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Bethesda: Nintendo has to 'do what Sony and Microsoft' have been doing for us

In a bold statement, Bethesda's Peter Hines says Nintendo didn't give third parties enough of a voice in pre-Wii U launch and didn't communicate with them well, explaining why Bethesda doesn't support Wii U and instead is aiming towards Xbox and Playstation consoles that do.

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zeal0us1697d ago (Edited 1697d ago )

Why did Hines wait till now to talk about Nintendo? Like months ago a bunch of publishers and developers made an outcry against Nintendo.

If developers like Bethesda felt the system need a stronger processor or more RAM they should've went to Nintendo and demand that.

If WiiU was on par with X1 or PS4, I still believe Bethesda wouldn't develop on it. They would blame low WiiU sales as the reason.

LOL_WUT1697d ago

Nintendo has to approach them not the other way around! lol ;)

Misaka_x_Touma1697d ago

why would Nintendo approach a developer who never have the interest in developing for Nintendo nor did they even talk about developing for Nintendo if they ever made a Powerful system again during 7th gen era.

AbortMission1697d ago

It's hilarious how these drones damage control by acting like Nintendo and 3rd parties are bickering school children with the "bully" (Bethesda) having to make amends to the child being bullied (Nintendo)

This is the business world. If Nintendo wants support, they have to open communication lines with 3rd parties like Bethesda. Bethesda doesn't need/want Nintendo since Bethesda - like many 3rd parties - can just take their games to other consoles and PC. Which is why Nintendo is the one who has to approach Bethesda/3rd parties and convince them that their system is the best.

Th4Freak1697d ago

@Misaka_x_Touma Looks like you have no idea of how to run a business. Nintendo is the one interested in sell Consoles, Bethesda have 5 other platforms to publish their games and if they have no interest on Nintendo, they have to approach to Bethesda, talk and reach a deal, that's how business is done.

JP13691697d ago (Edited 1697d ago )

Misaka_x_Touma -

They should approach devs because that's what you do to repair relationships and show them that you aren't arrogant and out of touch.
Case in point: Sony this gen compared to last.

"So repair relationship with a developer who never had a relationship with them. WUT? "

They've worked together before:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

And yes, you try to repair bad relationships, as it would be a bit stupid to attempt repair of a functioning relationship, now wouldn't it. As others have said, you have no business sense at all. You don't expand your reach by only be nice to those that are already in bed with your company. That only ensures that you will be sleeping alone eventually, and less than 200,000 sales in a quarter makes Nintendo seem pretty lonely.

zeal0us1697d ago (Edited 1697d ago )

If what you are working with isn't adequate enough for you, you demand something more doable and keep demanding until you get it.

Any way I'm done beating a dead horse and Bethesda crying foul this late into the stage isn't going change anything.

With all that said I wonder when and if the WiiU sales will the third party support improve or will we see the same thing as we now(crappy ports and ports with missing features).

gaffyh1697d ago

In this interview they basically confirmed that they won't make any games for Wii U, unless Nintendo moneyhats a game.

Misaka_x_Touma1697d ago (Edited 1697d ago )

@JP1369

"They should approach devs because that's what you do to repair relationships "

So repair relationship with a developer who never had a relationship with them. WUT?

@Th4Freak
" Looks like you have no idea of how to run a business. Nintendo is the one interested in sell Consoles, Bethesda have 5 other platforms to publish their games and if they have no interest on Nintendo, they have to approach to Bethesda, talk and reach a deal, that's how business is done."

They are intersted in getting back the developers and publishers who help make the successful.

The Reason why the have collaborated with
Sega, Capcom, Namco and Atlus.
Ubisoft, Disney, Activision and WB Games who are aiding.

Nintendo is aiming for their early years success and Nintendo like profit.

jcnba281697d ago

Sony never went to Bethesda for advice when they were developing the PS3 yet they still brought games to the PS3. They are still bringing games to current gen. Their argument is nothing but BS.

JP13691697d ago (Edited 1697d ago )

jcnba-

And how popular was Sony with devs last generation? Do you really think you hear about every visit Sony reps make to various developers? The answer is, no, you don't. But, if you pay attention at the beginning of every generation, you do hear more about these visits. And wouldn't you know it, MS and Sony make a lot of them. Also, you're wrong:

http://gamingbolt.com/skyri...

If they're willing to work with a publisher to get DLC working, don't you think they're at least communicating from the very beginning? How else do the deals get made? Bethesda doesn't need Nintendo's stillborn console to survive, but Nintendo does need support from studios like them to compete.

From the link:
“We work with all of our partners to try and solve their problems. We have a big, broad dev support team that works closely with Bethesda—and with all of our partners—to work with them to solve that any sort of issues they have along the way,” Sony VP Adam Boyes told Kotaku.

Sony, at the height of its arrogance, was still more likely to work with developers than an increasingly isolated Nintendo.

MWong1696d ago (Edited 1696d ago )

I might get a lot of hates for this, but I have a feeling in at least 3 consoles from now Nintendo will go the way of SEGA. Only difference is they will continue producing handhelds.

Nintendo has lost touch with 3rd party publishers/developers and this has been going on since the GameCube. Some 3rd party publishers come aboard, while Nintendo continues to soley focus on their 1st party lineup. The only 3rd party publisher that seems to give any time to the WiiU is UbiSoft. Who knows how much longer that will last as next-gen consoles take center stage.

SilentNegotiator1696d ago

"why would Nintendo approach a developer who never have the interest in developing for Nintendo nor did they even talk about developing for Nintendo if they ever made a Powerful system again during 7th gen era"

That is a STUPID argument.

Nintendo should approach the top developers because they were trying to make a system for developers (or at least, that's what you might have thought from watching E3 2011). Nintendo should be seeking new partners for their new system that doesn't have the attractions that their last system had. Bethesda is perfectly successful with what the output they have for their products (PC, PS, Xbox) and have no need to go around begging to have input with companies that show no interest in them or any third parties.

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gedden71697d ago

Dude you are sooooo talking the truth... This has little to do with system power or sales.... Its all about game politics and propaganda...

aawells071697d ago (Edited 1697d ago )

"They would blame low WiiU sales as the reason"

Thats still a good reason to not develop on it and a reason that a lot of devs use all the time.

clouds51696d ago

They can't use that argument and develop for xbox one or ps4 exclusives at the same time. They aren't even out and no one knows how well they will sell. Wii u at least has a small and growing install base.
The only consequent Dev in that regard is rockstar releasing gta v only for ps360.

N4g_null1697d ago

He wanted input on Nintendo system, plus they could have passed along some secrets.

What is funny is ms listened to publishers... we almost got a drm internet console like the pspgo. Or almost like it.

I wonder who in the pc realm is reaching out to these guys? Who does it in the mobile sector?

also something tells me zelda will be up against skyrim, its not official yet but I can promise you way less bugs. Sony didnt listen to devs until the ps4, technically they still didn't listen. Their moves are strictly political. Im sure these developers know the down falls of using gddr5 as main memory. Yet no one is going to complain because everyone likes money hats.

their code isnt good enough to let them in on what is happening. Sony only spoke with them because ms fanboys used this very studio to point out how inferior the ps3 can be.

plus these guys are very close to be irrelevant.... everyone is making huge worlds now, their gimmick is gone, and no one cares.

Ol_G1696d ago

glad there are some people left with common sense

SilentNegotiator1696d ago

1) Why would Bethesda approach a company they have no history with and tell them how to make their hardware?

2) Uhhh...well if you have TWO dealbreaking issues (bad support, bad sales) and one of them goes away, the other does not become any less legitimate of a concern. OF FREAKING COURSE publishers are going to dodge a console with terrible sales.

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MEGANE1697d ago

Nintendo are the ones that are suppose to now the needs of developing. Seems that they can think outside their first party studios and their games( Mario and its 1000 variations). Nintendo made their " next gen to compete with PS3 and 360, not the PS4 and XBOXone. Thats where nintendo fail. I think the gap its to big between the PS$ , XBOXone and the wiiu. Sorry nintendo... Maybe next gen ( 7 years from now)

yellowgerbil1697d ago

ok why did the end of the article turn into sony bashing?
for one thing Both sony and MS have about 5-5.5gb of ram to be used by the games, and that IS larger than 4gb TOTAL. if was originally 4gb that would mean probably only 3gb were offered to the game developers for use.
The author took a complaint against Nintendo by a developer and snuck in his own bias against Sony, you a sneaky fox

bass4g1697d ago (Edited 1697d ago )

I think the whole point was that they were questioning how truly effective devs complaints were in changing Sony's decision. I honestly don't think it was meant to be a dig. It was however completely unnecessary.

Misaka_x_Touma1697d ago

Nintendo was the strongest with SNES and N64.
GC second strongest after Xbox.