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The Xbox One and PS4: When did gamers stop caring about video games?

GameZone writes, "I'm not exactly sure when it happened, but at some point in the recent past, being a gamer started to mean that you had to religiously align yourself with a console manufacturer. And these days ridiculing Microsoft has become so vogue that the rhetoric is starting to resemble the kind of meaningless drivel that we've become accustomed to in politics."

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ShugaCane1069d ago

"This week, Microsoft published a list of 50 titles that are in various stages of the development for the Xbox One, and 23 of those will be available on launch day. By contrast, Sony’s console has 33 titles in the works, and only 15 of those will become available during the launch window (notice that I said launch window instead of launch day for the PlayStation 4)."

May I correct this. The PS4 has 180 titles in development.

http://www.ign.com/articles...

ABeastNamedTariq1069d ago

Thanks for stopping the flow of misinformation. Where the hell do these guys do their research?

guitarded771069d ago

"Where the hell do these guys do their research?"

On the internet... that's why misinformation breeds misinformation. It's a vicious cycle. One loser posts inaccurate info, and it all falls like a house of cards. Sony also has many more games launching with the PS4, they're just looking at retail titles... but there are many downloadable games for day one too.

Brazz1069d ago

I can forgive misinformation but after this read i dare say that this guy is extremely partial ... It puts the X1 in the sky, asks why some people do not like the product, clearly says that microsoft is doing a better job than the sony and repeatedly tries to mask a preference for microsoft with "words of comfort" for Sony, he assaults indirectly playstation and after says he'll be fine, things are kinda cool and "both are good machines, x1 is just a little better" ...
I don'tthink this is misinformation, i think this guy realywant to boost X1, sadly...

MizTv1069d ago

Games is why I picked ps A long time ago

SolidStoner1069d ago

yet, another porn gaming news...

XB1_PS41069d ago

I want to know the true numbers with these 4 categories. All release dates must be scheduled for 2014, and works in progress.

1)PS4 AAA Titles
2)Xbox One AAA Titles
3)PS4 Indie Titles
4)Xbox One Indie Titles.

That would be a good article.

levian1069d ago

I really hate to say it, but how many of those 180 are indie games? Don't hate me saying I'm an XBone fanboy, I'm getting a PS4. But I really don't think indie games should be counted. Out of all the indies out there I think I've enjoyed like 3 or 4. And it's not like they're PS4 exclusive - they'll be on PC, possibly iPhone/Android, and a lot of these indies are said to be "coming first" to playstation.

windblowsagain1069d ago

@ABeastNamedTariq.

They do their research at the VGCHARTZ factory.

Now pick a number and go with it.

SilentNegotiator1069d ago (Edited 1069d ago )

Xbox fanboys are always whining about people "aligning" (taking favor) with one console while making crap up to make Xbox One seem superior.

Playing the "victim" while boasting your side supreme. Like politicians.

avengers19781069d ago

@sofresh
Total games announced
PS4 79 XB1 55
Original IPs
PS4 42 XB1 18
Indie
PS4 24 XB1 5
True exclusives (AAA)
PS4 15 XB1 17

dantesparda1069d ago

"And these days ridiculing Microsoft has become so vogue that the rhetoric is starting to resemble the kind of meaningless drivel that we've become accustomed to in politics."

Yet i bet you not one peep out of this guy when people ridicule Sony or it was "vogue" to ridicule Sony. Fanboys (and yes that's what this guy is) are so phony.

And p.s. to MS fanboys stop whining

Godmars2901068d ago

@avengers1978:

Still need to regard production into when those games show up. For both MS and Sony.

clearelite1068d ago (Edited 1068d ago )

Personal bias can lead to all sorts of misinformation on here.

I am more of a Playstation fan but at least try to use factual information

These articles make for a lot of funny threads though.

Well said bubble come_bom.

UnholyLight1068d ago

@clearelite

Thank you for having a brain on here! I was more of an Xbox guy this gen but this coming gen I'll be on both PS4 and Xbox One. To each their own but I think I have to agree with some of what the guy in the article says about how Microsoft has gone back and done what everyone asked them to reverse and yet the same people are mad at them for listening to them?? I don't understand!

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come_bom1069d ago

Fanboys play consoles, not games.

XB1_PS41069d ago

Ay Dios Mio. That ^^^ is the quote of the day.

walkincarpet1069d ago

Good point and they constantly make fools out of themselves. Look at all of them lining up to prove the authors point.

Truth1069d ago

Well said and bubbs added.

theoneb1068d ago

Very true and have existed since Genesis does and Nintendont.
I was a die hard Sega supporter, knew all the specs of the Sega CD 32x and asked my mom for both until I found out about Sega Saturn.

Sega could do no evil in my eyes. So one faithful day we went to walmart to buy a Saturn and I saw the game Tekken on the shelves. I was amazed to see that game as I remember being blown away by the still in the arcade version at my local pizzeria.

I picked up the box to find that Tekken was only on PlayStation a consle that I didn't even know existed. I was torn between brand loyalty and great games and nedless to say I never owned another Sega console.

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devwan1069d ago

pfffft, very poor article!

It's 33 games released before the end of the year - that's in the first 10 or 11 weeks of the ps4 going on sale!

Yes, many of those are indie games... but my god, some of those indies are looking fantastic!

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MysticStrummer1069d ago

@Gman - Get used to it. Indies are cheaper to make, and last year there were two that became legitimate GotY candidates, Journey and The Walking Dead.

AAA games are a much bigger risk, especially when most of the buying power is now in the hands of people who started their gaming careers with simple games. Indie games play right into that demographic, even though those same people also play plenty of AAA games.

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levian1069d ago

@Gman

I know how you feel, even though stating your opinion on the fact gets instant disagrees. Out of all the indie games, I've only really enjoyed Terraria, Super Meat Boy and Dungeon Defenders.

People don't buy consoles to play indie games (no offense PS Vita), and they need to stop being counted as actual console games. If you're going with that logic, you may as well say that the iPhone/Android is the best console, because it has 1000s of games, and a ton of them are free! They don't count.

MysticStrummer1069d ago (Edited 1069d ago )

"People don't buy consoles to play indie games"

Anyone who's been paying attention to the last 3 generations knows Sony always brings the games. Indie games were a nice plus last generation and produced smaller games that were nonetheless legitimate GotY candidates, so it's good to see support for those developers.

I know for myself there were several indie games I wanted before I ever bought my PS3. They were part of my anticipation then, and they're part of my anticipation now. I think this gen will see some great indies on both consoles.

Personally I think neither console has a must have exclusive in the retail launch line-up, but DC Universe, Warframe, Warthunder, Blacklight Retribution, and Planetside 2 ( All Free ) will certainly keep me busy in between playing Battlefield 4 and Watch Dogs. If I go with PS+, add Drive Club and Outlast to that list. That can't be beaten, it's all about games, and there's already great stuff on the horizon.

Indie games are the icing on that cake.

SilentNegotiator1069d ago (Edited 1069d ago )

@Gman

It's funny how certain fans of Xbox, known for its indie games, suddenly don't care so much about them after Microsoft temporarily planned not to have indie games at all (since having a publisher is exactly what destroys your "independent" status).

Perhaps, like DRM, they repeated to themselves that it was a good thing so many times that they actually started to believe it?

rainslacker1068d ago (Edited 1068d ago )

I disagree.

That's within 6 weeks and 4 days of the system going on sale...in the US at least. Less for Europe. :)

Also...how do people call themselves gamers if they disregard games just because they aren't AAA? Serious question here.

devwan1068d ago

@rainslacker - yes, I added a whole extra month for some bizarre reasons, it's just 6 or 7 weeks and 33 games!

DigitalRaptor1068d ago (Edited 1068d ago )

@ Gman

All Sony is doing is opening their arms to creative minds who want to make games, and emphasising that to the world. Again, you are strangely worried that Sony aren't going to focus on AAA because they are giving indies a platform on par with AAA? That is simply ridiculous to suggest based on a proven track record.

Let's face it though, Microsoft drove the whole indie popularity on consoles regardless of the fact that consoles have been supporting indie status before Microsoft even got into the XBox business. Naughty Dog and Insomniac were indie developers at one point in time. Think on that one for a second.

This company is supporting the developers of tomorrow and giving them a stage, a catalyst if you will, to prove themselves. If the games they make are shite, then we won't buy them. If they make creative, fun and unique experiences (which they mostly always do) to compliment AAA productions, what is to complain about?

Games that truly deserve it will be promoted and lauded, and the ones that are not good will stand out like a sore thumb. Just like we know exactly which AAA games are duds.

For example: RiMe, Outlast, Everybody's Gone to the Rapture, Shadow of the Beast, Transistor, The Witness, all look like they're shaping up to be pretty great games, and those are to name but a few.

humbleopinion1068d ago

@DigitalRaptor

The main problem with all the games you mentioned is that they're not really falling into the category of "This company is supporting the developers of tomorrow and giving them a stage, a catalyst if you will, to prove themselves".

When Microsoft picked up games like Bastion or Braid or Limbo or Deadlight or Fez and many others they took a risk with an unknown developer who had no prior games to show for. It was kind of a gamble. The same applies to Sony and ThatGameCompany I think.

But right now? People like Jonathan Blow and companies like SuperGiant games already proved themselves, have an immense fan following, and can pretty much release their games anywhere they want knowing that it will sell pretty well based on their name alone.
So when Sony picks up their games throwing some money in their general direction, they're not really incubating new idead giving unknown developers a stage (obviously the same applies to Microsoft picking up games such as Minecraft after it became an immense success).

It's also not a new practice: Microsoft did it last gen with Alan Wake after the success of Max Payne, and Sony did it with Heavy Rain after the success of Indigo Prophecy. Both games could have seen a multiplat release if it wasn't for this.
The only difference is that the costs of development are rising, so it becomes more risky to invest in one big franchise from an external developer (not to mention the possible loss of sales on other platforms). Instead Sony opted out for much smaller developers who are truly indie and produce smaller and cheaper games, but are still known to be the developers of today - not the ones of tomorrow.

I want to see which company manages to nurture the real indie innovators of tomorrow, not simply buying out exclusivity for games from developers we all know and love. That will be their true test next gen in my opinion.

Jazz41081068d ago

360 had tons of indie games and arcade games and kinect games but those were not allowed to be used against ps3s official list that still has games from 6 years aggo that have not released. What was said was sony shows there games ahead of time ecen in concept stages. Wow. Its just really twofaced. Like i have said many times play games not systems.

Seafort1068d ago

I'd rather play indie games than the AAA games. Most of the time indie games have much more variety and depth and come at an affordable price.

Indie just means Independant and can be 100+ people or 1-2.

I'm glad Sony are treating the indie devs with respect and including them on their console at launch.

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Bzone241069d ago

I think the difference is that they are using numbers for titles that have been posted. Unless I'm wrong and there is a list of the 180 titles Ps4 has in development?

thezeldadoth1069d ago

you really think that all 180 games are going to be big AAA worth playing titles?

pyramidshead1069d ago

180 holy shit, that's more than the 150 previously rumoured. Will be a good gen to be a PlayStation gamer!

Narutone661069d ago

Hahaha... So PS4 also did a 180. Joking aside, that's a lot of games.

coopman3001068d ago

Yea but how many of those 180 games will be worth playing, 3 or 4? For every good indie game I've played there are a host of them that are total crap, jus sayin.

SpecialSauce1069d ago

meanwhile sony continues to produce many great games for the ps3, the same cannot be said about microsoft. microsoft does dirty tactics, real gamers notice these things. investing all their studios and time in the new console while ditching the old

MizTv1069d ago

I agree
And don't forget about there Reliable hardware

Edward751069d ago

I have clarify your statement sugercane....

http://www.examiner.com/art...

The now 180 titles in development INCLUDE third party.

Microsofts titles in development number DOES NOT INCLUDE third party.

The numbers in actuality have more titles being made by MS.

Why do many people twist the info? The amount of games is a lot closer with an actual edge to MS right now. The 33 titles are Sony "made" games compared to 50 by ms.

I wonder what it would be if MS included the third party titles. Like I said very similar. People would be stupid to think that 180 in house games are being developed now for the PS4. That wouldn't even be close to financially viable.

calis1069d ago (Edited 1069d ago )

"The 33 titles are Sony "made" games compared to 50 by ms. "

There is no way in heck MS are developing 50 exclusive games at the one time.

Jiggins991069d ago

did the 360 even have 50 exclusives?
the only ones which come to mind are halo and gears.
theres another big one im missing but i just cant think of it

JackStraw1069d ago

thanks captain obvious. OF COURSE it includes third party.

face, meet palm.

HammadTheBeast1069d ago

MS doesn't even have 25 in-house studios, unless each of their studios is making 4 games each, then it includes third-parties.

mistertwoturbo1069d ago

lol seriously...

You actually think Microsoft is going to make 50 exclusive games in one year?

Edward751068d ago

Mister two, no I don't. Not in the first year, that would be a bit crazy. I am saying in development, period. When did I say in the first year? Feel free to answer.

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JBSleek1069d ago

Obviously we are talking about studio only or publisher made not third party. If you included third party MS numbers would be huge as well.

Edward751069d ago

50 and 33 by both are very possible. Especially considering ms dumping all the money in games.

The biggest thing I want to make clear is simply this... This next gen war between MS and Sony is going to be a lot closer then many on this site want to admit. It's great for all of us!

n4rc1069d ago

for one thing... saying you have 180 but can only manage names for 33 and providing a list of 50 titles are two different things.. i seriously doubt that every single title MS is working on is on that list..

"On the internet... that's why misinformation breeds misinformation. It's a vicious cycle. One loser posts inaccurate info, and it all falls like a house of cards"

so very true.. but it works on both sides.

StoutBEER1069d ago

See this is true. I go on PS4 vids even though i'm getting an Xbox One cause some of the games they have look interesting. Murasakibaby, Infamous Second Son, and Killzone to a lesser degree. But I don't go on there to bitch, i do it cause i'm interested. Yet all I see are people bashing my choice. Why? Because they are petty as hell. I wan't to seewhat people think about the game, not how much they hate me and my console

quenomamen1069d ago

I really like how all the focus is on launch day games, not on what comes months or years after that. You can have 100 games on launch day. So what ? How many of those do I want to play ? How many of those do I want to spend $60 a pop on ? You're still paying more for an under powered system fact. You enjoy your rehash of a game From 1992 that they're charging $5 a character for and I'll enjoy playing BF4 and Watchdogs and keep my extra $100. Come back in 1-2 years when Devs start to take advantage of the better hardware and tell me how much you enjoyed Ryse Son Of Rome.

buynit1069d ago

Did this fool just take a stab at killer instinct?! You sound like a bitter "gamer"..

How aboit you just dont come back at all?

NextGen24Gamer1069d ago (Edited 1069d ago )

Who counts indie games honestly? For every 1000 indie games developed....1 or 2 end up being good or great. Sony fans can't be serious with this...This has got to be a joke. Since when does console gamers care about cheaply made, a dime a dozen, indie games that 1/100 end up being OKAY? LOL....This has gotten absurd and it's at an alltime low. Who the heck buys a next gen console for indie games? LOL...

LOL...I guess sony fanboys preferences are different than mine and that is fine. As a 35 year old gamer, I admit that my needs/wants have changed. I like all of the navigation features and having my Xbox taking care of pretty much everything. I also have family living in other states, so to be able to just tell it to Skype up to 4 of them in one session will be great. Will I play Kinect only games? Most likely not. Though my 4 year old daughter loved a couple kinnect games on the xbox 360. But I'm optimistic that devs can find ways to complement hardcore games in ways that we haven't seen before, such as touching your temple to activate night vision. The possibilities are exciting for me as a hardcore gamer. I'm also pretty excited for the games that we've seen so far. I personally think that XB1 has the stronger exclusive line up so far. Again, these are just my opinions and preferences and while I don't understand the excitement for all those indie games, I respect that sony fans are different.

walkincarpet1069d ago

I'm right there with you, E24G, well almost, 38, with three young sons. So have limited time playing games, but when I do, I want the best experience, I want to connect online with out of town family, and I want some new game play! Playing with the same fundamental controller input has gotten old after 30 years. Can't wait for X1 - the system is better than PS4 in every way except for graphics and surprisingly has better games out of the gate.

NextGen24Gamer1069d ago

Walkincarpet

I know we are not alone by any stretch of the imagination, though on this site the loudest and most vocal gamers would attempt to make it seem that way. I'm a self admitted graphic geek...And my eye test tells me up to this point the games look as good or better up to this point on the xbox one. But, listening to the many developers who have spoke out on it, it seems the differences will be less in the hardware and more in what the developers do with each console.

So, when sony gamers say that games will look better on the ps4...I actually think that it will depend on the game. There will be 1st party games on both systems that will be mind blowing graphically. Raw power rarely automatically means games will look better. 1080p 60 fps is great and both systems will push that consistently at some point.

There are so many other things that go into graphics on top of the raw power.

Software tools, esram, texture tiling, etc...It's more complicated than gamers understand. Pushing numbers and graphics are not one in the same.

You already have sony fanboys YELLING that Killzone looks amazing...That alone tells me that obviously people have different opinions about what looks good to them. The graphics don't look amazing to me and the gameplay looks boring just like the previous Killzones. That is my opinion and I own all 3 previous Killzones.

To me TITANFALL looks amazing. Graphics & gameplay, but yet I've heard some sony fanboys say the opposite. Once again, obviously opinions will vary on what looks good and what doesn't.

One thing that is clear is that TITAN FALL will releasing 6 months from now, won more awards at E3 than any game in the HISTORY of E3.

And gaming journalist who have played it have raved about how it looks and plays...

Not xbox fans or sony fans...but gaming journalist who do this for a living.

My point...the argument about graphics will never be settled with fanboys...

Devs have already said that there will be little difference and more parity than with the 360 and ps3...

It will ultimately come down to devs....1080p 60fps...Games will look beautiful...

Now lets enjoy the next gen...the graphics argument will never be settled or agreed upon by fanboys....

Outside of graphics...which will never be settled...the xbox one is the only next gen console actually offering something special outside of updated graphics!

Easy choice for my family!

Chevalier1068d ago (Edited 1068d ago )

@Elitegamer

Really? Sony fans are gamers. We're playing a couple dozen exclusives this year and not just indies. What are 360 fans playing? ! Gears Judgement, Fable HD, and Dark. You guys are trying to make it seem like all Sony is only indies when this isn't a sprint, it's a marathon and Sony just keeps on delivering game after game.

PS3 has Gow: Ascension, The Last of Us, Puppeteer, Rain, Gran Turismo 6, Journey, Beyond, Sly Cooper, MLB 13, Until Dawn from Sony alone. Then FF X/ X-2 HD, KH HD, FF XIV, Ni no Kuni, Tales of Xillia, Dragons Crown, Atelier Ayesha, Time and Eternity, Disgaea D2, Guided Fate Paradox, Aquaplus and more. Games in every genre and many excellent games so quality and quantity.

Also really mature of a 35 year old man to call people fanboys. Guess being older makes you more intelligent? Important and entitled?! MS has dropped support early 2 generations in a row and now you have faith based on a handful of launch titles? Seriously?! Sony systems have a heritage of supporting gamers and releasing a lot and taking creative risk to push gaming forward whether it be games or disc format. So maybe don't talk about respecting Sony fans for being 'different' as you put it when clearly you can care less.

@Walkincarpet - Does your best experience include actual games? Last I checked you guys don't have much to choose from this year or the last few in fact. Irony is last time I had a discussion about games with 360 owners ALL they said was a few good xbox live arcade games. But Indies are bad right? Also you want 'NEW' gameplay? Weird that 'new' is that coming from all those sequels? Dead Rising 3, Halo 5, Fable, Forza 5, Killer Instinct 3 anybody?! Most of the MS developed games are sequels except for what Project Spark?

DigitalRaptor1068d ago (Edited 1068d ago )

Nice number you pulled completely out of your buttocks there, mate.

What you fail to realise and gain is any real perspective of gaming as a whole. All I see here is a rant that you think Sony are not actually going to focus on AAA in a big way, regardless of the generations of evidence that works against you. Of course an Xbox fanboy would negate great looking indie games that are on more than a basement dweller's budget as you seem to believe.

Naughty Dog and Insomniac were indie developers at a point in time. What you fail to perceive is that the bad games will be weeded out and the great ones (more than you seem to believe based on the 1000 indie games you've supposedly played) will be lauded as the developers of tomorrow, on a platform where their work can be truly recognised and their next projects become something bigger and better.

There are a ton of great indie games out there, so why should we spit on them all because their good to average/bad ratio is split? The same can totally be said for AAA retail games. Do you realise how many crappy games hit retail every year? Do you honestly see every retail game as something you want to buy? Exactly.

We had 2 genuine GOTY contenders last year in indie games. Now how does THAT come about?

Warframe is indie - looks great. Blacklight Retribution is indie - looks great. Helldivers is indie - looks great. Transistor is indie - looks great. Everybody's Gone to the Rapture is indie - looks great. RiMe is indie - looks great. Dreamfall Chapters (on PC) is indie - looks great. Shadow of the Beast is indie - looks great. Primal Carnage: Genesis is indie - looks great. The Witness is indie - looks great. Resogun is indie - looks great.

You see, even these early-on indie/free-to-play games look good and many have great ideas with lots of potential. Some of them already have thriving communities on PC, so keep pretending that more options for more diverse, unique and creative experiences are a bad thing.

Sony fans are different for sure, we support the same creative ideas that the Xbox fanbase and PC communities have been supporting for years. This gen we've had Super Meat Boy, Limbo, Braid, Bastion, Spelunky, Trine, Telltale Games, Guacamelee, Journey, The Unfinished Swan, Super Stardust, Dead Nation, Amnesia: The Dark Descent, Dear Esther, Hotline Miami, The Binding of Isaac, PixelJunk, Thomas Was Alone, Closure, Mark of the Ninja, FTL: Faster Than light, Don't Starve, and most recently, State of Decay and Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons on XBL - and the list goes on. I think that list is large enough to show the indie development community has had its fair share of great games and relevance for that to expand into future development.

So yes, they do count and Sony fans and fans of gaming in general are serious. Sony are serious because of the indie dev community themselves, and Microsoft are getting serious again after seeing the movement from Sony. See, just like Microsoft, their fanboys only care about the indie development community when it suits them.

@ Chevalier

"xbox one is the only next gen console actually offering something special outside of updated graphics! "

Go on, do it. Tell us what these mythical offerings are, and keep spouting your "PS3.5 philosophies" until you actually believe it some more.

Jazz41081068d ago

Like I said early sony fans discounted and did not count indie games on 360 or kinect. I think sony is going to be using alot of these indie games to pad there ps+ offerings.

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Jamaicangmr1069d ago

Lol! With that correction this article has just become irrelevant.

Good catch ShugaCane

strifeblade1069d ago

180 games! OH my god no Sony please have mercy stop shoving indy games down my throat- i have had enough just give me fewer titles but that actualy have more than one "A" preferably AAA but thats wishful thinking.

xtremeimport1069d ago

Literally...the "playstation has no games" argument is returning. Do Xbots not have any other argument against the Playstation?

We all know how well that worked in the current gen now dont we..

DigitalRaptor1068d ago

They are the only fanbase in gaming that simply doesn't learn, or maybe it's because they refuse to listen. And they won't ever learn with the attitude they've shown over the past few months.

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kickerz1068d ago

Who cares about exact numbers. Gosh.Missing the whole point of the article. Typical. That was an excellent read and What he says is 100% true especially for N4G. You lot wine and bicker non stop about how crap Microsoft is, how about you get a life and enjoying gaming on whatever console you buy.Maybe get a job and buy all consoles. I'm a huge Xbox fan, i like their games, but you won't see me paying anyone out if they are playstation or Nintendo or PC gamers. We"re all gamers.

ShugaCane1068d ago

Typical what lol ? Did I bash the Xbox brand or anything here ?

"Who cares about exact numbers"

Well, it's not as if there was not a huge difference between 33 and 180. If you think this is a neglectable margin in a supposedly fact-based article, then let me question the reliability of your argumentation.

kickerz1068d ago

Sorry I was more so aiming that comment on all those comments who were bashing Xbox. so how many of those 180 games are indie games? how many of those games will be coming to Xbox also? don't get me wrong whoever buys a PS4 is going to have a hell of alot of fun and their will be heaps of great games, but there will also be awesome games on Xbox one.

BallsEye1068d ago

It's all just talk as usual. If sony will show that 180 titles anywhere untill 2015 I will castrate myself. That's kist a bullsh!t number and you know it. mediacore game takes 2 years to develop by 1 studio. If you really believe this number you are just silly unless we include all the indie crap (not including the good indies) that take 10 days to develop.

itBourne1068d ago

Ummm... really? I think gamers stopped caring when the 360 outsold the ps3 2:1 in North America... PS3 had 3x the exclusives and a lot of which were games other publishers would not even green light. When the 360 is still out selling the ps3, despite M$ having no exclusives for well over 2 years now, thats when you realize gamers do not care about games. hmmm.... lets support microsoft because they give us nothing, fuck sony who supports games despite them knowing some are not "mass" market. yah ok the so called gamers can go screw themselves. I will own my ps3 and my pc, and get the best games there are, i will never support m$!