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Submitted by aquamala 359d ago | news

HDMI 2.0 officially announced

"With a bandwidth capacity of up to 18Gbps, it has enough room to carry 3,840 x 2,160 resolution video at up to 60fps. It also has support for up to 32 audio channels, "dynamic auto lipsync" and additional CEC extensions. "

The connector itself is unchanged, ... The cables won't change either, as the group claims (Industry, Tech)

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SephirothX21  +   359d ago
Good. My PC will put this to use!
2pacalypsenow  +   359d ago
If you have a 4k monitor it will
taiyed80  +   359d ago
or those wanting 1080p at 120hz over hdmi
UltimateMaster  +   359d ago
"or those wanting 1080p at 120hz over hdmi"

You already have that with HDMI 1.4

Really, it's to get a faster frequency.

Right now, they are unable to get Active 3D (Not Passive 3D) on a 4K HD TV because there's not enough Bandwidth with the current HDMI, not even with the fastest ones.

And with 8K or 120fps TVs on the Way in the future, you need a better cable.
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2pacalypsenow  +   359d ago
I think DVI does 120hz doesn't it?
SilentNegotiator  +   359d ago
Doesn't HDMI 1.whatever already support 4K?
ziggurcat  +   359d ago
@ silent:

i believe 1.4 supports 4K...
AndrewLB  +   358d ago
Zig- HDMI 1.4, 1.4a, and 1.4b can do 4K×2K i.e. 3840 × 2160p at 30fps maximum. To do 60fps you'd need 2.0.

Taiyed80- HDMI 1.4b can already do 3D 1080p video at 120 Hz
mewhy32  +   358d ago
it's about time that this standard got established. I'd like to see 1080p at 120hz.
TehDiTH  +   358d ago
Why would anyone use HDMI on a PC and not use DVI?
Baka-akaB  +   358d ago
Why should we use DVI over hdmi1 if not going above 1080p? It's the same , bare some issues on ports that would be the monitor's own fault .

And hdmi carry audio , for those that care and use Screens with speakers .
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Kleptic  +   358d ago
^yep...my pc has an APU and mobo with HDMI 1.4 out...My home theater receiver has an HDMI front port...and i leave a standard PC power cord hanging under the entertainment center...my office monitor doesn't have speakers, but has various audio out ports hooked up to the sound system. My desktop is only ever hooked up by 2 cables...

moving my desktop from my office to my living room takes about 5 minutes, and only involves 2 cables (power and hdmi)...my IPS office monitor is 1080p, and my HDTV is too...so i could use dvi (for both, actually), but HDMI is a lot easier in the plug and play nature and not having to mess with additional audio cables...at least for the time being.

in my case...i have no need for additional anything, as the resolutions i do anything at are the same between both displays...and hdmi is currently the easiest and fastest way to handle it...

only thing being i'll be getting a high end discrete gpu for BF4 in early october...which will have hdmi, but i'm not exactly sure how the audio will work with that...can a gpu route sound too? i've actually never looked into it...but either way, my mobo has optical out too, so it'll just be one extra cable...
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malokevi  +   359d ago
HDMI2 + 4K TV + XB1 + PS4 + Kick @$$ speaker setup = (pure bliss / awesome) * amazing
kalkano  +   359d ago
I'd rather ditch the HDMI2, 4K TV, and speaker setup, and go straight for the Occulus Rift. It'll be thousands of dollars cheaper, that way, too.
torchic  +   359d ago
am I the only person who just doesn't give an egg about the Oculus Rift? I was waaaay more interested in Illumroom.

and, what is this article doing on n4g?
malokevi  +   359d ago
Oculus Rift is cool, and I would love to give it a try, but I feel like the tech isn't quite there yet, from what I've read. Plus I don't have a desktop PC, so I wouldn't have any use for it.

My happy place is in front of a big TV, surrounded by tower speakers, with controllers, consoles, and games littered all over the place. Also, more than a few smoking receptacles.
gaffyh  +   359d ago
@torchic - illumiroom is just a projector, with the edges showing selected parts of the projection. It only works in certain light conditions, needs a bigger than average room, and probably costs a bomb. Oculus Rift is much cheaper (going by prototypes) and versatile.
Conzul  +   359d ago
Occulus Rift is impressive tech, but it's the apex of the anti-social experience....no one else can see what you're seeing. Gone would be the "hotseat" moments (as split-screen used to be called), gone also would be all other non-networked MP experiences.

I will never buy into such VR. Too exclusive of other people who want to watch or just chill with you while you pop a few melons.
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badboy776  +   359d ago
These Articles Never include the Price!
IaMs12  +   359d ago
Conzul:

That maybe true but you don't have to use Occulus Rift all the time. If you know people want to watch or will be watching just don't put it on...

Im personally excited for it for the single-player experience aspect, should be fun.
Nafon  +   359d ago
as long as you are going big, throw in a ridiculously powerful PC to that setup.
The Great Melon  +   359d ago
@Conzul

Your thinking way too small. What prevents you from seeing your friends in the virtual world. Unlike standard games, VR really allows you to trick your brain to believe as if you are actually there. The people you see in VR will be convincingly real given that their movement will tie directly into the game. In the end all that separates VR from real life are photons, sound waves, and a little tactile feedback.
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cunnilumpkin  +   359d ago
just like there is ZERO reason or need for a 1080p tv for the ps3 or 360 since 99% of the games are all 720p or less (diablo 3 is 576p on ps3 and 360....lulz)

there is ZERO reason for any tv higher than 1080p for ps4 xbox1

99% of the games will be 1080p or less (many of them will be MUCH LESS than 1080p)

honestly you would be fine with 720p again next gen, most AAA ps4 and xbox1 games will NOT even be native 1080p
GamingTruth  +   359d ago
cunnilumpkin

wouldnt be hilarious to find out if late in the generation that the ps4 and xbox 1 were both upgradeable i would love to see how empty these sites would be of pc nerds and fanboys of pc then
Ritsujun  +   358d ago
lol, Ocuwut?
Jazz4108  +   358d ago
Since were of topic did anyone see microsoft purchased Nokia yesterday for 8 billiion? On topic this will be nice for the new 4 k tvs.
Baka-akaB  +   358d ago
"just like there is ZERO reason or need for a 1080p tv for the ps3 or 360 since 99% of the games are all 720p or less (diablo 3 is 576p on ps3 and 360....lulz) "

There are big reasons to get one actually ... that would be the tv's quality itself . I wouldnt trust many 720p only screens to be as good for many things (like depth of black and colors , or refresh rate and input lag) to be better than some models at 1080p and soon above ..

Besides that 1% of games might be someone's favorite and good enough .

Finally , do you even know many people that solely game and can't use a 1080p screen for videos ?
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ironfist92  +   359d ago
What the heck is Ultra HDTV?
ATi_Elite  +   358d ago
Yippie

$75 HDMI 2.0 cable to connect to a $10000 Monitor

:(

Seriously though 4K monitors are dropping in price but it's gonna be a year before they are mass production affordable.
wtopez  +   358d ago
Yup! Just a quick change to the .ini file and you're off. (decent upgrade required to the GPU though).
GiantEnemyCrab  +   359d ago
Do the new consoles support this format?
modesign  +   359d ago
yes
yewles1  +   359d ago
No, only 1.4a, no 4K/60 here...
Stsonic  +   359d ago
For video not games.
Neixus  +   359d ago
This isn't compatible,i believe.
But the cable included in both ps4 and xbone supports 4k, only for videos and pictures though.
GiantEnemyCrab  +   359d ago
Thanks for the info. I didn't figure games would be pushing the 4K benchmark anytime soon on consoles.
DOMination-  +   359d ago
X1 will support 4k gaming, it's been confirmed many times (whether there will be any is another matter)
Stsonic  +   359d ago
A top end PC can hardly support 4k right now so good luck with that.
kneon  +   359d ago
You won't be getting 4K games without HDMI 2.0 as 1.4 is limited to 24fps. That's too low for the majority of games.

But I don't recall either Microsoft or Sony saying what version of HDMI they are using. If I recall correctly the PS3 shipped only a few months after 1.3 as finalized so we may seem the same situation again.
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Kingnichendrix  +   359d ago
4k Pac Man
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AbortMission  +   359d ago
You just went full r3tard, never go full r3tard Lol
Dasteru  +   359d ago
No, it hasn't.

It has been confirmed that the X1 (aswell as the PS4) will support 4k resolution output, there has never been any official mention of it being for gaming though. So far it is only for movies/TV etc.

The XB1 wouldn't be able to play anything more than indies at that res and even then, the current HDMI 1.4 standard only supports 4k@24fps, no higher.
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Rhaigun  +   359d ago
X1 can barely do 1080p at 60fps. How in the world would you expect it to do 4k?
wtopez  +   358d ago
@Conzul

I wish you would say such rubbish to Kingnichedrix in person and not behind a k/b and mouse. The punch to the face you would receive would make you a better person from that point on.
AceBlazer13  +   359d ago
o3o so.... what does this mean.
modesign  +   359d ago
a new HDMI cord that will be more expensive.
mushroomwig  +   359d ago
Not by much, it's still just a digital signal at the end of the day. You'd be an idiot if you paid more than £5 for one.
BISHOP-BRASIL  +   359d ago
If I understood this right, the cord itself won't change, the ports on hardware will in case they support HDMI 2.0.
GameSpawn  +   359d ago
Of course. Just because of this you'll be assured $200 Monster HDMI 2.0 cables that are just re-branded $15 made in China HDMI 2.0 cables.

The savvy shopper will avoid the bloated cables as they always have. There is NO reason for any reasonable length (3ft-10ft) of HDMI 1.3, 1.4, or 2.0 cables to cost more than $20-25 for a quality cable.

I can understand $100+ on cables over 50ft as the gauge of the wire MUST get bigger (smaller number) to have the ability to carry the signal over a longer distance; thicker wires + longer wires = more metal (copper in this case) = more money (copper ain't cheap -- it's used in EVERYTHING; high demand high price).
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Mario18  +   359d ago
Featured on PS5 and XBox One 2

Supports up to 32 speakers. Okay who has 32 speakers in their house? I am being serious

Watch people connect it to their 20" tv screens and DVD player and rejoice about how much better it is than HDMI 1
SatanSki  +   359d ago
Yes, lets stop the progress
admiralvic  +   359d ago
"Supports up to 32 speakers. Okay who has 32 speakers in their house? I am being serious "

Who doesn't have 32 speakers?!

Anyway. A lot of these features are pointless to most people, but they still give you the option down the road or allow you more freedom than before. Like my boss has 9 speakers in his celling (they go to the Kitchen and are designed so you can stand anywhere and hear things perfecting), 2 large speakers next to the TV and a subwoofer. So this is 11 / 12 out of the possible 32. I am sure there are people with bigger houses, crazier dreams and more than enough money to make them work.

Same sort of logic with Xbox One supporting 8 controllers. Who is going to use this feature? Maybe 0.001% of all owners, but no sense in telling them no. Especially when people had an uproar about the Wii U only supporting 1 tablet (now it supports 2 I believe).
cell989  +   359d ago
I only have 7 and 2 sub woofers, enough for now
Campy da Camper  +   359d ago
Wait, the WiiU supports 2 tablets now?????
admiralvic  +   359d ago
@ Campy da Camper

http://www.ign.com/articles...

Yes
Zancruz  +   359d ago
@cell989 Nice, Im rocking 9 speakers and 2 subwoofers... Its never enough for me, i want to add 2 more Subs! :)
SniperControl  +   359d ago
THX set-ups in cinemas have over 40 speakers all around the room, even home THX set-ups can come with over 20 speaker channels.
However you are looking around £10000 for just the amp and around the same for top end speakers. Check this out.

http://gizmodo.com/353963/6...

This was setup by a sound engineer and cost $6 mil.
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I agree with almost everything you say guys but...XBox One...2? Dont you mean XBox Two?
DFray919  +   359d ago
:( more stuff to buy!
modesign  +   359d ago
when is this coming out
theWB27  +   359d ago
Both PS4 and X1 are HDMI 1.4
johny5  +   359d ago
actually the hardware was finished along time ago and sony has to do is update the ps4 and all 4k TV's with a firmware!
likeaboss302  +   358d ago
Johny5 you're correct that the TVs just require a firmware flash. Hopefully the consoles can do the same.
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DirtyPimp  +   359d ago
i wonder what the cost will be, im buying it for the 4k tv im getting.
MidnytRain  +   359d ago
It's a cable. I wouldn't pay more than a few bucks.
Niv  +   359d ago
In Six years time the ps5 will need this
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taiyed80  +   359d ago
finally, 1080p 120hz on hdmi
johny5  +   359d ago
actually that can be done currently with hdmi 1.4 granted you need a 4k tv
Bobbo44  +   358d ago
No... HDMI can't handle the bandwidth for 1080p 120hz. Just try it. Don't know what a 4k has to do with that?
EXVirtual  +   359d ago
4K incoming. Obviously 4K isn't used for games this gen, but you can expect 4K with the PS5, XB2 and whatever Nintendo puts out. But I'm not sure if the next gen after this one will be at 4K 60fps. Lol.
dcj0524  +   359d ago
Because sony isnt investing an absurd amount of money into PS4 they'll make a lot of profit and then invest alot into the PS5 to actually make it stronger than gaming PCs.
Vip3r  +   359d ago
Consoles will never be as powerful as PCs. Just stating a fact.
AbortMission  +   359d ago
Nintendo and 4k?

Lol, they're barely reaching 1080p
The_Villager  +   358d ago
That's why Wii U has more games out AND in development in native 1080p than PS4 or X1. Troll harder little boy.
Mirage749  +   358d ago
@The_Villager

Considering the Wii U has been out for nearly a year, and the PS4 and XB1 have two months before they're even available to the public, that's not a difficult feat to accomplish.
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GamingTruth  +   359d ago
Viper fact is if sony wanted to they could easily obliterate pc money is the only barrier wary of what the consumer will or wont buy if that barrier was gone pc would be a nothing in the meantime try running ps3 and ps4 and even xbox 360 or xbox 1 games on pc at any resolution. just stating a fact
ZoyosJD  +   359d ago
About time. I'll finally be able to get a tv with a standardized port for my PC and future consumer electronic devices. Been waiting for what feels like forever. Now for a quality TV to hit the sweet spot in price.
Sharp  +   359d ago
I really really hope we could skip 4K and go straight to 8K. There are already 8K prototypes and that will be the "final resolution". 8K does not need any 3D or other effects, because the resolution creates a completely real "window" to another world. It's more like 4D, looks like you can touch it.

Don't believe me? See for yourself: http://www.youtube.com/watc...

You can see this thing in Tokyo :)
cell989  +   359d ago
Dude no, one step at time
dcj0524  +   359d ago
4K can be the new 720p and 8k the new 1080p. Even so. It will be A WHILE before 8K even aproaches standard.. As in 2030. We're just now finally making 1080p standard in games. And websites still aren't capable of streaming true 1080p with no quality loss. We have a long time to go.
Sharp  +   358d ago
Well, NHK aims to have first test broadcasts in Japan 2020 in 8K. The plausible Tokyo Olympic Games of 2020 are planned to have 8K test feed, too.

So, no, it's not 2030, it's more like 2021. What I am saying, if we invested into this technology and research it pro-actively, we could squeeze it to around 2017.

1080p took 20years to hit the market. 4K took 5yrs. So why can't 8K be done in the same or even faster? Because of political will and corporations who want to make money long-term. It's not a conspiracy, it's just an old-fashioned business model.

Which is why customers should spark discussion to provide information to people so technology can move in correlation of human innovation rather than some corporate wallet.

Let's start an 8K Ballmer chant! 8K 8K 8K!!!
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jmc8888  +   359d ago
They'll go over 8k, they've been talking about 16k for movies for almost a decade.
solidboss07  +   359d ago
Ahh...... good. Now we shall see 'on screen' what XBone can really do with its higher clocked CPU and Cloud Power, phwert........shng...... ha... Ha..... HA Haaaaa Haaaaa Haa!!
AbortMission  +   359d ago
Lol!
DrJones  +   358d ago
Trolling.
cell989  +   359d ago
My question is, will PS4 support HDMI 2.0?
inf3cted1  +   359d ago
no
FlyingFoxy  +   359d ago
Even good PC's run best at 1080p, further more you go the frame rate goes to crap.. like 30 or less.

Only recently people kept saying PS4 would do 4K games, yeah possibly mobile games but no way detailed games would ever run smooth on that.

4k struggles to hit high frame rates on good computers, then add in dual graphics cards and you end up with another issue of micro stutter.

1080p or 1440p will be the best resolution for quality and speed for a long time.
aquamala  +   359d ago
disagree, it's true right now you'll need dual high end GPUs to do 4k at good frame rates but in 4-5 years a mid range GPU will be able to do 4k, and 4k displays will be a lot cheaper too.
NarooN  +   359d ago
Prices will drop, GPU's will get stronger, but 4K still won't be the "standard". 1080p has existed for ages, yet it's still pretty much the standard for PC's and is just now becoming the standard for consoles, and even then on the consoles we will still see a lot of sub-1080p games.
Plagasx  +   359d ago
Can't wait to see the Monster Brand prices :)
assdan  +   359d ago
Let's hope the 2014 nvidia and AMD cards use 2.0!
level 360  +   359d ago
Monster cables are the BIGGEST SCAM/SCUM BUCKETS this side of the audio/video cable industry.
yellowgerbil  +   359d ago
yeah them and best buy tricked me back when made the move to hdtv back in 07/08. Don't shop at best buy any more mainly because of the way they try to scam their customers, karma is a b*tch, glad to see the chain going bankrupt, hopefully monster will too
josephayal  +   359d ago
Good news for Console Gamers
kingduqc  +   359d ago
For those who think 4k at 60 fps is a dream, It is possible on a PC with a 7990/690 or dual high end gpu in about 99% of the games with most of the settings cranked up.

In 4-5 years every mid range gpu for 300$ will offer 4k, We'll just have to wait for monitor price to go down south of 1 grand and Ima be playing in 4k real soon
iMixMasTer872   359d ago | Spam
MidnytRain  +   359d ago
According to benchmarks, you're lucky to get over 30 frames with everything cranked up on single gpu at 4k.
ZoyosJD  +   358d ago
The GTX 880 and Radeon HD 9970 (October release likely) are expected to have ~40-45% power increase over a GTX TITAN due to the shift to 20nm production.

In other words BF4 maxed out @4k ~45-50fps on a single GPU for those that want to avoid micro-stutter.
JuniorCE  +   359d ago
So... Can the PS4 and X1 use the new HDMI 2.0?
ABeastNamedTariq  +   359d ago
No, they use 1.4.
ZoyosJD  +   358d ago
The connectors and cables remain the same, so essentially any HDMI 1.4 device that can handle the bandwidth only requires a firmware upgrade to use 2.0.

http://www.hdmi.org/manufac...

Still, don't expect everyone to be putting it to use anytime soon, as the only TV currently announced to use it is $6000, and the majority of the better known brands will still be priced over $2000 going into next year.
JunioRS101  +   359d ago
I'm selling my home, my children, my vehicles, my clothes... Everything is gone. But at least I can now buy this mystical cable.
yellowgerbil  +   359d ago
I'm surprised that the PS4 only does 1080p. They have 4k tvs by sony and historically they seem to use the playstation brand to push their other products (blu ray, 3d tvs, dvds, cds...)
Zancruz  +   359d ago
The PS4 does do 4k for movies...
GamingTruth  +   359d ago
the money barrier if there wasnt one graphics tech for sony gaming devices would be unparalleled beyond belief
NarooN  +   359d ago
The PS4 does support 4K, but only for video (most likely movies, since the framerate is limited to 24fps for 4K) since HDMI 1.4 can't handle more than 4K/24fps.

Even without the HDMI bandwidth restrictions, there's also the pure lack of GPU power and memory bandwidth to support playable framerates at 4K res. Even if the PS4 did support HDMI 2.0, the only 4K gaming you could do with the current specs would perhaps be PS2 games, and 2D indie titles and such.
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johny5  +   359d ago
hey who wouldn't like to play kingdom hearts or final fantasy 10-12 in 4k?
JuniorCE  +   359d ago
PS4 does play 4k movies!!!
rataranian  +   359d ago
My eyes cant handle that much definition. =}
kingPoS  +   359d ago
Yes they can... consumer technology is just now catching up to what the human eye can filter & process.
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rataranian  +   358d ago
WHooo!! 3200p here I come! =D
meday354  +   359d ago
Wow, nice!
Cuders  +   359d ago
I WILL GET THIS ALONG WITH A 4K SONY TV.
SynestheticRoar  +   359d ago
Sweet looking forward to getting 2.
johny5  +   359d ago
This shout out goes to all those rich people that bought those early 4k TV's so we can have cheaper HDMI 2.0 4k TV's. thank u...
johny5  +   358d ago
HDMI 2.0 is on the hardware site the same as previous HDMI versions.

Every HDMI 1.4 device can be updated to support 2.0. I guess both consoles will get an Update to include HDMI 2.0 at some point.

Source: http://www.theinquirer.net/...
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