"So far, Sony has been making one great move after another. You’ll hardly hear anything truly negative when it comes to the PS4. As of right now the console is the go-to system for most gamers. But one very important problem persists for Sony...."
What is Sony's one-and-only problem/weakness is also their biggest strength. They rely on and own MANY game studios, exclusives, and franchises for their consoles.
That's a great way to look at it. As I mentioned at the end of my article: "And for all we know I can very much be dead-wrong and Sony could easily beat out the competition without at juggernaut like Mario or Halo." The strategy of MANY games over fewer-but-stronger ones could indeed work for them, but we'll just have to wait and see. Thanks for the intelligent, calm response.
I thought Sony's only problem was the fact that they don't support Arabic language, lol. I agree with Relient. Sony has many exclusive IPs who have sold millions of copies. I wouldn't consider not having a "mascot" a problem
I agree, I'd like it if Sony made one massive game, advertised the hell out of it, and made it that one game you NEED to have. In this case, I'd say they need to make a MAG 2.0, rename it, make it innovative and fresh, and just go all out with it. Get guys from Guerilla Games, the Socom guys, ND, SSM, all working on it, along with a dedicated studio. But just for comparisons sake, I'd say Gran Turismo is Sony's big franchise, it rivals Halo in terms of sales.
If your definition of juggernaut includes halo then why no gran turismo or god of war ? Hell even metal gear fits in there ... Dont know what your def is but halo has never broken 8 million and that barely ranks all time
I thought there one and only problem would be not enough stock to keep up with demand at launch.
Stick to Wii u damage controlling shokio Lol
The thing is with Sony, it's a fact that they have created more successful new IP's than both MS and Nintendo combined this gen... For instance, if Sony never funded LittleBigPlanet, Heavy Rain, The Last Of Us, Resistance, Journey, Beyond Two Souls, Infamous and many MANY more, and used the budgets on those games (game development/advertising) to market... say God Of War, save also for only a few of their other past gen games like Killzone, GT, and Rathchet & Clank. Sorta like what MS does with Halo, Forza, Fable, and Gears... (ESPECIALLY Halo http://www.joystiq.com/2012... "Estimates for development costs of Halo 3 average out at $60 million, and that was including a massive marketing budget of about $30 million." Could you imagine how popular GOW/Kratos would be, if he didn't have to share the spotlight with the likes of Nathan Drake, Ellie and Joel, SackBoy, Cole McGrath etc. etc.? On top of having the money for THEIR games, used to market his own? LMFAO, God Of War would be selling tens of millions without a doubt.
* The latest Legend of Zelda game has been outsold by PlayStation exclusives like GOW, Uncharted, Gran Turismo, LBP, etc. * Sony didn't have a problem beating the N64 with the PS1. And they didn't have a problem beating the GameCube and Xbox with the PS2. Sony DOESN'T NEED to turn their consoles into one-trick ponies. They have multiple franchises that sell anywhere from 4 million to over 10 million and they successfully continue to release new and well received IPs. * You're getting confused by the Wii. It was a freak success. It had the right gimmick at the right time and marketed to the right people. Every other Nintendo(and Xbox) home console has been outsold by PlayStation consoles. * So yes, "Sony could easily beat out the competition without juggernauts like Mario or Halo" because they've already done it before. PlayStation has the biggest community of console gamers in the world.
"I thought Sony's only problem was the fact that they don't support Arabic language, lol." LOL! Same here. XD "But just for comparisons sake, I'd say Gran Turismo is Sony's big franchise, it rivals Halo in terms of sales." Pretty much... EDIT: Link for Halo 3's marketing... http://www.joystiq.com/2012... https://www.google.com/sear...
Just to give some perspective here. This gen MS released 4 Halo games: Halo 3, Halo ODST, Halo Reach, Halo 4. 4 Gears of War games: Gears 1,2,3 & judgement. 4 Forza Games: Forza 2,3,4 & Horizon. And yet they still ended up being in 3rd place even with a year headstart on the competition. Meanwhile Sony has yet to make a home console that sells less than 100 milliion units in its lifetime. The idea that Sony needs to put all of their eggs in one basket is silly to me. The best thing that happened to Sony in regards to PlayStation is the fact that Nintendo is seen as kids/family orientated, and MS is seen as Shooter centric, leaving Sony as the best of both worlds with a very varried library of games.
Syphon filter should be rebooted. It would make an awesome flagship game.
Argh whatever. PS4 got the games I want. Granturismo, Killzone, Driveclub and many more exclusive AAA games.
They have many mascots Drake Kratos Sack Boy Ratchet and Clank and many others that are not exclusive anymore but are still associated with the playstation since thats where they started.
I'd like ccp to make mag 2
I have to disagree with this article. I understand what he is saying and with all due respect to Nintendo, I don't care if they ever make another Mario game again. The best game I played this generation was TLOU without a doubt. It was fresh and new. You know that games alike Mario and Halo are always gonna get the polish treatment but they aren't every gonna give you that same wow experience as when you played the first one. For a studio like Naughty Dog, I like that they broke away from uncharted to deliver something new. It means you get the same polish, but on a completely new experience.
@Shok, "And for all we know I can very much be dead-wrong and Sony could easily beat out the competition without at juggernaut like Mario or Halo." You see Sony has juggernaut, it is VARIETY not making same over and over like MS doing withHalo or Nintendo doing with Mario. This is what one of reasons encourages me to buy PS4. @Skips, voted for you extra bubble for well said @xHeavYx, LOL! this is what I thought. Lets consider that Sony will support Arabic language later on which will make it no disadvantege later on.
@CupidViper Agreed. TLOU, a new IP in the twilight of this gen's lifecycle, outsold the latest Gears and Forza combined. Why put all your eggs in one basket when you own the damn farm?
Playstation has a lot of ubiquitous franchises. For me however, the one still running that they are linked to in my mind is Gran Turismo because that particular game defined my Playstation 1 and 2 gaming experiences. It still seems that this is true for many Playstation gamers. GT5 sold over 10 million copies on PS3, more than Halo Reach in the same sort of timespan. GT can always count on the massive sales, same as Halo can.
If Team Soho revive the getaway then they will certainly have a flagship on their hands, especially here Europe.
@joecanada, "halo has never broken 8 million" I dont think you know what you're talking about.
I would agree with the article if Halo was still the insanely hyped game it once was... Back in the day sony had to compete with bigtime hyped games coming out, but now their frachises are gaining popularity. Look how many pre orders killzone already has for instance, and how much hype infamous second son is getting. People outside of the hardcore have big interest, more than they have had in the past. And I feel as far as The Last of Us goes, that game is very popular and still selling extremely well, that is fantastic for a new franchise. It seems to me sony will have mega hits on their hands with new releases of these games and bringing more new ip's to the table.
I don't think it's possible for me to disagree more with this article than what I do. Personally, for the most part, I grow tired of the same damn franchises generation after generation. Every new generation Sony brings us their tried and true franchise like GT and God of War but they also break new ground with amazing new IP's every generation like Little Big Planet, Uncharted, Infamous, Killzone, Heavy Rain and recently my new favorite this generation "The Last of Us" (just to name a few). I can't wait to see all of those titles on the PS4 but more importantly I am looking forward to the new IP's Sony's studios will bring us over the next several years.
Sony has to many quality IPs that gamers love. They don't need a mascot. Mario didn't help Nintendo win last gen, the motion control gimmick did. M$ released 3 halo games, had a year headstart, and a cheaper console last gen. Yet they ended up in last place. Sony strenght is based off the fact that we get new quality IPs along with older ones. When think Nintendo you think of Mario. When you think of Xbox you think halo. When you think of playstation you think of god of war, KZ, uncharted, GT, infamous, MGS. The list goes on and on
Its great to see your bro, Black Buster, is one of the greatest supporters of the PS4. I am subscribed to his Anti-Xbox One News channel. http://www.youtube.com/user...
@wraithspectre - halo has sold at its best 8.1 million .. So what i meant was it never broke through 8 mil to 8.5 or 9... Still doesnt barely rank all time . Check the numbers
SONY has the Nissan GTR as its mascot lol that beats all of the others
Wow, are you seriously trying to claim that Sony exclusives are inferior because there are more of them? Unbelievable.
I really don't see this as a problem. Say MS has one game that sells 10 million units, Sony has 4 games that sell 3 million units a piece. Why does Playstation need a mascot, their games sell, their consoles sell, they get positive word of mouth from the majority of people that have their systems. Why does it have to be a game anyway, why can't its mascot be a feature? I personally think PS+ with its Instant Game Collection is Sonys "mascot". When people consider buying a Sony system that IGC is a major force drawing people in. Gran Turismo is a 10 million game seller anyway, I guess that doesn't count because there's no face on the cars? Even with GT6 coming to PS3 there will obviously be a Gran Turismo game in the PS4s future at some point, it's a given. I like Sony's approach, a variety of games for everyone rather than one or two hit titles as the only reason to pick up and be a fan of the system.
Interesting. Since Sony has so much studios, maybe budget is all over the place and the big wigs are just hoping that one of those studios produces a "Mario/Halo" PS exclusive.
The problem with that statement is that there MANY games also happen to be high quality games that they have been developing for years in preparation for the launch of the PS4. The weakest PS4 game, from appearances anyways, is Knack. Honestly, Knack is a glorified tech demo and we all known it. Still it's a nice looking tech demo. So in reality there is no weakness in Sony's strategy so far. They have clearly been preparing for this move for years and high a lot of high quality games prepare for the PS4. For once a company is combining quality and quantity.
One more thing I'd like to point out. Sony exclusives vary over the generations. One gen's exclusives may never be seen again. Gek, MedEvil. Legend of Dragoon, Noc, Crash etc. Those are PS1 exclusives alone which we've never seen again. (Activision Crash and Squishy-faced Spyro will not be mentioned). Each gen is unique.
@joecanada Not sure where you are getting your numbers from. Check out VG chartz ( easy to find type VG chartz in Google) search for Halo and you should find these figures current as of 24th August 2013. Halo 3 11.79 million copies global sales Halo Reach 9.45 million copies global sales www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name =halo
Nice read :) I totally agree with everything haha, where's Crash, Spyro Sir Daniel, Croc, Syphon filter gone D'x
You don't have to wait and see, just look at how the PS3 fared against the 360 and why it performed like that for a console that arrived 1 year later and without that "Killer Game" and i don't know why ppl forget that what made the PS1/PS2 so unforgettable was the fact that every single publisher was working there and there was no microsoft and deep pockets at that time there was more space to create... Now money talks and bulshit walks... i think we should be happy for Sony being like that cause they are doing the right thing to make the industry and genres grow instead of relying on a single game to make the magic and sell consoles...
I can name 3 more of sony's problems with the PS4: - No backwards compatibility - No free online - No external hard drive support
The Arabic dictionary voted for Obama.
lol Shok's clearly got nothing to write about Nintendo (he's even lost motivation to do damage control for them) so here he is writing about Sony? Don't quit your day job.
The ONLY problem with Sony is that they have a shortage on consoles... I have been trying to pre order but NOTHING!
Afaik they have two juggernauts, Uncharted and God of War, three if The Last of Us becomes a thing. Either way I'd rather have a mix of genres than the same old shooter year after year.
@joecanada Halo has in fact broken 11 Million. http://www.vgchartz.com/gam...
What about that Michael Long Live Play commercial? That was basically all of Playstation mascots. I think thats what people don't think about when playstation advertises they're not advertising one franchise but everything they've done. http://youtu.be/fj96XYhwTFI
Don't they have sackboy?
For those wondering got my numbers from wikipedia top game sales all time says halo 3 is top halo with 8.1 mil ... Dont know how accurate vgchartz or this site are but wiki has multiple sources ... If you think its wrong change it
To sum up the whole writing, they're actually complaining that Sony doesn't want to milk one mascot. That instead, they rely on the many created by their 1st parties. Nathan Drake is a mascot, millions seller Joel/Ellie are mascots, millions sellers Kratos is a mascot, millions seller Helghast is a mascot, millions seller Sackboy is a mascot, millions seller Cole McGrath is a mascot, millions seller Delsin is a mascot, will sell millions Ratchet & Clank are mascots, millions sellers The Last of Us would have never happened if Sony kept Naughty Dog on Uncharted. Look how it turned out. Puppeteer, new IP, already receiving universal praise We know that Naughty Dog are at work with a new IP as well. Same goes for Guerrilla, Santa Monica, Media Molecule, and Quantic Dream. More mascots incoming, and all of them belong to PlayStation. If Sony only relied on one IP to do their work, they'd be no different from Nintendo and Microsoft. Sony's all about variety. That's how they win GOTY. When you have something for everyone, you can't go wrong. When's the last time Halo was even recognized for true GOTY? It's an indication that Microsoft needs MORE fresh IPs, not keep shooting the same weapon. And if you really want to be amazed, there are countless other franchises Sony could bring back at any given moment. Alundra, Arc the Lad, Dark Cloud, Demon's Souls, The Getaway, Ghosthunter, Gravity Rush, Heavenly Sword, Jak & Daxter, Jeanne d'Arc, Jet Moto, Lair, The Legend of Dragoon, The Mark of Kri, MediEvil, Primal, Rogue Galaxy, Siren, Syphon Filter, Warhawk, Tomba!, War of the Monsters Doesn't it feel good to have more than one weapon at your disposal?
Refer to the reply I made to jc48573.
Think its more a concern than a worry. And by "mascot" they mean characters outside of gaming. It was really a disservice to mention Halo besides Mario, who all you need to identify is a red cap with an "M" on it.
I wish there was an option to double bubble lol Also can't wait to get puppeteer, fantastic art direction., a game that changes every ten minutes and you'll never see the same thing twice apparently! But I still have to buy TLOU, urgh.
And don't forget to include Omega Boost, Tourist Trophy, and as much as I know people will hate to hear this, Genji as well. For a console maker that has the most use of original IPs, Sony have more at their disposal anyways, I know there are more IPs than that, that's exactly how I always preferred Sega all the time over Nintendo at the time.
I actually think this is Microsoft and Nintendo's crutch. They rely too much on their stable franchises. So much so, that they fail to take a risk on any new IP year after year. After you've played the new Halo, Mario or Zelda, you're not left with much outside of third party games. Games that Sony has as well.
True Story! im about to go play TLOU's multiplayer right now!
And countless games that were absolute garbage. On vgcharts, for 2012 the xbox 360 had 9 of the top 25 games, sony had 7. So far in 2013, 360 has 8, ps3 has 7. This statistic alone flies in the face to those saying "microsoft relies too much on just a few ip's carrying the platform. Now if you look at TOTAL game sales per platform you get: XBox 360: 801,850,000 PS3: 720,240,000 Interesting how PS3 has only slightly more system sales than Xbox 360 but close to 80,000,000 less games sold, even with all those choices. Looks to me like my assertion that many people bought the PS3 just for the great blu-ray player. Plus... sony lost money on every console till recently while Microsoft didn't. Also, the big money is made on licensing and sales of games, in which Sony got destroyed by Microsoft.
Look at the cast of Sienfield. Each person was fantastic but that character is all they are known for. Fast forward to today and George castanza, Kramer and Elaine will forever be typecast. Variety is where its at. Give me a few uncharted and little big planets then move on to a new ideas. Keep it fresh and moving forward.
Julie louis Dreyfous is winning emmeys for the veep. But of course she will be remembered for Elaine who starred in the number one show for many years. That's true for any actor they are known as their best role such as the terminator or Han Solo/Indiana Jones to Officer Riggs
Look at the cast of Sienfield. Each person was fantastic but that character is all they are know for. Fast forward to today and George castanza, Kramer and Elaine will forever be typecast. Variety is where its at. Give me a few uncharted and little big planets then move on to a new ideas. Keep it fresh and moving forward.
Let's keep one thing clear here! GRAN TURISMO is the PlayStation IP! I can see PlayStation 4,5 and .. without any other IP but GT! Has to be there. Their next IP that fallows is God of War! Kratos is a Icon and very popular. Other IP reaching those epic levels are Killzone, Uncharted and MotorStorm could have take it to the next level if their next games shine on the PS4! KILLZONE will give the big jump with Shadow Fall.. number's will tell if it did (over 4 millions sales)
Forza was better last Gen. GT only sold due to name recognition.
Forsa was better only on reviews... gt has more cars, better graphics, tracks, authentic competition, authentic details, technology and etc. I can't trus a video gamer to review a SIM.. they will review the gameas a game and not as it's a sim. Two huge difference s. Example pes is more authentic Soccer SIM but fifa gets passed as a better game because it has license and more features but in term of pure gameplay PES does it more authentic and is more of a SIM.
I don't see how this is really a bad thing, having as many games as you can, that may not stand the test of time(which I don't think is true but that me)and just stay with only few new ips for years I don't want that I want new games, I don't want to play the same thing over and over again just because it can sell and that why I'm keeping my ps3 for that games that have been and buying a ps4 for games that to come. Well that just me this may not make a lot of sense to everyone but oh well
Yeah, I'm thinking: let me get this straight, the problem with Sony is that they don't keep milking a single franchise over and over and over? Wow, a company that wants to create unique and new experiences, what a terrible idea.
People like Shokio aren't real gamers if all they want is the same damn expired milk franchises like Mario.
Agreed, The sheer amount of unique titles from not only third party but Sony's many first party studios is a strength. after all, just because pizza is great, doesn't mean eating it every day is a great idea.
Weak, to say Sony is missing that "it" game. No console usually launches with that "it" game. That it game normally launches 6 months to a year after console launch.
I think their only problem is. How they have responded to ms' changes, or lack there of. Out the gate, sony was in attack mode, going after ms' controversial plans for next gen. $100 less, items behind gold paywall not behind ps+, indie support, more (reported) powerful, f2p games at launch, the list goes on. Ms has responded by reversing many of their policies and leave the possibility of game sharing coming back, they tout key 3rd party exclusived and partnerships with non gaming resources fir those that want that. Ms has in turn closed the gap (some) and will continue to push for that. Sony seems to be waiting as if they don't want to step on the throat of ms while they were down. Like an nfl coach who lacks that killer mentality. They get a big lead early, then let the other team hang around instead of putting them away.
They don't need a mascot when they put out games like demon souls, infamous, uncharted, the last of us and GT. Advertising the hell out of a single game doesn't make it any better.
indeed and people always overlook stuff don't know if its bias or not but you say halo is a juggernaut then Grand tourismo of to fit on that bill has well over 10 million sold and over 70 million copies in total if that's not a killer app then i don't know what is
Haha this is the top news story? Everyone at n4g are fags. XD
Indeed. I thought they were going to sink more money and ammunition into Killzone shadow fall before its launch, but so far I have little urge to run out and buy it. I am more amped for Uncharted 4 in 2014 alongside some of the new IPs.
Sonys Strength PlayStation 1 - Ape Escape - Crash Bandicoot - MedEvil - GT - Jumping Flash (2nd dev) - and many more.... PlayStation 2 - ICO - Jak and Daxter - Ratchet and Clank - The Getaway - GT3 - The Mark of Kri - KillZone - God Of War - Sly Cooper - and few more... PlayStation 3 - Uncharted - Infamous - The Last of US - Heavy Rain (2nd dev) - GT5 - God of War "polished" - Fat princess (2nd dev) - Motorstorm ... and few more Nintendo N64 - Zelda - Mario - Metriod - Conker Nintendo GameCube - Zelda - Mario - Metriod - Pikmin ? Nintendo Wii/U - Zelda - Mario - Metriod - Pikmin Xbox 2001 Odyssey - Halo (backstabbing PC ppl.) - Fable Xbox 360 - Halo 3 - Fable - Forza - Kameo and so on... nothing will change with the Xbox One. Same regurgitated crap like what Nintendo does... the diffrence is : Nintendo Games don´t suck,... if i´v missed some FP IP from M$ and Nintendo let me/us know.
Having a variety of games is definitely Sony's strength. In my experience with Sony I always felt that Resistance was/is and should have been that killer title. Unfortunately, the game remains with sony but we are not sure if sony will bring it back anytime soon. Note: Another title my friend speaks about is Syphon Filter sony can take that title and bring it into modern day glory with PS4.