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Submitted by FlameHawk 225d ago | opinion piece

5 Reasons Microsoft will Win the Next Generation

BGG - Despite a bumpy start at the first announcement of the system, Xbox One already has a tremendous fan base powered by the tremendous success of Xbox 360, as the most purchased and played console of the current generation. (Xbox One)

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majiebeast  +   225d ago | Well said
Oh my god at reason 2 if this was written by Microsoft PR i would not be surprised holy shit.
Kayant  +   225d ago
^True like she just got a press release and copy & pasted it again. She makes some good points but it just comes off too much like a PR spokesperson with no much of an opinion.

Reason 2 is just stupid *Flexibility* rite. If they didn't change their plans they would have been in for a rude awakening with sales figures considering how many countries they would completely eliminate from radar.

Lmaooo at *1.75 GHz GPU*. See.
CrossingEden  +   225d ago
You people say "oh it's just PR talkh hurrrrr dduuuurrrrrrepppp" About everything that is positively said about xb1, find something more productive to do.
Kryptix  +   225d ago
@CrossingEden
But you're here going almost the same way with everything that is negatively said about the Xbox One.

Reason 2: Flexibility
"Xbox One was revealed to be the first video game console that would require an always online connection and a used game policy that wouldn't allow players to trade in their old games as they have become accustomed to. Microsoft's original plans for the Xbox One were trashed shortly after public outcry following E3 earlier this year, but some analysts in the industry viewed this as a weakness and instability in the company, while it was really a sign of the flexibility the company sustains to alter its plans to remain one of the best gaming consoles around. Meanwhile, the quick turnaround for the upset fan base shows customer loyalty to Microsoft and Xbox One is strong as ever."

It does sound like PR talk. See how she points out that analysts viewed that changing stances on their original plan showed weakness and instability but then she tries to spin it into a good thing? Not only that but she even mentions it was a quick turn around though Microsoft took from May 21st till the first week preorder results after E3 to announce the removal of that DRM.

It's not flexibility, just constant backpedaling with almost no support to their original plan because money talks a lot more than their fans. Fans demanded a clear explanation to their choices before the change but they only gave their fans more confusion. Because of this confusion, pre order numbers and demand were embarrassingly low. Even Major Nelson lied to the whole Xbox community that the DRM cannot be switched off but a week or two later they changed it up.

Till this day, a lot of us don't view it as flexibility, we still don't trust Microsoft. It's not because of the DRM alone, but all the bad explanations given to their actions and all the PR talk covering their tracks.

And don't get me wrong, Sony made the same mistake when the PSN infrastructure went down and Sony were bad at explaining what happened. But during that time, a lot of people lost some trust in them. It took them a while to gain it back and some apologizing. The reason why it's all good now is because after all that, Sony did learn from their mistakes and became better at supporting the community. And till this day it shows that Sony respects their consumers and keep giving what they want, a lot of AAA exclusives. It will take Microsoft a while to be on the good again while having no broken promises. But after 3 years with not a lot of Xbox 360 core gamer support, I don't know. We'll see if they start to learn and if they keep those promises.
SkippyPaccino  +   225d ago
*@crossingEden

Dude, I read the entire thing and...Reason number 2 Lol! (top 5 reason why xbox one is the best. N2 they tried to screw over everyone and they decided not too and are now acting better.)

Thats not a reason LOl! thats just something that really happened...

No one's ever going to say ..."I'm buying a xbox one because they did a reversal...I don't even like the games that they have coming out, but I can't pass up a good reversal LOL!
devwan  +   224d ago
I think they forgot the /s tag on this article
DragonKnight  +   224d ago
Reason number 2 is pretty bad, but also... Kinect? Really? Kinect is a reason Microsoft will win the next generation? The as of yet still unproven peripheral device whose real purpose in the Xbox One isn't even games? That's why MS is going to win?

And then reason number 1. Exclusive games. BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! She hasn't paid attention this gen has she?
sonarus  +   224d ago
A lot of these opinion base articles try to reach beyond their limits. I don't know or care who wins the generation so far as i get good games to play i don't own microsoft stock nor sony stock.

But based on the evidence we have seen so far as far as pre orders, sony will beat Microsoft at least initially. 360 beat ps3 initially but ps3 caught up with the help of europe and other regions so not saying Xbox one has no chance but they will have to work hard like sony worked hard pumping out new game titles and not relying on...HALO 5.

Some of the stuff said here are quite silly too like dead rising being one of the most anticipate zombie games? Dead rising 3 when first showed looked like crap to me. Sure it looks better now after optimisation but the last few dead rising games i played were crap as well so i have no real reason for optimism that the game wnt be crap but could be wrong. I certainly don't see it being a system seller. Titan fall an forza maybe but certainly not ryse or dead rising.
Ritsujun  +   224d ago
Poor Microsofie, Xbosh, Xbone180, and BHb0ts.
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abzdine  +   224d ago
give it the time to be available in all territories before talking BS like this :D
X1 will not be available before february march next year in lots of country while PS4 will already have a confortable install base at that time..

Also, PS4 is destroying X1 worldwide in terms of pre-orders without any of Sony's massive exclusives being announced yet while MS have showed all they had and didn't have.
qzp  +   224d ago
This is the more ridiculous article I've ever read and on n4g that means something.

1. "Dead Rising 3 is one of the most anticipated zombie titles ever" I can think of a few dayz being one of them. I don't know anyone who cares about dead rising.

2. "Microsoft is one of the most successful companies in the world" doesn't mean anything they make is good in fact they are failing right now losing in almost every market they are in, just lose a ceo because of it.

I could go on and on really picking apart this article. A nonamer website with a glowing review of the hated xbox one. I have to wonder how much did they sold out to Microsoft for..
xKugo  +   224d ago
Yea that part is just plain dumb. They didn't even take the time to read through this before publishing it. Had no idea GPU worked off of gigahertz, lmao.

Some of the "journalist" in today's gaming industry should really try to do some independent research instead of 'copy and paste'. In the REAL world, that shit is called plagiarism and will get you in major trouble.
black0o  +   225d ago
MS had a whole year better 3rd party support for the 1st 2 years and a cheaper price tag then Sony did with the PS3
and yet PS3 out selling x360

so dear writers how on earth do think MS will beat Sony with ps4 being cheaper and better spec ???
mt  +   225d ago
cheaper + better spec + released on the same time. I can't imagine what would happen if the xbox1 released year after ps4.
buynit  +   225d ago
You are looking at the small picture... Do you not realise how much market share ms took from sony in one generation! Even after ditching the xbox, rrod and the huge ass whipping the ps2 did..

Its hard for you kids to give credit when its due isnt it..
Pixel_Enemy  +   225d ago
MS NEEDS more articles like this one. The PS4 is selling just fine on it's own without writers telling you why you need to buy it.
fox2   225d ago | Spam
stuna1  +   225d ago
@buynit

Sure Microsoft took away a large market-share from Sony, but with the start of each generation everything resets to zero! Fanbase, Profits and Support, and market shares.

Due to the fact that Sony has the clear advantage as far as popularity goes, not only in the US, but worldwide! It's not beyond reason to believe that Sony will not only regain market shares, but will garner the most this generation.

At this point Sony would have to majorly F-up to stop the momentum they are currently experiencing, and Microsoft would have to travel back in time to before their initial unveiling and have a near perfect presentation to even be on equal ground.

@fox2

I agree it has been a humbling experience for Sony this generation! But them being humbled, it was taken to heart, which is obvious by how Sony is ending this generation, and beginning the next generation.

So what's Microsoft excuse for the last three years of this generation, and how they tried to bring in the start of next generation!?

Seems to me like Sony should have saved a slice of their humble pie, to give to Microsoft!!!!.....
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black0o  +   225d ago
@buynit/fox2 it's all thx to that stupid 599$ price tag, Cell and Wii if sony did with the launch of ps3 what they are doing right now with ps4 it'd been another story
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marcelliuss1  +   225d ago
@black0o.....It's funny that people like you keep on saying that the PS3 is out selling the Xbox360, but yet y'all can't provide any real concrete numbers from Sony.
SkippyPaccino  +   225d ago
@ Fox2

So you're basically saying that Playstation is on pace to sell over a 100 millions consoles for its 3rd generation in a row?

...and xbox hasn't even done it once yet (360 potentially will) plus all total xbox sold from each generation put together barely makes it over 100 millions sold.

When you join the 100 millions club is when xbox will get that credit that you think it deserves...even then
n4rc  +   225d ago
Stuna...

By screw up do you.mean not living up to the unrealistic bs that some of their fans are bragging about already?

Because that's almost a given... Sony would never make some of the claims fanboys make... The people that truly believe all the hype are in for a disappointing holiday..

Sony is playing it cool... Its fans however, are not.. They are making claims Sony can't deliver on..
n4rc  +   225d ago
Yeah... Its really hard to sell 100m when you have virtually no competition...right?

Wii selling what it did was impressive... 360 gaining as much ground as they did it note worthy..

But ps1 and 2? Who didn't own them? Now that they have direct and legitimate competition, sales are evening out.. Its clear as day
rainslacker  +   225d ago
@marcelliuss

I provided concrete numbers directly from Sony in this comment a while back and analyzed it to compare it with Xbox 360 sales. Won't repost it here, so here's a link.

http://n4g.com/news/1333113...

One thing to note since people are bringing up market share, Sony is only down I believe 7-8 million units sold for the same time frame of the PS2's lifetime. Not quite the blow that everyone makes it out to be. Also, everyone is using the term market share incorrectly.

Next time before making statements that insinuate something isn't true perhaps use google to see if they aren't true. It took me less than 5 minutes to come up with that information, as it's readily available on Sony's own website. If you wish to disprove me, do so with a little research, or just click disagree...that'll teach me I guess.
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DragonKnight  +   224d ago
@fox2: It's not a contradiction. Sony's PS4 is currently the most popular console right now, so that's where the indication lies. You can live in the Past all you want to, but it's true that a new gen is also a clean slate and so far the writing on this slate is that PS4 is what people want.

@n4rc: People owned PS1s and PS2s because they had the games they wanted, but if you're trying to say that Nintendo and Sega, then eventually Microsoft, were not direct competition then you have literally no idea what you're talking about and should stop talking until you do.
bigboirock  +   224d ago
Because everyone already owns the 360 and now wants to try the ps3 and I bet a lot would agree that the best games are for both systems anyway like ac4. Ac4 looks funner then both xbox and ps4 exclusives at l launch
Insomnia_84  +   225d ago
One whole year of advantage, huge marketing that led the 360 to become popular, cheaper, and still PS3 sold more worldwide with negative press at the beginning, more expensive, and a year later than the 360. How anyone thinks that the Xbox One will do better than the 360 is beyond my understanding. $100 more expensive, lower specs, huge negativity, and the lack of games with big impact like Gears did back then, far more less exclusives, lack of consumer trust, no one year advantage, releasing in much less regions than PS4 at launch, their old policies DRM and restrictions coming back at a later time.

I seriously don't see this happening. Try to make sense here fanboys!
Death  +   225d ago
Do you ever get tired of making excuses or seeing only what you want to see? Microsoft had a one year advantage? Sony had a fanbase with over 100 million systems sold for 2 consoles generations in a row against Microsofts install base of 24 million. You see that as a level playing field? You were surorised by the PS3's release a year later? You missed the PR media storm of BS before the systems release?

Everything you said, everything you believe is complete BS. You think people lost trust in the Xbox brand, you think price is an issue, you think it's specs. You have no idea why the Xbox 360 gained marketshare while your chosen console has lost it tremendously. You think it was they year they had 8 million unchallenged sales and a media nightmare with the red ring?

You have no idea what you are talking about. You see what you want to see.
MRMagoo123  +   225d ago
Nice try with the spin there death lol but MS lost the last 2 gens and thats all there is to it no matter what you think, MS will lose next gen as well but i can bet you all the money in the world it will be by a larger amount than even MS thinks it will lose by, and i suspect they even know how bad its looking for them.
gamer2013  +   225d ago
Troll post.
Death  +   225d ago
Magoo,

The problem you and many hardcore Sony fans have is you have no idea what winning really is. You think winning is selling more units than the next guy. That's a hollow victory at best when you lose as much market share as Sony has. Microsoft has gone on to sell 60 million more consoles this gen than they did last. Sony has sold 70 million less this gen so far. You see that as a win. Nintendo sold 75 million more. That is a huge win. Nintendo prints cash, Microsoft has done pretty well for themselves and Sony didn't have to borrow money to keep the lights on this year thanks to them selling off some of their headquarters.

The only win we have seen from Sony and as gamers the only win we should worry about is the fact Sony has released some pretty damn good exclusives this gen. Props to Naughty Dog for really finding themselves and taking their craft to the next level. As for the rest, if you call that a win, I'm glad you are not on my team.
rainslacker  +   225d ago
You'd be quite surprised at how there are a lot of people who will want the X1 just because they had the 360 this gen. Not everyone, in fact the majority, aren't as fervent in their console decisions as we are. To many, the fact they are 360 gamers now means the X1 will be appealing to them because it's what they know, and it'll likely have the games they like to play. It is quite likely that many of these buyers are completely oblivious to all the politics that have surrounded the pre-launch of both these consoles. They see "New Xbox" or "New PlayStation", and that's all they need to know.

The massive shift we've seen in forums over popularity aren't completely reflective of the overall spectrum of console owners. These people mentioned above aren't necessarily fan boys, they just stick with what they know, or get what their friends get. We still haven't even seen the major push from MS when it comes to advertising, and anyone who counts out MS is a fool.

I say this as a Sony fan, and think you, as well as some others really take an insular view on the way these systems sell over their entire lifetime. Nothing is set in stone, and to date, we haven't even begun to see these two companies really go after the market. They're going after the gamer, but the rest of the market is much bigger, and cares much less about what we talk about.
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mcstorm  +   224d ago
Wow there must be a lot of people on here with shares in Sony the way they are talking. Who gives a flying f**k how many consoles are sold? Do you just buy a console because it has more power than any other or a console because it is selling more than the other? If you do then you are not a gamer. Every gamer buys a console for one thing and that is games. If you want halo, forza ect you need a Xbox one if you want kz, gt ect you need a ps4 if you want Mario, Zelda ect you need a Wiiu. If you are only interested in 3rd party games then get the one that has all your 3rd party games on or if your just interested in playing online with your mates get the one your mates have the most of.
DragonKnight  +   224d ago
@Death: "Sony had a fanbase with over 100 million systems sold for 2 consoles generations in a row against Microsofts install base of 24 million. You see that as a level playing field?"

Once again, new generation = clean slate. Prior success is never a guarantee thus your usage of this argument is flawed.

"Everything you said, everything you believe is complete BS. You think people lost trust in the Xbox brand, you think price is an issue, you think it's specs. You have no idea why the Xbox 360 gained marketshare while your chosen console has lost it tremendously. You think it was they year they had 8 million unchallenged sales and a media nightmare with the red ring?"

This sounds like Xbox fanboy crying.

"That's a hollow victory at best when you lose as much market share as Sony has. Microsoft has gone on to sell 60 million more consoles this gen than they did last. Sony has sold 70 million less this gen so far."

Take a look at rainslacker's post above. You don't know what you're talking about. Plus, to follow your logic, the PS3 is still on track to sell 100 million consoles making it the 3rd time Sony has done so with a home console. How many times have Microsoft done it?

"and Sony didn't have to borrow money to keep the lights on this year thanks to them selling off some of their headquarters."

More fanboy tears?

"As for the rest, if you call that a win, I'm glad you are not on my team."

So confirmation that you're an Xbox fanboy then right?
Jazz4108  +   224d ago
Do you really think the arrogant Sony for so many years just turned humble. They did it for survival. If the ps4 is not successfull Sony will be gone. They are not doing this for you or for gamers they are doing this to stay alive and it dont take a fanboy to understand that. What sony has going for them is there fans believe anything they say and there financial mess has stayed off sites like n4g for a while now and people forget. There is a war coming between these two consoles and ms could end it today if they wantes to flex there buying power but sony is only a dent in a small fraction of billions of dollars of product they are into and sony has pretty much just the gaming line keeping it alive. If this was ms windows line being attacked and ms stock was declared junk like sonys dont you think ms would be doing everything right to fight for there existence. I hope i put this inperspective to all those that think sony just took a 180 and became humble and acts like you are everything to them. What they are doing is somewhat true but not for the reason Sony fans want you to believe. I welcome any discussion that proves me wrong. I will own both consoles because im a gamer not because i listen to the fudd from both pr departments and live on gaming websites as that would be fiction. Now lets learn the truth asto why sony and ms are acting the way they have been.
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seedaripper1973  +   224d ago
Microsoft are cunts...ask Nokia.
GT67  +   225d ago
5 reason microsoft will win this generation

PR people must be drunk or paid well to manipulate blind uneducated gamers thinking this will actually happen.

"where is my OLD ENGLISH 40 OZ i'll believe it then."
stuna1  +   225d ago
@GT67

Man! Where you from? Lol, those were the good old times. Do they still make that?

OT: You are right though! We all know the Xbox1 is going to sell, they have garnered a fanbase, no matter how mis-guided and deluded they may seem at times! I'm sure we appear that way to them as well at times.

What people don't seem to take into regard is..... There are some glaring differences as to how each console maker treats their fanbases, and they all have made their mis-steps in the past, but sizing each one up in comparison to another, Microsoft has been the most anti-consumerist out of the bunch with their policies.

@fox2

Explain to me how that is a contradiction!? As of now isn't the PS4 leading in pre-orders!? Are not developers praising the capabilities of the PS4!? Is it not garnering the most positive reaction from gamers in general!? Has it not insome ways caused Microsoft higher ups to model the Xbox1 to mimic certain aspects after the PS4, so as be able to compete!?

If you can say yes to any of those questions, then it can't be a contradiction.
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walkincarpet  +   225d ago
yup, number 2 is definitely on the strange side. I would have replaced it with best controller or xbox live. Other four points are good but lacking details why X1 dominates in those categories.
mistertwoturbo  +   225d ago
Yeah it's 1.75ghz cpu not gpu. Shows how informed these bloggers are.
johndoe11211  +   225d ago
"the tremendous success of Xbox 360, as the most purchased and played console of the current generation."

The minute I saw this line I stopped reading. Nothing to see here.
ToffeeNoseNelson  +   224d ago
Same here as soon as I read that I closed the page down because I knew it would be nothing but lies/spin.
darkride66  +   225d ago
Is it just me or do these "Xbox One is going to win" articles always appear to come in waves? Am I just imagining that or has anyone else noticed? There will be nothing and then over a couple of days you'll see 5-6, then nothing again for weeks, then 5-6 in a day or two. More negative articles seem to be a bit more consistent, but the overly positive ones seem to come in spurts.

Maybe it's just me.

Anyway, this article is just ridiculous. I have nothing against these type of articles if you want to objectively look at the features and compare them to the competition to make your case, but this entire article seems to believe the Xbox One exists in some kind of bubble where it's competition either doesn't exist or doesn't have anything that's comparable. It's just half assed, in my opinion.

Innovation. Because of it's ability to run multiple apps, because graphics are improved, smartglass and hdmi input? Really? Really?

Kinect 2.0! Yeah, perhaps wait and see how it's utilized before you go bragging about how it's a game changer. It's not. It has potential, but so did Kinect 1.0. It sold a lot, then sold nothing and we saw a lot of dance games. Seen anything you'd care to share as to why we should suddenly expect differently?

Resources! So basically, Microsoft is awesome is your argument here? Ok then.

Flexibility! Everyone hated it, but then they changed everything. See how they're flexible? This is a good thing that they had it so very, very wrong from the start?

Exclusives! The XBox One is the only console with exclusives! Game over! Hate to break it to you but other consoles have exclusives to, and it just comes down to a matter of taste.

Seriously, I'm far from an Xbox One booster but I could come up with a better, more thought out list of advantages the Xbox One has over it's competition in my sleep.

Just amateurish all around.
rainslacker  +   225d ago
Maybe MS PR team is taking a 3 day weekend so they have to push out some extra stuff into the media?

However, in this case, I think this blogger is just a fangirl who can't really analyze the situation deeply enough to really say anything of merit. Number 2 was the most ludicrous reason I've ever seen. When has MS ever been flexible? Hell it took almost 2 years to get a start menu back in Windows.
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stuna1  +   225d ago
@darkride66

That was just plain wrong! Lol
You didn't have to chew that article up like that.

You probably would have been better off writing up the article! It kind of reminded me of the old Duck Hunt game with the light gun, the way you were shooting down her points.
Studio-YaMi  +   225d ago
Seriously I just lol when I read number 2 !
Who employed this girl to be Microsoft's spokesman(woman) !?

She sure sprinkled that second reason REALLY good.
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PSVita  +   225d ago
The "reasons" aren't reasons at all!

"Flexibility"

no they realize people were smart enough to not buy a console with a completely unclear policy on used game and that required you to connect every 24 hrs in order play the games you already own.

"Allocation of resources"

Hardware has been the key to the xbox's success....really?

I could go on but the title should say why the Xbox will be fine next gen not that lll win. That's just laughable.
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ShwankyShpanky  +   225d ago
5)"The console is the first gaming console to feature an HDMI input device [okay], the first system to announce external storage support [date of implementation: TBD] and has added an improved 1.75 GHz GPU late in the console's production cycle [PS4 clock still TBD]. Xbox One will support plenty of new features including important enhancements like quicker loading times [PS4 won't?], greater graphical output [PS4 won't?], an ability to switch between apps and games effortlessly [PS4 won't?] and even an ability to run multiple programs at once [PS4 won't?]. The company has recently announced even more features that will make Xbox One a unique console to own such as Smart Glass integration [PS4 doesn't have 2nd screen apps? Vita? Remote Play?] and cloud-based gaming [which is different from OpenStack because?]."

3) So I'm not really clear... is the author implying that I should buy an Xbone because MS came up with Achievements, or because they have a lot of money?

2) "the quick turnaround for the upset fan base shows customer loyalty to Microsoft and Xbox One is strong as ever." [denial ain't a river in Egypt, hun]

1) Same old subjective "better gaemz!" noise.

But this one's gotta be the best:

4)"1:1 movement ratio recognition that will make the device virtually lag free between players' movements and what is registered in games"

haw

haw

haw

Sorry, but I've seen the Fighter Within demos.

I would be pretty surprised if it was *not* written by a PR agency. The the vague and misleading (listing a bunch of features the competition also has as reasons MS will "win the next generation") writing style oozes propaganda in the original vein of Bernays.
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ShwankyShpanky  +   225d ago
P.S. OpenStack:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
"More than 200 companies joined the project among which are AMD, Brocade Communications Systems, Canonical, Cisco, Dell, EMC, Ericsson, Groupe Bull, HP, IBM, Inktank, Intel, NEC, Rackspace Hosting, Red Hat, SUSE Linux, VMware, and Yahoo!"
negative  +   224d ago
Butthurt thanks to the truth. Eh N4G????

LOL
nosferatuzodd  +   224d ago
indeed boy Microsoft suck ups are coming out their hiding places like roach
Volkama  +   224d ago
Here's my 5 reasons I don't really care who "wins":
1. I just want to play new games on both consoles.
2.

Ok I only have 1 reason. Is it November yet?
Ksar  +   225d ago
Haters gonna hate.
ZodTheRipper  +   225d ago
And fanboys gonna defend, so what?
ZHZ90  +   225d ago
You never get bored from this do you, Ksar?

Get a life.
corvusmd  +   225d ago
Says the kid trolling an article based on a system he doesn't like
YNWA96  +   225d ago
C'mon, for someone who has no intention in getting an Xbox1, spending all day in Xbox articles telling someone else to get a life...... Who cares if Ps sells more... Not the end of my world, but I wonder if all you guys would jump off a cliff if Xbox sold more.... Tragic..and you called me a troll ZHZ??
ZHZ90  +   225d ago
That is not your concern about me being in Xbox articles, you trolled me with your 1st PM btw. Grow up you are being so sensitive because I called you that.

@corvusmd, I am not trolling. Ksar has been doing it writing comments that tries to make fire with PS fans every time.
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M-M  +   225d ago
I really wish trolls like you get banned. At least some of the other trolls are funny, it looks like you're just wasting your own time to be honest.
rainslacker  +   225d ago
What's your point? That's like saying Lovers gonna love.
ps3vita4life  +   225d ago
LOL! You're kidding, right? You don't possibly think xbone is going to win because of exclusives. A company known to abandon the hardcore gamers and bank off of two or three franchises. Please, try harder!
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thrust  +   225d ago
What your not getting is hardcore gamers are a very small minority, there are billions of people out there look at the wii!
Chevalier  +   225d ago
Hatdcore gamers spend way more money then the casual crowd so I don't see how that helps your arguement. Casual gamers buying 10 million kinect didn't even help 360.
duducus  +   225d ago
Wii was still focused on games... Eyyyy!...
thrust  +   225d ago
Spend way more money? He was talking about the console not the software!

I still stand by what I said hardcore gamers if there is a thing (pretty sad go out get a girl/boy to be wife/husband) are a very very small minority, casuals and family's are a far far bigger market any business that ignores this is stupid.

The wii casuals all bought that and it won current gen and that is a fact makes your argument helpless.

Duducus yes but motion games like what kinect is doing, kids love it which = family's buying it for family fun.
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AceofStaves  +   225d ago
@Thrust - true, but I doubt casuals are going to fork over $500 for XB1 if there are cheaper alternatives. Casuals aren't interested in specs. They won't care about PS4's RAM or XB1's dedicated servers or Cloud power. They'll want the cheapest system they can play CoD/FIFA/Madden on. Not to mention that Sony is releasing in more territories at launch.

MS also has an uphill battle justifying the higher price outside the U.S., since it's entertainment/sports/TV deals are primarily only for the U.S.
walkincarpet  +   225d ago
don't forget muliplats will always be better on xbox because of the controller and xbox live except now the gap will widen further with Kinect and Cloud. As far as exclusives go Sony gets the nod with its sheer volumes. MS claims they are focusing on 1st party and they are, but I want to see how this plays out in three years when Sony releases its big guns. Both systems will rock!
AceofStaves  +   225d ago
Preference for a console's controller is a personal opinion, though. Playstation's controller isn't better than XBox's controller, and vice-versa. You may find one more comfortable, but that's subjective.
joecanada  +   225d ago
There are plenty of custom controllers out there, worst argument ever
NatureOfLogic  +   225d ago
"Haters gonna hate" ...... Hate on inferior hardware with less features and games. Yes, something surely to be truly envious of./s
Mr1Y  +   225d ago
What less features do you speak of ? Is it the feature with the psp? Or what is it ?
thetruthx1  +   225d ago
Haha "Inferior hardware" wait until you see what Microsoft has been marinating on all this time ;)

And all I keep seeing are people comparing old specs
ZodTheRipper  +   225d ago
First it was the cloud, now Xboxts are convinced that M$ will magically change their specs significantly ...very funny indeed.
thetruthx1  +   225d ago
@zod18 Will you still have an account here after 9/29 because I'd love to hear what you have to say then

Move engines: Not accounted for

15 co processors, 7 for graphics: Not accounted for

And a possible dgpu
Caleb_H  +   225d ago
@thetruth, if xbox one did have superior specs, then why on earth would MS be hiding that? It's just a bunch of crap you x1 fanboy's cooked up in your kitchen of jealousy. Btw, what happened to, "specs don't matter"?
scott182  +   225d ago
Devs working on battlefield said they were very similar hardware wise... and they probably are. we are all lying to ourselves if we think there is a big difference for either console. It's up to first party devs to take games further.
stuna1  +   225d ago
@zod

I say let him believe what he believes! Things unaccounted for seem to make people think that, after everything is finally revealed that it will significantly push the Xbox1 power over the PS4! That somewhere inside the Xbox1, there is a dgpu that as of now is unaccounted for! Not 5, not 10, but 15 co processors that haven't been accounted for!

I would think, with that type of hardware.... It would significantly boost not only the system, but the price tag right along with it! So although Microsoft would be shooting for the moon, the price tag would be right along for the ride.

The Kinect 2.0 would make the trip to the moon the shortest trip in recorded history, by another significant cost to another aready significantly higher cost!!! This would ensure that the Xbox1 wouldn't sell for nothing less than $600, and that would be at a huge loss.

I guess thetruthx1 really believes that Microsoft is willing to eat that cost!? Me on the other hand don't see that going over to well with the Investors Board. Even having all those ducks lined up in a neat little row, the fact that the Xbox1 is only launching in only 13 countries initially .........truth you do the math.
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Death  +   225d ago
@Stuna

Hardware has always sold at a loss with software sales softening the blow early in the consoles life cycle. By your own logic, if the PS4 is simply better hardware at a cheaper price, wouldn't their investors make the same arguement?
stuna1  +   225d ago
@Death

I understand consoles sell at a loss! I use Sony as an example, the PS3 on launch was taking like a $350 to $450 loss on release, and that's no stretch, I'm almost sure it was significantly more! because at the time Blu Ray players were $1000 on the market yet the PS3 had one built in! The Cell was untested technology at the time which made the loss even bigger! So big in fact Sony had to cut the price immediately. We know this to be true from all the things out from revisions, although fanatics and fanboys alike choose to believe otherwise, in simplest terms, the PS3 price was killing Sony.

With the PS4, sure they are accruing a loss, but nowhere on the scale like the PS3, thereby making it more manageable! I think by the PS4 become profitable sooner, it bring Sony one step closer to undoing the damages done this generation.

Microsoft on the other hand seems to be headed down the same path that Sony went this generation, releasing a higher priced console is just one the early warning signs!

In answering your question! Would you rather eat $100 a console in cost, as opposed to $300 a console in cost!? Mind you no fanbase has been established, this are first manufactured shipment, obviously a rational person would go with the lower cost unless they stand to gain something of greater value! The problem is I'm just not seeing it in Microsofts strategy. Released in fewer countries, lower specs, major back-peddling, just to name a few.
ziggurcat  +   225d ago
"Move engines: Not accounted for

15 co processors, 7 for graphics: Not accounted for

And a possible dgpu"

based on what information? the ramblings of a delusional moron?

none of that is actually going to happen. remember when xbone was supposed to have kaverti (or whatever the hell it's called) that turned out to not be true at all?

the question really is: will you still have an account here when you will be proven to be horribly wrong? would you still like some assistance in removing that gigantic foot from your mouth?
brianunfried  +   225d ago
Same specs, just some overclocking. Which equals more heat, higher risk of failure and shorter chip lifespan.
Death  +   225d ago
If only they would have thought to make the system larger for improved cooling with an external power supply, then they could "overclock" the system like PC users. Good call on avoiding the obvious to focus on the bs.
moparful99  +   224d ago
@death the 360 had a large case and an external power supply yet suffered the worst failure rate of any gaming console in history.. Funny how that works..
mkis007  +   225d ago
Hate to break the news to you, but MS already confirmed they will be breaking even or maybe a slight loss at launch. This isn't remotely possible if a dgpu as powerful as you people are claiming is actually in there. Sorry. Way too costly.
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Nekroo91  +   225d ago
when Penello already said that they are the best at software development because they created directx etc and they re not giving 30%plus advantage at the ps4 because they can code the games why are you, who dosent work at MS talking BS.
Yes the xbox as inferior hardware, even they already said it
stop dreaming
rainslacker  +   225d ago
Wouldn't now be a good time for them to show us that? I mean it's pretty close to launch, and they are trying to sell a console after all. I'm all for holding something back but holding everything back is not them marinating something.

I've been around for a long time, and know MS makes grand promises that they rarely ever fulfill.
ShwankyShpanky  +   225d ago
Why don't you tell us what they've been "marinating on," since your statement implies intimate personal knowledge?

Oh... because you're out of bubbles.
DJMarty  +   225d ago
LOL, no wonder that PAYBOX ONE is HUGE, it's gonna melt with it's bullsh#t specs.

15 co-processors and a discret GPU.

Xbots are gullable fools....LOL
thrust  +   225d ago
So all people who choose Xbox first are fools? Hmmm ok!

Am getting the Xbox one first and the ps4 later next year.

I can tell you now that the ps4 will sell more no doubt about it, but what does that matter?
Jyndal  +   225d ago
It matters quite a bit when MS decides to get out of the console market after this piece of trash doesn't bring in the money they're expecting.

Sony's gonna run 'em off with the PS4!
thrust  +   225d ago
Really? Trash? Hahaha guess you have not even looked at what the Xbox one can do?

If you had you would see it the same as the ps4 so logic says you are saying they are both trash?
joel_c17  +   225d ago
Haven't MS come last in every gen? Now they are going to come first? It would be a pretty big turn around
xReDeMpTiOnx  +   225d ago
They won't win next gen.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the x1 is Microsofts last home console if ps4 demolishes it in NA and EU taking away its only successful markets.

Especially conseidering how much job changes have been happening lately.

Stockholders and all eyes are gonna be on the big new Xbox push for Microsoft and of they blow it then Xbox might be done.
cyclindk  +   225d ago
From an entirely unbiased perspective... I can honestly say I cannot think of a single one apart from, blind fan loyalty.

During PS2 days, I got a Cube because it had some games that interested me.

PS3 days, the 360 as with Xbox didn't have much to offer game-wise (games that I cared about) OR additional functionality (Blue ray, web browser, free online, et cetera) that would justify a purchase.

Now, Xbox One supposed to be the media hub and it just doesn't do anything (apart from whatever tv functionality it has, I don't watch television so...) more than the competition game-wise or for the price, flip flopping on top of it all and the policies at the outset and Micros track record to boot....

I really just cannot justify investing any money into an Xbox One and I WISH there actually was an incentive for me, I like choice.

So if my alternatives are an Xbox One and a Wii U, PS4 IS the only option for me and I would say "sadly" if the PS4 wasn't such an attractive option thankfully.

I think both Nintendo and Microsoft dropped the ball this round as far as missed opportunities go, despite how they fair in the end. Nintendo could have had the biggest head start, but oh well.
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EXVirtual  +   225d ago
NO. Just no. MS will not win the next gen. If things go the way I think they will, the Wii U will outsell the XB1. Like seriously? The 360 had better multiplats for a while, a $200 price advantage and came out a whole year earlier. It still came last. So there is not a chance in hell that the XB1 will win next gen. And no! That thing will NOT have two GPUs. Ok?! That stupid volcano GPU thing that fanboy Misterx or whatever was spewing is BS. If did have that thing, the XB1 would turn into a volcano!
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trouble_bubble  +   225d ago
Isn't this the same site that gave TLOU 7/10 and games like Deadpool and TMNT: OOTS 8.5/10?! The Smurfs 2 = 7.5/10? omfg lol.
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CalibriSerif  +   225d ago
1. 100 dollars more expensive
2. Spycam
3. The powa of the cloud
4. Weaker specs
5. Dat power brick and AA batteries

5 reasons xbox will win... says by an id!0t
ricochetmg  +   225d ago
The weaker specs are subject to the user. If you wanted to have the best graphics time and time agian PC is the way to go.
ShwankyShpanky  +   225d ago
Specs are subjective only in the platforms' relation to the others.

PC > PS4 > Xbone > PS3 > 360 > Xbox > PS2
Adropacrich2  +   225d ago
I must admit to thinking ms had basically thrown it's momentum out the window but when I look now at the direction they've taken, it's a more sensible approach. I don't want a more powerful 360 in xb1 which is exactly what I thought it would be. I don't want just a repeat of the past 7 years albeit looking much prettier. In that sense xb1 is poised for great things no doubt
corvusmd  +   225d ago
Every one of these points is valid. PS4 will take a quick lead no doubt, but once the anticipation wears off, people will see that it's not as great as it was supposed to be, and that it was all just PR hype. They will get sick of paying to play on a sub-par network when they see their friends playing on XBL. Things will even out, I dont think either system will crush the other....time will even things out. The only people nowadays writing bad opinion pieces about XB1 are those that haven't touched either system, so it's all speculation...everyone that HAS played on XB1, even if they weren't fans before, say they are impressed...even with kinect, which many are skeptical to embrace. After a huge fallout at E3, it appeared PS4 would crush XB1 hands down...but heading into launch now, it doesn't seem that drastic anymore...with nearly all pre-orders already sold (yes I know XB1 set aside xb1s so they could be bought in store) there is little doubt that PS4 will take the early lead, being as they have promised to ship more consoles at launch....time will even everything out.
SilentGuard  +   225d ago
Point 4 (kinect) in this article is a reason the One may not win.
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ShwankyShpanky  +   225d ago
Ahahaha... adorable.

"The only people nowadays writing bad opinion pieces about XB1 are those that haven't touched either system"

Odd, I don't see the author of this article referencing any of their own experience actually using an Xbone.
iceman06  +   225d ago
Actually, they are valid because they are just opinion. If they were trying to be passed off as fact...well then there would be a problem. I have no doubt that Xbox One will be a competent console. It might actually be great for all we know. The real issue here is perception...the changing perception of MS. I hate to say it, but they lost some fans. Even after the changes, there are people that were die-hard xbox fans that won't touch the thing. Why? TRUST!
We keep harping on things from last gen. You even brought up the "sub-par" network...which is out and out false. Truth is the PSN network was just fine. The real issue was the lack of integration. Without giving thought to the fact that Sony just roughed out a tough battle this gen. Don't think they learned anything? This is MS first rough spot. Now they are learning on the fly. It might be as you predict...it might not. But, Sony has shown that they can get out to a lead and stay and they have shown that they can come from behind. Let's just hope MS put on those PF flyers, because it's gonna be a good race.
wages of sin  +   225d ago
This site is so predictable. The same old tired ass trolls in every article. A bunch of childish,European Sony fanboys run this site. If it was a PS4 article you'd all be circling jerking eachother like you always do.
christocolus  +   225d ago
Dude you are so right...lmao..I actually loved the write up...and I'm so loking forward to the new improved xbox live and kinect, halo5 ,titanfall, gears of war xbox one and rares next big adventure game.....come nov 22 ill be hibernating with my shiny new xbox one..
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ricochetmg  +   225d ago
Win no. But reaming relevant yes we will never have another ps2 again although the wii was almost there. I wish them both success I will end up with them both.
No_Limit  +   225d ago
Flamehawk living up to his name. LOL
quenomamen  +   225d ago
This Article sounds like ol gamergirl was ahem " really stroking MS's ego " damn. She trying to get a job at MS or does her boyfriend / husband work there.
Scatpants  +   225d ago
This "blog" is written by a computer at Microsoft headquarters.
slampunk  +   225d ago
Another flamebait article to fuel the N4G "one console" only gamers...

will get popcorn ready and check comments again in an hour....cant wait!!!
Faztkiller  +   225d ago
They didn't even win this gen with a big head start. I don't think they are gonna stand much of a chance this time with Xbox One after everything thats happened hate seeing the company that really got me into gaming with halo 2 and Live just don't excite me anymore I dont care about kinect or tv since 2010 or 11 they just haven't been the same.
buynit  +   225d ago
They didnt win? God you ppl have tunnel vision..

Did sony dominate like it did with the ps2? Do you even realise how much market share ms took from sony in one generation!
Faztkiller  +   225d ago
Yeah the xbox was great at the beginning of the generation with exclusive 3rd party game and most multiplats were better on 360 with a year head start and a cheaper price. But the last few years have been meh to me seems all MS cares about is COD and Kinect. I think a lot of that market share is gonna go back to sony maybe not as much as PS2 days
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mkis007  +   225d ago
Winning and dominating are two different words. He used winning; Sony has sold more ps3's than Microsoft has sold 360'= Sony #Winning.

I think you will find this trend continues and the ps3 eventually breaking the 100 mill mark before it is pulled. With Microsoft focusing its first party on X1 its 3 years of 360 will not have sucj an effect. ps2 made most of its sales late in life. - This is just me replying to your opinion of people having tunnel vision on what constitutes winning.
ricochetmg  +   225d ago
Xbox One needs the help. If it was 400 in America atleast it would dominate again that 100 will change a lot of peoples mind. The best idea of the future will be e3 next year and what comes in the holiday season. Personlly , Xbox One has a game I want to play . Yet I do see it coming to ps4 later that year and in the mean time Killzone and cod will keep the masses happy.
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XboxFun  +   225d ago
Yes, just yes!

Only 5 reasons, many more reasons why they will win and many, MANY reasons why the competition will not.

Xbox One has gotten rid of every relevant ammo the other fanboys had against it. This is why we get heated debates about hUMA or FCC reports. There really isn't nothing left for them to argue. And with d@*n near every dev saying how close each system is in hardware and power there's no true argument in that either.

MS has already showed off some killer looking games with some absolute stunning graphics. Just like all consoles the graphics will only get better as more and more devs get their final specs dev kits.

Very rocky start, but like most consoles that had a rocky start they get their footing down and start to run off.
LordDhampire  +   225d ago
they havent stopped paying people to talk good about it, we still have that ammo
fsfsxii  +   225d ago
This gen was supposed to be theirs. With a year headstart and look how things turned out.
I really doubt they'll "win" the next gen
PS4isKing_82  +   225d ago
Gotta admit the Xbox one is a huge console. Kinda weird when most electronics makers are going for small and sleek and Microsoft makes something so big and bulky.
SilentGuard  +   225d ago
Kinect shouldn't be touted as reason The One will win. At least as many people hate that want it. Without any compelling reason for it so what if its included. "...developers take more chances with putting special Kinect exclusive content into their games..." is what I'm affraid of. Any game that does risks turning those off that don't like or want to use Kinect.
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wickedthumbz  +   225d ago
Plain and simple the Kinect is for kids, not for Core gamers! And that's who Microsoft said this console is for! Kincet on Splinter Cell BlackList is horrible, and I dang near threw my controller through my TV trying to use it for Mass Effect! The truth behind it all is Money, Microsoft wants to over charge us for the new console and by making the kinect mandatory they can do that and be totally "justified" by some in the industry. True game developers took risks when they left main stream and went to Sony to develop on the PS3 console, and EVERY PS3 exclusive that was made for the PS3 made 10/10. Microsoft has none! I could care less who wins the console war just as long as I can play my next MGS title.

But in all honesty Xbox might win the console war this time again, and if they do it's an eaasy indication that they are the ones beefing up articles like this in the community.
beerzombie  +   225d ago
Wrong Kinect is not just for kids up until this point it has been used mainly for kids but there is a lot of application that can be used in hard core game that would be cool. Not just motion controls.
mkis007  +   225d ago
I think the Kinect for 360 wasted a lot of the "buy me I'm new" aspect for this new Kinect for X1. I believe we will find that people are reluctant to care for it as much as if the first one did not come out.
KYU2130  +   225d ago
I dont care who wins. I currently own both of this current gens consoles, but i will pass on the XB1 for 2 reasons. forced to own Kinect, and every time a hear a statement about the XB1 from MS its always entertainment first games second.
wickedthumbz  +   225d ago
ROTFLMAO!!!!! Good job Microsoft on another personal self indulgence piece. Bravo!!
kaozgamer  +   225d ago
loolol at reason 2
D-riders  +   225d ago
is this real MS couldnt even win with a year head start.
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