After speaking with a Microsoft representative at PAX Prime 2013, it seems at least some Xbox One functionality previously thought to require an Xbox Live Gold membership actually won’t.
Oh really? Well that's good. It was stupid that it was behind a paywall anyway. EDIT: I think we need official confirmation. It's still being advertised as requiring Gold on MS's site, and this rep might not be right. He didn't seem particularly informed (he called it "stuff", not features or anything similar), so he might be referring to one specific thing, that may or may not be the guide. We'll see, I guess.
First time for everything
Great news, now they should remove more. http://n4g.com/news/1338295...
Of course it isnt. Their not going to basically shut down your TV service untill you pay for Gold that would be insane.
there are still 81 tv features that you have to have gold for to see. Some of them are things like, video game sights, (example gametrailers.com). Facebook, twitter, youtube, last.fm Are you kidding me? I didn't know the only reason I can see those is because I have gold! I guess I will not be renewing! Blank Microsoft, blank them to heck! source: http://gaminrealm.com/2013/...
It would be nice if they would allow for free...but I doubt it would be, either way most of us who are going to purchase gold for it will have no issue.
Who actually said the TV stuff was behind gold? It is being passed through the console, if it was blocked, people would just return the console immediately. The most stupid thing that is supposedly behind gold is Internet Explorer. Skype is also a little stupid, but that will have some sort of server load so it's a little more understandable, but IE behind the paywall is completely moronic. Hope they 180 on that stupid decision.
I am mega confused. Why would we have needed Gold for the TV stuff in the first place. It doesn't require any internet connection. It is just controlling your cable box through your TV like how we control the cable box now but without the One (you are literately just plugging the cable box into the one instead of your TV). I assumed it never needed Gold in the first place because it doesn't connect to the internet in anyway. Help anyone for +helpful edit: @below Thanks
i think it's more around the features of the oneguide (like the additional information for tv shows (actor bios and what not), what's trending amongst your friends or globally, ability to switch through the channels by using kinect and saying xbox ESPN for example... at least that's what i think they're saying
Xbox One not needed for TV but im sure some will if they dont have enough HDMI inputs
Possibly needs a net connection to pull in the data to populate the guide
yeah it would just like the WiiU does it to get the guide
Won't the Xbox have to be on for the passthrough? I mean if someone wants to watch cable, they have to turn on the X1 then turn on the cable box? I don't like turning on my consoles if I don't have to but this kind of seems unnecessary. BTW the game controller as a remote is something that I personally don't like to do especially if more people in the house want to watch cable, and that's the prob.
Why would you need to pay for Xbox Live to use something that you are already paying a subscription for that works without Xbox? Only a fool would let someone charge them to use something that they have already paid for. People aren't stupid you know.
this must be a sarcastic post... but in case it isnt... xbox live fee charges you to use the internet that you are already paying for. So yeah, people are that stupid, and apparently there are tons of them. (xbox fans).
gamers rejoice!!! lol
Nothing is final till the day the console releases. Many like to judge, critique, point fingers and generally hate on speculations that have either been completley fabricated from assumptions and guesses which is then latched onto by the minions which is then discussed so much that people start believing that it's real. Then we have MS say something and everyone is in uproar because they don't know what to believe because everyone had been talking so much crap about their policy that it's almost impossible to figure out what's rumour and what's fact. Bottom line, they are free to change their policy as often as they like till the product is actually ready to ship. They don't answer to us, they tell us when they are ready, just like Sony. Pay wall, no pay wall, free or subscription, it's for MS to decide where and when they need to charge based on the amount of resources they need to pump into each aspect to allow for a seamless experience via controller, gesture or voice. They decided to make a multi sensory input device and it's up to us if we want that. If the experience isnt to ones taste then just don't buy an Xbox. The new Xbox is a new type of device, it's not trying to be just a games console. MS are really trying to synergies the livingroom experience for the gamer, this isn't a toy it's a gadget, but it's designed to be used by all types of gamers, young and old. It's sad to see so much immaturity when discussing the features and benefits of the One. Speaking sensibly, I would love to see: All Apps Skype Game DVR Not to require a Gold Subscription. But if MS can explain why this is so and justify the cost to them to maintain these features for us then I might be more accepting. The point is fairly mute in my situation though as I have been a live member for a Looooong time! And a PS+ member for just over a year. I see the value that is added by the subscription. Don't forget how fortunate we are thanks to the nature of these always connected consoles, things were never so diverse pre-broadband. At the end of the day you don't have to pay if you don't want to, you can just have a games console from the price of admission, which is no different to the way it used to be. You want to experience everything these consoles have to offer then you pay the premium. I for one will be continuing my subscriptions to both services as it adds immensely to my overall experience and enjoyment of my favourite pass time. Edit:fixed typo
ka-boom goes the PS4
...in the minds of Xbox fanboys.
Sony fans are out in full force today... On topic, If this is the case, then good news
Sadly they are out in full force everyday trolling Xbox relayed news post on here and other parts of the net
@ falviousuk Oh stop it...I see more Xbox fanboys on here trolling then I do with PS4 fans. The reason it looks that way to you because your an Xbox fan and you hate to see all the possitve light the PS4 and Sony are getting but the problem is people praising them and pointing out Microsoft's problems is not trolling.
In honesty, I find the endless Sony buttkissing a lot more annoying than "trolling".
So the Xbone just did the 180 and exploded with the PS4?
This isn't a 180, it's a clarification of false assumptions.
Its not a false assumption, if you bother to read the MS website it clearly says you need Xbox live gold for it.
Looks like you've never heard of PlayTV for PS3. It does TV but much, much better.
play Tv only gives you 12 channels, how is that better? you do know microsoft just signed a deal with time warner that gives you all channels write.
@whoyouwit04 Was a decent tech for thhe time it was released. Not everyone in UK had Sky+ and most households actually just have a freeview box. So recording TV and/or being able to watch it on PSP via remote play(I think) was amazing. However I had Sky+ so never needed it. Can't really comment on the Xbone features though since I don't know how US TV works.
@whoyouwit04 Wrong. PlayTV has 89 channels. Proof: http://freeview.co.uk/whats... PlayTV also allows you to set recordings and rewind live tv. It can record programmes while you are playing a game and saves to the HDD. You can set recordings so the PS3 switches itself on records the programme then switches itself off. I use it every single day. PlayTV is light years ahead of Microsofts TV offering. It's boarder line ridiculous that Microsoft are touting that they are the go-to console for TV.
You must have a special version then...lol play tv sucks for everyone else. Sony is getting some version or ps4 too but it will most likely be half assed knowing them. Streaming liver tv is Nona be problematic. If thy cant even get Gaikai p and running smoothly then streaming tv is gonna be much more difficult but not impossible......but this Sony so you know when they announce something you will be waiting or ever or it.
@Belking I give up with you. Sony clearly have a superior product but you just can't accept it. The seething jealously that is portrayed in your writing is all too clear. Marked as trolling.
"ka-boom goes the PS4" Right in your face baby!
While the TV stuff is cool, I'm not buying a PS4 to watch TV. Just like I won't be buying an Xbox One when Titanfall comes out to watch TV. If it can play blurays and awesome games, that's all I need.
I got an xbox360, buying x1.. But never paid for xbox live gold due to everything being inside a paywall.
I stopped paying for it over a year ago myself. It just wasn't worth it anymore for me. Every single feature that is behind the GOLD pay wall is available for FREE somewhere else. EVERY SINGLE ONE. LOL
Not much of a TV fan but this is good I guess. Can you stick like, a PS3/360 into the HDMI in?
So what is behind the XBL paywall is the ability for XB1 to make recommendations?? Or am I missing something?? MS really need to fix up their communication on their site. First they list multiplats as excluvises ---> http://www.gamepur.com/news... Then they can't clearly list the limits of voice commands in different countires on their own official website ---> http://www.neogaf.com/forum...
Destiny and Watch Dogs are still being subtly advertised as exclusives. That's pretty low.
I guess it must be low of Sony to pay rock star to only advertise gtav as available on the ps3. Or is that different. Of course its different because its fine for Sony to do these kind of deals but not OK for MS to do this
That's completely different, in fact. Sony and R*/T2 have a marketing partnership with each other. It's just like COD and MS. Destiny and Watch Dogs have exclusive content deals for Sony's platform. MS puts those two titles CLEARLY IN THE MIDDLE of their actual exclusives. On a page about their exclusives. Is that not low? It can easily trick the uniformed. Do a little research.
Wasn't different when everybody on this site kept saying that Microsoft is falsely advertising COD making it appear as it's an exclusive. But now that Sony is doing it the rules have once again changed. Now it's ok. Just like paying to play online is now ok. "MS puts those two titles CLEARLY IN THE MIDDLE of their actual exclusives. On a page about their exclusives. Is that not low? It can easily trick the uniformed." The mistake was also corrected.
@Bzone The mistake was corrected? Oh, that must be why Destiny and Watch Digs are STILL THERE. Check on the website. And, I wasn't one of those people who said they "falsely advertised", and I frankly don't care. It's a marketing partnership.
Where? Because here they aren't listed as exclusives: http://news.xbox.com/2013/0... I guess you are talking about the main games page. They list 4 games on that page that aren't exclusives. They don't say they are either. You guys are so wanting to catch Microsoft at something that you will reach to get it. Just because they talk about exclusives on the MAIN Games page doesn't mean all games on the MAIN games page are exclusive. They don't say they are. Just you guys grasping for anything you can.
@falviousuk MS does the same thing with COD so.... This is their official website. They falsely advertised a multiplatform title has an exclusive. The Tv guide and Voice commands is not that big of a deal IMO just poorly written. But falsely advertising games as exclusives on your official webpage is a big deal.
Good news for people looking forward to this feature.
doesn't it say that gold is required on the actual xbox website? can't find the link myself but i've seen it before edit: it's linked in the article my bad
Always thought that was a dumb idea...but with xbl making so much money the last 10 years, ms saw no incentive.. If this is true, thanks Sony. Don't you love what the smell of competition is cookin...
Thank sony for what? They didn't do a thing.
Another reversal? Theyre on a roll...
Cool another 180. Keep em up Microsoft. Motorola RAZR i
Just for the record, MS clarifying that everyone else's assumption is wrong...does not mean it's a 180. It's clear that people saying this is are just fanboys that wish to talk trash and nothing more
It's advertised (now and previously) as requiring Gold on MS's site (for now, at least). There were no assumptions. What are you going on about?
I'd have hoped so too! Great news for people who wanna watch some tvs with one.
How about HBOgo, Netflix, Facebook, Twitter, UFC, ESPN, Crackle, Skype, Epix, Amazon Instant Video, Internet Explorer, YouTube, Twitch, etc??? I think it's ridiculous that all of those things are still behind the pay wall AND there are still Ads on Xbox gamer's dashboards when you pay for XBL
I know. It's not just ridiculous - it's disgraceful. "Oh we will remove this feature that doesn't require Xbox Live gold, but we'll make you pay to access the other 80 features that don't require it either". Microsoft is one huge joke. One day we'll wake up and the way in which they treat their consumers will have been one long dream.
I agree totally. They are some money grubbing fiends. The sad part is they have somehow managed to make the majority believe that it's necessary to pay for those things and XBL as a service is worth it. It's crazy lol
The xbox one wanted to be a 'patriot' machine, but i guess the masses won
It's not surprising with all the turnarounds(180 Sony fans). And expect more now that they moved Don Mattrick out the way.. He was mostly the reason why they had to undo everything that was not convenient to its consumers.. Blind fans see 180s, I see opportunity..
Well that would defeat the purpose of that feature if it would of needed gold...lol anyway this is a nice feature that is exclusive to Xbox one. Only way Sony can do this one is by streaming which is more difficult.
What, you mean like PlayTV? http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... Oh you universally naive MS fanboys crack me up. First it was TV, then it was Twitch, then it was Skype, then it was voice/motion camera control. Exclusive to Xbox One... for just a little while. And how do you explain the 80 other features locked behind the paywall, most of which don't require XBL Gold? http://gaminrealm.com/2013/...
Yeah, because they only promote TV. TVTVTVTVTVTVTV. Cable is way to mainstream,
Another 180 now thats a news
http://www.youtube.com/watc... this is all i have to say. swallow it, xdrones.
Hard to give kudos for something that should be a given. The same should go for all the other media services.