EA: Battlefield outsold Call of Duty in certain EU countries, we're "slamming" them with new innovation
Well that is the reason why I would like to see Battlefield outdo COD in general...at least DICE push themselves to make Battlefield better unlike COD where they think the stuff they are adding now is "innovation" and "next gen worthy" when really it's not
I hate CoD and I used to love battlefield. But the jump from BF3 to BF4 is pretty cod-ish to me.
Ever thought that it might because they thought having Battlefield 4 to go along side next gen and their improved Frostbite engine would be better "sales wise" then doing Bad Company 3 for the start of next gen
I will probably pick up Killzone Shadow Fall day one and wait to see if BF4 is truly unique. I also wish it was Bad Company 3 but they have other plans.
How so? The only comparison I'd make is that they both have Team Deathmatch.
You're right in one way. BF4 is what BF3 should've been. CoD Ghosts however, just shows that Activision never learn.
I really don't think you have been paying much attention to all the new stuff they are trying to give us. I mean, sure, it isn't a huge change, but why ruin a good thing right? And what did you want from them that would be such a drastic change?
I hate COD as much as the next guy but atleast there isn't a huge learning curve with COD, Ghosts will do better than BF4 guaranteed end of the day both are FPS only improving on their prior games, neither side is doing anything innovative BF4 isn't gonna sell 20 million COD isn't gonna sell less than 20 million
EA's estimates for BF4 are higher than BF3...and considering BF3 sold more than 17+ million units, reaching 20 million isn't out of the question.
This is what I've been hearing from people who have played the game. It's basically the same Battlefield 3 with slightly better graphics and destruction and scripted set piece destruction like the skyscraper falling and the ship crashing on shore in the new map. Of course there is now more naval focus in the game, which is more innovation than CoD is doing but really, neither game is doing anything too crazy.
Ill take bf over cod any day of the week
Sorry battlefield but... DOGZ!!!!
And FISH THAT MOVE OUT OF THE WAY WHEN YOU GET NEAR THEM!!!!!!!
I don't usually agree, but when I do it's because of a funny comment.
haha project spark has fish that WE can program to do anything we want!
Didn't the fish in Mario 64 move out the way?
When I saw the fish move, it was like the second coming of Jesus.
"Bloody Screen, so Real!!!"
Fish AI. That's all I have to say.
Fish AI jokes are getting a bit old now
CoD and "innovation" shouldn't be in the same line, far less the same paragraph. I appreciate the fact that people buy it, and play the life out of it. But even the most diehard CoD fans know that there hasn't been much innovation in CoD in a LONG time. Next gen systems give them an open door to be creative and do something new. From what I see of CoD: Ghost it looks like another title i won't be buying from that franchise.
the zombies game by Treyarch get better each DLC i have to admit... the latest one is actually pretty decent. the main MP though yeah that's just more of the same yearly
That is the only reason I buy cod for the zombies everything else is just trash
as nice as it is outselling them in a few countries, didn't COD completely outsell them in total numbers? i'll admit i buy both games and enjoy both games. They offer different experiences and hey that's all the best but it's a little petty saying "oh we beat them in these few countries"
Not by a lot. For some reason, Activision has been rather shy when it came to revealing overall sales numbers for Modern Warfare 3 AND Black Ops 2. EA has publicly revealed that BF3 has sold more than 17 million units to date, which is the closest any game has gotten to CoD numbers.
Really? Trash talk? Seems devs are just as bad as fanboys!
This isn't a dev but EA boss Frank Gibeau...a "suit," if ya will.
Even worse then.
If you read the interview he didn't really trash talk. He was just saying that Call of Duty is their main competitor and that of course they are going to try to out innovate them. Wasn't like he was saying, "Call of Duty sucks, Battlefield is better!".
It's not hard to out innovate COD, hell all you really have to do is use a new engine and bam you've out innovated COD.....And yet the PS4 and One80 are still getting the same 10 year old engine.
Remember before the cod multiplayer reveal they said "Call of Duty is more next gen than next gen" I then saw the calladoody dude vault over the barrier (whilst maintaing speed) and kill the enemy. I was blown away instantly Never in a calladoody have i seen a man vault over a barrier with such a stylish fashion. Guys that true next gen . No Battlefield has boats, ships, planes, jet skis, land vehicles. Calladoody have birds that chirp when you get next to them. Battlefield allows you to cut the power off on a building Calladoody has racist fish please people, purchase Battlefield 4
Battlefield's fun if you like giant maps and not enough vehicles.
It's called "balance" you nitwit. If everyone had a vehicle it would be a vehicular combat game only.
Yeah, we wouldn't want that. People might accidentally have fun. It's better the way it is, being sniped by someone camping on a mountain 5 minutes away.
it's called war buddy... and I'd like to add this is why COD is nothing like BF and why BF players appreciate what they're given. Sucks to be sniped, got to learn how to play so you're NOT sniped! It's NOT COD
@Megaton, not everyone likes using vehicles. In fact, most of the time when I play, the majority of players completely run passed unused vehicles. Infantry combat is simply more fun for a lot of people.
I like vehicles. BF1943 was the only one I ever really got into. Yeah, you still had to wait for airplanes among a group of other people waiting to grab it before you, but there were almost always enough land vehicles to go around. Most fun I had in BFBC1 and 2 was just blowing up structures at the base.
Some needs to stick to Call of Doodie....Thats obviously more up your alley....See in BF snipers actually get used like snipers, unlike that other dude bro game where it's hip to use a sniper from 2 ft away
Dice didnt give a funky sock about COD from 2002-2010. Then all of a sudden its BATTLEFIELDZ VS CALL O DOODY. ABOVE AND BEYOND THE CALL. Please DICE don't even acknowledge cod as competition and do your own thing.
DICE aren't the ones concerned about it. It's EA.
They are both in the linear of repetition...
I must have missed the innovations that BF4 brings. I will get both anyway, but by now BF is innovating as much as CoD. It has an updated engine that looks nicer and more destruction with new maps and vehicles. Not much new to see here.
Don't think you understand the complexities of a new engine. That alone is more innovation than CoD has done over the past 5 years. Plus have you seen the water physics in BF4?? It's crazy. I'm no FPS fanboy, but i gotta admit that was pretty cool to see in a MP map.
Please explain the complexities of the new engine other then the expected minor graphical improvements. Is there gameplay differences that I fail to see as a result of this new engine? I seem to be in the minority when reading comments on N4G. I don't expect BF4 or COD ghosts to be much different then past games. That's a good thing. I will buy both at launch for their own unique experience. To have them evolve into something else like most people seem to want isn't necessarily the best thing for each series.
@caper & orange the new water physics add three new gameplay elements:Underwater combat, Naval Combat ( ship vs ship) and Waves as cover (for stealth or to protect you're self. Leveloution drastically changes a section of the map causing players to change tactics. Both of those gameplay changes are possible because of Frostbite 3. Does this answer at least part of you're question?
It's an updated engine not a new engine. They updated Frostbite 2 and changed the number at the end. To a smaller extend you already could do ship to ship combat in the first BF and BF Vietnam with small boats. As for levolution it's still confined to what DICE sets to being destructable in the map, you cant destroy everything.
COD - I am very very very skeptical about this BF4 - From the footage seen - it honestly looks like BF3 with better graphics and thats it. Though I did feel BF3 took a step back on the majority of the BF3 maps. Many felt to COD'ish and small, perhaps to fit the PS3/360s 24-player count more which it did. BF BC2 had better maps overall and I am hoping that BF4 features more bigger maps now then in BF3. But overall BF4 gameplay looks to be the same to be honest We shall wait and see
i see these 2 games the same.. BF isn't battlefield like it used to be (BF1942-BF2) i don't know maybe it's just me but in BF3 i see something that is similiar to COD , i mean DICE brings Close Quarter Maps , TDM , Gun Master and Domination all these things doesn't match with BF. and it's a little bit fast paced than the old BF games maybe they choice this type of gameplay to gathering the COD audience...and i think BF3 outsells all BF games is because of ''Gathering COD players'' i've read in a interview that EA is obsessed with COD that EA wants the FPS crown but for me they are killing BF only to get the damn Crown... I don't know if i should Buy BF4 , but BF3 dissapointed me it was more easier to play you have Regenerated Health all these type of crap i don't remember in the old battlefield you have the regeneration health. Goodbye Battlefield and Fuck You COD over 90% gamedev make their game more easier and more like COD game and i don't understand this trend. and im sure that a lot of people on N4G and other gaming websites are falling in love with BF because it become more easy and it can be played by everybody so the game automatically sells well. be honest if BF remain like the old BF (1942-2) this game couldn't sell well because it's more challenging and more tactical / strategic
i love how people are saying BF isn't innovating and bringing up things COD does. DICE added those features to cater to all gamers and have it interesting for gamers who enjoy the style of COD. I can't say much for console BF3, but the PC was leaps and bounds better than any COD I have ever played. You truly HAVE to be stealth or you get flat out destroyed online. COD is run, run, run, run, stab, stab, stab, run, get lucky, run, stab, get lucky, run.
This is gonna be redonkulous, straight off the dizzle yo!
When titanfall goes multi platform no one will be playing either one of these games.
OF course you are slamming them you showed off your game on a 4000 dollar computers the TWO 7970s in the computer total little over a 1000 dollars each... OF course you game looks awesome... sure you can pull off more... but lets see what the game looks like on a 400 or 500 dollar systems with GPUs in the 100 dollar range...
ooooh, i love it when EA talks dirty to activision. they're like two latent homosexuals "wrestling" with each other.
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