The recent announcement of the Nintendo 2DS means it's game over for the PlayStation Vita.
One thing this article doesn't factor in is the possibility the remote play feature will have on sales of the Vita. It is risky but the potential pay off for Sony could be huge (if advertised correctly) edit: I do personally think this will be the last handheld we see from Sony but only because I see them, in a few years, moving to a tablet or phones that could do the same/similar functions via Gaikai. This market is shrinking and these systems are being sold at a lower price (every time) to compensate the effect of the mobile market. The only logical move for Sony is to broaden the install base via Gaikai and tablets/phones
the 3/2DS is becoming the PS2 of the handheld market but the Vita can still carve a niche like the N64 and original Xbox, in Japan Vita games regularly feature in the top charts because it has great attach rate.
YEAH!! NINTENDO IS GOING TO CRUSH THE PS VITA!!! ... With that ugly piece of sh*t? Seriously, couldn't you have considered a price drop of the 3DS instead? I highly recommend going with the 3DS over the 2DS. I'm still have both handhelds, so I'm cool with what I've got. With the PS Vita, you can use Remote Play to access your PS4 and PS3 at a distance over the Internet. And you can use it as a cross-controller and use the PS Vita's technology and implement it in a PS4/PS3 game, but that varies with the game developer whereas the Remote Play is available for all games.
The 3DS isn't as cool as the PS2 though Lol. God forbid playing that tiny thing in public..
to me the 2DS is really confusing and if its confusing to me what do you think of the mass market? Same cunfusion with the WiiU should of called it Wii2 would be less confusing to general public, now if there is a 3ds a 2ds seems backwards confusions repeat.
Well, yeah, the 2DS is a step back from the 3DS because, not only you can't fold it and it's less portable than the 3DS or a tablet, but apparently also removes the 3D option for games. You can turn the 3DS off on the 3DS, so I really don't see how the 2DS is a good thing at all. The only good thing is the price point of 130$, but I can get a better tablet for that price. That thing just looks like a huge brick, not portable at all. Like I said, buy the 3DS instead of the 2DS. The Vita's recent price drop to 200$ makes it a must buy as well. Then you've got the best of both worlds.
@ Transporter47 ... Next up... The 1DS? with one and a half screen same features?
"One thing this article doesn't factor in is the possibility the remote play feature" No iamnsuperman he did consider that, did you read it? "The system has still yet to receive a killer app, and with how its being marketed recently, it seems we’ll never get one as the device will serve as a mini-PS4. Now, that’s a cool idea, but will people shell out a total of $600 for a new console and the ability to take their games with them (if they’re cross-save)? Absolutely not." "They’re excited over the connectivity features that it will have with upcoming PS4 titles. They’re also excited about potential bundles and the recent $50 price drop. These are all great things, but they won’t sell the system." I just think the truth is unless you sell a cheap handheld for kids without a cell phone and aren't willing to buy an expensive tablet the dedicated handheld is no longer attractive must have gadget it used to be, Nintendo just has a dedicated niche audience and kids who love those cute Nintendo games.
I thought the Game and Watch is the 1DS. 2DS looks kinda bulky and looks like the cheap handhelds that were made in China.
The main reason I want I ps vita is remote play. And if enough games are supporting it then I will purchase 1. DS is never on my radar.
every game will have remote play.sony is not leaving it up to the devs. they realized devs didnt want to hassle with that so now sony is doing it themselves so 100% of ps4 games will have remote play
All games should work with Remote Play except games that require the camera since this time it will be a OS feature and not a feature that needs to be implemented by devs.
Buy it for the games lol.
@sincity In that case the vita just took the xboxones #2 spot in my wishlist
The fact that Vita success hinges on remote play is a tell tell sign that the handheld is in bad shape. Also "remote play" will cannibalize Vita's future software sales. Vita is in desperate need for unique tailored made games that you can't play on no other system.
Honestly if they did a Xperia Play type of phone the right way it would be amazing.
Hasta la Vita baby . . ahh ha haa haaa haaa . . Ahhhh haa haa haaa haaaaaaaaaaa!!!
I'LL BE BACK.
talk to the hand
O the contrary, I see the future of PlayStation consoles and handheld going mobile. Sony will push the PS Vita and its successor as a portable PS4. With the whole Indie games initiative I believe Sony is making a real portable PS4 to succeed the PS Vita. Minecraft on PS Vita will be huge.
I'm looking forward to picking up a vita with my PS4, I like the connectivity, and it will be nice to play minecraft where ever you want.
looks like a kids toy
the author needs to stop misquoting me, ill sue! its hasta la vista baby.
Yeah, and shouldn't it have been hasta la vita baby? That would have worked much better for the title!
vita needs to get pumped up now danny
so let me get this straight just because nintendo is releasing a newer version at a cheaper price he believe the vita wont continue to sell? gaming media are some of the most retarded people on this planet. anyone who knows this industry knows that no one is beating nintendo in the handheld space, but for another company to create a device that goes on to sell between 60-80 million that's damn impressive in my book. the vita will continue to sell, and will probably end up with similar sales figures or fall a little short by 5-10 million again that's more than anyone thought with nintendo basically owning this particular market. what else i find funny is he thinks zelda sells 10 million units with each release. pokemon didnt kill the PSP and it wont kill the vita. there is plenty of space for two different handheld systems.
Zelda has never been that big of a franchise in the first place in terms of sales Lol. These fanboy "journalists" are out of touch with reality
@abortmission yeah you're right. as big as zelda is to some people its not that great in terms of sales which this the author of the article only cares about.
This article's title confuses and infuriates me!
I expect at least 50 comments in 20 min
This isn't news. It's a fanyboy rant. I'd prefer an objective reporting of the 2DS rather than trying to put another system down.
Agreed. As someone who owns both a PS Vita and a 3DS, this new 2DS is just...laughable. The form/shape is not practical at all, and the lack of 3D pretty much means Nintendo is admitting it isn't a worthwhile feature. While the $129.99 pricetag is nice, the Vita offers so much more at $199 without skipping on features. And as others said, PS4 remote play + PS Plus are two very strong reasons to consider the PS Vita. But yeah, the shape of the 2DS is just wrong. Seriously Nintendo, I thought you could do better than that. Honestly, how am i supposed to carry that around without a bag or satchel of some sort?
i feel like the 3ds only came about because nintendo feels like the vita is a threat. although i know the vita is a niche product atm i feel nintendo made a bad move. i know they made a different looking 2ds because they didnt want people confusing it with a 3ds but with so many handheld products out there, the general pop will get confused...until they see the price that is.
@SynGamer You're right, the 2DS is not very portable, makes you wonder why couldn't they add another stick if they were already making it ugly. Guess their next handheld will be some sort of tablet. My 11 year old cousin wants one now, but the sound is mono unless you use a headphone and I can't use one for a very long time, I'd rather just buy an XL and maybe a vita if it comes with the PS4.
"Patrick has been writing about games since 2012..." Yeah... this show how good this article is...don't read, this is just crap talk.
It will be an up hill battle for Vita.
Good. Now Sony will start doing what they should have been doing from jump such as localizing JRPGs and drowning Vita with exclusive first party AAA content.
Hope so man we rlly dont know to much beyond killzone,terraway and indie games for Vita.
What a joke article! The vita wont catch the 3ds unless some kind of miracle were to happen, but that doesnt mean it cant find success. The vita has already proved to me that its a great device to own and with remote play, upcoming games/already released games, and some untapped potential the vita can find success and become an even better device in time. Also Rayman legends gameplay that Ive seen looks amazing on the vita....another + for the vita.
i agree with you, and if devs stopped being so douchy, and released some new and creative games for it they'd see there is a market for their games on the system.
IMO, Sony has always known that they couldn't outsell the Nintendo handhelds. However, they did hope to find success. Success to them is simply gaining market share and carving a niche in the handheld arena. They did that extremely well with the PSP and there is still room in the market for Vita to do the same. With the price drop and the connection to PS4, the only thing left to do is to re-advertise...which will probably happen during the holidays along with the PS4 blitz.
I would like to see a spec. comparison of the Vita and the 2ds. If Sony could get Gaikai on the Vita, with all those PS2 games, now that would be awesome.
this article (if you could even call it that) stinks of bias.
Why can't they make a PS4/Vita
I got spit on my screen from scoffing too fast. No, it's not the end, the PS4 is going to sell Vita's and vice versa. They aren't trying to occupy the same space anymore. Sony, by advertising it as the must have PS4 companion and the Indie Game Platform is targeting different people than Nintendo is now. It's probably their best option regardless.
Sony aren't even trying to outsell the 3DS. If they were, they wouldn't have made the Vita so powerful.
its a niche hardcore product. youre correct sir. i doubt a game such as killzone would ever come to the 3ds. altho resident evil was pretty gruesome on the 3ds.
The PS3 was in the same situation as the Vita, but look at it now, it's a badass console ! Sony doesn't drops support that easily, because for them it isn't a sprint but a marathon. Nintendo sprinted all their games to the 3DS and the Vita marathon has yet to be brighter. Bigger games takes time.
i like how you think ^_^ and always right on the spot
*Yeah cause I often chat in the Vita group chat ;)
Different audiences for different devices. There is no doubt that both have very good games and are good devices, but the Vita will get a nice boost in sales as a companion device for the PS4. The 2DS isn`t aimed at the same audience that would buy a Vita, it`s aimed at kids. Who would give their small kid a Vita to play around and possibly break?
Can the 2ds play Killzone, LBP Vita or is Borderlands 2 launching on it? How about remotely play PS4 games at a system level? NO PS Vita is not dead to this gamer and I have a hunch many more like me will soon see the true Vita potential unlocked as Killzone the and PS4 launch!
I have seen people buying it recently who never had it on their radar because of the price drop and the remote play with PS4.
can it run crysis? "it" being the 2DS...
Hhahaha, lol. The 2ds is a joke.
i wish i could agree a million times
dont call it a joke!!! its a door stopper too!!! hows that? lol ^_^
Yeah, such a joke that it's crush the vita in sales.
I mean no disrespect to the 3ds, but the 2ds looks ridiculous. The 3ds fits in your hands. The Vita fits in your hands. But look at the 2ds... It's a big square with a thumbstick and buttons on the sides. Not exactly the most portable handheld :)
how so? because most of the articles i've seen so far have been about what a piece of crap the 2DS is...
I just bought a vita since the price drop with play station plus it's amazing value and utility. STRONGLY recommend!
Haha, you strongly recommend now, just wait until PS4 is released :)
So all day long Nintendrones have been making a point, that the 2DS is for kids under 7 years old, who can´t handle the 3DS...now how again is this going to affect the PS Vita?
Because there are also adults who are "under 7 years" at heart and in terms of gaming tastes and budget appeal. That $ 40 dollars can get you about a months meal depending on w/c country you live (yes there are still poor gaming addicts w/c companies wouldn't mind exploiting). Even if it will release only in 1st world countries, it can easily fit in the market due to the price point (get another game instead for 40 bucks/don't care for 3D). Very smart of Nintendo to give another option for a different bracket.
That's gotta be the weakest rationale I've seen for the 2DS thus far.
Because kids buy the vita too? There is nothing mature about the vita.
Clearly you're the the gold standard for immaturity.
Another attempt to compare apples and oranges
this article make no sense whats to ever
Except there's tons of gamers out there that have no interest in a Nintendo handheld. PSP sold 80m and is considered a failure. Vita could do the same and still be considered a failure by DS fanboys...
By those numbers the NES is a flop at 60 million lol.