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Xbox One: Most innovative console poised to win next gen wars

The Web Graffiti: "Since the reveal of the Xbox One, Microsoft has found itself on the wrong end of the stick where gamers are concerned. Gamers who seem to think a video game machine must solely focus on games and much of nothing else, which is quite an immature thought. However, despite what hardcore gamers and the gaming press think of the Xbox One, the console is still poised to come out on top due to all its innovations."

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xHeavYx1022d ago

How is it innovative? Many things have been done already, just check Comcast X1.
"TV and sports"
You can switch between TV and games with a remote controller, you only need to press it twice, or you can buy an innovative gaming console for $500 and yell at it.
"Kinect"
Nothing has been shown from MS to sell Kinect to the hardcore gamers, just some laggy games like the fighting one. It will end up being like the first Kinect
"Skype"
Behind a paywall, you can use it for free even in your PS VITA.
There is no innovation here, just ideas that have been put together and a lot of PR talking

malokevi1022d ago (Edited 1022d ago )

YEAH!

Wait... I mean... NO!

xHeavYx1022d ago

How is it that the people who support Xbox can't answer unless they bash me or call me names? I guess it's easier to phantom disagree than to have a discussion

Enemy1022d ago (Edited 1022d ago )

Those policies were innovative alright!

Wanna know what else?

$500 = innovative
Kinect spy cam = innovative
Weaker specs = innovative
Power brick = innovative
Mandatory Xbox Live paywall behind everything = innovative
Fake Kinect 2.0/UI demos at E3 = innovative

negative1022d ago

No, it's easier to make fun of and ignore $ony fanboys...

xHeavYx1022d ago

@Negative
Thank you for helping me make my point

NewMonday1022d ago (Edited 1022d ago )

these are the kind that would swallow DRM and forced camera no questioned asked.

facts, commons sense and reasonable judgment are useless in any discussion

numbers prove the XB1 is struggling, it will have a hard time staying relevant.

Tony-A1022d ago

I won't say that the XBO will succeed or fail, but I do know one thing:

You can't be considered innovative if you reverse your "innovative" policies and features to better compare yourself with your competitors.

Innovators think outside the box, which I think MS tried to do, but the ideas are only half the battle. You also need to convince the public that its innovative. They clearly didn't do that.

Bottom line. Microsoft changed their vision to match the competition. That's not innovation. That's adjustment.

malokevi1022d ago (Edited 1022d ago )

@heavy

I didn't bash you? lol. Relax, budday!

I disagree, and I don't feel like discussing it. That would be tres tiring, n'est-ce pas?

TGIF

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P0werVR1022d ago

@xHeavYx

Why call out people for a discussion on a argument that you've already made your intentions clear on?!

Even if proven otherwise, are you going to accept their opinion? I doubt it. So don't play the fool as if you have anything relevant to state.

It's already clear by the first Xbox One/NFL commercial in why it is innovative and how Skype is synced into that.

So your point is useless as usual and shouldn't be wasting your time. It's like a witch hunt with you and your "type" on this website.

Sitdown1022d ago

So ideas put together in a single box that has not been done before is not innovated? What about playing one game while match making is taking place in the background? Just because a bunch of games have not been shown for kinect doesn't mean it's not innovate. Does comcast have an NFL deal allowing you to quickly view how your fantasy player got points...all while playing Madden? You got another console controller with rumble in the triggers? That is just throwing six of the top of my head.

Eonjay1022d ago (Edited 1022d ago )

As cool as a TV extender and integrated Fantasy Football are, they have to be seen as necessities in order for a "casual" gamer. Look at the Wii. It had the least bells and whistles but people liked it and it was relative cheap. The Xbox One isn't a casual device. Its for people who want an integrated all in one media center. It may outsell the Wii U, but it wont come close to touching the PS4.

This Christmas when people are buying gifts for friends and family, the PS4 will be the more affordable choice for gamers and parents alike.

nukeitall1022d ago

@Tony-A:

"Bottom line. Microsoft changed their vision to match the competition. That's not innovation. That's adjustment."

It is calld MS is ahead of the times. It is clear that we are heading into a digital future, and the current path is without sharing, selling, lending, trade-in and gifting. People against this is actually anti-consumer.

Slavery was once accepted, and when the abolishment of slavery occured, people was fighting it. One can argue that abolishing slavery back then, interpreted today is innovative and that slavery was archaic.

Point being, hysteria among the herd (the gamers) forced us back, doesn't make it not innovative. It simply means the herd moves slowly and in 5-years, we will be rejoicing this!

xHeavYx1022d ago

@Nukeitall
Did you just seriously compared MS old policies with slavery? Seriously?

Eonjay1022d ago (Edited 1022d ago )

@nukeitall Your slavery analogy is a bridge to far. Are you trying to assert that abolishing slavery was innovative... like "everyone was doing it until Lincoln decided to innovate"... Um stop please

blackbeld1022d ago

Microsoft is sure innovative.

They invent this ┌П┐(•_•)┌П┐to their fans.

Hope you understand why we switch for PS4.

thrust1022d ago (Edited 1022d ago )

If I wanted an upgrade in hardware only to play games, I would of upgrade my pc.

I want a console/tech to do alot more than just play games, think deep down everyone is the same aswell.

OMG! Slavery really???? You should be banned from the Internet.

JokesOnYou1022d ago (Edited 1022d ago )

@ Heavy because its a waste of time to directly respond to you or most sonyfanboys EVERYTIME when EVERYTHING you say has been discussed to death. I mean you offered nothing new so nobody is obligated to refute what you say.

I can only speak for myself to say Id rather in most cases just give my impression on the topic instead of debating every point with a fanboy, although there are times I agree with certain negatives opinions about micro/360/X1 its always insignificant to my overall opinion of the brand, I think ps fans generally feel the same way.

So for me the 99% factor is where are the games that me, my friends and my family are going to enjoy MOST? All this policy stuff, kinect spying on me, $100 more, behind a paywall, bad PR, DRM, micro is evil literally is of almost NO importance to me. I say that because none of it will affect my ability to enjoy Halo5, in fact I regularly play Halo4 with my 2 nephews on the east coast we all love it and we use it to stay in touch. Our gaming habits and anticipation to play our favorite X1 games together is whats important so until micro does something that is going to fundamentally ruin that experience (too expensive, block online gameplay, or any unforeseen policy to limit that) then I'll continue to see most of the anti micro stuff as petty fanboy wars. I mean seriously literally almost all the hate is centered around things that won't affect me playing Titanfall with my buds on the east coast. Its always petty stuff like well micro has a paywall. Again I think many ps fans feel the same way whatever sonys doing they like it and its not likely anybody here will change their mind about which console they prefer.

I do sort of agree with Tony A micro lost what could have been innovative because they didn't have the balls to stick with it. I believe in the longterm their original approach with a few tweaks would have been very successful.

ShwankyShpanky1022d ago (Edited 1022d ago )

If you're going to try pulling bizarre slavery analogies out of your ass, I guess there's no reason to hold back on this one...

...Some would say Hitler was "innovative." ;-P

tokugawa1022d ago

i have to agree with joy here. heavy you are not worth talking to. but dont feel bad, there are many just like you on here. but that is why you are all here.. birds of a feather.

as well, look at the site. what you dont realise heavy is that this trash is wrote just for you and all the sony fanboys that dwell here. the author dont give a shit, his hit counter will go through the roof. mission accomplished. and these people dont even get bashed in the process anymore.

because the usual suspects are too busy foaming at the mouth and parroting the same stuff to even notice.

anyway, some people will just buy one console, others will get both. no matter how many times people parrot the same shit, it will change nothing

nukeitall1022d ago (Edited 1022d ago )

@xHeavYx:

"Did you just seriously compared MS old policies with slavery? Seriously?"

I knew someone will get their b*ll twisted in a bunch and completely miss the point.

The point was, people get used to thing and will resort to hysteria (and rioting) when the status quo is changed, regardless if it is right (as in the slavery case) or wrong.

That said I don't expect you (and your ilk) to agree considering your bias.

JOLLY11022d ago

xHeavyx I agree with you. I think the Wii U is the "most innovative". I don't get why you brought un the Comcast X1 though, it isn't a console. As for the PS4 and the Xbox One. I would have to give the innocation to the Xbox. The PS4 isn't trying anything new at all. At least from what I have read.

malokevi1022d ago (Edited 1022d ago )

"@ Heavy because its a waste of time to directly respond to you or most sonyfanboys EVERYTIME when EVERYTHING you say has been discussed to death. I mean you offered nothing new so nobody is obligated to refute what you say. "

Eventually you've got to ask yourself, what's the point?

Kryptix1022d ago

@nukeitall
Your view on innovation is very limited.

The definition:
1: the introduction of something new
2: a new idea, method, or device : novelty

By bringing the topic of slavery in, you are trying to say that innovation is always a good thing but failed to see that slavery did start somewhere and is considered an action of taking people's rights and equality away.

I presented the definition because innovation can also be a bad thing since it doesn't specifically carry the word "good" or "positive" in it.

Don't you think adding DRM to everything we buy is also taking away our rights to lend and sell what we should own because of the purchase? It is innovation but not the best kind because we currently have the freedom to give away what we own freely and the option to do so is there.

I understand adding account locked DRM with digital copies for the reason that those files could be copied and multiplied to give to everyone but adding a lock into a disc shouldn't be necessary because it's one copy to one disc. If they hadn't made the Xbox One have mandatory installs then they wouldn't have a problem with that. They should know that the used game market is necessary because of the bad economy and people can't afford to cough up $60 every time to play new games.

Now...knowing that, if Microsoft wanted to implement DRM with the promise of selling all the games cheap, then that innovation would of gathered positive comments. I would definitely give up on the used games market if I could buy new games for 30 or 40 dollars. It would be similar to Steam with digital sales.

I call ignorance to say that Microsoft was just thinking ahead moving towards a digital future. Fact is, society hasn't gotten there yet so why skip a step and get there as quick as possible? Even if Microsoft did add DRM for cheap prices, it would still be a problem towards everyone with no internet. Unless every console had some sort of tech that lets you play the game for the first 30 days then they have to check in to keep playing but maintain those cheap prices on the market.

I don't know, but what I was trying to say, innovation is only a good thing if done right and isn't just forced into the community till they learn to accept it. If the community rejects it, it shouldn't have been brought up with no explanation. But Microsoft failed to give it a real reason for it and the whole structure of it was very flawed for our present and current living. The way Microsoft presented DRM made no sense because everything they said could be possible on the PS4. If they would lower prices, that could of been a good reason but still a no go for the masses with no internet access.

rainslacker1022d ago (Edited 1022d ago )

I love how everyone says it's not worth responding to Heavy because it's a waste of time, then go on to write a long post on why it's a waste of time, instead of just addressing what he says. Regardless of if it will change his mind, it doesn't mean that others may not join in and provide more interesting discourse than over-extended fan-boy-pointing-outing.

Seriously, to all the people on all sides that do the same thing, if you want better discussions and less trolling, at least try to provide a decent argument instead of minimizing or dismissing the arguments made.

Definition of innovate
1. to introduce something new, make changes in anything established.
2. to introduce(something new) for or as if for the first time.

Nothing MS has announced is new. However some of it is new to consoles in it's current form. In some ways they are innovative, in others they aren't. This is pretty true of all 3 console makers to varying degrees.

Doesn't mean that innovation is meaningful in any way. That'd be a more interesting discussion...the actual meaningfulness of their innovations.

GT671021d ago

"where do PR people get these WILD unproven info from???" how on God green earth they know x1 will win next generation.like to get few lottery # from them.

P0werVR1021d ago (Edited 1021d ago )

@rainslacker

So wait a minute...

You pretty much proved your own argument?!

My gosh your comment is a testament to how superficial some of you are on this site. I could've just stated "Need I say more..." and bow out, but I just had to prove that you proved yourself.

Riddle me this, is there any TV featurer or cable box feature that has hyper v in it for seamless snap transitions?!

If you can prove to me that Hyper V isn't innovative than I'll bow out. Other than that, there is a reason why they brought the legend Dave Cutler to the Xbox Divion to create Hyper V.

nukeitall1021d ago

@Kryptix:

Despite our different views, I appreciate you giving me a proper and well thought out response (albeit in fewer words would be better next time, but I'm wordy to).

"By bringing the topic of slavery in, you are trying to say that innovation is always a good thing..."

What I was trying to say is, change even for the better is often time resisted. People don't like (good) change and you see this resurface in almost everything you do in life.

"Don't you think adding DRM to everything we buy is also taking away our rights to lend and sell what we should own because of the purchase?"

Technically, MS gave you more options on your digital purchases than is currently. You can't really share, sell, gift or trade-in your digital purchases right now.

You could with MS DRM, and as we move forward people will start to automatically shift to digital media and nobody has spearheaded the change of DRm to consumer benefit.

This means, if you were against MS DRM, you are actually anti-consumer. From a digital perspective, everything MS has done is in consumers best interrest, except for the 24-hour check-in, that is required for all these benefits to work.

"...we currently have the freedom to give away what we own freely..."

So was MS DRM. You could gift your game away digitally as well.

"adding a lock into a disc shouldn't be necessary because it's one copy to one disc."

The instant switching and instant access nature with high performance dictated that digital copies was necessary.

There are pro's and con's to this, but the used game market still would have existed. Because of the daily check-in, allowed MS to enable resell, gifting and trade-in of digital games.

You could do essentially whatever the physical copy did, in the digital world.

"I would definitely give up on the used games market if I could buy new games for 30 or 40 dollars."

So you are saying, you would give up your rights if it was cheap enough?

You no longer care if it is DRM.

"...society hasn't gotten there yet so why skip a step..."

That is the definition of change. Ready or not, but I really think MS botched the messaging. I'm sure their statistics shows the vast majority connect the Xbox to the internet. Without the internet, that box is pretty limited (i.e. pretty dumb).

"... Microsoft failed to give it a real reason for it and the whole structure of it was very flawed..."

I do agree that MS botched the messaging with plenty of confusion, and that a very small group of people ruined it for the many. Fact of the matter is, the ability to trade-in, gift, and sell your digital purchases hasn't been done by anyone, let alone in the console space.

It isn't as bad as everyone think it is, and has myriad of benefits.

"...everything they said could be possible on the PS4."

That is completely irrelevant what is possible or not possible on PS4. However, my take on it was if you wanted a disc based solution, you could buy a PS4 and if you wanted the digital future, buy an Xbox One.

There was two consoles to suite both parts of the market. Now, we only have one were we stick with the status quo of age old physical discs.

Essentially we removed an option. Worse, we patt each other on the back and saying we fought for gamers.

However, all we did was reduce options in the market, and went backwards on digital freedom. That is completely anti-consumer!

rainslacker1021d ago

@power

Maybe I missed how I'm being superficial. I'm merely pointing out that many people say that it's not worth responding to Heavy in a rather long winded post. I then make a suggestion that maybe they actually address his points instead of just calling him a fan boy without actually trying to counter argue what he says in order to disprove him intelligently without the use of misdirection or trivialization. You know, discuss things in a discussion forum...crazy I know. It may not have an effect on Heavy, but it could lead to better discourse overall.

I then proceeded to add something to the actual thread at hand, which was, "Microsoft is/isn't innovative", just to try and nurture my prior suggestion of providing reasoned discourse. I didn't get all technical with it, and stayed rather moderate, but yeah, at least I did more than call out fan boys, which I also did.

As far as Hyper V. To my knowledge it hasn't been used for any kind of "snap" feature in consoles...although the Vita does use a HV to operate it's multi-tasking, and the PS3 uses it when you press the PS button in game. I can't speak to the 360 because I"m not familiar enough with it's OS, however the 360 does have one.

The real innovation here isn't the fact that they are using hypervisor, but the fact they are bringing this level of multi-tasking to consoles in what they say, and which is apparently pretty seamless. The fact that they are using hypervisor for it isn't really innovative as the HV is just a means to an end. The inclusion of a HV in the console isn't terribly innovative, as it's been done with the PS3, 360, Wii, Wii U, Vita, and if I'm not mistaken, the Dreamcast. MS also didn't create Hypervisor, it was created by IBM back in the late 60's.

The fact that you call it Hyper-V(the MS marketing buzzword) only shows that you buy into PR machine. There is so much more to what they're doing than that. As I said in my original post, some of the stuff they're doing is innovative, some of it isn't. In this case, you, and MS, are focusing on the wrong thing that is innovative in favor of having a fancy marketing term, although MS is at least prudent enough to just show off the feature instead of trying to make it sound fancy by overusing this term.

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SegaSaturn6691022d ago

It's innovative. Never before has a such an expensive cable box accessory been widely flaunted. Microsoft knows how to make quality electronics *buys 3 zunes*

PunisherRevenge1022d ago

@SegaSaturn669.....Yep Sony is also known for great quality electronics *buys 5 Walk mans*....lol

meganick1022d ago

@marcelliuss1

Sony does make quality electronic devices. Are you implying they don't?

SegaSaturn6691022d ago

Do you not like walkmans? I really enjoyed mine. Betamax is another story, but for the most part, I've been quite happy with my Sony purchases.

PunisherRevenge1022d ago

@meganick....well actually I am. If you go back and look at the last ten years of thier products and thier current financial situation that says a lot by itself.

@SegaSaturn669....I use to enjoy the walk man also until the ipod happened and ever since then I haven't seen one.

ShwankyShpanky1022d ago

Are you really trying to crap on the Walkman, one of those iconic and successful products whose trade name, like Rollerblade or Xerox, became synonymous with an entire class of devices?

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kenmid1022d ago

A camera that can detect your heart rate is pretty innovation to me.

WeAreLegion1022d ago

Download the app for your phone. It's available on Google Play Store and App Store.

Campy da Camper1022d ago

And then when it reads 3 more your 5.99 movie purchase just went up to 24.00

ShwankyShpanky1022d ago

A toothbrush that can read your heartrate is pretty innovative too... doesn't mean there's a whole lot of point to it.

JokesOnYou1022d ago (Edited 1022d ago )

WeAreLegion by that logic nothing in the last half century is innovative. Seriously someone could invent a car tomorrow that drives itself once you engage autopilot on the highway and the naysayers could scream "who gives a damm airplanes have been doing that for a long time". Literally 99% of the "innovations" today are based off previous tech, or bringing similar tech into a new space. Smartphones are a very good example of this, cameras and cell phones existed sperately for along time but I definitely consider the idea to bring them together innovative. Fortunately the worlds "innovators" think nothing like you and folks who share your closed minded thought process.

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aceitman1022d ago

the thing I wonder and I guess we will find out, is how parents will feel to justify buying x1 with Kinect 2.0 when they will feel like its something they have already with the 360 with kinect . it could be a downfall for ms trying to justify parents spending 500$ to upgrade.

Wikkid6661022d ago

Not any different than trying to justify any console to parents.

It's the extra features that make the justification easier. Dad watch football with it. Mom can Skype the family... so on and so on.

aceitman1022d ago

@wikkid666- as a parent that is not telling me to shell out 500$ for x1 , I can watch football on anything my ipad my 360 ,ps3 , pc , and I can do it with my fantasy football on my ipad and get fullscreen on my tv. and Skype, me my wife and kids do it already on our devices .so I don't need to put out 500$ for that. all the features that Kinect has for the fantasy football is done with apps already sent to my iphone and ipad.

rainslacker1022d ago

Why any parent would let their kid have any kind of camera that connects to the internet is beyond me. There are some things kids just shouldn't be exposed to, and the internet is chocked full of scum that prey on children.

Benchm4rk1021d ago

@rainslacker

Agreed. My oldest son has a 360 in his room with kinect but I've got the parental lock on so he can't go online. He keeps asking to play halo and other games online but I won't let him. I don't want him exposed to some of the nonsense you hear and the abuse people spout in games.

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GiantEnemyCrab1022d ago

Probably because it's just not that important to convince you? Do your own research.

The Fantasy Football integrated into the console is innovative. I am not going to sit here and list everything out for you but it's obvious you know very little about the feature set but feel informed enough to bash it and whine about it.

HiddenMission1022d ago

Actually Fantasy Football integration is not that innovative. I talked to my boss who is master of all types of fantasy sports stuff and told him about the XB1 features and said he had been doing that stuff for years with his phones, tablets, TV, computer and other electronics for years.

Looks like you have been living under a rock because my boss is 57 and if he doesn't think it's innovative then you must not be up with the times.

Sitdown1022d ago

As you said, he has been doing those things on phones, tablets, TV, computer and other electronics for years.........but what's missing? he has not been doing those things on a video console...innovation

BlackTar1871022d ago

Giant,

I think ESPn or NFL had a Fantasy football app on ps3 that as long as you picked your team online you could manage and track via ps3/xbox.

It's really not that innovative. Also is this the best app innovation you can bring. Bring the big guns please. I would like to see what other areas you call innovation.

Xbox beat ps3 with Online last year but only die hard fanboys think xbox live by end of gen was so magnificent and better. Xbox had a better controller i agree. xbox did still have a better online service but by end of gen it was minimal. Cross chat check.

I can admit where one company wins and innovate etc. but it seems like Americans and American media love to play the family business card all the time. Just like i have no doubt if Destiny was exclusive the hype for it would be huge and if titanfall was a multiplat it wouldn't be nearly as huge. This is all opinion of course but history will tell you at least partially what im saying is a consistent in American product and media.

By the way im born and raised in America Northern Cali

BlackTar1871022d ago

Sitdown doing it on a console is not innovation its progress. Not all progress is innovation sometimes its just natural order.

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XboxFun1022d ago

"How is it innovative? Many things have been done already, just check Comcast X1."

But has it been done on any past consoles? No.

"Nothing has been shown from MS to sell Kinect to the hardcore gamers, just some laggy games like the fighting one. It will end up being like the first Kinect"

The possibilities are there. And besides that the console isn't even out and you want MS to show everything now? Sony hasn't even shown everything that they said would come with the PS4 (Gaikai). Ms has already shown Kinect integrated with it's launch games. Wait, didn't you already say this in another article?

"Behind a paywall, you can use it for free even in your PS VITA."

It's too bad the Vita isn't really selling and appealing to gamers so why bring the Vita into this conversation about the Xbox One? Oh right...troll bait.
Use Skype to party chat with friends while playing a game. Maybe coordinate attacks while playing Titanfall, Cod, or BF4. You know fun stuff like that while gaming.

"How is it that the people who support Xbox can't answer unless they bash me or call me names?"

How strange right...

http://n4g.com/news/1348269...

Maybe because you're an admitted Sony fanboy that does nothing but troll Xbox articles and then gets all butt hurt when someone does the exact same thing in your precious Sony articles. Then it's nothing but "Don't feed the troll" out your mouth.

How can anyone try to prove you wrong when you won't even listen because of your bias earmuffs.

xHeavYx1022d ago

The thing is, MS said that the One is built around Kinect, Gaikai is nothing like that, and the usage of both services are not even comparable.
Yes, the VITA isn't selling good, so what? You can still use Skype for free on laptops, those sell pretty good right?
No one is going to use Skype to party chat while playing a game, you can already do the party chat with the console.

There is a difference between you and me as well, I talk facts, all you say is "Xbox is better, so Xbox wins" but without any facts

ABeastNamedTariq1022d ago

"It's too bad the Vita isn't really selling and appealing to gamers so why bring the Vita into this conversation about the Xbox One?"

That's kinda irrelevant, I'm just saying. It apparently appeals to a lot (I'm generalizing), but it's the memory card prices that were too high.

Also, doesn't the Wii U have TV integration? Something like that? TVii? I don't know if it works like XB1's, but it's still TV integration, right?

XboxFun1022d ago

@Heavyx

No heavy, the difference between you and me is I talk excitement for games and my gaming console of choice. All you do is troll and talk negative about MS/Xbox.

You don't state any facts, you state your opinions. Huge difference by the way. This is why no one answers you because it's pointless. You will always feel that way no matter what.

Example:

"No one is going to use Skype to party chat while playing a game, you can already do the party chat with the console."

See, right here you have already convinced yourself that NO ONE is going to use Skype. How can anyone debate or tell you something when you have your fingers in your ears.

"MS said that the One is built around Kinect, Gaikai is nothing like that, and the usage of both services are not even comparable."

And you fail to acknowledge my earlier statement which again tells me no matter what someone tells you, you have already convinced yourself that Kinect is bad.

So WHY keep asking these stupid questions that you don't want to hear the answers too? This is what we call TROLLING.

There's the difference xHeavyx, plain and simple.

xHeavYx1022d ago

@Xbox fun
You seriously think that someone is going to open a second program (which would make the gaming screen smaller BTW) to use a feature that is already available?
The second point, you really expect me not to say anything when you compare Kinect to Gaikai?
And please, don't act like you don't go into Sony articles to troll

ShwankyShpanky1022d ago (Edited 1022d ago )

You could hook two PS4s together via USB and get a supercharged PS8.

No, it hasn't been announced or demonstrated, but the *possibilities* are there.

BTW... can you identify any of these Kinnect "possibilities" that could not be accomplished with the PS4 cam? About the only thing I can think of is maybe some low-light capabilities. Even the heart rate thing is just done by color analysis of the image.

I'll start one from the PS4 side: The stereoscopic PS4 camera can take 3d photographs and video. Can the monoscopic Kinnect do that?

"Use Skype to party chat with friends while playing a game."

You want all your friends to see you sitting around in your underwear? (or you think they want to see that?) According to a number of Xbone fanboys in various Kinnect/spying threads, that seems to be the way they all play.

(BTW, expect a fair uptick in Vita sales with the release of the PS4. I know I'll be getting one in the future. Remote Play FTW)

"Maybe coordinate attacks while playing Titanfall, Cod, or BF4. You know fun stuff like that while gaming."

I know, right? That goodness for Kinnect, otherwise we'd have no way to communicate in-game. Hm, would I rather just have a voice in my ear, or a half-dozen distracting faces taking up valuable real estate on screen?

rainslacker1022d ago

They don't need to show everything, but they should show something to make it worth the extra $100 for a peripheral that apparently a majority of people don't care about or simply don't want.

Investing in a game machine is buying half promise and half what's there now. Right now it seems outside of some appealing games, there are just too many promises with nothing substantial shown.

At least with Sony, they do have a reliable track record in the games department, so we can go with that promise. Quite honestly, the other stuff they offer I don't mind having, use it from time to time, but couldn't care less if it's there or not. I buy consoles to play games, and I'd imagine many others are the same way.

Now, I'm an admitted Sony fan. I will never deny it. But I want MS to show me something that's worth buying the console for. I want MS to prove to me that they can live up to the promises. I want MS to sell me on their system, I'm a hard sell because I'm a cynical a**hole. But my money is just as good as everyone else's. I also buy a crap ton of games, so you know...I'd make a good customer.

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AwesomeMan1022d ago SpamShow
SliceOfTruth8881022d ago

I have the X1 by comcast and its garbage. First the remote they give you doesnt even have a tv input button to change over to a console. Second all of the voice commands are available only for IOS no droid or windows as of now and the way it works for IOS now is nothing special at all.

With the XBOX one i will never have to touch anything with the tv again. Just one single hdmi cord will go to the tv and i will be able to control everything. I will now be able to watch MNF while playing Madden and keeping up with my fantasy scores without EVER having to turn away from the tv. No Pause, No nothing. The only people not impressed with these features cant afford 2 consoles so they have to complain about the other to justify their choice.

With Kinect obviously you did no research because they fixed the lag and the Kinect is an amazing piece of technology. Now when iam playing battlefield and i want to start a party chat instead of hitting the xbox button, scroll to party chat and then invite everyone. I can just say xbox start party chat and everyone can just say xbox join party chat. You never have to stop playing.

Then we have the dynamic matchmaking and i mean this one takes the cake. You mean to tell me i can play Killer Instinct with a friend while we wait for our Forza and Battlefield matchmaking to find us a game? You technically never have to wait in a lobby ever again which will keep franchises online communities alive much longer than ever before.

HiddenMission1022d ago

really can't afford I already have multiple PS3's, Wii U, Vita, 3D, Galaxy Note, Galaxy Note 10.0 and several S3's in my house not including the monster sized $4000 TV's I have in each room.

Everything is connected in my house for the most part and guess what I'm not impressed. So yeah people who can afford multiple console don't care...my 2 PS4's are already paid off.

Don't assume like you know what every consumer's tastes are and budgets are.

Also you do know most of what you talked about has not actually been shown off in a real life...aka not scripted pre-recorded situations.

aceitman1022d ago

@slice just 2 things u say are wrong I wont go into the rest u have x1 , not sure u do cause u need 2 hdmi cables to connect one from x1 to tyv and the other for tv to x1 , it has to go that way so they can talk to each other. 2 there is some lag on Kinect 2.0 not as bad as the 1st but not that much of a difference.
http://www.ign.com/wikis/xb...

buynit1022d ago (Edited 1022d ago )

What question you want answered heavy..

All youre going to say is you dont like it, its behind a pay wall and its been done before..

The "its been done before" kills me lol.. no one not even sony has taken a camera as far as ms has taken it and made it main stream.. so now we are supposed to dissmis what kinect can do because sony has done a camera for like 2 decades but never gave it real support Or moved it forward.. and im not spending 500 just for that incase you been under a rock xb1 has a few great launch games..

I dont want kinect to take over my hardcore games I just want simple voice comands hand gestures and head tracking, I want kinect to add to the ec perience not take it completely over..

Just stfu about skyp you clearly dont know how its going to be used in xb1 go educate your self before comparing to to vitas skyp..
No one has done what xb1 is doing on video game consoles plain and simple thats why its innovative. A lot more ppl are going to get that experience that not many had the pleasure to experience..

Stop acting stupid im not buying an xb1 to yell at it and I love the fact that I dont have to manualy switch inputs. I mean how the hell can you even hate on how easy it will be going from game to tv to internet?

My paragraphs are all over the place my stupid phone is acting up..

Philaroni1022d ago

For me the main issue I am having with the XB1 is that the two major features on it I won't use. I don't have cable TV and more and more every year ditch cable for Netflix and other content. So the extra HDMI in port is kind of useless for many of us. Kinect is something I'll never really be on board with. Its cool but in my small space I live in I can't use it, the media features are over rated for both XB1 and PS4 my free time is spent playing games. I don't at all mind the extra media content just I don't like how MS seems to have this massive focus on it.

The NFL deal really means little to me since Monday ESPN games I just go to a local bar to watch and all other games are on just the free cable TV and its in HD. Also with a lot of the networks broadcasting online for free now it just makes any kind of arrangement irrelevant.

Part of me really things MS thought Sony would only have 4G of GDDR5. If that was the case then the $500 price tag would be much more attractive. I think MS will still do fine, they have a little stronger line up for the hardcore gamer atm and Titanfall looks amazing. The real Xfactor for both is how all there cloud bases services are going to work.

SliceOfTruth8881022d ago

Just so you know the Kinect 2 was designed for very small apartments with very little space you can play pretty much right in front of the thing now. I have both consoles on pre order so trying to convince anyone of either side is never my goal, but i will say when PS4 fanboys notice how much faster the X1 performs over the PS4 and they go "I dont understand its GDDR5" its going to be the funniest day ever.

cell9891022d ago

ze powa of da cloud tho

stage881022d ago

So they're saying PS4 will win?
That's strange of them.

nosferatuzodd1022d ago

shh let them live in their illusions

BlackTar1871022d ago

Why hasn't anyone given a counter point to him though?

It is kinda funny that you say i don't want to discuss it. Why are you here then? Its rather shallow and pathetic to be honest to spend your time responding a second time with such a feeble response.

Discuss it with me then. I am much more even and i prefer the PS family and brand and games over all others but that doesn't make me stupid, blind or ignorant. So go ahead and throw your pitch at me and if i can rebuttal i will if i can't then you win.