Submitted by mrbojingles 729d ago | opinion piece

PS4's Nov. 15th launch vs Xbox One's Nov. 22nd launch: Who has the advantage?

Gimme Gimme Games debates whether the Xbox One releasing one week earlier than the PS4 in Europe will give it any advantages or whether the PS4 will benefit from releasing a week earlier than Xbox One in America. (PS4, Xbox One)

Update Sorry, meant to say that the Xbox One is releasing a week earlier than PS4 in the UK.

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xHeavYx  +   729d ago | Funny
The one (no, not that One) launching in 32 countries
us_army  +   729d ago | Well said
The fact is not that the extra week will change day 1 sales, as all launch consoles are locked up by filling pre-orders.

Sony is clearly allocated more consoles for launch, so even if they were a week back, they would be leading.

Where Sony having a week advantage plays key is the fact that they have 2 weeks to restock stores for black friday, not to mention having that cheaper price tag. Microsoft only has 5 days to get stores stocked for black friday shoppers, which is near to impossible to fill. (5 days because Thursday is Thanksgiving, therefore stores would need to receive shipment on Wednesday to have it stocked for BF).

Sony has the advantage in the initial sales outlook for sure.
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FATAL1TY  +   729d ago | Well said
PS4 wins, fatality

Pre orders (EU) + November 15 (US)
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Godoftheweek  +   729d ago
Not all of the launch sales will be pre-orders for Sony. I cannot speak for MS because I do not have the information but IMO they will have some "shelf" systems available as well. Sony has specifically stated that they will have systems available to those that do not pre-order. This is where the chaos will most likely originate from in the form of long lines and some altercations.

I agree with you on the advantage Sony will have as far as the restock of systems before Black Friday. It will be more difficult for MS to do the same unless they purposely hold back systems for BF. I will assume that Sony will hold back some systems as well, and it is possible that they will have more to sell aside from those that are going to be most likely held back.

IMO, the worst case scenario for MS would be for Sony to sell 1-2 million systems in that 1st week. Though even that will not be that big of a deal.
Death  +   729d ago
Game consoles release in 3 week intervals. Neither will have restock available before Black Friday. The only units that will be available are launch units. Most retailers will allocate some for Black Friday, but the goal is to sell through, not store systems. With less pre-orders, Microsoft should have more units available throughout the first 3 weeks.

The only way Sony could have more available is if they were storing them now. That would be extremely unconventional though since warehousing units cuts into the already slim profit margin.
Sarick  +   729d ago


In Mortal Kombat isn't a flawless victory when one player beats another player or CPU to a pulp without taking a single hit of damage?

If I'm not mistaken a flawless victory would meant Xbox One has no pre-orders or sells at all.

For the record I did get your pun the person you was commenting on was named Fatality. LOL good one.

Anyway, I strongly agree with this:
"Launching in 32 countries" << EXTREME market advantage if the supply and demand is there.
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mewhy32  +   729d ago
I think that it's a good idea to go first. The reason that Nintendo didn't do better when going first was because they didn't, and still don't, have a very good library of games for the Wii-U. Hopefully that'll change this holiday. But back to Sony and micro$oft, I think they're both going hard after the other guy's turf. I mean Sony is releasing first in the US and micro$oft is releasing first in Europe. It's comical really. I still see Sony winning this battle.
mcstorm  +   729d ago
You know its not The PS4 wins or the Xbox one wins or even the WiiU wins. Its us gamers win as we will be able to get our hands on the console and games we want as we will have the choice of buying a 360, PS3, PSP, PSV, 3DS, 2DS, Xbox One and PS4 as well as the 1000s of games at are out for all the consoles.

Great time to be a gamer cant wait to get my next gen console and games.
Shang-Long  +   729d ago
I dunno, who has the advantage but I tell you one thing, if there are Black Friday deals on ps4 that I can do. I'm getting one that's for sure!
Anarki  +   729d ago
The US is Microsofts biggest market, so Sony winning them over with an earlier launch will put them in a definite lead.
Mario18  +   729d ago | Funny
The one

for 399
Boody-Bandit  +   729d ago
Good one

negative  +   729d ago
bubble down for being cheap
Mario18  +   728d ago
Mr. Negative U Mad?
dark-hollow  +   729d ago
People who are willing to buy on day one already made their minds, a week difference won't affect both consoles that much.
B1663r  +   729d ago
Sony's business model requires that they dominate to make money. The X1 is good enough that they won't dominate... At best they will do slightly better.

Thus, even with a slight victory, Sony faces bankruptcy.

Winner: X1 and Microsoft.
Harmonizer  +   729d ago
The Playstation division has and continues to make shitloads of money. It's the electronics division that isn't doing well, which is why some investors seek a split of the two divisions.
MysticStrummer  +   729d ago
You make Pachter look like a genius.
Magicite  +   729d ago
explain yourself
Cuders  +   729d ago
You must be under the age of 15, because its hard to believe someone could be this foolish as an adult.
hardcorehippiez  +   729d ago
assdan  +   729d ago
Based on the release dates, I really hope no one. If anyone was like, "I don't know the PS4 DOES launch a whole week earlier!" Then this world is doomed.
But yes, I'd say the one launching in 32 markets probably has the advantage lol.
Mounce  +   729d ago
That and, even if X1 is releasing 1 week earlier in EU...

EU is loyal mostly to Sony, I'm sure they'll easily be able to wait a week longer for PS4, if they don't already have a Pre-order done that is. I'm glad I set my pre-order in June still. JUST incase, so I know I can grab it Day One.
Regis  +   729d ago
I believe the gamers will win I see no downfall of both consoles they will all be great.
Xsilver  +   729d ago
PS4 will win.
Because day one are all of the hardcore gamers the ones that buy a new console day one the ones that also own PS+/Xbla, and with the PS4 releasing first in the US then later in all the 32 country's. now not only will the PS4 have a bigger user base because of that but then the casual gamer who likes to wait will pick the cheaper console and the one that allot of people will have mainly their friends.
Now that's how it works now, and who ever can support their console the best will keep people buying it.
H0RSE  +   729d ago
"PS4 will win.
Because day one are all of the hardcore gamers the ones that buy a new console day one the ones that also own PS+/Xbla, and with the PS4 releasing first in the US then later in all the 32 country's."

- It won't matter for the "hardcore" gamers, because these are the ones whose minds were already made up. PS4 could release a month later, and the "hardcores" would still wait for it.

"now not only will the PS4 have a bigger user base because of that but then the casual gamer who likes to wait will pick the cheaper console and the one that allot of people will have mainly their friends."

- Many "casuals" are likely not going to spend $400 - $500 on a console. Many of them are perfectly fine playing games on their phones and tablets. It's the undecided yet dedicated gamers that are the ones tat will essentially "fill in the gaps" for each consoles playerbase.
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TAURUS-555  +   729d ago
PS4 will win hands down
Tru_Ray  +   729d ago
No question about it. The $100.00 price difference is going to have a significant impact on sales. I see the PS4 leading in all major territories at launch and sustaining this lead throughout the console cycle.

avengers1978  +   729d ago
No 12-18 month head start this time, and price advantage goes to Sony. It's as head to head a console launch as can be and I believe PS4 will out do XB1 in sales by about 3:1
black0o  +   729d ago
it's week for God sake
finbars75  +   729d ago
Its not that its just a week it really comes down to where its being launched which Sony has alot more of the advantage in that department.I mean MS announces fifa14 for the xboxone in europe but its only in parts of europe which is a big deal and will still affect the outcome.PS4 has alot going for it and doesnt talk out of its ass unlike MS who constantly has no PR experience at all from everything I have read or watched.Its killing them.
black0o  +   729d ago
ps3 was a lagging by a year .. and look how things turned out, right now all we need to do is set back and wait for DEC charts
Majin-vegeta  +   729d ago
PS4 cuz then word will get around and friends will be able to see it.

It's Like when the GBC was coming out no one had one and then someone would get it and everyone would be amazed by it and run out to get one.
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iamnsuperman  +   729d ago
In the battling regions (the ones Microsoft and Sony are both releasing) Neither. A week either way is nothing (pre-irders selling out and limited stock in stores anyway. Most consoles sell out at launch because there is enough die hard fans). The regions where one console is releasing way before the other, yes the PS4 does have the advantage there (i.e just those regions).
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Godmars290  +   729d ago
Sony gets a week head start in the US, MS gets one in the UK and other parts of Europe.

One week...
sashimi  +   729d ago
except that One week in barely any EU countries lol...compared to Sony
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dale_denton  +   729d ago
europe is loyal to sony, they'll wait and wont fall into the BS with that free fifa game.. still cheaper on ps4.
Mr1Y  +   729d ago
What are you taking about the bundle is already sold out xD
mxrider2199  +   729d ago
at Mr1Y ya but how many did they give out for free i mean its a DD should be unlimited amount...
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Bigpappy  +   729d ago
There is no real advantage to either. It comes down to who can excite buyers the most. There are many ways to accomplish that.

If M$ has one last big unannounced feature left in them, they could hold it for that last week advertising and deny Sony a chance to have it at their launch. But that would have to be a really huge feature to have an effect.
hellzsupernova  +   729d ago
This is what I fear Sony will get out advertised by Microsoft and their money
a_squirrel  +   729d ago
Microsoft is bleeding money all over, slashing prices on their surface tablets and backtracking on all of their previous policies.

Sony has undergone a restructuring after getting too cocky with the PS2's success.

So, Sony is on the rise, and Microsoft has been stalling. (losing altitude)
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hellzsupernova  +   729d ago
I know what you are saying but Microsoft is far from bankrupt. And has way more cash on hand for advertising than Sony.
CGI-Quality  +   729d ago
How did that advertising go over for the 360 vs PS3? Well, the PS3 is ahead of it, so you can bet that the PS4 won't have even half of the trouble remaining a head ot the X1. Marketing =/= insta-buy/win.
AceBlazer13  +   729d ago
Cause Microsoft is just gonna throw all it's cash at Xbox.
hellzsupernova  +   729d ago
@cgi yeah sure after how many years plus the playstation 3 has never outsold the 360
I'm just looking at it without bias. I have a ps4 locked in my flatmate had an xbone ready so I can play both.
moparful99  +   729d ago
@hellz uhh dude Sony has outsold microsoft worldwide since 2009 hence why they've been able to close the gap and pass the 360 for lifetime sales.. Try again.
sloth3395  +   729d ago
too bad sony wont do an early edition like they did with the Vita
jackanderson1985  +   729d ago
i'd assume most US buyers who haven't pre-ordered it will wait till black friday to buy it so the week difference wouldn't make much of a difference (could be wrong though) and in Europe a week won't make much of a difference though works out great for me as the PS4 comes out the day i get my november paycheck so both for me wooo
mxrider2199  +   729d ago
i wonder if they are doing their europe bundle as a bundle for black friday here in the US the lines for every store would be insanely long
bigboirock  +   729d ago
"November paycheck"

i forgot i get a bonus check in November to lol
Popoffboy187718  +   729d ago
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MysticStrummer  +   729d ago
Neither. The time difference isn't big enough to have an impact either way. PS4 might have an advantage launching in more countries, but One could (possibly) sell just as many units in fewer territories. It's all about supply and demand.
PositiveEmotions  +   729d ago
Well lets see ps4 will be out in 32 countries and xb1 in 13 so ps4 has the advantages here.
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Foxgod  +   729d ago
The XB1, it has more and better games.
Mario18  +   729d ago
Sorry but your statement is false
TheKiller9745  +   729d ago
Considering that his comment is purely opinion as is yours and opinions can't be proven true nor false, i'd say that you are wrong. :P
ziggurcat  +   729d ago
that's a delusional, subjective opinion, not fact.
Foxgod  +   729d ago
Well see the reviews, then well see how delusional and false my statement is.
ziggurcat  +   729d ago
so far the reviews of ryse have not been good, so...
MysticStrummer  +   729d ago
If your opinion matches the opinions of reviewers, it doesn't make any of those opinions true.

Also, PS4 has more games coming in the near future than One does.
Foxgod  +   729d ago
Actually, all the reviews combined is the only way to measure the quality of a game, unless you know of a better way.

So the meta will be the deciding factor.
Also, excluding indy's, the Xb1 has a lot more coming in the next year then the ps4.
Sony barely announced anything but indy stuff.

MS on the other hand got around 10 bit budget exclusives games for the western market, for the first year already, and still hasnt announced everything yet.
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M-M  +   729d ago
I have only heard good news for Titanfall and Forza 5. As for the other games, not so much.

Off Topic:

Happy birthday =).
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ziggurcat  +   729d ago
and virtually all of the reviews of ryse, based on hands-on experience at the various conferences in the last few months, have said that the game is a boring, repetitive, clunky QTE fest.
Foxgod  +   729d ago
Tnx, and btw, all previews on Dead rising 3 and Killer instinct are very positive too.
But dont worry about Ryse.
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Narutone66  +   729d ago
Here's a post by someone on N4G, the difference between fact and opinion.
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Clarence  +   729d ago
You need to stop. The only good reviews I hear about ryse are coming from the developers who made it. Everybody else have their not happy with it. I haven't heard anything about DR3.

Sony is going to give M$ the business this gen.
Cheaper and more powerful console. PS4 hands down.
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OrangePowerz  +   729d ago
Sony is fully focused on the launch, they learned from this gen to not go on about games that will be out a year later.

PS4 will have plenty of indie games, but it's still more games. I remember this gen when Sony had more exclusive AAA games and 360 people where saying they had more exclusives and counted indie games. Now suddenly indie games don't count as games because that would mean the PS4 has more launch games.
TheKiller9745  +   729d ago
Of course Ryse isn't getting good reviews! When everyone constantly complains about the gameplay every single day and they try to address those concerns and try to fix the gameplay for the fans over and over again, it's going to be a mess. If everyone would've just accepted the gameplay as it was in the beginning, this wouldn't have happened. Sure, qte's all of the time is boring for most, but the small amount of people that would've enjoyed the game would've been happy. But now it's a mess, so no one will enjoy it like it was meant to be enjoyed.
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MysticStrummer  +   729d ago
"Actually, all the reviews combined is the only way to measure the quality of a game, unless you know of a better way."

Playing it.

"Also, excluding indy's,..."

I stopped reading that paragraph there, since indies are in fact games.

"MS on the other hand got around 10 bit budget exclusives games for the western market, for the first year already, and still hasnt announced everything yet."

But Sony has announced everything I guess?

If you can look at the gaming history of these two companies and...

Ah forget it. There's no point.

Peace and good gaming... while it lasts.
OrangePowerz  +   729d ago

Crytek has a strange way of "fixing". They said people didnt like to have icons displayed and changed to have glowing outlines around the enemies. So it's QTE just presented different and failing the QTE has little impact.

The game was always going to end up as a mess as it was originally a Kinect game. The dumped the motion controlls but basically retained the same gameplay and adapted it for controllers. Crytek isn't good at game design. I liked Far Cry 1 and Crysis 1, but Crysis 2 and 3 was more like a playable tech demo to show off their engine that had most of the good things removed that made their first two games enjoyable.
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Foxhound922  +   729d ago
Oh just like the last two generations ha? Your trolling never ceases to amaze me. I would be surprised if ryse gets over a 7.5, and dead rising might get high 7s and low 8s. Real killer games right. That's not even the point. You must be really dense or have a short memory. Have you forgotten the developers making unannounced games for the ps4? At the end of the generation, let's compare reviewes between consoles. Sony had the last 2, with their momentum this gen, it will be the same. Big budget western games you speak of? I guess Santa Monica, naughty dog, gg, media molecule, quantic dream, eat sleep play and all the other Sony first party big budget games don't count ha?
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AceofStaves  +   729d ago
In your opinion.
cell989  +   729d ago
better games? like Ryse lol or were you referring to the Kinect
darren_poolies  +   729d ago
Better games? Subjective.
More games? False.

PS4 launch games: 26.
Xbox One launch games: 23.
TheKiller9745  +   729d ago
So no one wins here. lol No one can say which games are better because it's subjective, but on the other hand, more games doesn't necessarily mean anything good.
MasterCornholio  +   729d ago
Not a fact its just your opinion that it does.

Gamers will choose the console at launch that has the best line up. So whichever one sells the most is the console that has the best games at launch.

Deal with it.
LoveOfTheGame  +   729d ago
Fanboys just love shifting those goal posts.

First VGchartz becomes reliable, now sales numbers matter. Have fun playing COD aka the best game ever according to you.

Next we're going to start saying metacritic matters.
mxrider2199  +   729d ago
this guy is so delusional its insane lols...
@naru that made me laugh so hard HAHA
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ZHZ90  +   729d ago
"Also, excluding indy's, the Xb1 has a lot more coming in the next year then the ps4. Sony barely announced anything but indy stuff."

Why didn't you excluded Indy's for PS4? Because Sony is announcing more Indies?

Sony has said that their 1st party studios are developing 30 games and 20 of them are coming this PS4's 1st year. What about Xbox One? If you have excluded Indie, Only-Kincet games and games that are on PC(Like Titanfall and Project Spark) they are just 15. Not to mention all we know for those 30 Sony games are Knack, Order:1886, KZ:SF, Infaous:SS and DriveClub that's it for now, as for Xbox One more than half of 15 games are already announced.

Also if you have included games for exclusive, multiplats and indies for PS4 and Xbox One in development, PS4 has 180+ games in development while Xbox One are just 100+.

You maybe love MS and Xbox ok but loving them doesn't you should spread false informations.
Goodluck with your Xbox One.
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modesign  +   729d ago
get ready for 2 months of launch wars and strategic battles between the gaming "journalists".
AngelicIceDiamond  +   729d ago
"PS3 release November 15 2006." and "Xbox 360 release November 22 2005" Who has the advantage? Was appropriate. '

This article, not so much. A week is good but its not considered a gap.
Sevir  +   729d ago
It was actually Nov 17th 2006 for the PS3. And MS had a clear advantage launching with a year head start and a price point $200 below the top end PS3... machine.

This time however, It Sony. Sure MS launches in 13 markets on day one, but in the US, PS4 statistically is out pacing the Xbox One by 2-1 margins, in NA, that covers Canada, US and parts of Latin America. They've got larger stock allocations already. And will have been on the market 2 weeks prior to black Friday so they'll have time to re-stock.

The Xbox one comes out a week later and at $100 more, sure it'll have a small lead givin it's a week before Europe in launch, The PS4 still launches in 19 markets more than the Xbox one on the 29th. So what ever MS gains will quickly be negated due to the larger stock allocations and also still being €100/£100 cheaper...

Both Consoles will have a very successful launch, make no mistake, they'll both sell out, and both will be pleased, but Sony Will likely be trumpeting figures before MS will and that's due to demand and shear popularity and positive consumer and media buzz of the PS4, OH and the fact that it's cheaper.
Dlacy13g  +   729d ago
As long as both are selling out of their launch day supplies neither will have an "advantage" for launch date. You can't sell more than you have to sell.
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5eriously  +   729d ago
Are you saying that the launch day supply numbers are equal for both Sony and M$? Look sonny go learn to think logical and how to estimate or count. Read some facts before committing yourself and making wild ass-sumptions.
Dlacy13g  +   729d ago
Sorry, I think you are missing my point. IF.. Sony and MS both are set to launch in November, and each has production lines running to make the maximum they possibly can deliver in November then its irrelevant as to what day you launch if all of those unit (regardless of amount) are sold out. You can't actually make any more so... lets say for argument sake... MS had a 1 million for launch day and 1 million were pre-ordered. Does it matter if they launch Nov 5 or 22nd? They are launching with as much as they physically can.

I think the more important question to ask is: Is there an advantage to going to production earlier than the competition...and that I would say a resounding YES to. I believe Sony started production in late July / early August... that gave them almost a full month ahead of MS in production time which = more units to ship for their targeted launch day.
Batzi  +   729d ago
The launch date is not a factor. Loyalty to fans is the deciding factor. Sony wins.
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No_Limit  +   729d ago
com on people, it is a week. Doesn't matter as both consoles will be out of stock on the day of release anyway.

As long as I can get mine on the 22nd, that is all that matters.
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lllll-lllll  +   729d ago
Expect Sony crashing a meteor on the store you preordered in now ;-)
llMurcielagoll  +   729d ago
All I know is, it is going to be a hectic month between the two.
Tooly  +   729d ago
always makin something into a competition. Nezt its goin to be ps4 on button vs xbone on button
lllll-lllll  +   729d ago
I wish i could say i was tempted to also buy an xbone, but i'm just not, love windows 8 though :)

Ps4 day one, along with plenty of games, a cam, second controller & the DS4 charge station.
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Majin-vegeta  +   729d ago
Exactly you just need the$400 for the PS4 and you'll be able to play games without buying a single one for launch.
OrangePowerz  +   729d ago
For Black Friday Sony will have a small advantage. Both consoles will be sold out on launch anyway, but Sony has 2 weeks till black Friday to restock the retailers while MS will have one week to restock them.
ziggurcat  +   729d ago
a week isn't going to affect much, but launching in more countries on day one will have more of an impact than anything else.
XboxFun  +   729d ago
Xbox One day one.

A week apart will make no difference. It comes down to what will be available and right now MS has the killer launch line up.
Harmonizer  +   729d ago
MS DOES have more first party content at launch, but Sony DOES have more third-party content at launch so i dont get the point that so many of you xbots like to make all the time.
xHeavYx  +   729d ago
Besides, many of Sony's biggest studios haven't said what they are working on
XboxFun  +   729d ago
The SDF are getting more and more insecure as the launch nears.

You missed my point, in fact that wasn't even the point I was talking about.

Besides, many of MS's biggest studios haven't said what they are working on.
xHeavYx  +   729d ago
Many of MS biggest studios haven't announced a game in over 4 years
Foxhound922  +   729d ago
Sony hasn't announced their big guns yet either, but the fact remains that Sony has more talented developers than ms. Their launch line up is pretty sad, and you are delusional if you think the x1 I'd going to outsell the ps4. I could care less about sales, I care about games, but facts are facts.
5eriously  +   729d ago
Which studios M$ has? You mean the ones they bought out to delay any PS4 releases for now? The ones that will drop M$ like a hot potato after a few weeks due to sales numbers?

Good times ahead. I will be laughing all the way with Sony.
jessupj  +   729d ago
Very excited to see how next generation plays out.
jay2  +   729d ago
Sony need to move the EU launch really, they'll lose so 10.000 people who were waiting to see what game first. If they're smart cookies, they'll do a worldwide launch on 15th.
Pascalini  +   729d ago
Xb1 is earlier in Europe
lllll-lllll  +   729d ago
That depends on where in europe you live! - the basterds, lol
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warewolfSS  +   729d ago
Sony in N A
Microsoft in EU
AceofStaves  +   729d ago
Except that XB1 is only launching in a few European markets at first. That negates any advantage MS would have with the earlier European launch.
pyramidshead  +   729d ago
"The PlayStation 4, it has more and better games."
Foxgod  +   729d ago
Only if you count indy's.
And better, no, lets wait until the reviews.
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Nocando  +   729d ago
Makes no matter to me if Xbox One gets stomped in sales, still getting it over PS4.
Foxhound922  +   728d ago
Sony has had the highest amount of critically acclaimed games and has had a higher amount of higher reviewed games than ms every generation...what's you're point again?
mxrider2199  +   729d ago
just ignore foxgod hes the kid that only plays cod halo and forza and believes in zeh power of ezeh clouds
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