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Microsoft: Xbox One is worth $100 more than PlayStation 4

"I think we do more. I think our games are better. I think as people start to experience Kinect and see what it can do using voice, I think that’s better," he added. "I think the ability to have an all-in-one system where you can plug in the TV, that’s better. I think we’ll have a better online service." -Albert Penello, senior director of product planning and management.

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Kingthrash3601546d ago (Edited 1546d ago )

says the makers of windows 8, vista, 2000.
are they really saying that $100 is tv+kinect+ battery powerd controllers+ underpowerd system??
just when you start to forget how lost they are, they remind you just how much they are..

blitz06231546d ago

That's a lot of "I think". Very reassuring indeed!

black0o1546d ago

is this a free advertisement for PlayStation ?

Skips1546d ago (Edited 1546d ago )

"It’s up to us to prove that it’s worth $100 more. I think it is"

Wow! Even MS employees aren't totally sure about the value of it.

...

Anyways, when you have the weaker console, more expensive console, and not to mention LESS TALENTED (emphasis on less talented) 1st party devs making games for it...

"I think" is just about as much as you can say. lol

Anyways...

http://www.expertreviews.co...

When Xbox is getting MASSACRED on it's own home turf... You KNOW you're in the minority if you consider Xbone is "better"...

JokesOnYou1546d ago (Edited 1546d ago )

Hell yeah X1 is the best. Best games. Best controller. Best headset. Best online service with dedicated servers/cloud. Best dashboaord/UI/snap/apps. Best motion control/voice/advance tech. Best social community/infrastructure. Best overall value. Most adaptable company with deep pockets.

Edit just for you sparta76

mafiahajeri1546d ago

At least hes thinking before he talks unlike the guy that told people to go buy a 360 if they didnt have Internet, lol.

assdan1546d ago

Exactly, all he gives is opinion and untrue facts.

sparta761546d ago

@ jokes I agree with you, PS4 is the best!!! 😝

xHeavYx1546d ago (Edited 1546d ago )

How is it worth $100? The hardware is weaker, they don't have a ton of reliable 1st party studios, they have abandoned the hardcore 360... I can go on and on .
lol at jokes, trying to convince himself, most of his " reasons" have nothing to do with gaming

zeal0us1546d ago

Oh boy it seems Microsoft is kicking the hornet's nest again. I wonder how this will turn out.

n4rc1546d ago

@skips

No.. They aren't stupid or arrogant enough to try and tell you what value is... He thinks it is.. And so do i

You dont? Good for you.. Thats why we all have a choice

Godmars2901546d ago

"At least hes thinking before he talks unlike the guy that told people to go buy a 360 if they didnt have Internet, lol."

Well he did have the other guy's bad example to go by after the fact. Who knows what he might have said without such.

Eonjay1546d ago

The Xbox console by itself is cheaper to make than the PS4 console. Since stronger GPUs cost more than weaker ones and because GDD5 memory is more expensive than DDR3 the value of Kinect must be estimated by Microsoft to be more than $100. Keep in mind that the Original Kinect sold for $150 but only cost $50 to manufacture.

sincitysir11546d ago

Well to be honest the consoles are so similar now the only thing different are exclusives, price, and their philosophies. Personally I prefer Sonys price exclusives and philosophy but other people prefer microsofts.

But of course ur gunna think ur consoles worth the price. Wha r u gunna say? "We'll i wish it were cheaper"

ziggurcat1546d ago

@ zeal0us:

"Oh boy it seems Microsoft is kicking the hornet's nest again. I wonder how this will turn out."

probably about as well as when they said they were going to "kill" sony at E3.

nix1546d ago

i think that's what Albert Penello thinks. i think i don't think so.

@JokesOnYou:

I think the jokes on you.

AzureskyZ1546d ago

@ Jokes so im assuming you have both system and played both system to make that assessment?

mistertwoturbo1546d ago

lol yeah

"Hey we're 100% sure we are better. I think."

KazHiraiFTW1546d ago

b..b..but its got tha powar of tha cloud!

NateCole1545d ago

I think not. At least with the PS3 i got a blu-ray player. There is nothing ground breaking that is in the x1 that has over the PS4 to warrant the $100 extra.

gaffyh1545d ago

Obviously they are going to say this, they're not going to say PS4 is better because that would make no sense business-wise.

The_Con-Sept1545d ago

If "it" is worth 100 more than PS4... Then a launch model PlayStation 3 is worth 100 more than "it."

Smkt1545d ago

it COSTS $100 more.. I'll be the judge of whether its worth it or not after both the consoles launch this fall.

scott1821545d ago

@ n4rc

That is good Micro isn't stupid enough to believe what they offer is more valuble, I would be concerned for them if they did. Obviously they understand that they don't offer anything superior to Sony.... Good to know.

kungfuian1545d ago

More like the PlayStation 4 is worth $100 more than X1 and $100 cheaper

UltimateMaster1545d ago

It is totally worth it.
Otherwise, people would not be buying it.
still getting a PS4 since I prefer the PS3.

keabrown791545d ago

@skips, that has nothing to demand and everything to do with how many are available.

Skizelli1545d ago (Edited 1545d ago )

"Wow! Even MS employees aren't totally sure about the value of it."

Not exactly. I think some people on N4G are complete idiots, and I'm pretty sure about it.

Withdreday1545d ago

@JokesOnYou

I totally expected to see "Hail Microsoft" signed at the end of the post. Seriously.

PeaSFor1545d ago

"i think" "i think" "i think" ....

uh.....thats pretty insecure for a MS PR

"I think our games are better." since when? because MS got totally raped in term of good exclusive games by Sony and it will be the same thing with the ps4.

TheFamous11545d ago

haha I know right.. as a consumer this is pretty bad messaging.

dantesparda1545d ago

"Microsoft: Xbox One is worth $100 more than PlayStation 4"

Umm, no its not MS, inferior hardware for more money is not worth it. Especially when Sony destroys you in 1st party support and i could care less about that crappy camera of yours. The thing barely even performs better than the first overpriced one. Bu t

dantesparda1545d ago

"Microsoft: Xbox One is worth $100 more than PlayStation 4"

How is paying a $100 more for an inferior product with inferior 1st party support, worth more? Oh why cuz of that crappy Kinect camera? No thank you, you can keep that crap. I'd rather save the hundred

SecondSon1544d ago

Exactly did he use that many "I think"s when he applied for his job at Microsoft?

I think I am good at managing multiple teams,
I think I know what our consumers want,
I think I have good negotiation skills,
I think I can be persuasive.

O.o

We have better training courses available for public speaking at the half a billion organisation I work for.

SecondSon1544d ago

Microsoft is losing touch with their consumers, Windows 8, Windows Phone, Xbox One...

They need to start building things that inspire us. They need to draw a clear picture for what their view of the future is and how they will take us to it.

There is a great presentation about how leaders can inspire others to follow them
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

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Enemy1546d ago (Edited 1546d ago )

A weaker console with a NSA spy cam and power brick is worth more than the PS4 lmao. Sony's 1st parties alone makes the Xbox One practically worthless in comparison. When those GOTY contenders/winners from Sony start appearing in 2014, and Microsoft has no more right to demand timed exclusives from EA, they'll be left with nothing but Halo and Forza.

History repeats itself yet again.

Rhinoceros1546d ago (Edited 1546d ago )

Enough with the spycam nonsense please...

http://www.ign.com/articles...

EDIT

@Maria

1. DirectX 11.2 is a Windows 8.1 and Xbox One Exclusive.
Source: http://www.tomshardware.com...

2. At the Hot Chips even, Microsoft showed the GPU (GPU 1 of 2 if rumors are true) This GPU uses DirectX 11.1+
Source: http://www.extremetech.com/...

3. There is a unboxing video by OXM (Official Xbox Magazine) there is something in one of the corners of the X1. The guy making the video said it's covering specs that MS doesn't want them to reveal
Source: http://www.youtube.com/watc...

4. The website SemiAccurate recently published an article about the XBOX One GPU and the Hot Chips event. This is what they said. "SemiAccurate knows that there are several important sub-systems in the XBO that are not on the diagrams or in the talk but we are not sure if the 15 count includes them or not."
Source: http://semiaccurate.com/201...

5. A LinkedIn account for a AMD GPU Design Verification Engineer, this is in there:
Graphics Core IP Design Verification,APU/DGPU
Xbox One,Playstation 4
Source: http://www.linkedin.com/in/...

6. The Xbox One SOC is actually bigger than what MS said.
Source: http://misterxmedia.livejou...

7. A slide from an AMD presentation, saying FUTURE TRENDS: APU+dGPU. If you don't know what an APU is, it's a term used by AMD, it includes a CPU and GPU in one. Which is what the Xbox and PS4 are using.
Source: http://ic.pics.livejournal....

8. Multiple Devs saying that there will be a difference between the next gen consoles. NFS's dev, Ubisoft dev, and Titanfall dev saying that Xbox One graphics will be on par with PC graphics.
Source: Google it ;) there are multiple ones.

So now your asking "Why can't MS just come out and say this? Well, according to an Insider, there is a NDA (Non Disclosure Agreement) Between AMD-INTEL and Sony (Intel is involved because Intel and AMD cross license the x86 architecture). This NDA is supposed to end on September 29th. That's when MS should start talking.

Also you a lot of the experiences you listed as "both" should be skewed toward the biggest software company in the world. Just a thought - stay beautiful, babe.

Lulz_Boat1546d ago

hey rhinonoob, regards point number 6#

you know that in tech, bigger != better???

Bigger only mean more heat and failure rate...
WELCOME TO 2006!!!! LOOL

Loki861546d ago (Edited 1546d ago )

Rhino post facts and links and gets downvoted, I see this site has gone back to being completely worthless to have an opposing opinion.

Each person has their own reason for buying the console of their choice and shouldn't be berated because of it, grow up.

Gimmemorebubblez1546d ago (Edited 1546d ago )

@Rhinoceros

PS4 has DirectX 11.2+OpenGL 4.4 and a Sony custom API feature set aswell as amore advanced shader pipeline add this with a 600 gigaflop difference in GPU raw power, 18 CU's on PS4 vs 12 on Xbone, hUMA vs ?????, 8 ACE's on Ps4 vs 2 on Xbox One plus superior RAM, it is quite obvious the one system is superior to the other.
See this image from Sony's Gamestop Presentation. Sorry image won't attach...see it in this thread in the first post.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

Angeljuice1545d ago (Edited 1545d ago )

@Rhino
That sounds impressive, so they must have won "best hardware" category at gamescom then surely? Oh wait a minute....

Sony uses an equivalent to DirectX 11.2 that has all the features but allows coding closer to the metal, so thats not really an advantage either.
Oh well, at least Microsoft have better devs and a more appealing price point..... Whoops, my mistake.

pyramidshead1545d ago

lol @ Rhino

More and more xbots continually fleeing to their livejournal blog to copy and paste the mad scientist's theories I see.

Wasn't the insider on that site the one who was confident that the XB1 would be showcasing Bf4 at PAX this weekend with 1080p60fps + 64 players?
What a surprise they turned out wrong right? Top lels.

johndoe112111545d ago

@ Rhinoceros

Ok, so, I feel compelled to respond to your fanaticism. First off, All those hidden specs and additional features you were touting are not going to make it a power house over sony. Why do I say that? Because if you watch any of Marc Cerney's videos where he is talking about the ps4, and by the way he is the guy who designed the thing, you would hear when he says that when developing for the ps4 it would be easy to learn but difficult to master.

Why did he say that? Because he has also stated on a number of occasions that the internal components of the ps4 have been highly customized and it will be some time before developers will be able to unlock the full potential of the system.

Both companies have aces up their sleeves neither of them are different in that aspect. The difference with sony is that they aren't going around trying to make their system look like a mystical box with hidden magical power. You need to understand microsoft is lagging behind, BADLY. They need to do and say whatever they can so people wouldn't think that they are highly inferior to sony, which I'm not saying they are because I don't know enough about hardware to make that assumption.

One thing I will say though, my money is on sony for the more powerful system with the better hidden features. Why? Because sony is a hardware company, microsoft is not. It's like goodyear going into the car manufacturing business and trying to compete with Toyota or Audi. I'm not saying they can't make a good vehicle but they would be going up against seasoned veterans of the business.

Sony is smart, they don't need to convince anyone of the hidden features of their system just yet because they are ahead. That will come in the future when they are ready to show us games like U4, LOU2, GOW4 or Motorstorm 4.

johndoe112111545d ago (Edited 1545d ago )

@ Rhinoceros

Oh, and concerning that NDA you mentioned, once microsoft didn't sign that, nothing and no one could stop them from mentioning anything about the tech in their system. An NDA only has power over the people who signed it and based on what you stated, microsoft didn't sign it.

scott1821545d ago

@ Rhinoceros

wtf @ "stay beautiful, babe"

walkincarpet1545d ago

I think I agree with you that history repeats itself. PS4 will have a slight edge in graphical capability and more exclusives, while X1 will be better in every other category. However, this time around X1 is improving first party exclusives and even better than Sony initially, but I don't doubt that Sony will catch up quickly.

keabrown791545d ago

@Enemy "NSA spy cam" how's that tinfoil hat holding up?

keabrown791545d ago

@Walkincarpet.. exactly! PS3 was technically a more powerful console then the 360 overall but yet that didn't stop 360 for dominating the US market. This gen is the same with the PS4 being more powerful then the Xbox One. I think the situation will be the same. Advertisement and forum wars only do so much when all of your friends migrate from 360's to Xbox Ones, you tend to follow because at the end of the day people want to play with their friends.

Skizelli1545d ago

Lol at the people who make a huge deal about a console's specs. Apparently you guys didn't learn anything from this generation.

Mikeyy1545d ago

@Rhinoceros

What an absolute joke you are.

Seriously... wait till the 29th, and poof? The Xbox one magically gets a second GPU and double the performance?

You are more delusional than greenpwrz.

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LOGICWINS1546d ago

What else are they going to say? That its NOT worth more than a PS4. Its PR, nothing more.

Godmars2901546d ago

This maybe the one time I've actually seen you use actual logic.

I'm frightened...

AngelicIceDiamond1546d ago

Well, Sony says something similar and their PR is never questioned.

otherZinc1543d ago

Rhinoceros is right.

@john doe11211,
Since Marc Cerny helped create the powerful PS4; why is the game he developed ( Knack ) not 1080p "native" @ 60fps? That's a SONY dev right?

Turn 10 a M$ dev has Forza 5 at 1080p "native @ 60fps!

In fact, "No" PS4 game is running 1080p "native" @ 60fps!

MariaHelFutura1546d ago (Edited 1546d ago )

Not really, Imo.

Specs: PS4
Multiplats:PS4
Restrictions: PS4
F2P: PS4
Price: PS4
Exclusive Devs: PS4
TV: Both
Camera w/ Voice Recognition: Both
Preorders: PS4
Polls: PS4
Recording Time: PS4
Friendlist: PS4
Countries Available: PS4
Headset Options: PS4
Controller: PS4 (does require AA's or accessories)
Indie Support: PS4
Consistancy: PS4

Enemy1546d ago

As usual, have a bubble.

M-M1546d ago

It's amazing how accurate all of that is lol.

ABeastNamedTariq1546d ago

You're on point Maria, I won't even lie.

mafiahajeri1546d ago

You forgot...

batteries for controller: Xbox One

Rimeskeem1546d ago

dont forget that the camera can be used for commentary too so thats out of the way

Shadowolf1546d ago

Wow Maria, that is some list. By the way, I know the PS4 has spectator mode which Shuhei Yoshida demonstrated at Gamescom however, I've yet to see or hear that it has been confirmed for the Xbox One.

Does the Xbox One have spectate mode?

Rhinoceros1546d ago

1. DirectX 11.2 is a Windows 8.1 and Xbox One Exclusive.
Source: http://www.tomshardware.com...

2. At the Hot Chips even, Microsoft showed the GPU (GPU 1 of 2 if rumors are true) This GPU uses DirectX 11.1+
Source: http://www.extremetech.com/...

3. There is a unboxing video by OXM (Official Xbox Magazine) there is something in one of the corners of the X1. The guy making the video said it's covering specs that MS doesn't want them to reveal
Source: http://www.youtube.com/watc...

4. The website SemiAccurate recently published an article about the XBOX One GPU and the Hot Chips event. This is what they said. "SemiAccurate knows that there are several important sub-systems in the XBO that are not on the diagrams or in the talk but we are not sure if the 15 count includes them or not."
Source: http://semiaccurate.com/201...

5. A LinkedIn account for a AMD GPU Design Verification Engineer, this is in there:
Graphics Core IP Design Verification,APU/DGPU
Xbox One,Playstation 4
Source: http://www.linkedin.com/in/...

6. The Xbox One SOC is actually bigger than what MS said.
Source: http://misterxmedia.livejou...

7. A slide from an AMD presentation, saying FUTURE TRENDS: APU+dGPU. If you don't know what an APU is, it's a term used by AMD, it includes a CPU and GPU in one. Which is what the Xbox and PS4 are using.
Source: http://ic.pics.livejournal....

8. Multiple Devs saying that there will be a difference between the next gen consoles. NFS's dev, Ubisoft dev, and Titanfall dev saying that Xbox One graphics will be on par with PC graphics.
Source: Google it ;) there are multiple ones.

So now your asking "Why can't MS just come out and say this? Well, according to an Insider, there is a NDA (Non Disclosure Agreement) Between AMD-INTEL and Sony (Intel is involved because Intel and AMD cross license the x86 architecture). This NDA is supposed to end on September 29th. That's when MS should start talking.

MariaHelFutura1546d ago (Edited 1546d ago )

Of course the games. Since this generation is just getting started let's look at the games for the last 3 years of the PS3 and Xbox 360 to get a better idea of the long term platform support of these companies.
http://forums.digitalwarfar...

@Rhinoceros

The PS4 is powered by specs, reality and talent, NOT dreams, aspirations, theoretical equations, back tracking or fantasies.

First it was wait for the reveal, then wait for E3, then wait for the Microsoft Dev Conference, then wait for Gamescom, now it's wait for them to remove the NDA..... Got it.

Skips1546d ago (Edited 1546d ago )

"How about games?"

Pretty sure that falls under "Exclusive devs", "Indie support", and better "Muliplats". lol

corvusmd1546d ago

So wrong and lost it's ridiculous, I'd argue logic with you, but it seems like medicine for the dead

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AngelicIceDiamond1546d ago

@Maria Wh.. what?

On some of those I agree but some of the others like consistency what's that suppose to mean?

Both have headsets bundled. And the controller is subjective.

Both don't have DRM. Your all over the damn place.

Whatever, your loyal worshippers bubbled you up anyway.

N4SF News 4 Sony Fans boys.

FamilyGuy1546d ago

This whole topic should have ended after this post.

Well said indeed!+