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'Metal Gear Solid V' Sexism Controversy: All Smoke And No Fire?

Forbes - There’s something a bit peculiar about criticism leveled at video games over things like sex and violence. For the purposes of this post we’ll set violence—school shootings and the like—aside.

We’ll talk about sex, which is much more fun.

Models in a magazine might be just as scantily clad and sexed-up as a video game character, but we don’t really think twice when we see them. But when we see a similarly-clad video game character, there’s an instant backlash. And the women in video games tend to be way tougher and deadlier than any supermodel.

ABeastNamedTariq3883d ago

"Models in a magazine might be just as scantily clad and sexed-up as a video game character, but we don’t really think twice when we see them. But when we see a similarly-clad video game character, there’s an instant backlash."

Exactly.

Who honestly cares? If you're uncomfortable with it, don't buy it. This isn't some taboo thing.

We just loooove to create controversy, don't we? Are we that boring?

Anon19743883d ago

You're bang on. Sex sells. Yeah, the character design is silly. Yeah, we see it in movies and TV all the time. Why are we suddenly acting like this is something new that we should all be offended by? It's not like she's twerking or anything. :)

cleft53883d ago (Edited 3883d ago )

Great article by Forbes and I definitely agree with what he wrote. Particularly the part about the context of the role that women have in games being much more relevant than their outfits or physical apperance.

Ultimately, these false complaints of sexism only serve to hurt the real complaints. People really need to know context before they start launching claims of sexism. Saying something is sexist is a serious charge and not something to be thrown around lightly.

skwidd3882d ago

So no one had a problem with the violent scenes of torment in the trailer but everyone is up in arms because of a woman wearing a bikini out of context?

Maybe I'm blind but I felt MGS went too far with the realistic depiction of torture and this didn't do much for me. In my opinion, our standards are whack.

The females in MGS games have character, so do the men, its equal. Just because a character is sexualized doesn't mean sexism. There's a tongue in cheek thing going on MGS games and I like it. I don't care for macho men with dark brooding stories taken very seriously. When I play games I want entertainment and EYE CANDY!

gaelic_laoch3883d ago (Edited 3883d ago )

If gaming is going to shake off its image as the sport of adolescents then tasteless semi clad women in games from devs with perverted fetishes needs to go!

You can have half naked women in games but within context, not just thrown in to provoke a reaction or satisfy sexual urges!

Are you not entertained!!!!!

Wenis3883d ago

Since when is seeing a woman with minimal clothing a 'perverted fetish'

gaelic_laoch3883d ago

Kojimas camera work in games with its slowly zooming in on boobs and arses and the context he places half naked women in I view as perverted etc etc.....

Summons753883d ago

Oh you played the game and know Quiet's reason for dressing the way she dresses? Sweet, how was the game?

Kojima already said his tweet was misinterpreted and there is a reason to her character design, that reason is for us to discover when we play the game.

Hope you don't go to pools, beaches, resorts, or look in magazines, movies, comics, or watch TV because it's a lot worse there than it is here.

Money_MGS3882d ago

Liquid goes shirtless in MGS1(in Alaska!). Nothing said. Raiden goes naked in MGS2. Nothing said. BB goes shirtless in MGS3. Nothing said. Old Snake wears a skin tight sneaking suit and Ocelot goes shirtless in MGS4. Nothing said. BB and Kaz can appear in only underwear in MGSPW. But a female wears a bikini top in MGSV and all of a sudden Kojima is sexist....

2pacalypsenow3883d ago (Edited 3883d ago )

So i guess when girls look hot on a game it means its sexist... Sound like a bunch of fat ugly feminist Pms'n .

Did anyone complain when Rayden was naked in MGS2?? or how he was made into a preety boy that was fit and muscular just like Solid snake in MGS 2

KonsoruMasuta3883d ago

I'm outraged because Vulcan and Liquid didn't wear shirts.

They were clearly objectifying men.........

Number-Nine3883d ago

Void.

Video games are mainly designed by men and played by men.

KonsoruMasuta3883d ago

Number-Nine, but there are plenty of women who played a big role in some of the video games you think are mostly aimed at men.

Example: Uncharted.

A woman was the writer and creative director.

Number-Nine3883d ago

Elena was a respectable character because she wasn't dressed like a model on the cover of playboy.

Even Chloe wasn't dressed that way even though she was designed to have more of an edge.

Theo11303883d ago

Actually most of these are models are probably going to be made by guys, so they're basically crafting their dream girls. The problem is context, if MGS is taking place in a battlefield, in what world does it make sense for her to wear that? If it can't be explained by the context of the game and setting, then it's just for objectification, no purpose besides to show some tits.

Number-Nine3883d ago (Edited 3883d ago )

Exactly! Context is key here.

MGS has always given their female characters some sexual traits but it was never over the top, and it was respectable. It has it's pervy moments but none are like Quiet's design.

Theo11303883d ago

@ Number-nine

That's true, MGS 3's Boss was a really awesome character, and just because she was really strong they didn't change to appearance to be less aesthetically pleasant to compensate. That's a weird thing about women in games, either you're not strong and pretty or ugly and strong, there's no middle ground.

Inception3882d ago

That's why before you threw that question, you should wait until MGS V released. Play the damn game first and see why Kojima made that design.

And MGS never target realism like Battlefield, Rainbow Six, or CoD. So if you want 'hey, that's make sense', than don't play MGS.

KonsoruMasuta3883d ago

Oh my god! How many articles are we going to have about this?

Why does this outrage never happen when women wear skimpy outfits in movies or magazines?

XboxFun3883d ago

It's almost as if this is the first time in video game history that a woman has been portrayed half naked.

I really don't see the problem especially when I play other video games like Soul Calibur where a woman's boobs is bigger than her head.

gaelic_laoch3883d ago

MGS always philosophically aspires to provoke thought and inspire greatness YET at the same time........BOOBS!!!!

When you play other low brow games that what you expect and that is what you get!

_QQ_3883d ago

MGS has always been like this. kojima isn't adding it in to sell more copies,the sexual humor is part of the series.

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Number1TailzFan173d ago

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Stanjara173d ago

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Are they counting every game?

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CrimsonWing69189d ago

Yea I don’t get why they’re allowing old reviews to be posted here. Someone did one on Soul Reaver and I got so excited thinking there was some stealth release of an HD Remaster, but no… it’s just someone who had a slow day posted an old review…

Cacabunga189d ago

I liked the game but for me it felt somehow like a military simulator rather than a proper MGS.. i got bored of that

micdagoat19189d ago

I do wish they would remaster all the soul reavers

micdagoat19189d ago

it was done this morning though

goldwyncq189d ago

The author was in a coma for 9 years and didn't get to play the game when it released.

Chocoburger189d ago

This review arrived just in time for launch. Perfect timing!

RupeeHoarder189d ago

Amazing how bad this game looks already. We keep acting like this gen doesn't feel like an update but I think we're starting to see it.

YourMommySpoils189d ago

Looks better than Starfield, Cyberpunk and most recent games out. Still fine.

RupeeHoarder189d ago

It most certainly does not lol.

andy85189d ago

Have you player Cyberpunk since the first day? It's absolutely stunning now

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1nsomniac189d ago

One of the worst games ever made. Absolute overhyped trash!

Snowb420189d ago

The gameplay was great. It was the tacked on open world and repetitive missions that messed the game up.

Shane Kim189d ago

The game started really strong in that hospital, but after a couple of hours I wondered if it was even an mgs game I was playing.

KyRo189d ago

The hospital section was the only bit that felt like a MGS game.

MGS4 was the ending for me. I totally ignore the fact 5 exists. It didn't need to exist tbh

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