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Heavy Rain was turned down by Microsoft over child kidnapping story

Heavy Rain was turned down by Microsoft due to its child kidnapping story, it has been revealed.

Speaking at this year's BAFTA annual games lecture, Quantic Dream head of development David Cage said the publisher was "scared" of the controversy it could cause.

"We were pitching Heavy Rain to different publishers, including Sony, and we went to Microsoft," he told attendees including Digital Spy.

"We had a very long talk and they loved Fahrenheit, and they really wanted to do something with us.

"They got scared by the fact that Heavy Rain was about kids being kidnapped, and they said, 'This is an issue, we want to change it'." Well, we could have kidnapped cats, it would be a different experience!

"For me, that was a very interesting signal. It was like, you know what, I don't think we can work together, because you don't understand what I'm to achieve here.

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mafiahajeri1056d ago

Interesting, never thought for a second this would be the reason.

JoGam1056d ago

And 360 is supposed to be Hardcore.

ironfist921056d ago (Edited 1056d ago )

Heavy Rain obviously isnt intended for the Xbox Market

Hence why games like Gears of War and Halo and Call of Duty are the big sellers

hakeem09961056d ago

MS as an American company they had a valid reason to be a Lil cautious .Soccer moms are so quick to call boycott when kids are involved . You win some,you lose some

JoGam1056d ago

@ Hakeem0996,

No soccer mom should be buying their kid Heavy Rain or any rated M game for that matter.

spicelicka1056d ago (Edited 1056d ago )

ironfist92

Stop with this "meant for xbox" BS seriously. Like wth do you know what the xbox market likes? They are the same humans and gamers as the Sony market, and many own both systems.

MS didn't discuss it with their customers before rejecting Quantic's proposal. And just because the xbox has Gears and Halo doesn't mean those are the only games xbox gamers like.

It's amazing how little some people think before they talk.

malokevi1056d ago

Strange how people try and spin such a... relative issue.

Microsoft made a judgement call. Obviously the subject matter disturbed them enough that they didn't want to take the risk.

Personally, I hate it when movies exploit childhood innocence just for shock value. I'm not sure if that's what happens in heavy rain, but I can understand why MS reacted the way they did.

In the end, it's up to them. It slides right off my back... I only knew the game existed by name. Next gen I'm getting both MS' and Sony's consoles, so I wont miss an exclusive like this. But, even if I had a PS3, chances are I wouldn't have played it anyways.

I'm sure it's a fantastic game, but it's just not for me. Not for MS either, apparently.

LOL_WUT1056d ago

Good thing they didn't go to Nintendo Iwata would've flipped out ;)

NukaCola1056d ago

Heavy Rain was an amazing emotional story driven experience. Sad MS didn't want to make room for something this amazing to change the pace of all those shooters. Strange too since Indigo Prophecy was on the original Xbox.

ironfist921056d ago

@spicelicka

Wth do I know what the Xbox market likes? Well I dunno, why dont you ask the people who buy those games, and also tell me which sells more

NumOnePS3FanBoy1056d ago

JoGam you are completely right in that no soccer mom should be buying these types of games. I would bow to the company that give them a quick response of the like " ok... so don't buy it. Put shades. walks the fuck off making them look like idiots"

TheRealHeisenberg1056d ago

@ ironfist92

And why are shooters constantly the biggest sellers for the Playstation market?

gaffyh1056d ago

@malokevi - Nothing like that happens in Heavy Rain. All that happens is literally the kid gets kidnapped, and then you don't really see him until towards the end of the game.

It's a valid reason from MS, but it shows that they don't let their developers be creative. They always want to "play it safe", and they cause a lot of problem even for first party developers, hence Bungie leaving.

P0werVR1055d ago

^^^

Bungie leaving had a lot more to do with Microsoft empowering them as a company and being as respectable as they are now.

If anything, Microsoft is known for being the most developer friendly company. Simply because they are a developers driven company.

minimur121055d ago (Edited 1055d ago )

This hasn't got anythign to do with not being for Xbox market, it's shows how out of touch MS are with their gamers.

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Shadowsteal1056d ago

Too bad, Heavy Rain was incredibly profitable.

badboy7761056d ago

Games like alan wake aren't intended for the 360 audience.

fardan851056d ago

I thought it might have been rejected because of the gameplay, I didn't think it will be rejected because of a story related reason.

Off topic:
Any one knows about QD tech Kara if it will be a game or not? I really want them to make it a game.
Here's a vid for people who haven't seen it.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

black0o1056d ago

"snif'' ''snif'' NooOo its jsut a tech demo

Hicken1056d ago

I regret to inform you that black0o is correct. Kara is only a tech demo.

But I'd be ever so happy if it were more than that. That's one of the best concepts I've ever seen.

HammadTheBeast1056d ago

Sadly no.

Like the Dark Sorcerer, this will remain a techie.

hazelamy1056d ago

it's a shame, because i really want to know what happens next for Kara.

mike32UK1056d ago (Edited 1056d ago )

Cage said it's just a tech demo. However, the are certain trademarks and domain names registered to QD in relation to the title 'singularity' such as http://m.uk.gamespot.com/ne...

The technological singularity, or simply the singularity, is a theoretical point in time when human technology (and, particularly, technological intelligence) will have so rapidly progressed that, ultimately, a greater-than-human intelligence will emerge, which will "radically change human civilization, and perhaps even human nature itself." (wikipedia)

Shake_Zula1056d ago

There's Beyond Two Souls... Chances are it was rejected by MS as well for having child soldiers, but it looks amazing, and it looks like the Kara character model was used for Ellen Page's character.

The Casting Call Tech Demo was the same way for Heavy Rain where the character was used, but not the story.

Here's the game site; check out the trailers.
http://beyondps3.com/

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DigitalAnalog1056d ago

What people seem to be missing here is that this is ONE of the factors of why there games "exclusive" to one console.

It is not so ho-hum as many fanboys like to believe that developers want to limit their marketshare. No. Sometimes, it's just as simple as getting rejected by a publisher.

So the next time you all go "bu bu bu bu bu bu I don't want deh deh deh exclusives in da platform I hate" just remember YOUR platform holder might have rejected it.

I believe this was the same case with LBP. So yeah, more power to exclusives - better to have a limited fanbase than have none at all.

StoutBEER1056d ago (Edited 1056d ago )

@SPICELIKA Really? That many disagrees for a truthful comment? Is every Playstation fan on here a complete and udder idiot?! You know what I love Playstation as much as Xbox but I stuck with 360 cause it had better online servers and I love Halo. But you really think all Xbox gamers play is Halo?! Heres what I currently play on a day to day basis; Battlefield 3, Halo 4, Minecraft, CS Go, GTA IV, just finished Mass Effect trilogy. Now some of my other favorite games; Red Dead, Trials Evo, Aegis Wing, Bioshock Infinite, Battleblock Theatre, Mortal Kombat 9, I can go on and on. I was also VERY vocal that TLOU looked awesome and i was soo close to buying a PS3 for that game. I do plan on getting a PS4 eventually, but it has made me sadder today to know that you will be on there as we'll. Because you're idiocy is a special kind.

Pissed off ranting was not meant for you, Spicekilla. It's meant for the morons that disliked you're comment.

Gorilla_Killa_X1056d ago

You claim same love for both consoles, yet you don't even own a PlayStation. All the games PlayStation has and you basically say that TLOU almost had you, but not even it would deter you from your beloved XBox.

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney1056d ago (Edited 1056d ago )

their heads were in the cloud I guess..

bigfish1055d ago

MS what a bunch of pussies - Heavy rain was a good game

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okmrman1056d ago (Edited 1056d ago )

yet they allowed call of duty which included shooting up an airport filled with innocent civilians?

something doesnt add up

HammadTheBeast1056d ago

Or Gears, where you can take a chainsaw, rip it straight into an enemy, nd out through the back of their throat.

okmrman1056d ago

ummm no
thats a bad comparison

how old are you?

JKelloggs1056d ago

Yeah, because that's the same..

jackanderson19851056d ago

i do believe an option to skip that entire scene was included in the game for the sensitive type... don't think you could skip over the whole child kidnapping in Heavy Rain

Cueil1056d ago

they didn't market and publish that game as their own

JKelloggs1056d ago

They highly publish their exclusivity rights, don't they?

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OrangePowerz1056d ago

Kidnapping kids doesn`t really appeal to the bro culture that CoD or Gears of War target. Plus that hinders the sales as it appears to a smaller audience.

mafiahajeri1056d ago (Edited 1056d ago )

You have the option to skip that part before you start the game. It says there's offensive stuf in the game do you want to not see it? Something like that, but it's still there. With heavy rain it's a big part of the story so I guess it's harder for them to avoid.

HammadTheBeast1056d ago

Committing the genocide of millions of Locus isn't bad? OK.

Me-Time1056d ago (Edited 1056d ago )

to be fair, multi-plat...

any game involving the killing of people should be considered if you're viewing it as an issue of morality. GTA let's you "do it" with hookers. Considering we're (me and Microsoft) in 'Merica, taking drugs (not alcohol, because that's not a drug! /s) in Saint's Row and sexual deviancy (sex before marriage, PREPOSTEROUS! /s) should be a huge issue too.

Something doesn't add up? It's a business. Not letting CoD be sold on the Xbox for THAT one reason would be sort of like what China (and other countries obviously) does in their country with blocking particular movies. I'm saying it's like that, not exactly like that. Point is, Microsoft sucks. They won't produce an IP because of the scandals that may come from it. They just suck.

They'll still sell CoD, because why not? It'll be far worse in a gamers eye to not release that CoD, an online centric multi-plat, for THAT one reason than it would be to do what Microsoft did/didn't do with a SINGLE PLAYER game like Heavy Rain. As much as I dislike Microsoft, your example isn't any better than HammadTheBeast's. But at least his example covered an exclusive game that in all only sells a fraction of what CoD sells on Xbox.

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cyguration1056d ago

Wow, so as long as the subject matter is leave-your-brain-at-the-door it's okay, but if it deals with something serious then it's a no-go?

Interesting

kneon1056d ago

Have you not noticed that most supposedly mature xbox games are actually rather juvenile, though that applies to most multiplatform games as well.

cyguration1056d ago

Now that I think about it, you're right.

It never really dawned on me before because I oftentimes left my brain at the door, but yeah... recalling exclusive "Mature" games on the Xbox 360, they were pretty daft thinking back on them -- storyline wise, anyway.

kneon1056d ago (Edited 1056d ago )

But it's not just Microsoft, as I said most mature multiplat games have similar issues. There just aren't many publishers willing to commit to games that are actually mature. I guess they are afraid such titles would be too niche to succeed.

paul-p19881056d ago

Come to think of it i remember when Heavy Rain was first announced for PS3 and David Cage kept mentioning that Sony were 'willing to take a risk' to get their game out there. This must be why they said it...

tbh, it didn't feel like much of a risk to me, you see a lot worse in movies... but it was a brilliant game, a game that actually makes you stop and think, and even pulls out emotions from you (i never cry or get upset by films etc, but where you lose the boy in the mall was brilliant and actually made me feel a little sad... THAT is a sign of a good game!)

Bigpappy1056d ago

Indigo prophecy did not sell close to well on Xbox. So to fund the same type of game would be a high risk move. It might have turned out well, but sill did not set the sales charts on fire. So Quantic Dreams owns Sony for letting them make their dream game. But I think they should not be doing business off of emotion. If they think their is a market base on xbox, they should jump at the opportunity to sell more copies. But that's just me.

macethedon1056d ago (Edited 1056d ago )

Well if that's the case, then you know that David Cage isn't driven by money, which is a good thing, surely.

HammadTheBeast1056d ago

It sold 2.5 million which is great for a new IP in this sort of genre, especially an exclusive.

The main thing this game did though, was get Quantic Dream exposure. People know them now, Beyond will probably have similar sales, not as great due to PS4, but great nonetheless. That sets them up for a bright futue in the middle of next-gen.

YNWA961056d ago

Activision publishes COD. Quantic wanted MS to publish the game for them. No big loss, I picked it up, and games like this make me hope they do not become too realistic, they will stop feeling like video games. A video game has to feel like a video game, the reason I love playing them....