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Xbox One's massive, custom CPU can pick you out of a lineup

The Xbox One chips are highly customized, Sell said. One significant change from the previous-generation Xbox 360 is that the graphics core is integrated with the CPU, as are most of today’s PCs chips. Sel referred to the GPU chip as a “DirectX 11.1+” chip, as it contains optimized graphics processing unique to the Xbox One. “There’s more than a CPU’s worth of processing in there,” Sell said. (Tech, Xbox One)

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NextGen24Gamer   392d ago | Off topic | show | Replies(11)
black0o   392d ago | Off topic | show | Replies(1)
GreenRanger  +   392d ago | Well said
I have no idea what any of this stuff means, and I really don't think I need to know.

Games > Specs.
Maddens Raiders   392d ago | Off topic | show | Replies(7)
GraveLord  +   392d ago
All it really means is that Xbox One can't be built from Newegg components. But we knew that already.

We're just getting better detail into how this console and its chips can work together. If you don't understand what's being said, don't comment. Most of these comments in the article are completely off-base.

To put it in simplest terms: Xbox One did not get a power boost.
nosferatuzodd  +   392d ago
lol you go Microsoft if you're system cant match up try win in other areas its like Sony said I'm the fastest runner and Microsoft said yeah but I'm the strongest i can lift 5billian transistors
MagnusX  +   391d ago
Recent reports state that it is 'stronger" but slower. How that incorporates into gameplay is yet to be seen.
UltimateMaster  +   391d ago
None of it is relevant until we see games using the technology.
Erdrick  +   391d ago
@MagnusX

i think "stronger" might mean more data is moved at a slower pace, whereas "faster" means less data is moved more quickly... which might equate to slower loading times of large maps vs faster loading times of small maps...?
NeutralXP  +   392d ago
Then why comment Here -1
waljaber  +   392d ago
O_O why am i here O_O
dcj0524  +   392d ago
Yes but better specs enhance those games. So you can have more immersive and bigger games. If a system has both games and specs then it is a win win. Specs are to allow games to push further. It's up to the developers if they want to push or not.
Heartnet  +   392d ago
specs dont enhance games lol... just cuz a game can look better doesnt make it more immersive...

hell take every indie game ever made the graphics on them arnt stellar but people seem to love them... and theyd run on current gen if not previous gen consoles..
Bluepowerzz  +   392d ago
LMAOOOOOOOOOOO this happened to me before a sony guy took me down when im a sony guy myself
timl241  +   391d ago
Games do mean more than specs, which is why the Xbox One is a smarter day one buy. I'm sorry but I'm not paying $400 for The Order and indie games. Sure Killzone, but that's quickly turning into halo with how they're churning those out. Not a fanboy just my opinion. Disagree if you will
sync90  +   391d ago
Its far more appealing than $500 for Ryse, and another forza. Then you compare KZ to halo??? lol

Im not trying to be rude, but thats complete and utter nonsense and to say that shows you've never even played a KZ game.
pixelsword  +   391d ago
I thought Halo was the end-all and be-all for FPS games.
timl241  +   391d ago
I'm not comparing KZ to Halo. Just saying that Halo is being worn out and KZ is making that same mistake. Not there yet but a few more years and it will be. And there's more than Forza and Ryse. Dead rising 3, Titanfall in the spring, sunset overdrive is a fresh take on a shooter. Not knocking the ps4, just saying XB1 has a better lineup to start. Just like the Ps3, the ps4 will eventually have better games. Just not now
threefootwang  +   391d ago
@ timl241

Launch games shouldn't determine what console you purchase. Sure maybe the X1 has what some people believe to be a "better" selection then the PS4 (Personally I find the PS4 side more interesting), but launch games are forgotten almost instantly and never look as good as the games that come out even a year after new consoles hit the market; the PS3 and the Xbox 360 can both attest to this. Also keep in mind, Sony has way more exclusive studios who have all confirmed they are working on next gen games, they just haven't announced anything publicly yet. I'd factor this into your considerations if I were you. I'm actually kind of happy knowing I'll be able to buy a PS4 and not have to dish out a ridiculous amount of money on launch games, plus with my PSN+ subscription I'll have access to additional games which will be free of charge as well.
timl241  +   391d ago
@threefoot

I'll be the first to admit that the PS4 WILL have better games in the future. There is a reason I am picking up a PS3. I want to play all those great exclusives that I missed out on. However, the reason I'm getting the Xbox first is because of the exclusives at launch. That's all I'm saying. I will buy a PS4 when better games come out. But I personally find it redundant to buy both when they come out. I've been a lot more open minded about consoles recently. I used to hate Sony and PlayStation. But recently it has been growing on me because the games are very good. Those games just need to come out before I buy a PS4
pixelsword  +   391d ago
I haven't looked into any of this stuff yet, but one thing's for sure: with all of that talk about MS being in bed with the guber-mint, this title doesn't help assuage anyone's feelings who might feel uncomfortable about all of that.
buynit  +   391d ago
pixlesword...

You ppl are still scared of kinect? Like seriously... You have been watched many times jerking off to your favorite porn via your cell phone.. If you drive you have been recorded at intersections and highways..

Besides actually watching you, the guberment knows all about you right through your internet...

If you are that scared then move out of the united states. you need to get completely off the grid like out in the woods with no power, water supply etc.. Move back to the... How you ppl say it? "the draconian age"...

And to be fair... Halo did start and end better than kz, well not really end cause both franchises are still going strong..
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Eddie20101  +   391d ago
Not scared, just don't want to have to buy something that makes little difference to the type of games I play.

I not getting an Xbox One 80 anyway for this reason and many others.
pixelsword  +   391d ago
@ buynit:

Microsoft already confessed that they're doing exactly that. You really need to read-up on a lot of things. If you're older than thirteen, I pity anyone within a five-mile perimeter of you because you obviously have no idea about how the world works. I think buynit really means "buying it" because of your gullible nature but that's really cool with me; because if there's enough people like you being the pillars of the house of the impressionable, all you do is provide shade and shelter when people like me drop by for a visit.
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3-4-5  +   391d ago
It can pick us out of a lineup ?

What, does it think we are all criminals or something ?
threefootwang  +   391d ago
Pick you out of a lineup, and with Kinect know your heart rate.

NSA is going to love the X1. lol
DonFreezer  +   391d ago
Why haven't you siad the same when there were all sorts of bullcrap about ps4 being more powerfull?
Jazz4108  +   391d ago
Maybe micro needs to secure rights to the sequel and get octomom then sony fans will buy one. Just kidding. I cant wait for both consoles so lets let the games do the talking no Cerny bs or ms fluff.
Tw1tch3D  +   391d ago
Well if the bases is emphasized on games...ppffttt, Xbox One has better games this launch and early next year.

So if the argument is carried from specs to games, either way there is relevancy on both sides of the argument supporting Xbox One.

Not trying to convince you otherwise, just stating your point as if you hinted to the sense that if this supposed Xbox One hardware is as good as it seems, that now games should be the emphasis and as if PS4 has more and better games. When it's the other way around.

...just saying.
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showtimefolks  +   391d ago
hopefully both companies will show the power of their systems with great games
SmokeyMcBear  +   392d ago
uhhh.. did anyone read this article... the only thing it talks about is is how the cpu chip analyzes the images received from the kinect peripheral.
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Mounce  +   391d ago
The article creator is begging for hits about trivial facts on a Webcam rather than what the CPU can do for Gamers.

"THE CPU IS SO STRONG.....THAT THE KINECT IS STRONG....SO THAT IT CAN SHOW YOU ON CAM LIKE AN HD CAM....AND THEN TURN GREY AND SEE YOU!"

Okay there.
kenmid  +   392d ago
I don't think realized how powerful the Kinect Sensor is.
Eddie20101  +   391d ago
Many don't care, including myself. It's still just a motion sensor device for playing games. The kind of games most gamer's really don't care for.
TKCMuzzer  +   392d ago
I get bored of reading these tech articles, as long as the games look good on my TV and run smoothly I don't really care about Tflops etc. The sooner the consoles arrive the better, then it can all be about the games again.
kewlkat007  +   392d ago
Tflops + hMuma equals better graphics..
TKCMuzzer  +   392d ago
I understand that but there are just to many articles about the tech stuff, I just want to see games.
hennessey86  +   392d ago
Really so more teraflops are better, why is it then that some amd cards have a higher teraflop count than nvidia cards and the nvidia cards still produce the better results.................it' ;s not all about raw specs my friend.
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thehitman  +   392d ago
@Hennessay its just because more games are optimized for nvidia cards, drivers. I bet there will be a huge turnaround now that AMD has a huge marketshare and almost every developer will have to optimize for amd if they develop on consoles as well. There will be a huge improvement on systems that use amd cards and PC gamers will probably benefit from it the most.

Thats why PC gaming isnt all what its said out to be because even with having the latest tech, optimization drags PC gaming down.
ThanatosDMC  +   391d ago
Deus Ex runs like crap compared to it's AMD counterpart. Depends how a game is optimized.
Campy da Camper  +   392d ago
Agreed. I'd take 9 stories a day of straight up "Here is a 10 minute video of X game running on X system" over " CPU chip hybrid now made in silicone from moon which yeilds more gigawatts for better shader enhanced pixelation."
MakiManPR  +   392d ago
Without Specs and the hardware there CAN'T be no games. AND the games and the Publishers DEMAND those specs.
Heartnet  +   392d ago
There can be... and games cant demand anything as they are just a creation of code and have no mind of their own...

and i doubt publishers demand these specs as the lower the specs the lower the development time which means lower costs... MS and Sony are the ones forcing higher specs in consoles...
DarkHeroZX  +   391d ago
@Heartnet

Actually developers do push specs. The original 360 was originally going to have only 256MB of total ram. Developers pushed MS to increase it because it was not enough. And its not about how powerful the hardware is but how user friendly. Developers have already come out and stated that the PS4 is cheaper to develop for due to it's easy to program for hardware. The cell while being a great chip has an extremely high learning curve and as a result takes longer to get that ideal performance. Having more powerful hardware typically means nothing cost wise. And specs matter dude do you honestly think they don't? Do you think any modern game would run on the N64,PS1, Dreamcast, etc? No, its impossible. Even the difference between BF4 on current gen and next gen are going to have many performance differences like 60fps vs 30fps, 64 player online vs what 24? Specs do matter as gaming evolves over time.
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Fangrim  +   391d ago
Same goes for the PS4:

QUOTE:

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Recounting the story of how they went from 4GB to 8GB, Adam was actually at Gearbox (Borderlands), with Randy Pitchford, President of Gearbox, telling him, “If you go with 4GB of GDDR5, you are done.” Following that statement, Boyes says that the entire room of about 30 people added in that “you guys, you never listen, you’ve never been good at this stuff.”

After hearing this, Adam says he had a mini-breakdown, and it wasn’t until he reflected on this and asked himself the question, “Are we going to be the best console in every single category?” before things started moving, because “the answer used to be no.”

So, Adam went back to the developers about the possibility of doing 8GB of RAM, getting responses like “that would be incredible.” He then took all the feedback to Tokyo, got the thumbs up, and the rest is history.

<snip>

/QUOTE

http://www.playstationlifes...
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Belking  +   392d ago
I told all you fanboys a few months ago that the xbox-one cpu was gonna be highly customized.
HammadTheBeast  +   392d ago
....for Kinect, as the article states.....
Belking  +   392d ago
Nope, the cpu in the xbox-one is too. Read the article fanboy.

"The Xbox One is possibly the largest chip manufactured to date, with a comparable number to Intel’s 64-core Xeon Phi coprocessor for supercomputers, and easily topping Intel’s 8-core “Poulsen” Itanium that the chip maker launched in 2012."

Of course the one in Kinect is, duh. This thing has a lot of CPU processing power. The One!

Plus it has a kick ass sound chip too.

ttps://twitter.com/rickbmerri tt/status/372097331568857089

This console has turned out much better than what people were lead to believe.
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dantesparda  +   392d ago
The chip is big because of the esram, if instead of wasting that chip real estate on esram to make up for the ddr3 bandwidth deficiency, they could have better used that space to make a gpu with more transistors (in other words more powerful).
KazHiraiFTW  +   392d ago
Belking, I just want you and all the other xdone fanboys to know that 363mm2 is not a big chip by any means. The gpu I have in my pc right now is 551mm2 with 7.1 billion transistors...and that's just the gpu, not including the cpu with an additional 1.4 billion processors and 160mm2 die size.

That equals 8.5 billion transistors vs your 5 billion transistors and 711mm2 of die space on the processors vs your puny 363mm2 die.

Get a grip kid, the xdone is nothing special.
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TKCMuzzer  +   392d ago
Maybe you should have been working for MS and you could have used your powers to warn them about not what to do on their Xbox one announcement.
HammadTheBeast  +   392d ago
Still weaker than PS4 fanboi.
cesuf  +   392d ago
and your ps4 is already 3-4 times weaker than my gaming pc, before it evens releases...in several months. 3-4 times, that's huge.

your argueing over tables scrapes for such small differences between consoles. lol sad and insignificant, really.
JamieL  +   391d ago
I love how the BIGGEST "fanyboys" on this site are always the first ones to throw that accusation out there. It really doesn’t matter if he is a fanboy or not, that does NOT change the FACT you are one too. So why call him out acting like that behavior is wrong to you, when in fact you are here day and night doing the same thing? It’s ok for you to be a fanboy and not him? Because he likes MS, that’s the big violation to you? It’s ok to be a fanboy of Sony, but not MS right? You know what; I think I have it figured out. You’re just a hypocrite, and call people fanboy’s to compensate for your own behavior and keep the focus off yourself. It’s like the guy that cheats on his girlfriend, and is always up her a$$ because he thinks she’s doing the same thing just because he is. So you have to be so overbearing, and call her the cheater to keep the focus off your own shortcomings. Classy, keep it up.
boing1  +   392d ago
Yeah, you were absolutely correct! Amazing! It changes... nothing.
BlaqMagiq24  +   392d ago
And I can still tell you like a few months ago that it's STILL weaker than PS4. That is fact and that will never change
Kennytaur  +   392d ago
Yeah, YOU told them. It's not like sensible people could draw such an obvious conclusion themselves... Show me a console without a custom processor. There's always some form of special sauce.
Khajiit86  +   392d ago
I want one but will wait until it is 350 or under
Swiggins  +   392d ago
Exactly, I'm gonna do what I did for this Gen and just wait a year. There's plenty of games coming out for the current gen to keep me occupied and in a year, there'll be a price drop, more games out, and I'll have a better look at what each console is "doing".

That said, if I were to buy a next gen system at launch, it'd probably be the PS4, despite the Xbox One's superior launch lineup.
Khajiit86  +   392d ago
Superior? Titanfall gives me 0 excitement, and Ryse looks good but i need to see how the gameplay feels. I know some of my friends will own it and I am a hardcore gamer and cant wait to play some future exclusives.
JamieL  +   391d ago
@ Khajiit86
Yes "Superior", and because of your opinion he's wrong? I too think the XB1's launch lineup looks better than KZ(the PS4’s lineup). I can't even name another launch PS4 title, which speaks volumes in itself, but my point is you are arguing with his opinion, because you've convinced yourself you don't like the XB1 or anything on it. I also think it's funny as hell, and VERY telling that Titanfall holds no interest for you but KZ does? What they've show of KZ looks a lot less fun than what they've show of Titanfall IMHO, but that’s my point you have the right to be more excited for KZ without having someone telling you how bad your opinion is.
Megaton  +   392d ago
The chip's giant size is the reason behind the suspected bad yields, right? Something about a certain percentage of all chips being DOA, but the number going up substantially as you increase the size of the die.
SmokeyMcBear  +   392d ago
yup.
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BallsEye  +   392d ago
Not really. Read the newest articles. You are talking about ESRAM.
Kennytaur  +   392d ago
They are building it with redundancy, so parta of it can fail in production without impacting the chip. But I wonder if this means some systems may have an advantage in life expectancy, probably not but still it's interesting.
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lifeisgamesok  +   392d ago
This new info explains the brilliance which is Ryse: SOR
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Trekster_Gamer  +   392d ago
This tech is awesome. I can't wait until developers truly take advantage of everything Xbox one else to offer Kinect is going to be soooo much more accurate and immersive.
TheKingWilliamV  +   392d ago
Silly rabbits Console Wars are for kids...
Hufandpuf  +   391d ago
Or N4G.
gamertk421  +   392d ago
This article doesn't even mention the use of tensilica in the audio and other cores, nor does it reference the 8gb flash memory revealed in the hot chips session. When everything is fully revealed in late September, in terms of the actual GPU setup, we'll see that worrying about the XB1 holding back this generation will have been completely baseless.
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Kennytaur  +   392d ago
There's always been an underdog in performance and there always will be. The ps1, ps2 and 360 (and ps3 up until 2009) were just fine. Yes, there will be differences, but if it worries someone that much: build a pc.
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quenomamen  +   392d ago
Yea ? Can it pick me out while im standing in line outside Best Buy this Nov when I get my PS4 ?and if so, will it have hate in its sensors ???
gamertk421  +   392d ago
Yes, and I hope so...
Heartnet  +   392d ago
it will feel sorry for you though.. missing out..
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Agent_hitman  +   392d ago
Kinect chip lol.. Not about the power, the article stated.
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n4rc  +   392d ago
Damn
... So many hidden comments.. Fanboys on both sides beware I guess lol
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