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Submitted by allformats 893d ago | news

Xbox One 'hasn't been rushed' to market, says Major Nelson

CVG: Despite acknowledging a number of "challenges" in the run-up to this November's Xbox One launch, Xbox Live director of programming Larry 'Major Nelson' Hyrb insists the console hasn't been rushed to market. (Xbox One)

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allformats  +   893d ago | Well said
Who are they kidding? Sony caught Microsoft off guard when they announced PS4 in February, and ever since they've been playing catch up, rushing everything and destroying the Xbox One in the process.

They should release Xbox One in late December or next year.

If not, I predict another RROD fiasco.
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Septic  +   893d ago | Well said
Sony might have put pressure on Microsoft with the strength of their announcements but off-guard? I don't think so.

"rushing everything and destroying their console in the process."

What? You're just making up nonsense now. Please provide evidence for your claims of the console being rushed or destroyed?

"They should release Xbox One in late December or next year.

If not, I predict another RROD fiasco"

Pure sensationalist garble.

**At Gamescom, every game in the Xbox booth was running on final Xbox One hardware. Every. Single. One. That would paint a very different take on the being 'rushed.**

That's good to know. Phil Spencer and Major Nelson have Xbox Ones in their homes right now. The only thing we haven't seen from both companies is an in-depth walk through of the UI's on both systems. That seems to be an area where I sense there is a lot of work to be done.
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aiBreeze  +   893d ago
The fact it's going to be released in so few countries plus only 6 countries or so will have voice support. Not sure about the number of countries that get live TV but I imagine it's fairly low too. All of this points to be a somewhat rushed launch. I wouldn't go as far as saying they were caught offguard by the ps4 announcement but seeing how few countries benefit from a lot of the touted features at the Xbox One reveal show, it's obvious they didn't have as much time to plan as they'd have wanted.
Septic  +   893d ago

Fair points but really, these are the kind of hiccups you expect at the launch of a new console.

Case in point, the PS3 launch was delayed from November to March.

I don't think they're being rushed into the market by Sony. They're feeling the pressure yeah but that's inevitable considering the stage we are at.
TheTwelve  +   893d ago

You said "Case in point, the PS3 launch was delayed from November to March."

Yes, and I believe Microsoft forced Sony to push the PS3 out faster than they wished as well.

Major Nelson is SUPPOSED to say that the X1 hasn't been rushed out. I prefer looking at evidence for truth rather than the words of spokesmen.
Kayant  +   893d ago

AS far as we know Tv functionality is only available in the US at launch

Thehyph  +   893d ago
I agree. Thank you, Septic, for staying logical. Your posts aren't trash like the many.

I would say that Microsoft is rushing right now, but I wouldn't say that the end result will be rushed.

Sony is in the same boat. Every department under the PlayStation brand should be putting in overtime right now. Marketing and advertising, firmware and software, everything related to hardware production, etc.

A company working its arse off, with a clear deadline in sight, does not mean the end product will be "rushed."

There really is waaayyy too much sensationalism going on about these things.
Killjoy3000  +   893d ago
Septic, you're denying some pretty believable scenarios. Anything can happen to the hardware on both sides. It's the fact that you're so quick to dismiss these claims that bothers me.
abzdine  +   893d ago
like they will say they rushed just like they never rushed 360!
PR BS at its best
Septic  +   893d ago

What believable scenarios? I'm not dismissing anything. We can only make an assessment from what we are being told and what we know.

Yes there are a few hiccups, but that doesn't necessarily make it a fact that the console is being rushed. People are so quick to jump the gun. You shouldn't be bothered with my assessment of the situation.

"You're so quick to dismiss these claims"

What about allformats who thinks that MS are "destroying their console in the process" and are predicting "another RROD fiasco"? Any my assessment bothers you?
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Picnic  +   893d ago
There is plenty of precedent to have concerns about the hardware quality though.
Microsoft later sent buyers of the original Xbox, including myself, a power button because otherwise it was identified that the console could catch fire after so long. Every time I put the power cable in the Xbox it crackled with electricity- that's not a healthy sound.
ZodTheRipper  +   893d ago
Hey, that would be their first time lyin ...oh wait, the first time this week. Oh well the FIFA preorder story ..the first time today!!
wannabe gamer  +   893d ago
**At Gamescom, every game in the Xbox booth was running on final Xbox One hardware. Every. Single. One. That would paint a very different take on the being 'rushed.**

BLATANT LIE. if this were true then BF4 wouldnt have been running on a win8 PC hidden below a desk cabinet out of view. they were trying to hide the fact that the Xbone demo for bf4 wasnt running on a xbox one at all and now they are lieing about it flatout
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ginsunuva  +   893d ago
Bf4 at the xbox booth was pc's
gaffyh  +   893d ago
@Septic - I don't agree with most of what allformats said, but what I do think is true is that MS were at the very least pressured, because they delayed their initial reveal by a month. It was supposed to be in April, but it was delayed till May, and I honestly believe that was because Sony showed a lot more than MS expected, and they thought they could 1up them by producing a console shell to show off.

It didn't work...
iamnsuperman  +   893d ago
I think they were caught off guard. I think Microsoft were going for an early 2014 launch. I think they saw Sony's line up this year for the PS3 and thought it would be crazy of them to launch. Everything points to an early launch next year when you count in the limited amount of regions that are getting it in 2013. I think in February things went into overdrive because they miss judged Sony. I would have done the same. I was expecting a late 2014 early 2015 PS4 launch looking at the PS3's line up this year
kenshiro100  +   893d ago
Sorry but you can't deny that Microsoft tripped over their feet during their conference and E3.

@ tordavis, Gakai is a service. That doesn't indicate that the PS4 was rushed...
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tordavis  +   893d ago
@aibreeze and the fact that Gaikai won't be ready until 2014 doesn't look like PS4 was rushed to market?

sourav93  +   893d ago
But Septic, wasn't Bf4 running on PCs at the Xbox booth during PAX?
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UnHoly_One  +   892d ago
Septic the number of disagrees you have is a depressing reminder of how fanatical the fanboys on this site are.

The only person I see speaking sense and being unbiased, and you have a 4 to 1 ratio of disagrees to agrees.

All because you aren't spouting Sony propaganda or spelling out Doom and Gloom for Microsoft.

I wish there were more people like you on this website.
hazardman  +   892d ago
You know these sony droids have their minds made up already. XBone will be fine!
redwin  +   892d ago
They are going tho try and spin this positive into a negative. MS has some chases to do and that's because they are changing everything to what we want. If so and it comes out later then do be it. I commend Microsoft for taking their time and doing changes to please their customers. One of the things that I like about Xbox is that they don't play it safe and always tries to advance the video concept. Thank you MS, for trying to avoid another RROD and not rushing out a broken system.
Sono421  +   892d ago
@ Spetic

You keep calling these "hiccups" but that really isn't the right word for them at all. The Xbox One not having TV functionality in any countries at launch besides the US is much more than a hiccup when thats its flagship feature! They should have started trying to figure it out on day one! It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that it would be difficult to get it to work in all countries.. that should have been their main focus and should have had it figured out by now.

Also not saying there are any problems with the hardware but saying the games were running on Xbox One's doesn't mean anything.. before the 360 launched there were games being showcased on 360's and yet look at all the problems that had..
N4Flamers  +   892d ago
I would say it was a bit rushed because a lot of the features you hear about are not available at launch (i.e. external drive support) Even some of the features they had before the 180 were not available at launch (i.e. family share plan) I believe the overwhelming negative press that caused them to 180 has thrown them off their game.

What if it wasnt so simple to change everything about the xbox one and they're scrambling to get things right. I think they should take some time out to rethink their strategy and come out with something clear and concise. As it stands the console seems thrown together because of all the changes (i.e. over clock) It screams caution from a consumer point of view.
nukeitall  +   892d ago

"The Xbox One not having TV functionality in any countries at launch besides the US is much more than a hiccup when thats its flagship feature!"

You mean compared to PS4 launching in a bunch a countries, but completely lacking AAA games and only showing indie games?

Isn't playing games *THE ONLY* feature of PS4?
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Consoldtobots  +   892d ago
I think this is proof positive that you have to be BRAIN DEAD to work for MS.

let me explain something to you Larry, I would stick with the "got caught off guard" angle

to imply that you were not and this is what you have to offer actually makes your co. look completely incompetent.
Outside_ofthe_Box  +   892d ago

***"You mean compared to PS4 launching in a bunch a countries, but completely lacking AAA games and only showing indie games?"***

Interesting seeing you complain about the lack of exclusives for the PS4 considering that when that complaint is lobbied at the 360 your response is "Exclusives don't matter! Just because a game is exclusive doesn't mean it's good! When I play a game I don't think about whether it's exclusive or not, I just play it if I enjoy it!"

I bet you'll say some gibberish like exclusives only matter in the beginning of the life cycle and has no meaning towards the end of the life cycle due backlog, but that's just some "fangirl" nonsense to justify when exclusives matter so it suits your "arguments" conveniently.

Complaining about lack of exclusives for the PS4 is pretty foolish any when you consider that Sony has confirmed that all of their studios are making games for the PS4. Sony isn't going to do what they did last gen revealing games that are 3+ years from being finished especially when that was a major complaint many gamers had with the PS3.

If you look at *lunch lineups* strictly XB1 only has one more exclusive than the PS4 when you include Killer Instinct. The rest of XB1's revealed games aren't coming until either next year in 2014 or 2015+. MS revealed a lot of their lineup for the next 1-2 years while Sony hasn't is what all of this "lack of AAA exclusives for the PS4" boils down to.

***"Isn't playing games *THE ONLY* feature of PS4?"***

PS4 has plenty of features outside of playing games it's just that Sony is marketing the PS4 as a gaming machine this time around hence why they aren't putting emphasis on those features.

I would make an attempt to list them, but that will be wasted time in my part knowing that you are biased against the system anyway. You'll mostly just down play them saying things like "360 could already do it", "the XB1 can do that too", "I don't see the thrill in being able to do that", "I don't care for such feature", "That feature is useless because you have to purchase another device", "That feature is impractical and most likely won't work when it's actually put in place", etc.

Just remember, for every feature or game you either don't like or don't care for regarding the PS4, there is some just like you saying the same thing about the XB1. Point being everyone has different opinions.
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LordDhampire  +   892d ago
They had to come out with damage control that it wasn't rushed, thats enough evidence to me that it was I didn't even really think about it til now.....Major Nelson has really just been pissing me off lately I know he works for Microsoft but he's just saying what ever they tell him....

They had mostly redeemed themselves from the original xbox one reveal at this point they need to sit back and stop talking and feeding all this bull.....

They are the best player on sonys team
Gozer  +   892d ago
Septic I commend you for speaking simple logic. If the mob had their way we would be playing Pong and just agreeing with ourselves. Sony has managed to raise more idiots than even themselves are suprised about. They are like a girlfriend that gave you sex and you left for being too old fashioned, then you got ahold of a wild chick and got scared, and decided to stay with good old fashioned poontang. They are scared of everything except that old stuff.

I want a fucking holodeck, you pansies need to get some mothers milk and grow some stones.
andrewsqual  +   892d ago
I agree. I mean they had 3 perfectly long months to properly plan a cohesive conference that would have destroyed Sony's and yet did......that. Well we all know what the reaction was to the worse console reveal in history and since then it was mishap after mishap. And all done to themselves, nothing to do with Sony.
DragonKnight  +   892d ago
This just in, Major Nelson spouts of PR answers, surprises no one.

Did anyone actually expect he would say otherwise? People like Major Nelson are hired to deny the truth publicly. They are professional hype men and it's against their job description to even drop a hint of negativity towards their product. These people exist in all companies, though some have them a lot more pronounced than others.

Some things don't require an exec to come out and spell it out for everyone. It can be seen in policies as plain as day.
No_Limit  +   893d ago
"They should release Xbox One in late December or next year. If not, I predict another RROD fiasco."

LOL, what a hater and first to post his own submission, as always. smh
gaelic_laoch  +   893d ago
No_Limit are you 100% confident that the xbone is 100% fit for market? And would you stand by your convictions if it does become a fiasco?
malokevi  +   893d ago
expected 6.7 MILLION units shipped by years end. The only people who think it's "rushed" and "should be delayed" are the people begging for the console to fail.

Which is why so many people on N4G say so.
DatRealBoy  +   892d ago

guess how much for ps4 lol 16 million
malokevi  +   892d ago
Actually its 10 million... ahahaha.

16 million. Where do you come up with this crap?
dmeador  +   892d ago

These are the types of comments that shows how many people view things as black and white. Who cares if he is "100%"? Its not an all or nothing thing. There are things about both systems that aren't perfect, he doesn't have to stake his life that they will be.

16 million huh? I guess they wont have to worry about shortages then. Care to source that?
Deadpoolio  +   892d ago
Yeah they are just so ready, just like they were with the 360 cause that didn't have a 55% failure rate or anything...And YES it was 55% for 4 years...

You people are just to stupid to notice the warning signs like;

1. Announce that it will launch in 21 countries, later slash it to 13 siting kinect localization.
2. Later announce that only 5 countries will have fully functioning kinect....
3. Supposedly they have their FCC cert, and have been in production longer than Sony, yet keep using Windows 7 PCs with Nvidia cards, claiming it's One80 hardware, ya know the Windows 8 with AMD chips.
4.Claim initial launch shipment will be 7 million, 1-2 weeks later slashed to 6..

They are 1 of 2 things. 1-they were caught off gaurd assuming that Sony wouldn't launch till 2014, because unlike MS Sony doesn't drop support for their old console when they start working on the new console.
2. MS are having hardware failure issues which have already been rumored between the eSRAM frying the GPU, The Kinect chips frying themselves or the Blu ray drive crapping out...

Everything at MS is not unicorns and rainbows, but they will continue to lie about it just like how they lied about the RROD issue claiming they knew nothing about the defective hardware, only telling the truth once that truth was uncovered by various sources....
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Halochampian  +   892d ago
It seems that most people on this site do not know anything about the RRoD and how it was caused. The reasoning behind the RRoD was because of regulations changing away from the use of lead-based soldering. Being one of the first electronics out to use this new type of solder caused the failures that were shown with the original 360.

MS lost a lot of money because of RRoD. They are the last ones who would make the same mistake twice. In fact, looking at the One, it looks to very well put together in terms of heat dissipation.

As for Xbox One being rushed. I wouldn't say rushed. They are probably a little in a bind having to re-engineer some of the features that they had planned. But I wouldn't call it rushed.

The delay in some countries could point to being rushed or it could be the Voice recognition in those Countries. Or they just want to focus on the major markets (in terms of their sales).
jaren92  +   893d ago
That was never the case back in June of 2012 there were documents leaked talking about the Xbox one at the time code named Durango in the documents it states that the console would release around holiday season 2013 no Sony did not catch them off guard their initial plan was to always launch around this Time
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No_Limit  +   893d ago
jaren, don't waste your time arguing over anything on N4G as it won't matter. The haters are too rapid here. As long as you know the truth and enjoy your console in November, just pretend this site is a tabloid site and get your daily dose of entertainment from it. That is what I am helps me get through the day. :)
THC CELL  +   893d ago
Leaks are not always valid sadly they could be made up by anyone.
n4rc  +   893d ago
Having to abandon the original path has lead to a lot of software changes that must be worked out...

If the hardware wasn't ready.. Then maybe there would be some validity in the rushed claim... That's my opinion...

And I'm curious... For those in countries not getting kinect support.. Do similar services like siri and Google now work for you? I'm honestly curious
ravinash  +   893d ago
I don't think MS were caught of guard with Sonys announcement. The big problem was the unexpected backlash resulting from the DRM fiasco.
Massive changes to the basic policies of how any system functions will take time to change and they have basically had to make up the new policies on the fly.
That’s why the system is so confused at the moment or at the very least unclear on what they want to achieve.
Thehyph  +   893d ago
@n4rc I certainly hope so. Google Now is the standard in my book for voice recognition. I hope it's available in every language. It's so much faster and more accurate than S Voice and Siri.

While I am off topic: Google Now is THE killer app for Android right now. In my book, anyway. I don't just mean the voice search, either.
n4rc  +   893d ago

I can't help but think how impossibly hard it would be to code such a service.. Accents are so varied etc..

So I was curious if other systems worked in Australia etc.. And not just for the most English speaking non-accented people lol
Consoldtobots  +   892d ago
you do realize how bad your statement makes MS look if true, right?
mania568  +   893d ago
They didnt caught them off guard they just made it sooner known to the public, now if the console is ready well... who knows, if they are only able to release to 13 places then the production isnt keeping up with demand.

i just hope for microsoft that they really do not rush the console out as they did with 360, the red ring of death was a pain to deal with
moparful99  +   892d ago
"who knows, if they are only able to release to 13 places then the production isnt keeping up with demand."

If they are unable to match production with demand then that doesn't bode well for their production. They are behind Sony in terms of pre orders yet Sony is launching in more countries? Hmmm makes one think..
Andronix  +   893d ago
"You can't just flip a switch."
RiPPn  +   892d ago
lol came to post this same quote, everytime I see a headline about this douche bag it's the first thing I think of and know that everything he says is complete bullsh-t.
Irishguy95  +   893d ago
What a joke...

MS weren't expecting Ps4 to be released or revealed in 2014? Seriously? Use your head for once
Jury  +   893d ago
So much denial around. Signs point to ms being very unprepared and there is no way they'd be launching in November is Sony weren't.

Oh wait, major Nielsen said so, so that must be true... Forget all the evidence to the contrary.
miyamoto  +   893d ago
100% agree but that is just the tip of the ice berg. we aint seen nothin yet. its actually gonna get even worse than that. for xbox.
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thetruthx1  +   893d ago
Only people that want it to be rushed think it'll be rushed

The system is big and very ventilated. On top of that it has technology in it that prevents overheating

Inform yourself
Clarence  +   893d ago
Major Nelson also said they were using real xbox1s to play BF4. We all know how that turned out. Why is there no release date. This guy is full of $h!t.
Not only that the Xbox 1s games were all 360 games used to pad the xbox1s launch titles. This also explains why the Xbox 1 yield problems have not been figured out.

M$ was caught completely of guard.
Sci0n  +   892d ago
Xbox fans are so... man why aren't they outraged about this mans lies and microsofts proven lies that surfaced over the years. How can they defend such a company? The man is saying everything was demoed on xbox one consoles when everyone that was there who sampled BF4 couldn't see the console in clear site and seen the windows PC display and mouse cursor on the screen. Also really!? only 8 players on those huge maps and still it looked and played like crap. I really wish every xbot would wake up but there is a side of me that loves seeing them get burned since they turn a blind eye to all microsofts greedy scam type ways.
T2  +   892d ago
U got that right , most xbone launch titles are obvious 360 ports ... Meanwhile in true MS style, their " old " console is long forgotten
Shadonic  +   893d ago
prtty sure they had things set up so that they could change considering the speed at which they did change
BallsEye  +   893d ago
Shush Major Nelson. PS fanboys on N4G know better. They also are tech experts and know 20 different martial arts.
BOLO  +   892d ago
"We can't just flip a switch to turn of DRM, the console was built around it".

Larry "Major Nelson" Hyrb.
BallsEye  +   892d ago

And I'm sure it wasn't as easy as flipping the switch. Why? Because they had to change a lot of features of xbox one. Family sharing is one of them. THey had to change their vision of the product by turning off DRM so no it's not that easy, it just sounds easy. They've announced they're removing DRM from the system but doesn't mean the process to make it all work out wasn't much longer than that.
SilentNegotiator  +   892d ago
Well if their PR guy says so...

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StoutBEER  +   892d ago
Can't wait to pick one up in November. The new Xbox controller looks better than ever. :D
GiantEnemyCrab  +   892d ago
Feels and plays great too. They had fight sticks setup for KI but I was able to mess with the Dpad and I can confirm the controller has fixed all of its flaws.. Not a sign of something rushed.
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corvusmd  +   892d ago
You're clearly a fanboy. I love how you always shoot down things said by someone who is actually in the process of doing all these things just cause you don't want to believe it...but yet you clearly have no facts to support your opinion...just don't want to believe it. Take a step back dude, if you don't want an Xbox One, don't get'll be ok, you don't have to be so upset that you just try to trash talk them at every chance.
colonel179  +   892d ago
I don't know if it's being rushed to market, but according to MS, they have been making the console since 2010, while Sony started in 2008. 2 years and a little more seems like a very short time to develop a console.
Godmars290  +   892d ago
Honest question:

Exactly what kind of credibility does Nelson suppose to have?
Sarick  +   892d ago
Well, He told off Angry Joe when he commented that they could flip a Switch to turn off the 24 hour online DRM requirement.

Something like "how would you know are you a part of the development team?"


A little bit of deductive reasoning. >>

1. Nelson has all the inside info.
2. He's paid to say things that protect Microsoft's interest.

Shortly after that interview Microsoft announced a day one update and I think Nelson publicly apologized on twitter.

Credibility, I guess that depends on the fans of gaming and how they interpret interviews with PR spokesmen. Since their job is to protect the interest of the company they work with can we really expect 100% accurate responses?
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Godmars290  +   892d ago

All you're saying is that he has none. That is MS wanted him to sell a steaming pile, that not only would he sell it, but sell it with enthusiasm.
SonyWarrior  +   892d ago
lol at picture of the xbone still needing AA batteries...
YNWA96  +   892d ago
Ah now, if the girl needs batteries too, will you blame MS for that as well?
MazzingerZ  +   892d ago
Why I don't believe him?
He saying this is actually an statement the console is being rushed
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Mounce  +   892d ago
I've been saying the same thing for a long time allformats, however I get flocked and attacked by zealous xbox fanboys every single time and drown in disagrees where you somehow do not.

Some N4G articles are swarmed with xbox fanboys while other articles don't seem to have many at all, it's weird how that is.
Consoldtobots  +   892d ago
truthful articles are like kryptonite to fanboys.
Mounce  +   892d ago
Thomaticus  +   892d ago
I agree. MS doesn't need to rush to market. December is fine for a release. Customers just want things to go right on release day and every other day.
All gamers need to understand that competition between sony and Microsoft is what will create good deals and superior products and services for everyone.
GiantEnemyCrab  +   892d ago
Where is your proof that MS was caught off guard? You have none but whatever dots you connect in your head.

I've played the console and while I couldn't see the dashboard it didn't look or play rushed at all.
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Megaton  +   892d ago
"...says Major Nelson" is about as reliable as "...says Michael Pachter" these days. Major Switchflip either purposely lies, or he's kept woefully out of the loop with all things Xbox. Considering it's his job to expel PR for the brand, I'm going with the former.
JeffGUNZ  +   892d ago
You mean two professionals who get paid for doing what they do as oppose to a bunch of arm chair experts on Give me a break. Unless you work at MS in their gaming division then you don't know anything.
T2  +   892d ago
@jeffgunz - wow you would take pr spin over physical evidence ? Car salsmen must drool when you walk by ... Cutting the countries , the yield , the support , what more do u need? I bet you tv doesnt even work here in Canada at launch
MysticStrummer  +   892d ago
Xbox One 'hasn't been rushed' to market, says Major Nelson

I am not a crook, says Richard Nixon...

I did not have sexual relations with that woman, says Bill Clinton...
Godz Kastro  +   892d ago
Yeah because no one saw Sony desperation to go first. You guys are funny :/
BOLO  +   892d ago
In Russian Roulette, one must pull the trigger first as fast as possible on your opponent...Microsoft is the one bloody from the shot blast...Or possibly a self-inflicted wound.
Axe99  +   892d ago
I think they were caught off-guard, but not with timing (there are credible rumours of Microsoft doing foundry work relating to the XB1 chip in late 2012 - suggesting they were always looking at a late 2013 release) but with approach. They were betting on a media centre that did games, and on moving to a 100% "buying licenses" model. Both elements drew flack at the reveal, and they've been moving hard to adjust ever since, but it's not an easy thing to do. I suspect the hardware is rock-solid, as they've been working on it for a while. However, I suspect the OS and features are more in flux than Microsoft was originally planning at this stage (as they surely would not have been planning so many policy reversals!)
yeahokchief  +   892d ago
I think both of the consoles are rushed and i've decided to skip both.

I've got way too many Ps3 games.

These consoles aren't being released for us. They're being released so they can make better multiplatform titles for PC in my opinion.

Save your money. THey'll be cheaper and you'll still have plenty of PS3 to play...
GT67  +   892d ago
"X1 is not RUSHED to market"

they said that about 360 look what happen RROD fiasco.

we'll see 2 months later after released date.
would not bet on trusting MS
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pixelsword  +   892d ago

They weren't even going to launch this year and now they're talking about launching around the same time as the PS4?

Wait a year or three before picking one up; unless you like replacing your console every few years.
BG11579  +   892d ago
Is Major Nelson tying the Jedi mind trick?
"No the release has not been delayed in 7countries"
"We knew that the console pc was running at 853Mhr."
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yay111  +   892d ago
Microsoft was actualy about 2 months ahead, IF YOU WERE PAYING ATTENTION?
THC CELL  +   893d ago
It's going to be very hard to trust ms now
Shuyin  +   893d ago
It's gonna be hard to ever trust 'em again for those who did and were let down after the reveal.
Me, I never ever trusted MS to begin with. Trashy products.
I give probs to the 360 though. It was/is a good console. Especially for FPS games and multiplayer games in general.
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WeAreLegion  +   893d ago
The problem is...people are trusting them again. I've talked to the same brofest of Xbox 360 fans that were excited until the DRM crap. Now, they're getting a One. They don't care that they were treated like common criminals. They just care that it's coming out now. They also don't care that it's $100 more.

I'm an American. This is what I put up with, daily.
C0LLAT  +   893d ago
Not me... I'm switching to ps4. You've got to be mental to trust them. Some of my Xbox friends don't want to switch over because they will loose all their achievements. 110,000 gamerscore is a lot to loose. But screw it! is a false since of need. I mean who really looks at some random guys gamerscore and are like "holy shit! You are my role model"?!"&@$& ;"!!"!
miyamoto  +   893d ago
i know what you are saying but its not they are trusting ms again...itsjust that they 'know nothin'. or 'lack info'

but the core gamers 'do know'
WeAreLegion  +   893d ago
@miyamoto - Unfortunately, these are people who follow N4G as closely as you or me. It's not that Microsoft will be a bunch of corporate scumbags forever. Don't get me wrong. In fact, they could easily change their ways. They just don't seem too apologetic about what they tried to do. Instead, they changed their policies ONLY after they saw how low pre-orders were.

This industry deserves better than that.
dmeador  +   892d ago
@Legion I'm not sure what you define as "trust". What exactly am I trusting them with? People get so caught up in the console war, and have such a personal stake in it. Its a product. I can promise you that I know about as much as anyone when it comes to next gen, and I'm picking the X1 first. What honestly makes me laugh is the bashing (which is very predictable) I get for my opinion on what product I want to spend my money on.

You're an American, so I guess you dont go to any store where you have to pass the RFID security sensors, seeing as how they are treating everyone like common criminals.
Jack of Death  +   892d ago
@ WeAreLegion and anyone else just like this noob.... Just like I trusted Sony with my Credit card info and that got stolen because they didn't care to keep my info protected. People like you make me sick. You should be banned from any gaming site. You're not a gamer you're a sickness. I play games and don't work for Sony or MS in my free time.
moparful99  +   892d ago
@JackofDeath Even the Pentagon has been hacked meaning your personal information is not safe online with ANYONE especially a gaming console.. You took a personal risk using your bank/credit card online.. But instead of blame the people really responsible, yours for trusting your financial security online and the hackers for stealing the info, you aim your cross hairs straight at Sony.. If you don't have enough common sense to use pre paid cards and or PSN cards online then you have no right to complain... Even Live accounts have been stolen and the financial information compromised. Heck with Live its a giant aggravation trying to unlink your card from Live. I trust Sony a hell of a lot more than I a do Microsoft.
SirBradders  +   893d ago
Obviously means it has otherwise they wouldn't feel the need to make that statement.
DigitalRaptor  +   892d ago
Exactly. They've had to change a ton of things, based on negative feedback, as well as controlling the rest of the variables that go into a console launch. You can tell the way in which they've approach certain aspects of the console, and the decisions they've made in recent months.

From what we know, PS4's development began in 2008, and XB1's began in 2010. They weren't expecting Sony to be so ready and so transformed.

So many of the XB1's touted launch features aren't there and that also goes for games. Their policies are still flip-flopping and adding new things in based on what Sony are doing.

So many mixed messages from Xbox employees, vague answers, misinformation and outright lies, that show not even they could control such a rushed launch. The hardware was also being upgraded at the last minute. There have been reported manufacturing and yield issues leading to shortages.

If MS were ready and Xbox One wasn't rushed out, then its games wouldn't have needed to be taken from the 360 and used to pad out its launch lineup. Ryse (once a 360 Kinect game) wouldn't be a buggy, bland unimpressive mess. Killer Instinct (also was 360 game) would be a full retail title with 20 characters rather than a 8 character season pass. Dead Rising 3 (also was a 360 game), would be running at a steady frame rate on next gen hardware. Forza 5 (I really like the look of that game) would also be shipping complete and with features such as night racing and weather.

All signs point towards it. Will people can actually trust Microsoft again? the answer is clear. The same people are showing support to a company who's intentions for years was to screw them over in many ways, and that are still ripping them off by keeping a ridiculous number of free apps and features behind a paywall. Preventing developers from making games on their system due to offensively restrictive policies. And to think - the console still comes with DRM in the box, you have to connect and patch it out.
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JeffGUNZ  +   892d ago
Or he is addressing the issue since fanboys keep stating that and asking them that. Jesus, if he doesn't address it, it means they are rushing it. If he answers it and says they are not rushing it then it means he's lying and MS is rushing the system. You people never cease to amaze me.
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moparful99  +   892d ago
Since when does a Corporation have to make public statements about every rumor/conspiracy theory that boils up? In the past Microsoft mostly ignored rumors like this, do you not remember how long they deflected the RROD rumors and outright denied it was a problem? Now suddenly we're supposed to believe that they have a brand new altruistic attitude and will address all issues/rumors? Very poor waste of company resources and sadly smells of damage control..
SirBradders  +   892d ago
Of course they are rushing it there specs have changed more than i can count and they've done a u turn on all there policies. Clearly shows they havn't had the time to actually communicate with their fanbase and ask us what we want.

By you people you must mean logical and intelligent right because me and most people see facts and comment on them.

Although alot of people do post stupid comments yours falls slightly into one.
Fishy Fingers  +   893d ago
Seems to me we've been reading rumours based on both consoles from around the same time many of which were actually accurate. Other than the PS4 originally having 4GB of ram. Why exactly isn't everyone calling the additionally 4GB a "rushed addition"?

While MS have been stumbling with their strategy and changed policies based on Sonys, I don't see any real indication that the hardware itself is rushed.

Feel free to explain why you disagree if you do and please, no, "it's using AA batteries!!!".
grassyknoll  +   893d ago
The RAM isn't a rushed addon, because no changes have been made to the die or software: The 1GB chips will be replaced by 2GB ones instead. Sony are very very luck to source that. Changing the fundamentals & policies around a system is a far far bigger change.
CGI-Quality  +   893d ago
Because without a shred of proof, calling the additional 4GB of RAM a "rushed add-on" would be grasping at straws.

In this case, MS has stumbled. Period. Dot. We can make excuses, be in denial, or whatever. I agree with the notion that Sony caught them off-guard, based on their constant missteps.
H0RSE  +   892d ago
But as was already pointed out, their "stumbling" had more to do with the reveal and the backlash of their policies, and little to do with Sony "rushing" them.

Also factor in that the hardware of the X1 is infinitely more customized than that of the PS4 (and details still haven't been fully finalized/revealed about it) and it can appear as if things are rushed, but in reality, it is the nature of the beast with such an intricate system and the pressures of an upcoming launch.
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CGI-Quality  +   892d ago
@ H0RSE: The hardware in the X1 has also been adjusted, while Sony's stuff is the same as it is when it was unveiled nearly 7 months ago.

Microsoft wasn't ready to go, period. Plenty of evidence to draw that conclusion.
H0RSE  +   892d ago
Which doesn't prove your point. Changes to hardware in your eyes is this "smoking gun" as evidence that the system is rushed, but in reality, it is not. Sure, it *could* be evidence to your claim, but it could also just be evidence of a MS finding ways to optimize or improve their system before launch.

You can draw conclusions till the cows come home, it still doesn't make you any more right. Besides, people seem more concerned with "proving" whether or not MS was rushed and that Sony forced their hand, but it really isn't the point here. The point is whether or not it will be seen in the final product. If after the X1 launches, people seem overall happy with the product, does it matter if they were rushed or not, especially considering that both Sony and MS will likely release updated versions in the future?
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CGI-Quality  +   892d ago
@ H0RSE: Wrong again. It's more than just changes to the hardware, obviously, that show they weren't, and still aren't, fully prepared here. It happened to Sony last gen, them this gen. It's not just the system, though, their PR teams conflict with one another, policies have all but been retracted, and every week, we get some new info showing things are not so good for them. Show me where I'm wrong, I'll gladly continue to dispute it.

I can dig that you have an opposition, just don't pretend that you're right with nothing but hot air to accompany each post.
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moparful99  +   892d ago
@Fishyfingers Sony had in fact originally planned on a number near 4 gigs of ram but their panel of developers all resoundingly influenced Sony to use an 8 gig setup..

@Horse Do you know how costly it is to change an electronic device's specs? Not only do they have to account for the changes in terms of manufacturing from materials to tooling they have to resubmit hardware to the SEC for approval. It's costs them time, money, and reduces the number of units they can produce for launch. If the changes were only software adjustments and optimization then yes that's plausible but Microsoft kept the internal specs hush hush for months now, for what reason? If the design was final and ready for production they wouldn't have kept this information close to the chest.
pyramidshead  +   893d ago
what do you expect him to say? lol
thrust  +   893d ago
Ofc he is not right! Sony have done all this, the all powerful Sony!
Parasyte  +   893d ago
In the words of Lewis Black, "I...WILL BE THE JUDGE...OF THAT!!!"
cabbitwithscissors  +   893d ago
Lol, reminds me of Bhagdad Bob. Maybe he should change his name to that ? ;P

That aside, from all the news, information leaked out, statements directly from the horse's mouth and their actions since the announcement, it definitely looks, feels, sounds rushed to me.
christocolus  +   893d ago
can sony fans just get out of xbox articles for once.....4controllers were just confirmed for the ps4 but you dont see xbox fans there claiming that the xboxone can suppport 8 or 8 is greater than 4 kind of shows that you guys are more immature imo.yes some xbox fans are also ignorant but the majority of ridiculous comments are from sony fans.most sony articles are not trolled by xbox fans...and you guys rush to be the first to post in xbox articles and what even annoys me is the fact that ms is even responding to this....whoever feels it was rushed can decide not to buy it....easy. pls fbs grow up.
AJ Hartley  +   893d ago
Though this website was called news for gamers ?
Sono421  +   892d ago
This is a flaimbait article... what do you really expect?
GT67  +   892d ago
@ AJ

NOOOOO, ITS CALL news for beat up on at the moment.

Flatbattery  +   893d ago
Oh! but you made sure it was mentioned, in a Xbox article no less.

Everybody is entitled to an opinion.....EVERYBODY! Although you are just as entitled to disagree with it.

In the immortal words of a certain former Microsoft employee........Deal with it.

On topic, whatever the case may be, since Major Nelson declared that they couldn't just flip a switch regarding their DRM policy I am struggling to believe a word he says so every fibre of my being is screaming that the opposite is likely to be my personal OPINION.

Opin·ion [uh-pin-yuhn]
1.a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.

2.a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.

3.the formal expression of a professional judgment: to ask for a second medical opinion.

4.Law. the formal statement by a judge or court of the reasoning and the principles of law used in reaching a decision of a case.

5.a judgment or estimate of a person or thing with respect to character, merit, etc.: to forfeit someone's good opinion.
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Picnic  +   892d ago
A good post. Sadly, there are always some people who automatically decide to give anything with dictionary definitions in it a thumbs down.
Volkama  +   892d ago
I don't really get why people cite that "flip a switch" quote so often. Policy change is surely convoluted, and even from a purely technical perspective I'm sure the change was more involved than ticking a box or flipping a switch.
RiPPn  +   892d ago
@Volkama: The reason the flip a switch comment is cited is because it shows this guy has zero credibility especially to make the comments he makes. He is making comments like he is a top level exec yet he wasn't privy enough to know of the drastic drm policy change occurring only days later.
christocolus  +   893d ago
yes news for gamers.... not news for biased and ignorant fanboys . this site would be alot better if evryone respected each others views and not making ridiculous coments based on 0 facts and throwing insults around...going through some comments on this site and you would almost get the feeling that most gamers here are not up to 13yrs old. shown above .....smh.. indeed this is hopeless

anyways nice job ms....imo you guys are doing great.keep it up.
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Flatbattery  +   893d ago
It's no use complaining about fanboys and trolls anywhere on the internet, let alone here.

Say your piece if you feel the need and ignore what does not appeal to you, just heed this warning....... some people will not agree with you, not all of them are trolls and fanboys. If you have difficulty dealing with those who oppose your opinion then you clearly have no counter argument.

Regarding your above comment, where are your facts to back up the article? Because as far as I can tell whether you are for or against the subject matter, nobody has any facts so it is open to scrutiny.
Hicken  +   893d ago
But, you see, the entire reveal is a fact used to come to this conclusion.

Simply put, everything about the XB1's reveal and subsequent press screams "unready." The amazing lack of clarity with their messages, being so far out of touch with consumers' wishes, scaling back the launch which still doesn't even have a date, and all the people being fired or otherwise finding other employment.

If you can seriously look at how poorly they've handled the XB1, and still say they're doing a great job, then I think you should reevaluate who you call a fanboy.
kenshiro100  +   893d ago
It's okay to throw stones at Sony but heaven forbid Microsoft is criticized. Then its 'stay out of XBos articles!!1'

Give me a break. Not everyone is a fanboy. It's normal to have a discussion in a...wait for it...a gaming site!
dmeador  +   892d ago
Are you serious? Maybe it used to be flipped, but you need to look through any post in the last 6 months and its been the complete opposite. A very heavy sway to the Sony aisle
GiantEnemyCrab  +   892d ago
You must not of been here last console launch. It's the same record being played again. I'm just laughing this time at the insecurity. Anyway, I trust what I've played and seen with my own eyes. I don't need MN or anyone on N4G to confirm that. What I need is a release date!
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90Supra  +   892d ago

why you crying?
AJ Hartley  +   893d ago
Lol he rushed to reply he must be lerking on these websites with a sour face.
marcindpol  +   893d ago
You can clearly see and hear it from every angle.

What has not been rushed though is PlayStation 4!

Thanks for attention.
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chrissx  +   893d ago
IMO it does feel like its being rushed just to be able to fully compete with Ps4. The Xbone has lost everything that made it unique with those reversals,even tho I disagree with a lot of its original settings. Right now it looks like an inferior Ps4.
AJ Hartley  +   893d ago
And to think that tv support would never replace sky in the UK.
fOrlOnhOpe57  +   893d ago
Started development in Q4 2010? Launch in Q4 2013?
Is 3 years a reasonable period for what is a considerable amount of work for a new console? (legit question btw)
dazzrazz  +   893d ago
Not really they couldn't even meet hardware and software demand (if there was such a high one) so they scale back... from 20+ countries to what 13 ? and only 5 fully supported languages 0_o Anyway time will tell we will have to see whats gonna start breaking up apart inside the console 1st :D
dmeador  +   892d ago
Was that in the leaked docs? (The Q4 2010) I feel that the foundation was probably started way before that. But if not then I guess time will tell. Unless you have been involved in a major product dev team, I dont think someone could give much of an educated guess.
HurtfulTimez  +   892d ago
MS themselves said so

watch the first video (40 secs in)
dazzrazz  +   893d ago
Major Nelson is a biggest PR puppet, all he does it tell public whats he has been told to do so
Killjoy3000  +   893d ago
Then delay it in Australia. Pretty simple. Oh, but you wouldn't have the cahoonas to do that, would you Microsoft? Stop lying to me. It's insulting.
ICANPLAYGAMES2  +   893d ago
Does anyone even think of this guy as credible anymore, why should anyone listen to or believe anything that this guys says anymore (at the very least it should all be taken with a huge helping of salt). Just puttin' it out there.
yellowgerbil  +   893d ago
this is the same man that told Angry Joe off, then 2 days later everything he said turned out to be a lie. Not much credibility. All evidence points towards rushing, and history points towards an inferior product that will break
Haules  +   893d ago
Says the clown Major Nelson...
Caffo01  +   893d ago
What would you expect him to say? LOL
ninjagoat  +   893d ago
Main issue for me is this how many months is it now to release off off the xbox one and how much has been demoed on the xbox one. For the money they are asking id have expected by now a lot more up front demos on the hardware and not on pc. That worries me tbh even with my preorder in place.

I've always said it i play on all consoles so i have my PS4 in the bag as well from a very early stage and well looking forward to it Sony has given me reason to look forward to it.

But as a customer Microsoft has been a let down so far. Won't stop me buying it but my head is swimming with worry instead off whats to come on the console atm.
cyberninja  +   893d ago
Of course they not, lmao.
EXVirtual  +   893d ago
I find that very hard to believe, especially since they haven't even got a release date and the XB1 isn't launching in even half as many countries as the PS4 initially. What do you expect this guy to say? The truth? 'Oh urm, Sony caught us off guard and we needed to rush!' Of course not! Especially since people know MS has a bad track record for launch hardware.
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buynit  +   893d ago
Well to be fair ms is giving you more then just a bare bone console..

Kinect has to work in different regions/ languages they also have to get the tv intergration to work properly on many different cable providers boxes..

Sony is just launching the console... Hell we dont even get gaikai till some time next yr!
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WeAreLegion  +   893d ago
The question is:

Which one of you is Major Nelson?
buynit  +   893d ago
rush rush rush...

I tell you what ms or sony are not rushing it fast enough cause i still cant get one!
thetruthx1  +   893d ago
Are you guys going to be truthful and admit that Sony is also rushing because their games are still being played on dev kits


At least Microsoft has people playing on the actual consoles. One's were being played at Gamescom and Pax
Shad0wRunner  +   893d ago
I dont see one instance where Sony is rushing ANYTHING with the PS4.

Microsoft has said that:

1) Theyre only releasing in 13 countries, out of 21 initially.

2) Out of those 13 countries, only 5 will feature kinect voice recognition support, initially

3) External HDD's will not be supported, initially. And Im not talking about downloading games to external HDD's. Yes, well all know Sony said the PS4 will not allow games to be downloaded on an external HDD...but at least the PS4 will SUPPORT external HDD's for media playback; video's, music, etc...

4) Fifa 14 will only be included FREE in DAY ONE editions, stock pending....when they originally said it would be included in ALL XBox One models.

5) Has done a dozen 180's just to keep in line with Sony. Sony announced from day one, they would do this, this and that. Microsoft said "um...were not doing all that." Now theyre like "Okay, were gonna do all that too." Dont tell me Sony isnt indirectly guiding Microsoft to push the XBox One in the same direction as the PS4.

This console is being rushed, no debate about it. It doesnt sound anywhere near being ready for a November release date. Nowhere near it. And it will function and operate DAY ONE rushed, too.

I dont see Sony having ANY of the above mentioned problems with the PS4. Like it or not, Sony has been doing everythign right with the PS4. From PR, reveal, demonstrating the UI, games, tech & specs...the whole 9.

I cant wait to see the first error code people are gonna be getting with their XBox One launch consoles. (ERROR 100020 ex) 10 to 1 says this console has SOME KIND of hardware malfunction within it's first year. LOL
kenshiro100  +   893d ago
...That's your proof?

I don't see anything that indicates Sony rushed their console either.
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solidjun5  +   892d ago
At least Microsoft has people playing on the actual consoles. One's were being played at Gamescom and Pax "

Oh really??!?

Maybe you should change your name to "theliex1." Or possibly "thetrollx1." The latter fits you better.
Sci0n  +   892d ago
I feel bad for the microsoft fans who have been brainwashed last gen with the 360 and want to jump to the PS4 but they don't want to lose there gamerscores so they feel stuck and will most likely miss out on a epic console PS4 and get the one. I see there post in the official playstation forums every day and they are asking if there is anyway they can have there gamerscore from XBL transferred to PSN. They are finally waking up but feel trapped and held back by there gamerscores.
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ziggurcat  +   892d ago
@ thetruthx1:

BF4 was running on PC with xbone controllers at PAX (sorry, not gamescom).
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fsfsxii  +   893d ago
Time will tell...
MineHaxx  +   893d ago
Did Major Nelson just said Bullshit? :S
WitWolfy  +   893d ago
LOL Sure Major Nelson saying this console isn't being rushed is like saying this console can't work if it doesnt have the DRM feature intact.

When will you learn you lost all your integrity after spitting out all that BS M$ wanted you to say at E3
GarrusVakarian  +   893d ago
To quote Major Nelson:

"the console has been built around DRM, we can't just flip the switch"

Few days later...flips the switch.

You can't really believe anything this PR puppet says.
warewolfSS  +   893d ago
Well major Nelson .. N4G DISAGREE WITH YOU SO YOU are wrong.
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