More than just a GPU with a cache This story is the second portion of SemiAccurate’s look at the XBox One’s architecture as presented at the Hot Chips 25 conference
Don't worry like Frigid's BS came to be BS.... All evidence point to this also being the same.
On the contrary..this is based on the info that MS divulged at hotchips. No BS.I did not submit this article to play N4G conjecture games. These are the cold hard facts. They are not saying one is better than the other..they are simply telling you how the X1 works. I submitted this and the previous one to shut up all the BS that gets thrown around on here which is usually based on rumour and conjecture.wouldnt you agree its better to debate the X1s specs with all the facts? EDIT:@kayant no worries! but yes, ignore that guy.
Sorry I was referring to the info Elite24Gamer posts :p.
@The realness The problem is that on N4G, nobody wants to know and talk about the One's specs unless: 1. They're seemingly less impressive than the PS4's 2. They have some special technology or advancement that can be called a gimmick or "PR jargon".
Sadly and unfortunately you will never stop all the BS rumours, and made up nonsense on here.
Yeah, I've never come across on anything about a discreet GPU.
Trust a website that is named semiaccurate sigh T-T
HAHAHAHAH! I just saw that too.
@strigoi814 Now that was the biggest douchbag statement I have heard in awhile. YOU SAID: "Trust a website that is named semiaccurate sigh T-T" Don't you know anything about hardware websites? 1, The name is a PLAY on words, Semi is from the word semicondoctor. Accurate is to show accuracy, the exact opposite of what your implying. 2, 99.9% of misleading marketing is based on insinuating/assumptions, and names. 3, Politicians fool the public by the name they call a policy or even a congressional bill. Ever hear of the patriot acts? Ever hear of the no child left behind bill that left millions behind by CUTTING school funding? 4 you=www.douchbag.com 5 Your comment tells me you are fooled 99.99999% of the time in life and never figure it out. Thats right this is just a conspiracy theory put your head back in the sand osterich!!
I do find it funny that he won't trust an established website that it simply reporting facts that were put out there...but I bet any random Sony fanboy that bashes XB1 is to be trusted.
affected much?? Lolz
It was sarcasm.
Yes, a terrible one at that too!
At least they admit they aren't always right via title and don't try to call themselves " The Truth" and then lie about everything. Message not the messenger
Was reading on neogaf last night that the gpu might actually be a duel gpu.
That would be people dreaming. My understanding is those things are really expensive (unless Microsoft has decided to make a gigantic loss that will never happen; in any console)
What we know is that most of what comes out of neogaf is the truth so it could be real
^ ^ ^ LMAO! Yeah, sure buddy. There isn't any dGPU...
It's highly unlikely they have a dual GPU on the same die as the CPU.
Possible, if you go back to the xbox 720 roadmap that was taken down by Microsoft their is a 22nm SoI that has yet to be confirrmed. Could be another APU or GPU.
STOP with this crap...PLEASE!
please point me to a credible poster on NeoGaf that said anything about a dual gpu??
Mef you can go and research all this info. You know its out their from the leaked vgleaks diagram to the leaked MS roadmap so quit trying to down play it.
PS3/360 - 4.4 GIGAPIXEL WII U - 6 - GIGAPIXEL XBOX ONE - 13.1 GIGAPIXEL PS4 - 25.6 GIGAPIXEL
lets be honest...do YOU even know what that means? can YOU explain the benefits and weakness of each console without parroting numbers you have seen thrown around on the internet. All your post shows is that your smart enough to know a higher number means better. But you cannot elaborate in your own words. [email protected] This article is based on MS hotchips presentation, so yes this is coming from MS, mouth. Semi accurate are simply explaining what they saw at the presentation.
@The realness "lets be honest...do YOU even know what that means? can YOU explain the benefits and weakness of each console without parroting numbers you have seen thrown around on the internet. " This times a million. Seriously, the sheer number of software and hardware engineers on this site is baffling (around 96% at last count). I don't know why Microsoft and Sony didn't just hire the members of N4G to create their new consoles. And I guarantee they'd make the Sony console better than the Microsoft one.
A high number does not always mean better, you need to look at the whole system and how it works together to see what it can do. In other words both systems will have fantastic games on them. And all these copy and past trolls should really be thrown out of here.
Not knowing what any of it means : priceless
Okay Dr. Sheldon Cooper, please tell us all what this means? Enlighten us all with your google prowess
Microsoft needs to confirm these specs once and for all and put a knife into the "rumors" and speculations. Its time for brass tax, and I must be convinced if Xbox is truly next gen, Xbox has better Exclusives PS4 has better hardware If Xbox has an ace up their sleeve they best come out with it so I can make the jump.
*launch exclusives* and that's subjective because as of right now they just have a bit more. A man would remind you that the number of first party exclusives coming as each company themselves have stated is 15 for Xbox and 20 for PS4 in the first year.
A man would then tell you that said company had better be more forthcoming about what these said games will be so that certain gamers can be saited to just wait for these exclusives. Also side note, Jaqen Hagar rules. Love the RP. :P
@strigoi814 "Trust a website that is named semiaccurate" It seems you have never been to the site before, if you would have you would know they are one if not one of the most respected Hardware review sites on the entire [email protected] enternet! the experience of its core member's are many years and in some cases decades of experience in this dicipline! http://semiaccurate.com/abo... people tend to listen to their reviews. @Kuse Microsoft needs to confirm these specs once and for all and put a knife into the "rumors" and speculations. this is confirmation! this is the official specs for the chip's, that's why this was @ Hotchips see key words: Hot Chips 25 conference SemiAccurate’s look at the XBox One’s architecture as presented at the Hot Chips 25 conference.
I appreciate the sentiment but it makes me curious as to why this information isn't being touted in a more mainstream format. I'd like to see Xbox be more aggressive on that front then instead of being mum about it.
@Kuse " I'd like to see Xbox be more aggressive on that front then instead of being mum about it." " being mum about it" ? wait, are you saying Microsoft is not putting out info about the xboxone enough in the news medium? Hot Chips is an IEEE sponsored technological symposium which is held every year in August on Stanford University campus since 1989. this is about showing how the system works, many people really want to just play the system, which Microsoft wants to show off more than explaining how it works. Microsoft is showing its chipset and how it works if you want to see it. but getting the system in the market showing off the games is more important. There will be plenty of time to show in more depth the thing's that the system can do, that will of course take time.
@Kuse: You want MS to confirm the specs, but when they show it to you all you will see is, this number is higher and that number is lower. Point is, those things don't tell the story, no more than people that high bandwidth on their internet thinks their online gaming experiencd will be lag free i.e. they where fooled by the wrong numbers and don't understand the technology. If you wanted to know, you would have known about the symposium, what it stands for and why MS presented it there instead of two internet educated engineers. Specs are useless without the games, and the Ryse seems one of the best if not the best looking game on next generation console. On the flip side, all Sony did was talk how great their choices are, and thrown out some specs. Time for them to open up and tell us what they have done!
I'm glad you said this, cause I was about to. It's funny how when something is bad news about the XB1 or good news about PS4...no matter how much of a rumor it is....it becomes internet "fact" If it's the other way around we need like 20 sources of proof before it's believed..and then once it is, it's randomly dismissed as unimportant.
There is still a lot that has not been released yet as they say in both articles by Charlie on Semiaccurate. MS is still in a Non Disclosure Agreement with AMD until Sept. 29 so some details of the chip cannot not be revealed yet. That being said the Xbox One is looking better all the time.
I getting dizzy reading these specs again and again. Both consoles will be capable of displaying anything a developer can imagine. But in the end one of them will get quite a few more games than the other. I'm going to go for the one with the most games.
I'm starting to like the hardware. I hope the Xbone is just as powerful as PS4 so we don't get crappy ports. I will buy PS4 first because of price and maybe I will get Xbone after a price drop. I'm not rich
"I will buy PS4 first because of price and maybe I will get Xbone after a price drop. I'm not rich" Similar plan for me, but I might not necessarily wait for a price drop. Certain "things" are in progress for me that MIGHT make it possible to get an XB1 not too long afterwards. I'll just see how things go.
Planning a trip to Peru are we? Don't forget to put a doughnut in your hair, they'll never suspect a thing!
If the rumors are true and there will be dual GPU , that could make the hardware of the Xbox One have an advantage compared to the PS4
Look if this was true wouldn't Microsoft be talking about it or even hinting at it. Unless Microsoft is run by a bunch of gibbons they wouldn't ignore this point. They wouldn't let the PS4 get some kind of PR momentum especially when Pre-orders are important. Microsoft have even claimed themselves that the PS4 specs are "meaningless" and games and experiences are more important. If what you said was true they wouldn't say that. Making it a dual GPU isn't something that could have been done since E3. That would have been planned months previously Source: http://n4g.com/news/1292166...
...unless the NDA disallows that reveal so that MS doesn't steal AMD's thunder for their Kaveri build...
Not saying the rumors of a dual gpu are true but it was one of the very 1st rumors that came out. And Microsoft has gave out many different dev kits for Xbox One
For all those that say two GPU´S;jesus see the scheme it only shows one graphic core!!Some people must check the eyes thats for sure because they are seeing double.Dont you people think that if for ever reason that was true M$ will had already talk about it to gain market share!!Its not like they are selling THE X1 better than the PS4 for all i and smart people know.
They should say screw it and put in 6 GPU's all Titan's and take a 4k loss on each system sold and when the investers ask why such a huge profit loss on every system sold MS just says Shove it! we got the power!
the games shown so far look quite good..its still up to the developers to utilise this properly.
I'm 100% tech fan and this is awesome and impressive hope Sony shows there real colors and shares there gpu specs so that we can really compare themif not we be in the blind side of the receiving end and all will be one sided.
if devs like nfs rivals already said that the ps4 as better hardware why are these rumors popping up when they are the ones with the systems..
They didn't say that. They said one system surprised them by being stronger than expected, which many took to mean PS4. Let's just see on September 29, shall we?
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