Submitted by Abriael 816d ago | rumor

Battlefield 4 at the Xbox Booth at PAX Most Probably Runs on the Same High-End PCs used at Gamescom

Yestereday DualShockers reported that the build of Battlefield 4 currently running at the Xbox booth at PAX Prime is actually a PC version running on high end PCs.

Some tried to diminish the issue by arguing that those PCs aren’t actually high-end PCs, but either Xbox One development PCs or rigs with specs similar to the Xbox One to faithfully represent what Xbox One owners will see when they’ll finally get their hands on the game.

Unfortunately, that’s not the case at all, and everything about the PCs used at PAX seems to indicate that they're exactly the same PCs used at Gamescom, the specs of which are known. The Xbox One's specs isn't even in the same order of magnitude. (Battlefield 4, PC, Xbox One)

Is this rumor true? Rumor votes 75
iamnsuperman  +   816d ago
I am not surprised if it is as DICE has been running this game on high end PC all over the place (regardless of Xbox One or PS4).edit: the only snipit we have had for a console version is what IGN (on the PS4) said which sounded no where near finished

It's DICE after all
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YNWA96  +   816d ago
This is a standard, to run it on a development high end machine.... Its only a fuss so they can take a shot at X1. If this was PS4, would people make a fuss?
riceking  +   816d ago
Abriael  +   816d ago
It's not a "development" "high end" machine.

There's no "development" "high end" machines to begin with. Development PCs have only slightly higher specs than the console.

This is a commercially available high end PC with specs that aren't even on the same order of magnitude as the Xbox one and that you can buy yourself for 1300+ euros.
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cyguration  +   816d ago

Yes, this is true. Devkits are not commercially available PCs.

What has been running at tradeshows contain off-the-shelf PC parts that anyone can build. That's not a devkit.

People are either purposefully trying to re-name household PCs as devkits (which they are not) or they're trying to downplay the issue to maintain their fanboyism.
Abriael  +   816d ago
@cyguration: this isn't even a PC everyone can build with off the shelves parts. This is a fully pre-made PC you can buy as a whole package, decorations and all, as it's the officially licensed Battlefield 4 PC, for sale for 1300something euros.
strifeblade  +   816d ago
Sony fanboys are just jelous that the x1 version looks better than the horrible ps4 version. lol
AngelicIceDiamond  +   816d ago
Dice are a bunch of PC fanboy afterall.

It still amazes me fanboys went full assult on X1 http://n4g.com/news/1344296...

Something similar popped up with PS4 last week. http://n4g.com/news/1340425...

When in actuality http://n4g.com/news/1341344...

Dice always optimize its engine to the highest priority machine which is PC. Its obvious they have to make compromises on current gen systems (no brainer) but compromises will even hit next gen systems as well? I'm looking forward to BF4 but these guys don't know what it means to Tailor between console and PC.

Witcher 3 is PC game that will look as good on next gen systems as well. The Witcher devs aren't optimizing to the point of compromising The X1 and PS4 version in favor of the PC like Dice are.

I like Dice but they need to learn to tailor instead of making PC nearly night and day when compared to Next gen systems.
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twinspectre  +   816d ago
DICE are a bunch of no brainer and they don't deserve all the attention and our money
1st learn how to make a game
and then maybe you will get something..
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pyramidshead  +   816d ago
uh oh...
gamewizard99  +   816d ago
Pathetic, I don't know who's to blame Microsoft for not giving them long enough with a dev kit or DICE for being scared to show their own game on the console.
quenomamen  +   816d ago
This is MS's booth, they control what hardware is used not DICE. Only ones scared to show anything is MS, they trying hard to portray the X1 as being more powerfull than it really is.
IHassounah  +   816d ago
EA is the controller of their games even if they were shown at Microsoft booth , TitanFall was played on an Xbox One and looked great as the PC version ; DICE is the problem here
Animal Mutha 76  +   816d ago
This has been reported already and this is the second article I have seen from this submitter on the same subject.

In the UK we use the term 'shit stiring'.

On topic it is most dissapointing that console versions are not being shown on their target hardware in a decent state. It would be good to know at this stage how close they are likely to be to the fantastic PC visuals we have seen. Given the known availability of Xbox one kits that we have seen being used by other devs I can't understand how DICE cannot show the two together unless there are substantial issues with the software.
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JsonHenry  +   816d ago
We have the same saying here in the USA. I guess it was imported. :)
Abriael  +   816d ago
Actually, it's not the same thing. The first article brought evidence that the version showcased was the PC one, the second brings evidence that identifies the exact PC model and its specs, demonstrating that it has absolutely nothing to do with an xbox one development PC or a PC used to represent the Xbox one's specs.

In journalism we use the term "in-depth follow-up", while we define your reaction "annoyed fanboy" :D
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FamilyGuy  +   816d ago

Very in-depth, I don't even see how this is classified as a "rumor" with all the evidence that's gathered in this article.

It's as proper as an English gentlemen.
Deadpoolio  +   816d ago
Don't say Console versions like SONY is doing it also....It has been confirmed since E3 that games on PS4 are being ran on PS4 dev kits...It's only shady ass Micro$haft that are using High end power PCs to run their games...Which people might be alright with if it weren't for the fact that they're using Windows 7 and Nivida graphics cards when the One is designed around Windows 8 and using AMD chips
IHassounah  +   816d ago
forzacentral.com/forum/threads /xbox-one-games-did-not-run-on- high-end-pcs-at-e3.39428/
N4G_IS_SONYS_WHORE   815d ago | Spam
The_Truth_24_7  +   816d ago
So that means the pc version is gimped and full of bugs.
Withdreday  +   816d ago
You do know this is a beta version right? The final PC version won't be as buggy.

But anyway, I suspect the versions of the games will go, in order of quality: PC, PS4, and waaayyy in 3rd, the Xbox One version.

You can tell something is up because most companies don't even want to show games running it. This is getting ridiculous.
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FoodleFumper  +   816d ago
Glad I went PC this time around.
arjman  +   816d ago
You do know that this is battlefield and it probably will be buggy :D
4logpc  +   816d ago
This does make me nervous.

The lead up to Battlefield 3 was like this as well. DICE wouldnt show the console version at all until right before the release, and IMO the console versions were very sub par.

I just hope BF4 doesnt turn out that way.
JsonHenry  +   816d ago
I remember playing the BF3 beta weeks before it launched and the game was a buggy POS. When the game launched it was however a pretty solid game. Hopefully we see a repeat of this.
iamnsuperman  +   816d ago
I wouldn't call it solid. That game needed losts of patches at launch. The patch in march 2012 was almost 2GB
source: http://www.xbox360achieveme... . The launch of BF3 on consoles wasn't as smooth as it should have be
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LonDonE  +   816d ago
but to be fair BF3 even in its heavenly down scaled quality on the current gen consoles was literally pushing the consoles to the edge!! its why the fans are always on full blast on bf3, not to mention the frequent system lock ups, i know friends who had old ps3 fatty and had them ylod on BF3, same with the 360 rrod, am not blaming bf3 per se, but such a advanced game is bound to cause already damaged consoles over the edge!

Anyway i remember the BF3 beta on PS3 was a low res buggy mess, and then when the final game launched it was fine, granted their were some bugs still, but all games today ship with bugs! except nintendo games!

Am sure BF4 on next gen consoles will be fine, in my eyes as long as its a constant 60fps in at least native 720p i am more then happy!!
It is most likely going to be native 720p at 60fps up-scaled to 1080p which is AWESOME for a launch game! as dice tailors their engine to each systems strengths the next battlefield game should be even better!!

Everyone needs to chill, dice will deliver!
JsonHenry  +   816d ago
@iamnsuperman. I should have stated I played the beta on PC, not the consoles. It did have some issues at launch. But it wasn't anything close to being as bad as the beta was.
No_Limit  +   816d ago
I swore this story was posted yesterday. It is EA, they ran almost everything on PCs at Gamescom like NFS was shown to have both XB1 controllers and DS4 attaching to the PC versions.
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Abriael  +   816d ago
Not the same story. That story brought evidence that the version showcased was the PC one. This one identifies exactly the PC used and its specs, demonstrating that it's not an Xbox One Dev PC or a representation of the Xbox One's specs, as many argued.

Completely different focus and contents.
MasterCornholio  +   816d ago
Wow the GPUs of the PCs cost the same as the console itself.

No wonder it runs at 1080P at 60FPS with the settings on Ultra.
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Abriael  +   816d ago
And it has two of em.
MasterCornholio  +   816d ago
OMG your right. I didnt realize it but this looks pretty bad to me.
OldParr  +   816d ago
They either were running or not!! " most probably" makes you lose credit!
ABeastNamedTariq  +   816d ago
Shenanigans! I call shenanigans!
GamingTruth  +   816d ago
peoples pc fanboyism is at a new high in this year
Withdreday  +   816d ago
It was made for PC first, it'd be a joke for that version NOT to be better because of the GPUs they're working with. Don't tell me that's what you're talking about.

Besides, it's already been all but confirmed that the PS4 version will be the best among consoles and we still have a chance for it to be at full 1080P at 60FPS, and really, that's all that counts.
EXVirtual  +   816d ago
Well, I doubt that it'll run @1080p @60fps, just because it's a launch title.
Withdreday  +   816d ago
@ EXVirtual

Yeah probably not, but even upscaled with a solid 60 fps would be great.

As long as it's not as lopsided as BF3 was from consoles to PC, I'll be satisfied.
Belking  +   816d ago
ThatCanadianGuy514  +   816d ago
Forza @ E3 (running on PC)
Forza Pax (running on xbox)

Weird how every xbox game demo post E3 looks terrible.LOL @ Ryse especially

Bogus isn't it?
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Belking  +   816d ago
Bogus...lol n4g is bogus therefore their news is too.
Convas  +   816d ago

Forza has been running on actual Xbox One hardware since E3.

This was confirmed EXPLICITLY by Digital Foundry.

On top of that, you got those from NeoGAF, and you conveniently forgot to mention that the PAX footage is from Twitch upscaled to 720p.

Of course it looks ass.
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ThatCanadianGuy514  +   816d ago
"Of course it looks ass"

I'm glad you agree.And just because DF says something, with zero backing of proof, it's taken as fact now?

Especially DF's recent track record of bogus rumors and fabrications?

The proof is in the pics.Some people just handle the truth, apparently.
Convas  +   816d ago
Nope it's not the truth and you'll be disappointed to find Forza 5 running right as rain come launch.

You guys are just looking for every opportunity now, every opportunity.

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dazzrazz  +   816d ago
I don't think you can tell much difference between two heavily pixelated screenshots from a heavily compressed youtube video. If you really really wanna look up the details you need to look at the screen grabs straight from the console video buffer. But thats a different story :>
xchamp  +   816d ago
I played forza at gamescom, with an actual xbox one infront of me, and all I can say is it looks amazing
No_Limit  +   816d ago
LOL, now showing low quality pics of YouTube videos and comaparing two different tracks is considered evidence of downgrade?

The length some fanboys go to make themselves sleep better at night.
ThatCanadianGuy514  +   816d ago
lol you guys are in so much denial
thetruthx1  +   816d ago
Their are still things in the Xbox One that are unknown and it is already more powerful than originally perceived

dazzrazz  +   816d ago
Still at the end of the day no matter how much you try you can't tune up Nissan Leaf to run like a Bugatti

FrigidDARKNESS  +   816d ago
Was this posted yesterday? Once again folks trying their best to make something out of nothing.
If i recall the ps4 was running on pc devkits at Gamescom but never got posted here on this forum.

We have been over this thousands of times its a pc that that has been debugged to run xbox one code it is no different from the original devkit.
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Abriael  +   816d ago
Nope. yesterday's post didn't bring evidence of the machines used and their specs. It just brought evidence that it was the PC version.
dazzrazz  +   816d ago
Yeah right, especially with nNidia cards inside :P
Abriael  +   816d ago
Hey, this one has ATI cards. 470 bucks ones, but hey...
wtopez  +   816d ago
Did everyone forget how the Battlefield 3 beta looked? It's the same demo build from E3- that's almost 3 months old and they still have close to 2 months before release. This is DICE we're talking about here. Can we at least give them the benefit of the doubt that they know what they're doing?
quenomamen  +   816d ago
I'm sure MS has no problem with this type deceitfulness, zero, none. They prefer it actually.
JunioRS101  +   816d ago
Who cares?

They have a release date, one that will not get moved back. They'll ship you whatever they will ship you, and you'll have to deal with it whether or not it's perfect.

I, for one, do not care. I'm going to buy it regardless of what the press says, simply because of how thoroughly I enjoyed BF3.
EXVirtual  +   816d ago
I don't know why they've done this.
Is it because of the fact that DICE prioritizes with the PC? Because this thing isn't even in the same league as the XB1. The GPUs on this thing cost as much as the console. It'll be interesting to see the actual console versions.
FrigidDARKNESS  +   816d ago
Having devkits at trade show events are common. You will see the same thing at the Eurogamer Expo and TGS this month.

They are doing a 64 player demo demo at pax and the x1 beta machines weren't equipped to do it. They had no choice but to use PCs for this event. The pc iare running x1 dev kit codes without that the games wouldn't play at all.
EXVirtual  +   816d ago
No choice? Then why did MS say they have real retail XB1s running actual code?
Either way, they didn't have to use high end PCs with GPUs that cost as much as the console itself.
FrigidDARKNESS  +   816d ago
@ above they do TitanFalls, Ryse Forza 5 ect.....they are doing a 64 player tournament with BF4 the x1 beta machines not equipped to do it. Keep in mind these consoles at trade events aren't final hardware. One of the posteers above mentioned its not a high end pc its an 470 dollar ATI csrd?
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ashiksorel  +   816d ago
They really are doing a bad job with the PR....
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Rowdius_Maximus  +   816d ago
God damnit MS has any of your games not been on PC's way more powerful than the Xbox One!?
thexmanone  +   815d ago
Dam Sony has any of your games not been on PC's. PC`s are way more powerful than the PS4!?
Heisenburger  +   816d ago
Perhaps the beta version of PC is closer to how the final build will look on consoles?

If that were true it would make more since than a trashy looking next-gen game.

Of course there is nothing to base that theory on.

Just tossing it out there...
acdata  +   816d ago
just because this pc power is equal to xbox one APU+dgpu
trywizardo  +   816d ago
same like current gen , higher specs don't mean better look as most games looks better on 360 than ps3 , games will look better in X1 than PS4
xkevmandc  +   816d ago
high end gaming PCs don't run on 8 gb of ram...you max out the memory ok!! if you don't know. 8 gb is nothing, win it comes to gaming PC's. consoles are so far behind....
Tzuno  +   815d ago
they are smart once the game comes out and you buy it there is nothing left to do your money are in their pockets. maybe you can yell at a wall but do not expect him to hear you.

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