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Submitted by NatureOfLogic 393d ago | news

Xbox One now in full production with improved CPU performance

Xbox chief marketing officer Yusef Mehdi just spoke at the Citi Global Technology Conference and said Microsoft is now in full production for the Xbox One and producing in mass with plans still on for a November 2013 launch. (Xbox One)

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Kayant  +   393d ago
With the design of the XB1 it makes sense they are able to do all these small overclocks before launch.
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Pope_Kaz_Hirai_II  +   393d ago
Cant wait for the massive increase in performance i expect to play KI at 1080p and 120fps.
golding89  +   393d ago | Well said
1.75 GHZ from 1.6 GHZ. very nice upgrade boost. No doubt.
Foxgod  +   393d ago
The pope is just butthurt that all of the games he will play are locked at 30 fps.
FrigidDARKNESS  +   393d ago
If you ould like to see the increase in performance check out the latest demo of DR3 fr http://www.youtube.com/watc... pax prime and compare it to the gamescom and e3 build.
shoddy  +   393d ago | Well said
They still have last gen ddr3 ram
Foxgod  +   393d ago | Well said
Dead rising 3 was indeed very smooth running on Pax.

@shoddy,
DDR3 is current gen, as its the current standard for cpu related ram.
Just like Gddr5 (which is based on DDr3) is the current gen ram for gpu related computing.

The next standards (DDR4 and GDDR6 wont be out until 2014).
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vulcanproject  +   393d ago
The clocks were always going to be defined once the chip yields were known. If they were good, you would get better clocks. In this case it seems they are fair to middling. The target was 1.6-2.0ghz and they are somewhere in the middle.

Its a 10 percent increase over a 1.6ghz baseclock. Not exactly going to blow the doors off but hey.

Sony have probably been doing the same fine tuning of clocks as they see what sort of yields they get coming off the production line.

Its pretty important you don't go too high or you throw away too many chips. This isn't like a PC part here where stuff that doesn't make the grade you can cut bits off and flog cheaper.

It all has to work at the defined speed and voltage tolerance exactly the same as the first machine rolls off the line or its junked.
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hazardman  +   393d ago | Well said
@ shoddy

You mean the same DDR3 ram found in 99.9% of PCs.
wsoutlaw87  +   393d ago
its found in pcs but the better graphics cards are using gddr5
darthv72  +   393d ago
@vulcan, i dont disagree with your thoughts but keep in mind the PS4 will also incorporate an internalized power supply. the amount of heat generated by the chips, coupled with that of the power supply will have to be taken into account for proper cooling.

So if sony stuck with stock clocks of 1.6 to keep heat lower, they could still have the edge in performance with the memory as well as board layout reducing the traces between components.

MS has the larger case design and no internal power supply so that gives them a bit of breathing room to work with finding the sweet spot for their chips to heat dissipation ratio.
NatureOfLogic   393d ago | Trolling | show
Eonjay  +   393d ago
The PS4 is said to have maximum of 2.75 GHZ according to the readily available FCC papers. What is the official word. Last I heard it was supposed to only do 2Ghz on retail consoles.
vulcanproject  +   393d ago
I seriously doubt they even changed the voltage for this darthv72. If their projected minimum was 1.6ghz and they hit 1.75 at the same voltage then the power and heat difference in such a small CPU is negligible, next to nothing.

You have to remember even if Sony run their CPU @ 2ghz with a small voltage bump, these consoles are designed with heavy duty power saving capabilities. They have vastly superior performance per watt. The CPU design both consoles are based around is one you can put in a tablet....

They'll be full of gates so that you can turn off bits and pieces individually to save power. I seriously doubt either of them has a TDP in excess of 200 watts and I would guess probably even less than 175w.

Original phat PS3 was about 210w max load and original 360 about 190.

I can't see PS4 having anything less than a bunch of heatpipes directly over the main chip to be able to fit in a case that small. Its not a worry producing a bit more heat, as long as your cooling design is up to the job.

If you don't engineer in a fair bit of overhead then you're an idiot. So learnt the guy long since fired responsible for Xbox 360's original cooling design....
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malokevi  +   393d ago | Well said
Awesome news... next up, pulling the tape from hotchips off the corner that gpu and accounting for the missing transistors....

dGPU? :)

The tables are set to turn in a big way when the AMD nda deadline hits.

@eonjay

KZ demo revealed the Ps4 cpu clock to be set at 1.6ghz. 2ghz rumor turned out to be dev kits.
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trafalger  +   393d ago
m$ likely took a very reserved clockspeed because of what happened with the x360, every time someone turned the system on astronauts would see it from the space station. now that they know how cool it runs (its also supposed to very quiet) they can push it a little harder.

“This will be the biggest launch we’ve ever done by a wide margin in terms of units shipped at launch,” Mehdi said."

this is very interesting. i imagine both companies will be eager to update us any chance they get with hardware sales. the days of sony being silent during npd reports will be long gone. it looks like the ps4 will be doing much better in the u.s. but the big question will be how the xbone does outside of that region.
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JokesOnYou  +   393d ago | Well said
Good info, so I have a few notes that come to mind based on this news:

Last gen Microsoft made changes to xbox 360 just months before launch the first 360 didn't roll off the assembly line until 69 days before Nov 22nd launch, http://money.cnn.com/2006/0... if they are working under a similar timeframe with X1 that would be about Nov 22-27, depending when was the exact date they started full production, but considering they've improved production streamlines and are doubling efforts from past experience with 360 I'd say anytime in Nov is certainly possible.

I wouldn't make any hard predictions about performance/final specs, I mean even prior to these improved specs X1 was a very capable machine, now with new information showcasing how incredibly customized the X1 architecture is, we know the GPU was bumped from 800 to 853 and now the CPU from 1.6 to 1.75 yet theres still some things not clarified from the Hot Chips conference like the 8gb of flash memory and 15 special purpose processors, etc. http://semiaccurate.com/201... It will be interesting to see if some of these things end up not adding anything significant to the overall performance or if that 8bg of flash helps reduce the OS footprint/efficiency for allocated 3gb of RAM either way bench tests will be very interesting but truth is as I've said all along these 2 consoles will be relatively identical in performance.

So the bottom line once again is money, ideas, dev tools, time, resources and most importantly talent are going to be the deciding factors in exclusive quality even more so than any gen ever before. Both sony and Microsoft clearly have talent, with sony imo having a couple more 1st party, while micro has a major cash advantage, consequently I believe this gen is going to be extremely competitive even more than the last and I think micro holds the X factor since clearly they can buy talent(3rd party exclusives to make up the gap between sony's 1st party) so depending on how they execute their overall Kinect, Media/TV strategy while remaining focused on core games for the longterm micro could really have something special on their hands; either way all this point to it being a long and awesome gen for all gamers.
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pixelsword  +   393d ago
Don't... Meh, why not?

http://youtu.be/mjCRUvX2D0E...
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EVILDEAD360  +   393d ago
@ Jokes,

Well F-ing said. +bubz Best post
I've seen on 4g for awhile. I can't wait
for November.

I'm getting an Xbox One at launch but there no way in hades that I won't own both consoles and a Vira by the end of next gen. Too many great games coming down the line.

It's funny looking back when nobody believed me when I said this grn was coming this year. Lol.

Evil
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vulcanproject  +   392d ago
@Jokesonyou

If you think the consoles will be near identical performance wise you should probably read your own quoted semi accurate source and particularly the part that says the GPU performance gap is pretty huge and Sony easily wins performance wise because of that.....

That site themselves only said what everyone else with some tech knowledge has pointed out. Nice fancy system design for Xbone to work with all the media functions but it'll still essentially get trounced by Sony's better gaming hardware.

http://semiaccurate.com/201...
Read the article and go down the bottom. It's all there.
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UltimateMaster  +   392d ago
Why is everyone saying DDR3 is last gen?....
God, I swear, some people know nothing about technology...

Look, DDR3 is the HIGHEST CPU RAM ON THE MARKET.
GDDR5 Increases the GPU AND IT'S THE HIGHEST GPU RAM ON THE MARKET.

Obviously, The GDDR5 is at least 2.5 times faster and can get far better performances than the regular DDR3 when it comes to games.

But calling DDR3 last gen is just so completely ignorant and stupid.

The PS4 is still superior regardless this CPU increase, but it's not going to suck tremendously. It's just the PS4 will be superior in many ways and will have much better graphics.

In the end, High-End graphics is irrelevant if you have a poor Game Play experience, let us not forget that. Graphics aren't the only thing that makes a game great.
Lou Ferrigno  +   392d ago
haha 120fps?.. Slow motion gaming?.. I think you may be on to something here ;)
knockknockannefrank  +   392d ago
doesn't overclocking increase the risk of overheating?
Death  +   392d ago
Overclocking a budget processor can definately lead to over heating. When a processor is stamped, the initial batch is typically a better yield due to the freshness of the tooling. These are typically pulled aside and marketed as black tie or something similar to show they are of a higher quality. The over-clocking community buys these processors.

AMD is custom making the chips for both consoles. Due to the quantity of processors that need stamped, they are rated much lower than they should since tool degradation is calculated in during the design process. Microsoft isn't over-clocking, they are pushing them closer to what they should be capable of. The box design and size are what compensate for any additional heat build up. Sony's smaller design prevents them from doing the same.
esemce  +   392d ago
Lol never gonna happen. You will be lucky to get 1080p @60fps.
dantesparda  +   392d ago
Come on Sony, you're sleeping on it here. You gotta up your game. First they up their GPU to 853mhz and now theirZCPU to 1.75, all the meanwhile what are you doing? just sitting on your @ss? Come on Sony you're slipping. And i know the Sony fanboys are gonna go all disagree on my @ss, but i just want a better product. This makes it look like MS is trying alot harder, while Son y just sits on their butt, being all complacent with what they got. Screw that, make it better
abzdine  +   392d ago
"Xbox One now in full production with improved CPU performance"

of course! better luck next time
KazHiraiFTW  +   392d ago
Now witness a price increase to $549.99
BlueBlood17  +   392d ago
Jaguar chips are built with an optimum clock speed of between aroun 2-2.2 GHz... The PS4 FCC documentation stated that some cores can go up to 2.75 GHz if absolutely needed! I expect this to be used intelligently, with certain core speeds increasing when others aren't being used. :)
dantesparda  +   392d ago
Why are people disagreeing with making it better?! Fanboys are retards!
nypifisel  +   392d ago
I take it you're being sarcastic? 150mhz really won't show at all. And before anyone starts throwing shit around I take it you OC as much as I do, but if you did you wouldn't disagree with me. The end!
dantesparda  +   392d ago
Screw that, i want the PS4 to have at least a 2ghz CPU and i wish its GPU was 850mhz or more.
Heck I wish it had the other 2 missing CU's (to bring it to 20 CU's). Im not trying to diss the systeem or Sony, i just want the system to be better.

I mean seriously the systems arent even out yet and they are already struggling to do 1080/60fps. So more powerful the better. At least MS is pushing to make their system better than initially announced. What the hell is Sony doing? Just being happy and satisfied with their specs while MS keeps upping theirs?

Over at DigitalFoundry they are already claiming that the X1 CPU is more powerful than the PS4's, they think its got a 30GB bus from CPU to the DDR3 RAM, while they think that the PS4 only has 20GB bus, and the CPU is already running at 1.75ghz vs 1.6ghz and with the X1's sound processor it's further taking a strain of the CPU, while the PS4 just has mp3 decompressors for sound. I want the PS4 to be alot better than the X1, not just a little bit better. So stop disagreeing with me just because you's think im dissing Sony. Im trying to push them
aceitman  +   393d ago
well it went from 1.6 ghz to 1.75 which the spec sheet said 1.6 - 2 ghz so that's expected at least we know its locked at 1.75 ghz . http://i.imgur.com/Z4CvNT1....
black0o  +   393d ago
they gotta do what ever minimizes that GAPE
starchild  +   393d ago | Funny
I think you have been watching too much porn. Don't you mean 'gap'?
k2d  +   392d ago
Of all the contexts in the English language you bring up porn. That says more about you than him ;)
KazHiraiFTW  +   392d ago
M$'s butthole has been reamed so hard by Sony the last few months I don't think there is any chance of that GAPE getting any smaller.
kewlkat007  +   393d ago
Yes, your only able to do these overclocks without yield issues.

The xboxOne seems to be quite flexible and have had some room to gain a little here and there for overall system performance.

I hope it's one efficient box with that custom architecture. I'm excited for the Fantasy football app but I'm in ESPN and Yahoo leagues which won't be available till Next year...grrr
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dmeador  +   392d ago
Same, I was hoping ESPN would be available at launch. I'm thinking about gaming the system, and making a NFL.com team with my players, haha.
kewlkat007  +   392d ago
Hey I wonder if that is possible.
NextGen24Gamer  +   393d ago | Well said
•Custom Jaguar x86-64 cores at 1.75 GHZ, two clusters of 4 cores
•68 GB/sec peak bandwidth to off-chip 8GB DDR3 memory.
•204 GB/s peak bandwidth to 32MB of on-die storage.
•47MB of cache
•8G DDR3 and 8G FLASH
•Coherent Shared Memory
•Memory sharing & bandwidth (HSA HUMMA)
•DX11.1+ GPU @ 1.71 BILLION POLYGONS A SECOND ( This applies only to the core GPU )
•264GB/s total memory bandwidth
•GPU CONTAINS 15 co-processors ( seperate from the core GPU )
•500 GB HARD DRIVE ++
•Audio offload processor 15 GFLOPS

Xbox One CPU Schematic

Notice all the extra co processors aside from the core GPU. Its this core GPU TFLOPS figure used in comparison to PS4's GPU TFLOPS. It will be interesting as PS4 in its entirety only has 7 co processors. Xbox One has 15 on the GPU side alone.

Be interesting to see how this turns out. Microsoft did say dont always believe whats on paper. And that it may turn out that design is better than numbers. They look to have the design to back up their claim. Tey did pay AMD 1.2 billion more than Sony for their APU design. So sit there and think about that for a second. Why would MS pay AMD 1.2 BILLION dollars more than Sony for lesser APU Tech? Hmmmmm...Something not adding up??? The promise of 4k gaming by MS but not Sony....How can that be with Sony having the better announced specs on PAPER???? If you put the pieces of the puzzle together, it's right in front of your face!

So they upgraded both the CPU & the Core GPU clock speeds. They have upgraded and shown NEW internal tech (8gigs of flash & 15 co processors) that wasn't known when they first announced the Xbox One.

They have one last thing to announce in regards to the Apu/Dgpu. When they announce that, they will also announce the release date.

My guess is TGS....All the worlds gaming press will be there and it's on Sony's Turf!

Think about it, what has MS been waiting for? You have to know that they already know the release date, they are waiting to make an impact....
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Kuse  +   393d ago
I want to believe you man but getting Xbox to open up about anything seems to be moot, It just seems like a lot of speculation and rumors.

I'm buying an Xbox One Day 1, I just love the lineup of games and future games to boot.
iamnsuperman  +   393d ago
Did you really just put TGS at the end of your quote. TGS is the worst place to announce a release date because that market doesn't care. It is going to happen via a press release or Major Nelson's blog thing
NatureOfLogic  +   393d ago
"Microsoft did say dont always believe whats on paper."

And do you believe everything MS says? They said that because the facts are, they have inferior hardware compared to PS4.
black0o  +   393d ago
TGS .. lol
u know that (T)okyo (G)ame (S)how .. as Tokyo in japan
Bzone24  +   393d ago
@iamnsuperman

You do realize that whether or not that market cares or not, that word will get out if it's announced there. You are acting as if a ship will have to be sailed to deliver the news to the rest of the world from there.
HammadTheBeast  +   393d ago
Lol.

You have absolutely ZERO knowledge of what you just wrote.

Please stop just copy pasting PR.
thekhurg  +   393d ago
LMAO

Trollololololol.
Eonjay  +   393d ago
Nice specs but PS4 still wins. Microsoft is claiming 1.31 TFlops worth of graphics power. They would NOT claim less than what it is. Sony is claiming 1.84TFlops worth of graphics power.

Thats 500GFlops more. That will matter. It is what it is.
Clarence  +   393d ago
Stop it.
Indo  +   393d ago
4k gaming requires alot of power and a nice cooling system to even keep a stable 30fps on a PC. And seeing how the XBOX One is stacked, it be really hard to see 4k gaming hsppen on the $499 box.
DoesUs  +   393d ago
LOL @Elite....a small increase in clocks, but it's still inferior. They are trying the only thing they can to get that gap down. And some of that other stuff you listed ...er, no! But your love for MS is well documented so you'll cling onto them for dear life. In the real world things are much different though.
windblowsagain  +   393d ago
Does not have 204 gb's/

102 gb/s

You can't just add bandwidth together,lol.

264 gb/s rofl. Don't be silly
BallsEye  +   392d ago
@HammadTheBeast

Look who's talking. The sony technician, always posting about tflops and other crap. So what's your computer science degree?

@windblowsagain

Watch Hot Chips before you post your "opinion". I'm pretty sure MS techs taking the stage there know better than a random n4g kid.
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LordDhampire  +   392d ago
can anyone link me this 8Gig flash memory everyone is talking about, I haven't seen anything for it
EVILDEAD360  +   392d ago
Wow @ Elite. Did not know MS paid that much more for the design.

Guess I have been out of the loop.

It will be interesting if there is something more to it.

I just find it odd that it feels like some people on here and elsewhere seem to feel this way this late in the game.

Microsoft's approach at TGS will be interesting regardless.

The announcement date for the console is today though.

Evil
Computersaysno  +   392d ago
I don't understand why there are still questions marks or people saying Xbone is as fast as ps4 or its close. PS4 gaming hardware is just faster. End of story. Anyone that says otherwise is a liar and knows nothing about technology.
Death  +   392d ago
The reason people still disagree the Xbox is as fast or faster is because neither console has been released and Microsoft hasn't fully released specs.
Computersaysno  +   392d ago
We know plenty enough of these consoles there is no mystery whatsoever to anyone slightly technically informed PS4 is going to walk all over Xbone in terms of game performance as soon as the programmers get a grip on it after its first year.

Anyone that keeps denying it has their head in the dirt. Xbone is a media box with an considerably inferior GPU and inferior memory access. Microsoft wasted hundreds of millions of transistors on trying to structure the memory buses to compensate for slow DDR3 memory, and millions more on video and audio DSPs to make their multimedia functions work properly at the great expense of the machines GPU performance.

Its going to be destroyed on multiplatform games by PS4's proper, games focused custom hardware, there should be no doubt, there is no question, there is no ambiguity.

Bookmark this comment and you'll see soon enough why I am confident about that and wonder why you even doubted it.

http://semiaccurate.com/201... and i'll quote for you:

"......you have a clean kill for Sony on performance.

Microsoft made a really impressive SoC that is a multimedia monster with a bit of gaming ability, technically speaking it is quite impressive that they pulled it off. Not to take anything away from the hardware designers but Microsoft management simply aimed wrong. Sony made a gaming machine, Microsoft did not. Sony made a clean design for coders, Microsoft did not. Microsoft made a complex technical masterpiece that is in a no-mans land between a <$100 Android media center and the PS4. Sony just did right for gamers and won the battle."
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sync90  +   392d ago
What aload of nonsense! Keep trying, you sound as bad as MS.
imt558  +   392d ago
So, CPU speed goes up for 9% from 1.6 to 1.75 Ghz
or 150 Mhz. A minor upclock or from 102 GFlops to 112 GFlops.

1.31 TF GPU + 0.112 CPU = 1.42 for XO.

1.84 TF GPU + 0.102 CPU = 1.94 for PS4
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imdaboss1   393d ago | Trolling | show | Replies(4)
mark134uk  +   393d ago
with all this pushing i predict a average xb1 lasting 1 year before it dies

sony doesnt need to play catch up there already leading
iMixMasTer872   393d ago | Spam
pedrof93  +   392d ago
Ps4 cpu is rumored to be 2 ghz while Dev kit is confirmed 2.75ghz
sak500  +   392d ago
talk out of your mouth not your @ss.
dmeador  +   392d ago
Source?
Death  +   392d ago
I'm pretty sure his source is N4G...
pedrof93  +   392d ago
Just google it ???
DarkAzureIIIX  +   392d ago
The FCC said that they are Identical so both are 2.75ghz

http://www.engadget.com/gal...
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pedrof93  +   392d ago
Your saying that Ps4 cpu speed is 2.75 ghz ?

That's not possible.
Mithan  +   392d ago
Yes but it doesn't really make a difference. The PS4 and Xbox One are virtually identical performance wise as will become obvious next year as games come out.

The only people making an issue out of it are the retards on the internet that are technomorons and don't realize that the games are going to be the same.

Look at the current generation? The PS3 was stronger than the 360 on paper and it made zero difference. In fact, most games looked better on the 360 due to ease of programming.

People should just purchase the system they want and forget about it.
hardcorehippiez  +   392d ago
and bingo your straight on point ease of programming. this time sony has extra power along with ease of programming which is making for the more capable console for gaming .
esemce  +   392d ago
PS3 had a better CPU whilst XB360 had a better GPU so they turned out to be quite equal.

The PS3 shone with it's exclusive studios.
donman1  +   392d ago
And still looks like a large 80s VCR, still under powered when compared to the smaller sleeker PS4 and cost $100 more. Nothing to get excited about here.
kingxtreme81  +   393d ago
Great news.

Hopefully they'll cough up the release date soon.
nick309  +   393d ago
Typical ms made the console huge to slim it down on the way to next gen. Im getting ps4&X1 but this is just ridiculous... I wonder how sony will change ps4 on its way to next gen, i dont see how you can slim that.
kewlkat007  +   393d ago
I don't see either..but knowing Sony they could surprise us.
TheBurger29  +   393d ago
maybe just an outside redesign but staying at around the same size
slimeybrainboy  +   393d ago
What do you mean slim it down? Did they make the XB1 smaller? Or do you just mean the next model?
GodGinrai  +   393d ago
I think he means an 'S' model in a few years time.
BallsEye  +   392d ago
Are you serious??? First Ps3 Was fkin huge.
http://www.gry4ever.pl/wp-c...

http://fakehustle.files.wor...

http://tctechcrunch2011.fil...

Obvious troll
nick309  +   392d ago
Im talking bout this upcoming gen. Im getting X1& ps4 so... Well i own a 360& a ps3 so im not trolling
Death  +   392d ago
The first PS3 also had a lot more inside the plastic shell. It was much easier to make it smaller as they removed features and hardware to make it more profitable.
BallsEye  +   392d ago
@nick309

"Typical ms made the console huge to slim it down on the way to next gen."

Means you said it's common for MS to do that. That's my point. xbox 360 was way smaller than ps3. I guess now the table turned. Let's pray for no overheating issues ( lot of it reported on e3 hands on, google)from ps4 with this much power in such a tiny box.
aceitman  +   393d ago
anyone hear what the ps4 is locked at.
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black0o  +   393d ago
no official on that .. but the leaked doc says 1.6 Ghz same as the x1
mwjw696  +   393d ago
used to be the same as X1 you mean...
black0o  +   393d ago
no some leak doc even said 2.0 GHz
nosferatuzodd  +   392d ago
Keep dreaming ps4 is at 2.75 bro
Foxgod  +   393d ago
Another welcome boost, now if the dgpu rumors are true, then the competition will melt.
duli14  +   393d ago | Funny
If not the Xbox One will melt, like the 360 did when RROD happened
Foxgod  +   393d ago
The 360 didnt melt tho, the hear caused the circuitry on the mobo to break, due to the xclamp pulling the mobo in a slight curve.
KwietStorm  +   393d ago
What does that even mean, the competition will melt?
iamnsuperman  +   393d ago
because the other is still hottest on the market

boom flipped that on its head

Just kidding. I have no idea what Foxgod is rambling on about
majiebeast  +   393d ago
Clockspeed didnt matter according to you awhile back now all of a sudden its gonna melt the competition. So what is it doesnt matter or gonna melt competition?
Nekroo91  +   393d ago
you really wanna talk about rumors?! because if they were true ps4 is using a 2.0ghz cpu
Nekroo91  +   393d ago
oh wait wait lets go to facts

http://www.engadget.com/201...

So FFC approval says that the ps4 cpu as a max frequency of 2.75ghz so it sould be a 2.0ghz instead of 1.75ghz on the xbox.

then the competition will melt ...yes indeed
Convas  +   393d ago | Well said
That is NOT the PS4's CPU frequency sir, that is the base clock for the GDDR5 and because GDDR5 can read and write at the same time, it is doubled to GDDR5-5500. Sony would be stark raving mad to overclock a 1.6-2.0GHz CPU to 2.75GHz in that box. A 75-100%+ overclock would destroy every PS4 within days of launch.

There, education. Be disillusioned no more.
FrigidDARKNESS  +   393d ago
The ps4 iso already being plagued with heat issueps it would be dangerous for Sony to upclock to 2.0ghz in a small thin case with small fans.
4Sh0w  +   393d ago
Frigid where are you get these heat issues for ps4? Yes Convas is correct but lets not make things up on top of that.
BallsEye  +   392d ago
@4Sh0w

E3 ps4 demos were freezing to the point they had to stop black flag. Similar problem was with bungie Destiny. Bungie even said they had people in back stage playing it in the same time just in case the stage demo freezes. Another problem was with Defiance and Black Light. It could be demo versions having problems ofcourse but if so many playable games have this problem, we can be worried. I can only imagine what would happen if it would be MS having this issue.

Watch this vid.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

It must be magic if they will be able to put that powerful machine in such tiny box and running at 100% without any heat issues.
ziggurcat  +   392d ago
@ BallsEye:

it's easily forgotten that the BF4 xbone demo at E3 completely crashed, and they had to switch to PC. they also still have not shown BF4 on xbone hardware - even at PAX as it was demoed on PC with xbone controllers.

and the issues with black flag at E3 had nothing to do with the hardware, and more to do with the stage of the game's development.
sak500  +   392d ago
The meltdown already began when MS showcased the games / online features / new kinnect camera and ps4 was just showing couple of arcade games and games for ps3 and vita.
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Lukas_Japonicus  +   393d ago
Nice, boosts in performance are always welcome, will help in the long run.
theWB27  +   393d ago
Mass production....record shipment rates.
All I need to hear.
SuperLupe  +   393d ago
Yeah but funnily enough there arent 20 articles pending with that news. When its Sony its front page in no time.

I like the way they're just working in silence, no boasting, no excessive hardware chit chatter or anything. Just letting the games do the talking.
joefrost00  +   393d ago
You talking about sony or MS
Cause sony games aint saying much compared to MS
kenmid  +   393d ago
Cool, any specs boost is a good thing, I just wish both of the console will come out already.
And I wanna say hello to all the Sony Fanboys in the room.
Sitdown  +   393d ago
Lies, lies....it has not passed through FCC, they are not allowed to mass produce. ;-) Besides, he works for Microsoft, of course he would say these things. :-P
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IanVanCheese  +   393d ago
Not everyone saw the wink at the end of your comment it seems lol.
Sitdown  +   393d ago
Haha, I know.....so many people on edge.
glennco  +   393d ago
it is because people here are over it, joking or not, every single article is full of pointless comments sounding like the crap you wrote.

There is no xbox discussion here, just weeding through the troll comments to find one or two xbox comments on topic.

Just go away if you are not going to add to the conversation, we have enough children here with no intention of ever buying an xbox, that every xbox comment section is embarrassing. It seems like there are more PS fanboys on both xbox and PS articles than anyone else.
XboxFun  +   393d ago
@Sitdown

I agree, MS needs to provide another conference and provide FCC proof that it passed. Not to mention clear non PR talk about it's hUMA features. Also I want a document saying the Kinect won't provide critical spying information and upload it back to the NSA.

We also need to clear up how the RAM will be provided for the TV features that the Xbox One is ONLY providing. Then again with Xbox being split from MS and sold off to god-knows-who it will only mean Xbox is doomed and dead in the water.

Even still I won't believe anything that is said, wrote, advertised or shown. I mean this is MS we're talking about. They pay everyone in the whole industry to do their evil work.

I think I got everything Sitdown, please provide any feedback if I missed anything.

;)
kenmid  +   393d ago
Are you serious?
Regis  +   393d ago
You do prove a good point however Microsoft said they see no need to do a second conference
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XboxFun  +   393d ago
Wow, I guess people actually do miss the "wink" little symbol at the end of each comment.

So much for being a little bit out the box of not providing the "/s" tag which clearly my comment was.

And before I get more comments and pm's the /s means SARCASM.

Edit:
I just realized I missed the "-" nose part in my winky face. I apologize, I am new to this country and do not know the cultural customs for emoticons. Forgive me!
;-)
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dmeador  +   392d ago
The funny/sad thing is there is almost no way to tell if someone is being sarcastic, because that reads about exactly like a post you would see here, haha.

Oh, you missed the part about the X1 only being able to run Nintendo 64 games at 27 fps, so it doesn't matter what gimmicky kinect features (that about everyone will use) does. Now I think thats everything :)
LiViNgLeGaCY  +   392d ago
@XboxFun

Funny thing is, I knew it was sarcasm even without the winking face. People here are just fucking stupid.
josephayal  +   393d ago
More raw Power, but But ill probably buy a x1 a year or two from now but I like what PS4 is going
Belking  +   393d ago
xb1 has a powerful customized cpu.
Convas  +   393d ago
But, what about the FCC gaiz?! This is illegal! MS could get into serious legal TROUBLES!!!!

As usual. Much ado about NOTHING.

Edit: I am aware of Microsoft's FCC pass for the Xbox One, this is a response to the article and sudden uptick in interest for the Xbox One's FCC pass.
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Regis  +   393d ago
They have already passed FCC Regulations and Procedures

Then for that I apologize and will try to foresee what you are saying next time
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Kuse  +   393d ago
Oh man this is awesome sauce! Good stuff! Day One Xbox One right here!
rydamgw   393d ago | Trolling | show | Replies(2)
corvusmd  +   393d ago
Sweet, one step closer to XB1 launch
buynit  +   393d ago
What does the improvment improve?
shivvy24  +   393d ago
A greater chance of rrod
buynit  +   392d ago
You sony fanatics are out of control...
shivvy24  +   388d ago
hey just joking , lol i forgot to put jks up on the comment
Yo Mama   393d ago | Trolling | show | Replies(1)
FrigidDARKNESS  +   393d ago
Cant wait to see the final versions of the launch day titles.
DoesUs  +   393d ago
Yep, the differences are going to be groundbreaking! I'm expecting double the performance of what we have now, and at 4k. That hidden DGPU ....those sly foxes at MS!
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pyramidshead  +   393d ago
Hopefully they'll get DR3 to finally run at a smooth 30fps or at least close to that. Good news indeed.
Convas  +   393d ago
Check out the PAX Prime gameplay on Youtube. It's almost a world of difference from GamesCom and E3.
deanobi  +   393d ago
Xbox One > PS4 (in terms of hardware it seems now)
Nekroo91  +   393d ago
you dont know alot about hardware i see.....
Deadpoolio  +   393d ago
Someone obviously doesn't know about hardware and just parrots what other mental midgets say about hardware...Sorry but my 2 degrees in computers tell me they still have weaker hardware
THC CELL  +   392d ago
You and your 16 other accounts need to do some home work fast.
Haules  +   393d ago
Yeah great! people still believe what MS say lol!

http://youtu.be/CetEqXgO6_o
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CrossingEden  +   392d ago
And apparently you listen to one month old videos. -_-
Mithan  +   393d ago
God you morons are so fucking stupid, there is virtually no difference between the platforms.
Pascalini  +   393d ago
Xbox one seems to be winning the console war at the minute
Yo Mama  +   393d ago
Hahahaha. Oh man. Thanks. I needed that.
Deadpoolio  +   393d ago
That is a good one LMAO...I really needed a laugh
THC CELL   392d ago | Immature | show
iamnsuperman  +   393d ago
I think the most important part of this article is being missed. It is in full production now which means we should be getting a release date shortly.
jessupj  +   393d ago
This is true.

That is of course, if you believe what MS. I've lost count of the amount of lies Major Nelson has spewed.

But if it is true that's very good news for future X1 owners. I was getting worried MS might have to delay even further.
christocolus  +   393d ago
now im getting the feeling ms had this all planned out from the beginning...im also guessing besides the cpu speed they may have done more tinkering with the hardware than they are actually letting us know...... ms u are such a tease....i love u..lmao
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MRMagoo123  +   393d ago
You guys really are setting your self up for disappointment lol.
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SprigganN4G  +   393d ago
http://www.newegg.com/Produ...

200 dollars, FOR THE CONSUMER, not a gigant corporation, 3.3TF.

Something is wrong with consoles...
Spoons  +   393d ago
200 dollars for graphics card.

Plus mother board

Harddrive

Casing

Moniter

Mouse

Keyboard

Everything else I am forgetting.

=Way more then a console and will not last to 7-8 years and play great games.
famoussasjohn  +   392d ago
How else do you expect to use that graphics card? You need the rest of the PC either that you have already built or already own. Either way, you would splurge more than $500, at least double considering the graphics card ate up almost half of the cost..

I'm a PC gamer that has both the PS3 and Xbox 360. The console vs pc argument is moot when it comes to price.
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