing the name wrong they trying to actually make a statement by saying Xbox Won eaither way it's stupid.
But something to think about Old Xbox or a comment to Sony they won last gen or perhaps they feel they gonna win this gen.?
BTW he think hes EPIC Cliff with the Chaingun
Whether you agree with past policies or not is not the issue. Lots of people put hard work into the xbox one and they deserve at least that bit of respect.
What?
Are you saying you don't respect people around you? Or is this just the stance you take on the internet where someone can't pop you? If you don't have just a little respect for other people you must live a sorry life.
MS, SOny and Nintendo don't care about gamers, they care only about profits. If being nice to a gamer give them profit, they are nice. Stop thinking Sony or Nintendo loves you. They love your money. If you think otherwise you are just silly. If you go to restaurant, you think the owners give a sh!t about you? They just want to get money from you that's all. Just because MS had other vision of future gaming (digital) doesn't mean they're any worse than other company. They still bring great titles and great innovation.
Your claim is baseless, is an arguement over semantic. "No company loves you, they love your money". Who Cares? I've been pissed at all 3 (MS, Sony, and Nintendo) but in my experience Nintendo and Sony are the ones catering to people that buy their hardware. MS however entered the console designing business just to diversify their portfolio, and try to lockdown another market, which was enable by 360's success. However if any one cared to look at it, MS doesn't give a damn about consumers at all. Look at the 360 hardware, launched with critcal system failure bugs (RROD), why because MS only mindframe was to take down Sony and own the console market, not about innovation or consumers, about getting your money as you so eloquently phrase it. Too further that thought, when MS had the success could've capped off Sony, what did they do? Abandoned what got them there in the first place, going away from the Hardcore gamers that put them in the lead and starting going to a casual gaming market that is doing decent but not going to keep them in front.
Let's move to the Xbox One. The system doesn't look bad, however its the same MS policies that deter them. Going for the complete Entertainment system was put at the forefront. While this was Sony's claim for the PS3, MS adapted as well trying to take Sony down, smartly tho Sony started to shy away from the "Entertainment Station" and kept their 1st party studios banging out games people wanted to play, meanwhile MS took the "Entertainment Station" and ran with it. PS4 is announced and MS feels compelled to announce their system, instead of taking the time to make sure everything is in order, they come up with advertisements about X1 being able to watch TV, infuriating gamers everywhere.
The DRM policies show the lack of care for the consumer and thus I didn't speak on that but its quite clear, to me at least, that MS is solely about owning a market, not just getting money (They have tons of it already) and only competes with Sony, as instead of the Console market as a whole. MS throws money at their problems is why they can do whatever they want, but that thought alone should bring about the question what is "MS doing to further console gaming, giving they have resources to impact the market ?".
IMHO MS biggest accomplishment was Xbox Live, creating a smooth internet infrastructure, that gamers could play seamlessly. Sony and Nintendo didn't have that. To me ts the only thing MS did to improve console gaming. Its the biggest appeal to this day for MS. But even this isn't going to carry them through. But to touch base back on topic, MS plans are for markets however Sony and Nintendo, are for profits. They are catering to target audiences to in turn get their product sold true. The difference is tho, Sony and Nintendo are doing things for the future, planting seeds, cultivating the console market, while MS does things to seize the market, they want to monopolize it. And while we do see advances because of competition, Sony and Nintendo needs to stay relevant to keep movement forward. And lastly that is exactly what consumers are starting to see.
You can try to deflect by saying none of the companies "love us" but of the 3, which one of the companies have put forth the message of being for gamers? Which of the 3 have put forth the work and effort to gain gamer confidence? Which of the 3 have put forth the effort to make developers happy so that they in turn can make gamers happy?
Basically, which of the 3 are going for the theme of happiness and which of the 3 are going for the theme of "we know what's good for you?"
Answer: MS is the latter, Sony (and to a lesser extend Nintendo) are the former.
the thing is what gets me is all this supposedly amazing stuff coming to XBONE is america only stuff,rest of world is gonna get shafted and half the features arnt there.
so screw minor nelson with ya xbone
Right on!!!! Man that's what I'm talking about!!! micro$oft is lucky that they're selling ANY xbones. The sheep will buy anything that micro$oft sells and love anything that micro$oft does to them. The rest of us don't like having a spy camera in our living room nor do we like being screwed over. Man Angels you are spot on.
XBO, Or XBOne.
Personally, I don't believe anything that Major Nelson says. He isn't exactly a reliable source for Microsoft. This was the guy who tweeted that Metal Gear Solid V was exclusive to Xbox One and that the DRM for the system cannot be "switched off". Less than 48 hours on both occasions and he is proven wrong. He's like Cliffy B when it comes to tweeting; he should not tweet.
Xbone is never gonna go away and it is their fault.
about it
" You can't just flip the switch"
Remember that, you less than intelligent person who somehow gets employed?
FFS people and their brand loyalty goes way to far. Even as an employee this type of statement makes me think there is no hope for some people.
really tho, they tried to bone gamers so that name is fitting.
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deal with it
You guys didn't see anyone at all making fun of that?
Having said that, let's move on.
Microsoft has showed some great games and are looking out for casuals too. But gaming still comes 1st to them. They deserve respect
And before y'all give me that they abandoned the 360 crap they simply moved titles to the One. They don't have as many studios as Sony but they are buying more.
So..they didn't abandon the 360?
I'm not sure what your point is, Sony hasn't left the PS3 in the dust, some of the best titles ever to be released on PS3 have come in the last year, whereas on 360 there has been nothing.
If you think the fact that MS moved development from 360 to Xbone is anything that should be touted as being "pro gamer" you are sadly mistaken.
The 360 has been barren for almost 2 years, yet on PS3 there have been amazing games, and many amazing games coming to PS4.
All you hardcore MS fans go on about the deep pockets of MS, yet they dropped the 360 almost as fast as they did with the original xbox, If the xbone isn't a smashing success guess what.....
MS is clearly thinking short term, while Sony has shown they think long term.
But yeah no excuses PlayStation 4, PS4.
I'm going to go look up PS4 news...
/Travolta.
Xbox 360 = Xbox 360 (360 just doesn't say enough)
Xbox One = Xbone (Thanks for naming it something we can abbreviate)
They should have thought about it when they choose that name.
And no , a message to the journalist doesn't work ...your surname comes also from what your consummers think of your product.
Major Nelson I have a questions sir, "Why so Serious?!"
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B: BOX
One: One
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... Just kidding, lol. We mean Xbone XD.
PS
Calling yourself Major Nelson is disrespectful to the Military everywhere and I Dream of Jeannie.
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It's official! From now on he is MAJOR XBONE!!
However, we're taking etymology lessons from a guy who calls himself "major" nelson? Oh the irony.
I do realize Sony could 180 anytime but I feel alot more confident in casting my lot with them.
MS is getting exactly what they have brought on themselves. I don't feel sorry for them at all. Hopefully they will learn & do better with XBtwo. It seems Sony learned & tailored the PS4 accordingly; for the most part.
the internet knows it All.