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Submitted by smiller1 827d ago | opinion piece

How Microsoft Won GamesCom 2013

VideoGamer: "While there are no actual 'winners' or 'losers' really - both consoles will go on to find huge and successful fan bases - it seems to me Microsoft has come out of GamesCom in a far greater, and stronger, position than what it had before it went into it." (Gamescom 2013, Microsoft, Xbox One)

hennessey86  +   827d ago
Gamers were the winners
Next gen is going to be epic, cant wait to get my hands on both consoles
xHeavYx  +   827d ago
"Killzone: Shadow Fall and Infamous are more of the same". Yeah, and COD, Battlefield, Forza, FIFA, timed exclusives and DLC and Kinect Sports: Rivals are groundbreaking new technology.
He even goes to say that Knack is not for him, but has no problem praising Kinect Sports? What a joke of a "journalist"
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Skips  +   827d ago
The only new games MS announced were Kinect games and a coop game of a dead franchise. (Fable)


lmao, I'd take indies like Everybody's Gone to the Rapture, Rime, and Shadow Of The Beast over more Kinect games ANY DAY...

Yay for micro-transactions for Ryse though!!! (Meanwhile, Sony announces free DLC for Killzone Shadow Fall)

Like what Hammad said below, must've seen a different Gamescom. lol
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Infamous298  +   827d ago
Most of xbox one launch titles were orginally xbox 360 titles.
buynit  +   827d ago
Ok smart ass...

What exactly is any ps4 game doing that is ground breaking?

And rivals does look good and fun to play with the fam, but I know you game in a closet anyway so how can you use kinect right?!
DestinyHeroDoomlord  +   827d ago
How dare he have a different opinion, seriously though who gives a damn what other people's preferences are?
gaffyh  +   827d ago
@buynit - I think his point isn't that PS4 is doing anything groundbreaking, it's that Xbone isn't doing anything groundbreaking.
ThanatosDMC  +   827d ago
Did you write this? Did xHeavYx hurt you? I'm sorry.
AngelicIceDiamond  +   826d ago
@Heavy I don't agree or disagree with the guy but its called an OPINION.

Can a man or a woman have an opinion?

I mean is it illegal to have a different opinion than you? Are you a King, President, Ambassador no your not so your opinion is just like us normal people.

You Sony fans are are way to damn sensitive and defensive.

Calm down geez.
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trafalger  +   827d ago
"Gamers were the winners
Next gen is going to be epic, cant wait to get my hands on both consoles"

this is the attitude that should be out there. not childish defensive antics like the poster above me.
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Maddens Raiders  +   827d ago
Would be great if he really meant it but if this were a Gran Turismo article childish defensive antics would be on display.

*check the comment history before handing out kudos so quickly next time ;)
trafalger  +   827d ago
when a member makes a reasonable post i see no reason in checking there history. it was a neutral comment and changing directions serves no purpose. but since you brought it up i looked into your history and it isn't neutral at all.
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hankmoody  +   827d ago
It kills me that you got disagrees on that. For some people, it HAS TO BE one or the other I guess. SMH
HammadTheBeast  +   827d ago
Reasonable comments are not allowed on N4G, my dad works at Havamedia, we're working on getting a ip ban out to you.

dcj0524  +   827d ago
Sony won because of one game:RIME! That game looks fantastic!
Thisisjuju  +   827d ago
I'm with you there. That game looked fantastic.

I also liked Murasaki baby, although I was like WTF am I watching when they unveiled it.
HugoDrax  +   827d ago
No one won anything, as I didn't see a trophy presentation (No Pun intended)

Although, how hilarious would it be if at the end of every Sony conference someone would bring out a Bronze, Silver, Gold or Platinum trophy to the presenter hahaha! Especially, since Sony started off being comedians during E3 with the "This is how you share games on your PS4 video"
n4rc  +   827d ago

Dude I felt exactly the same way.. Those are the games that actually stand out to me.. Even if that baby game looks mad creepy Lol

Work prevents me from buying both so I picked my most used platform.. But if I wasn't working 50-60h a week I'd be getting both for sure..

Gamers are the winners here.. I can't agree more..
Maddens Raiders  +   827d ago
"Gamers were the winners
Next gen is going to be epic, cant wait to get my hands on both consoles"

looks at comment history....does not ring sincere, sorry I don't believe you.
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ShugaCane  +   827d ago
"Killzone: Shadow Fall and Infamous are more of the same (no bad thing if the franchises have won you over), DriveClub hasn't found its feet yet, and Knack... well... screw Knack*."

Extremely biased article if you ask me.. Shadow Fall and Second Son both look like true Next-Gen games, and they absolutely don't look like 'more of the same' to me. DriveClub looks cool and has a lot of potential. As for Knack, it will definitely find its audience so no reason to say 'screw Knack'.

The X1 looks like a true Next Gen system, don't get me wrong. But with MS partnering here and there to get exclusive content, the FIFA deal with EA and Ryse getting microtransactions, there are still reasons to remain skeptical in my opinion.
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IanVanCheese  +   827d ago
Shadow Fall hasn't impressed me but Infamous Second Son does look pretty sweet. I'll probably pick up a PS4 when Infamous is released.

I've played Driveclub and it's a decent racing game, but it won't compete with the likes of Forza/GT/Grid.

Knack is cool, a nice throwback to games like Ratchet and Clank. It's a nice title to have on the system.

Ryse's 'microtransactions' are just the stuff that was in Mass Effect 3's multiplayer, which I liked. You earn points in game to buy packs which give random weapons, if you are lazy then you can buy those packs with real money.

I'll be getting an Xbox One at launch because I prefer their launch/launch window exclusives, but both consoles are great.
Minato-Namikaze  +   827d ago
You underestimate Evolution. I had more fun with Motorstorm than any other racer this gen. Split second came close but nothing was more fun than racing through a hurricane for the 1st time.

It sucks Apocalypse came out around the time there was the Tsunami and people were put off of the game.
JunioRS101  +   827d ago
What is it with people that hate Knack..? Like wtf have you never played Crash Bandicoot??

To act like Knack is irrelevant blows my mind. Watch some of the new off-screen gameplay from gamescom, it actually looks really fun... I'll probably wait til a price drop or something because I'm on a strict budget this fall, but I mean I definitely wanna play it.

I feel like nobody is giving Knack a fair shake, as if everyone forgot about Crash Bandicoot and Ratchet & Clank
dredgewalker  +   827d ago
Some games just don't appeal to some people no matter how good they are. It's just preference, I got nothing against that.
One_Eyed_Wizard  +   827d ago
IMO Knack looks like the best PS4 launch exclusive but there are some 3rd party games I'll go for first. It doesn't look bad but it's not exactly my favorite style of games.
JunioRS101  +   827d ago
@ One_Eyed_Wizard

You're going to get a lot of disagrees, but you're actually right. Other than KZ i think Knack is the most visually rigorous launch titles.

People who disagree are people who don't know what to look for to determine the fidelity of a game's graphics.

It's not just character models and textures. It's about physics, particle simulation, animations, geometry. Knack actually really delivers on those fronts, and it's kind of a cool concept, it's more of a crash bandicoot tech demo than a simple platformer.

Especially considering it's the very first round of games for PS4. It'll look quite awesome on a big 1080p screen, IMO.
Chevalier  +   826d ago
How are Halo, Forza, Fable and Dead Rising sequels not more of the same lol?
JBSleek  +   827d ago
This comment section is about to get really stupid....
negative  +   827d ago
lol in before fanboy meltdown
Heisenburger  +   827d ago
I read that in the voice of the movie trailer guy. Idk why.
GarrusVakarian  +   827d ago
That's funny, could have sworn it was a videogames trade fair and not a competition.
Wizziokid  +   827d ago
"It's not that Sony had a bad show, either. Its conference, while slow, underlined its dedication to the indie scene, and it remains the cheaper of the two. The games, however, still don't carry any weight of excitement with me. Killzone: Shadow Fall and Infamous are more of the same (no bad thing if the franchises have won you over), DriveClub hasn't found its feet yet, and Knack... well... screw Knack*."

Biased flaimbait?
Minato-Namikaze  +   827d ago
But killzone by all accounts is a a depature from the series roots. Not sure where people are getting the "more of the same" thing from, but the game looks to be more open than any other KZ to date.
HammadTheBeast  +   827d ago
I must've seen a different Gamescom then, my bad.
Kalebninja  +   827d ago
simply because of project spark
IanVanCheese  +   827d ago
the screw knack line could be a kind of joke, like a sort of "I don't have any argument against this" sort of thing...maybe...
NoLongerHereCBA  +   827d ago
That sentence had the * behind it. At the bottom of the story it said:

*This is a joke. While I'm sure Knack is a very good game, it's not for me.
objdadon  +   827d ago
Nobody won anything. Just more of the same from e3! The launch lineups for both systems are still the same and nothing new. I love the fact that im getting both systems and I can just sit back and watch fanboys fight over nothing. It's hilarious!
Silly gameAr  +   827d ago
I wish people would stop trying to convince me that MS and the X1 are awesome.
Loki86  +   827d ago
Oh you mean like the thousands of Sony fans that were calling everyone who pre-ordered an X1 stupid and a plague on the industry. Hypocrisy works both ways.
Silly gameAr  +   827d ago
I'm not worried about any Sony fans or MS fans either for that matter. I do care how I feel and there's nothing MS can do to pretty the X1 up, nor any articles, or xbox fanboys. You guys want to forget what MS tried to do and praise their launch lineup like its the best thing ever, go right ahead.

But, when that support drops off again, like we know it's going to happen and games keep coming out for other systems, like we also know is going to happen, I wonder what people well praise about the X1 then?
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lastofgen  +   826d ago
You have the freedom to ignore these pieces, you know?

And everyone has opinions.
DEEBO  +   827d ago
tell that to the million plus ps4 preorders,better yet the 32 launch countrywide release for the ps4(13 for MS) or the system with the most power the ps4.and if MS x1 was the the stronger system,trust me they would have said it already.
koolaid251  +   827d ago
Powah of the cell we have the Powah now lmfao. Yall dudes are too funny on N4g.
HugoDrax  +   827d ago
Under the consoles hood has always had current hardware from Sony's camp. That's why Sony TVs were the best in my opinion. Now the competition has caught up with Sony in that department. I have a Sony XBR5 TV from 2010 I believe, but I'm digging the Samsung Smart TVs with the thin bezel. I also like the Vizio Cinema Wide TVs as I own over 200 Blu Rays, which would get rid of the black bars at top and bottom.

Also what entails stronger? Hard drive size? Ram? Durability? Processor? Service?Elaborate, as I'm confused about what signifies a console being STRONGER?
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DEEBO  +   827d ago
graphics my good you don't know what i'm saying.better,stronger hardware.MS knows the x1 is the weaker system that's why they said specs don't matter because their specs are less then the ps4.
HaMM4R  +   827d ago
When he says stronger I assume he means more powerful, which no doubt the PS4 is.
HugoDrax  +   827d ago

Gotcha! I guess that does make sense. That is why they said specs don't matter. Well then why did the say

"The best games are on XB1" recently in that add released a few days ago? According to this site, Sony is offering the best of everything.


Gotcha! Well that's expected as the PS3 was more powerful than the X360 as well. Sony does do a good job of marketing what matters and that's games. The rest of their entertainment features always take a back seat to games. It's the opposite for MS, as they have always been focused on trying to merge entertainment features with games. Anyhow appreciate the response, about to go play Splinter Cell some more on my day off.
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yellowgerbil  +   827d ago
this article is obviously a fail so won't give him the page view.
Rime>everything X1 showed.
Sony execs= people that seem sincere and actually play games
MS execs= robots and stereotypical 80s stock brokers
Ripsta7th  +   827d ago
" it seems to me Microsoft has come out of GamesCom in a far greater, and stronger, position than what it had before it went into it." This does not mean they won gamescon, it just means they had to make changes which now seems great but should have been since the beggining
pyramidshead  +   827d ago
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chrissx  +   827d ago
Lol which gamescon did m$ win? This year? I must have watched a totally different one then. there is nothing sensible about this article.
RandomDude655  +   827d ago
You probably did....since they didn't have one.
gaelic_laoch  +   827d ago
Should read

'How Microsoft think they Won GamesCom 2013 but Still Lost the War'
ipe  +   827d ago
Some delusion ...

When ps4, hardware, software destroys charts we ll be seeing diff.tune.

No more 16 months or, 200 price advantage 4 ms.

Game over Xbots.
koolaid251  +   827d ago
Competition is good if there wasn't a xbox1 to push sony the imagine where we would be.
okmrman  +   827d ago
if knack is such a genius
how the hell did he think of something as horrible as knack?
DEEBO  +   827d ago
maybe because he was making the ps4 and a game to go with it at the same that's a real game developer. mark you are the man.
Phoenix76  +   827d ago
I'm more than happy to wait till the end of feb before I buy a next gen system. Not only because its close to my B-day. But I may also find some of those launch titles and a lower price :-) y rush lol
VforVideogames  +   827d ago
So now by including FIFA on X-1 makes a ps4 only 40dlls cheaper and I think Kinect camera its worth 40 bucks so I think the X-1 its a hell of deal.
DinoNYC  +   827d ago
This article is a joke. Complete bias and no mention of what sony announced.
GoodnessGreatness  +   827d ago
They never won, they just think they did lol.
metalgod88  +   827d ago
I hate articles like this so much. There is no winning. Either your conference sucked or it didn't. Both were good in my book and the only winner from this bitter rivalry is the gamers.

If there was no competition for Microsoft, then all their old policies would have stayed put most likely. The gamers would have suffered completely.

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