The Xbox One is actually more powerful than the PS4

You’d be forgiven for looking at the raw hardware specs of both consoles - which on paper - Sony’s upcoming PlayStation 4 looks to have the upper.

Whilst we won’t see the full potential of the physical hardware until late in the cycle – with golden late releases such as The Last of Us – the Xbox, this time, has an unmatchable advantage out the gate which is miles up from raw hardware...

... It’s the Xbox Live Cloud.

[Pintheshadows]

Not this nonsense again. Yes, the cloud is a good service for doing minimal processes. No, it won't exponentially increase the power of a piece of hardware.

Intel are still in a prototyping stage with regards to Cloud based hardware performance augmentation.

[xHeavYx]

Please, here we go again. The magic cloud will save the day.
This website logic is "Da Cloudz = dedicated servers = most powerful console evah!"

[Skips]

Apparently "tEh CloUUDS" have more to do with the power of the hardware than the ACTUAL HARDWARE ITSELF...

lmfao!!!

[Enemy]

I saw cloud, laughed, and clicked out. Poor idiots thinking "server power" is going to make better looking games.

The specs are out and it's said and done. Xbox One is the weaker platform.

[aaron5829]

Please.. dont underestimate the

wait for it..

Da Powerz Of Da CloudszzzzZZZzz... !!

:P

[devwan]

There would be no need to upgrade from 360 to Xbox One if the cloud could perform such magic.

[abzdine]

Da Pawaaah af Da Clawwwwd makes X1 more powerful than 10 X1.
seriously, i can do nothing but facepalm

[DragonKnight]

*A gamer, a journalist, and two Microsoft executives are laying out on the grass looking up at the sky on a warm summer day*

Gamer: Hey, that one looks like Mario jumping on a Goomba.

Journalist: No it doesn't, it looks like a woman being objectified by the patriarchy by being scantily clad and needing rescue.

Microsoft Exec A: You're both wrong.

Gamer: Well what do you see?

Microsoft Exec B: Power.

Microsoft Exec A: And we can market that.

Journalist: Hey can I quote you on that and spin it in my article by using a sensationalist title?

And thus we arrive at this moment in time.

[sinjonezp]

Im tired. Tired of the back and forward non sense about which console is more powerful. Its like hey my john is bigger than yours. No wait. When its warm outside mines is bigger than yours. Who cares. The only thing that matter is she satisfied. Just like gamers. If you want an x1 and you want to spend 500 bucks plus year gold, plus play and charge kit for both sticks, plus games, etc. That is on you. If you want to spend 400 bucks plus PS+ get a bunch of free to play games,that is on you. Both systems will have the cloud so this topic is irrelevant. The only thing that matters is what games matter for you.

[tokugawa]

what amazes me is that these nonsense articles ALWAYS seem to be found by and posted by the worst sony trolls on n4g..

which always sets the alarm bells ringing.

without sounding like a butthurt xbox fanboy, but i honestly believe that they are part of their fabrication to continue the "idiot war" in the trenches

[mp1289]

Sony has a cloud too, its just that they decided to invest more on the hardware to begin with. I mean if the cloud is so powerful, why even have next gen consoles?

[devwan]

@sinjonezp But the cloud is like the One's Viagra, when your hardware just doesn't cut it m$'s has their little blue magic fluffy pills.

Satisfaction guaranteed*

*Actual satisfaction may vary.

[thechosenone]

Oh f**k not this sh*t again. I can't believe this dude is trying to argue this BS again...the cloud. :lol

[tokugawa]

leave it out.

look at that site and when that "article" was wrote.

smh.

it was wrote 1hr ago!!!! and just happened to be found by natureoflogic???

read the about us section.

ANYONE can write on that site.

100% certain, that rubbish was wrote by the poster

[ProjectVulcan]

All I'll say is that if the cloud were such an enormous performance advantage, why would Microsoft even bother to increase their GPU clocks by a measely 6 percent. Seems a whole lot of potential bother if you are confident your cloud will destroy the competition.

Or that the very fact Xbox one has a bluray drive says that Microsoft are not quite confident and ready enough to give up physical copy distribution.

Ask yourself why? Maybe because a large proportion of their markets internet connections are horribly insufficient to just download 20+GB games?

So they know that the internet connections of a lot of people are pretty mediocre. Yet the cloud will be the greatest thing since sliced bread apparently.

Hmmm. Yea. Ok.

[PONTIAC08G8GT]

I'll wait to pass judgement on the cloud once it's actually put to use. Maybe it will be useful and awesome, maybe it will be a flop like HD-DVD.

[AngryTypingGuy]

Has Microsoft demonstrated the "power of the cloud"? I have yet to see any visuals that the PS4 shouldn't be able to beat or at least match. If the cloud can make visuals that beat the hell out of PS4 you would think that MS would at least give a demonstration to wow everybody even if it wasn't quite ready for the public yet.

[cell989]

DA.....CLOUDZZZZZZZZZ!!!! pure POWARZ for your xbone

[Kryptix]

lol Did anyone else laugh when they read; "... It’s the Xbox Live Cloud."? lol

According to Xbox Magazine, teh cloud is equalz to three Xbox Onez!!!1!

Link below. lol

http://www.oxm.co.uk/54748/...

[strifeblade]

Both consoles have their pros and cons and sony may have powerful hardware but xbox really does have cloud or an 11 billion dollar mitlifunctional cloud service which at the very least is offering dedicated servers for call of duty and numerous other 3rd party multiplat games which in contrast sony do not have.

You may not care but the 12 million yearly call of duty buyers on ps4 do and i have seen a number of them consider jumping board to xbox one judging by the message boards.

The cloud will not make xbox more powerful but it will open the door to new experiences as well as the kinect and the slew of features that come along with it.

PS4 besides the slightly stronger specs has nothing else going for it. No servers from sony can offer dedicated servers for 3rd party- they do not have kinect/eye system included to open new experiences- the controller runs on old bluetooth tech compared to msoft wifidirect. 100$ more and this is what i am paying for.

[Gamingcapacity]

MS is setting up a pretty big cloud network but it wasn't made for the X1. There is a lot of money in cloud services and MS have built the cloud service to make money not soley for the X1.

If Sony can't make a huge Cloud based network, it doesn't mean they can't get access to one... at a cost of course. Use of the cloud from other providers isn't out of the question is Sony need to. The question is will they need to?

[mewhy32]

well lookie here. another cloud article. LOL. micro$oft really blew it this time. I mean they were going to make everyone be connected all the time and that would have let them use the cloud. But not now. that 180 left developers with the fact that they may or may not be selling to someone that is connected to the "cloud" and as a result have to develop without that requirement. LOL. :> another micro$oft fail.

[pixelsword]

Then why didn't any game in E3 specifically show the power of the cloud?

[user5575708]

so if developers build games for xbox one based on the use of these cloud data centers to improve processing...then wouldn't there be a problem when playing offline?

[nveenio]

The only cloud that will help gaming is Gaikai, because it is built to stream games live with low latency. Azure is not. It is built to handle things like player positions (allowing more players) and things like that. It doesn't do the graphical work.

PS4 has Gaikai.

Xbox One does not.

Whose cloud is better for gaming?

[Skips]

I know right!!! XD

[rdgneoz3]

First story from this site and its such a winner...

Here's a good read,
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

Gives an idea what the cloud can be used for. One of the main things is what we're seeing currently, "dedicated servers." Though the PS3 has had dedicated servers for pretty much all its 1st part games, and PC players have been enjoying them as well in things like MMos...

[Kleptic]

FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE POSTED THAT!!!!

So, by the logic of this article...the PSN has had equal 'cloud services' since it launched in 2006 with resistance fall of man...this is just marketing, and nothing more...

MS takes dedicated servers...something thats been around for decades...calls it 'The Cloud'...and i love the part where it says 'MS realized that player hosted servers was holding everything back'...yeah, it was, and it was ONLY ms that made devs/publishers jump through huge hoops to get dedicated servers on XBL...Sony, since day 1 with PSN...has simply said... 'sure'...

[strifeblade]

LOL grasping at straws are we? any company can rent dedicated servers if they need them. Sony rented them and paid the price as well as mantaining them.

The difference this time around is that msoft owns all the dedicated servers and their infrastructure is large enough to offer it to 3rd party for dirt cheap to give them an incentive to using it. LOOK AT CALL OF DUTY- perfect expample of third party using microsoft's servers to their advantage while sony cannot offer servers for the same price since sony do not own an 11 billion dollar infrastructure. So yeah it makes a difference. The cool thing about azure is that it can change and grow with its user base and msoft can adjust how many servers support xbox live.

[Kleptic]

grasping at straws?...I think you're being pretty mislead...

XBL by no means is offering this for 'cheap'...and Sony has NEVER 'rented' dedicated servers for themselves...Apparently you never saw the server banks for very early PS3 games...Warhawk's consisted of thousands of networked PS3's...in 2007...Killzone 2 and Resistance 2 even more...nearly all first party PS3 games with dedicated servers used higher spec dev kits for hosting...New reports say it'll be similar with the PS4...so, is sony renting their own hardware...from...themselves?

While its true that these servers would need to be rented by third party publishers...the PSN allowed publishers to integrate their own hosting systems into the PSN...where XBL charged for this...Confirmed by Midway/Epic with UT3, and a primary reason the game was delayed on 360...

MS is just doing typical MS control with its 'cloud services'...they'd rather do it themselves, and charge more for it...Titanfall is being published by EA...you think EA had any trouble before running their own dedicated server networks? Battlefield has been doing it on consoles for years...now XBL rents these to publishers instead...same shit, different pile...

don't fall for the PR...that is all it is...Sony still allows publishers to seamlessly integrate and handle multiplayer in to the PSN without much trouble, but it is their own burden...MS still would prefer publishers just hand everything over and let them do it...at a substantial cost...the end result will be the same...and I promise, this has NOTHING to do with Titanfall's timed exclusivity...

[colonel179]

Whoever wrote this article doesn't know how "the Cloud" works! Also, how can they not realize that whatever they are thinking the Cloud is, Sony could do the exact same thing...

[aaron5829]

well.. some people are in denial..

[Death]

Sony could do the same thing. If they had money to do it. Sony is not in a good place financially for quite some time now. So yeah, in theory Sony could use the cloud, but financially it isn't happening anytime soon.

[Ryto]

Sony is reporting profits of 7.9 trillion yen (£52.7 billion) for the year.
Read more at http://www.trustedreviews.c...

Simple google and you'll see that Sony are now doing very well indeed.

[tuglu_pati]

Oh boy its about to rain.... :/

[aaron5829]

Damn the cloud !

[RememberThe357]

In Seattle we have lots of clouds. Thats why MS is giving them out "virtually free."

Recently it's been hot as f*ck! I was wondering where all the clouds went, Amazon and MS took em all!

[Thegamer41]

You cant say Xbox is more powerful than the PS4, then say its an opinion, its either more powerful or its not.
How could an article like this be under opinion piece.

[JunioRS101]

Mark Cerny reads articles like this, laughs to himself, closes his laptop...

Pushes himself back away from his desk, walks out onto his marble balcony, lights a cigarette...

Looks over to Shuhei, who is eating Fruity Pebbles with a Siamese cat on his lap, and says, "Fuckin' fanboys."

[dcj0524]

Jack tretton holding a tommy gun with andrew house next to him. Both in tuxedos then walk into the room both saying:It's time to make it rain.

[jjb1981]

That's funny stuff, made me laugh out loud

[JunioRS101]

@ dcj0524

LOL!! That is fucking priceless lol

I could make truly epic comedies if I could record my ideas into a movie I swear lol

I looove over the top comedy. Best kind

[ABeastNamedTariq]

I lost it at Fruity Pebbles, lmao. I can actually imagine him sitting there, chillin, eating that.

[McScroggz]

Cerny doesn't strike me as a man who cusses.

[IcicleTrepan]

most retarded thing I've ever seen posted anywhere. Get a life.

[tokugawa]

agreed icicle

but what is sadder is the fact people thought that it was funny

[Kryptix]

lol That made me laugh. See how icicle and tokugawa reacted cause the word "fanboys" was mentioned. Can't say they don't have a sense of humor, they're just butthurt to be a part of those delusional Microsoft fanboys.

[tarbis]

@IcicleTrepan & tokugawa
And yet both of you are here. Congratulations on your new found life. :D

[No FanS Land]

It is more powerful really...

so long as you have an internet connection DUH! (could be part of the reason why the console is releasing in not many territories.

Can't believe everyone is hyping the cloud service so much. if it really proves to be this useful then why isn't it applied to the 360?

[KonsoruMasuta]

Bien! It's ze powah of ze clouds. It's so magnifique!

[princejb134]

What if the online service goes down
Then what

[twinspectre]

so the Author think with the power of Cloud Xbox can compete even against PC Power seems Legit -_-
PS4 > Xbox One even AMD said that
but CloudPOWAH will work only with a Internet Connection
hmmm....

[Ryto]

haha youre right! Next they'll be saying the cloud could out perform a gaming Pc with x4 titans!

When will it end!

[PFFT]

AMD said that when???

[JsonHenry]

Distributed computing is powerful. Really powerful. But I think the internet broadband service across much of the world is just too slow to see the potential that "the cloud" has to offer.

I'll place my bet on who has what under the hood of the actual console myself for now. But I would love to be proved wrong.

[jerethdagryphon]

Distributed computeing is imensly powerful its also immensly fiddly if I wanted a book report dont on I dont know war and peace I could read it myself or tear out each page and have you each readone and give me a synopsis then put them together to make my report. Thats disributed computing cloud computing is needing a bookreport on war and peace and going to bookreports whileu wait.com and having there lot of readers read and synpois it sending me the final thing.

Cloud computing or another term for it an older prenetwork one mainframe and terminals
Is that
Work is done off site and handed back to you. Ready for display
Yes in theroy each machine becomes infinitly more powerful as all the work is done on massivly powerful servers and sent to you.

But the problem lies in the whole sent to you part lag latency timeouts high pings dropped packets all this clogs up the speed cauong effectivly buffering and load errors ... please waite physics .ddl is being streamed ... lighint .dll was interupted please wait...

Thats an exageration but a possibility of the type of issues . Then when that occurels the terminal machine has to quickly do the work itself to keep things moving.

Yea all sorts of compression and streaming tech exists but its still far from amiricle

[2cents]

The proof is in the pudding,

Let's just wait and see what MS cloud is capable of before we start claiming its the best thing since sliced bread. There is a long way to go before there is any actual evidence this.

The potential is exciting but there is nothing to show as of now.

[Jrxbarrett]

Don't be mad.

[Cueil]

it's not nearly as non-sense as you think... Nvidia just showcast it's ability to cloud source real time lighting... in 5-7 years we will be much further along on outsourcing computational data

[Pintheshadows]

Indeed they did but read the interviews surrounding that demonstration and you will see that it is a very long way off.

[Ryto]

It's not practical with realistic variables. Internet speed, latency, bandwith. What's more likely is having Gaikai games totally in the cloud which are rendered graphically superior, that could happen in a couple of years. but interaction between software computed on the xbone/ps4 and information in the cloud... no.

I'm not technically minded but common sense just screams no.

[Cueil]

remember when the Xbox 360 launched... I think that the difference in broadband quality and penetration is huge... I expect in 5-7 years when these consoles really start to hit their limits we'll see cloud computational data being used more and more

[Deadpoolio]

Idiots really need to STOP misinforming people about the power of the damn cloud.....Especially the morons who think it's going to have anything to do graphically with the Xbox One80...Azure has nothing to to with the GPU or graphics period....The only thing it's gonna do is help matchmaking slightly

[DonFreezer]

Well I have a feeling if Sony was talking about the cloud you would all scream to it's name.

[Tito08]

There's have being early posts of Sony working with cloud computing, as is evidenced with their Gaikai acquisition, but we not going crazy and over-hyped about it like MS and their fanboys are, and in a lot of ways, MS is very known for over exaggerating and making things sound bigger than it actually is.

You don't see Sony over hyping things like the greatest invention since the creation of the wheel like MS usually does, like Peter Moore said before launching 360, "It'll have the greatest game launch lineup in videogame history" when it was in fact the worst.

[Admiral-Saudi]

I want believe that it's true but it's too hard to believe it.

[harrisk954]

You are so right... MS is once again passing out Kool-Aid and topping it off with overblown exaggerations... (and, yes, the PS4 can also use the "Power of the Cloud" ( http://gamingbolt.com/umbra... )

See:

http://www.networkworld.com...

and

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

"What's obvious at this point is that the concept of cloud computing looks uncertain and unlikely, and Microsoft needs to prove its claims with actual software. Yet based on what we've been told, the firm itself isn't sure of what uses to put it to, while the limitations of latency and bandwidth severely impede the benefits of all that computing power. Frequent references to Live and multiplayer gaming suggest a less exciting, though certainly valuable, use for Microsoft's new servers in providing better, conventional, multiplayer experiences. More players, adaptive achievements and intelligent worlds all sound great in theory, but we're certainly not seeing the notional results of a four-fold increase in Xbox One's processing power."

[r1sh12]

cloud based performance is a real thing.
AMD have a graphics server which can encode/ decode locally then send the decoded images to the workstation.
It does work well (I use it as part of my consulting job).
Now - The real question is, will it work with the average internet speeds in the world?
NO.
THe bandwidth required is just not high enough, so yes theory is there.
Practically the speeds required to achieve this will just not support it for the majority of consumers.

[tiffac008]

Well I guess its only for people with fast internet connection, in countries with good internet infrastructure.

[r1sh12]

@tiffac008 - Its hard to say whether internet connection will be the only factor.
I can see graphics being decoded elsewhere and then being piped to a console, actual computing and calculations are another thing due to the size of the calculations and the speed at which they are made is less likely (At least for now).

[JackStraw]

thanks captain obvious.

[tarbis]

CPU to GPU then back to CPU data transfer already has latency what more transferring to an offsite then back. Facebook who has 180k+ servers while still adding daily is still shitty.

[Godchild1020]

Say the cloud is as good as they say, how many gamers will it benefit? You need an internet connection to utilize the cloud, but not all of us game online or will pay for an online subscription to play games online.

[JoGam]

Thats why its called an Opinion Piece. This dude is just talking shit theories.

[GadgetGooch]

you dnt know shit pal

[ZeroX9876]

ok so, if I understand correctly, If I'm not connected online, my games will look like crap compared to others who are connected online.... they should add this feature to the list of Xbox live goodies:

Enhance graphics : Xbox live exclusive

Hell, why not just scrap the Xbox one and just give us an onlive console instead?

[imt558]

Not the cloud again....

[NextGen24Gamer]

Console architecture plays a HUGE part in how games will look & play. How about we wait until the games release, there are sure to be comparisons. Until then, I'll take the word from developer after developer who has stated that there is either NO difference or a slight difference. If there is a slight difference, it will ultimately come down to developers and how they optimize their games and utilize the consoles unique resources. But with that said, it will most likely be a difference you can't see. It will come down to devs making the best games.

Right now the best game I have seen...In regards to excited to actually PLAY since that's what Gamers do...Is TitanFall! It's not even releasing until spring but it looks more polished than any game I've seen launching for either console. That's INSANE!

[JackStraw]

titanfall doesn't look "polished" at all. many games didn't which is why so little gameplay has been shown for most games.

[SeanScythe]

Yeah right.
http://global3.memecdn.com/...

[dlocsta]

The most amazing thing about all of this cloud talk is the people building the games for the cloud taunt it as a viable enhancement but all of you people that don't work for, on, in, around, or with it are correcting them and letting them know how wrong they are. Tell you what, come back here in 18 months and tell us how it works; until then shut the hell up because you don't know just like I don't know.

[nosferatuzodd]

in a couple of years I'd be laughing so bad about all this cloud nonsense.
its like Microsoft paying ppl to talk rubbish has soon has the huma thing went out Ive seen article after article trying to justify xbox one wow first they beg amd to take back what they say then they pay some developer to say oh we have something similar now back to putting their heads in the cloud again poor microsoft

[NarcolepZZZZZZ]

Well, pick your console and go for it. Do we all need to be so petty and negative? HAVE YOU NOT SEEN GHOSTBUSTERS 2? There are consequences people! This whole site will be covered in pink slime.

[gcolley]

You have know clue, you are not even involved. How can you know the impact this will have?

[Blachek]

Microsoft has more invested in their online servers than Sony. That being said, Sony could easily develop a system that reduces latency for offloading computations and streamlines the systems to boost performance.

Microsoft has been more committed to the "cloud" than Sony however, look at their Annual Reports to verify. It's what they believe is the future of hardware and they are acting on it.

Both consoles can utilize the service, Microsoft has a larger infrastructure in place... whoever can overcome the latency issues associated with offloading massive amounts of computations first can take advantage of the performance boosts it will allow.

I do believe Microsoft will get there first, and I do think that this "cloud" buzz word they keep tossing around has a substantial amount of validity behind it.

[Amsterdamsters]

What about the amazing Sony hype machine that makes it sound like the PS4 is the new super computer when it's not even as powerful as my 18 month old desktop that can do far more than just play slightly enhanced PS3 games.

[NatureOfLogic]

Dem cloudz.

[Anon1974]

I use Microsoft Azure currently and it's turned my computer into...A SUPER COMPUTER!

Because that's how it works, right?

[Death]

Isn't that what Folding@home was all about? When Sony promoted cloud computing, they actually said they could replicate a super computer by doing it. Why is it when Microsoft offers the same technology for dedicated console use, it's a joke?

Honestly, it's not the passion that many Playstation fans have that keeps them from being looked at seriously, it's the double standards. Sony changes policies like charging for online play and it is listening to gamers. Microsoft changes policies due to gamer feedback and they are doing 180's with no direction.

[devwan]

@Death

Similar terms for different things.

[iceman06]

@Death...come on now really. There is a HUGE difference between what Sony did with using hundreds of connected PS3's to replicate a number crunching machine and what MS is attempting. There was no need for instant output with the "supercomputer" it was just an aggregate of data collected to provide insight into protein folding. With MS, they are not only trying to process (which isn't the problem) but send and receive in less or equal time than what the on board processors can do themselves. I'm sure it could be part of a future. But, that future includes a much more efficient internet infrastructure than what we have currently.

[Thehyph]

@Death
They are not the same.
They are the reverse, actually.

Folding@home was using your ps3 to assist in protein folding research by connecting it to the "cloud." The ps3 basically taking load away from the cloud.

Azure is touted as taking the load off your console and putting it on the cloud.

As I've said before, the problem with cloud computing for real time simulations is latency. Not bandwidth.

Anyone who doesn't know what I mean, try this: open a command prompt (cmd in "Run") on a Windows PC and type: tracert n4g.com
See all of those IP addresses and DNS'? That's the routing between you and this website. Notice the times; these add up to give you your lag. Your bandwidth does not really affect these numbers. If you have 5MBPS internet or 500MBPS internet, these numbers aren't really going to change much. The architecture of how you connect to things on the internet has to be changed or streamlined to do real time calculations.

Forget the idea of fanboys. Do some research on how fast things are done internally on any computing device, and then compare it to network latency.

I'm not saying it can't be done in theory, but in the real world we have a long ways to go.

[GarrusVakarian]

http://s.pikabu.ru/images/b...

[shadow18spirit]

The xbox fans are trying really hard to convince themselves that xbox is the best

[negative]

You just can't handle the fact that your employer Sony has some competition. I mean you do work for Sony, right???

[aaron5829]

and you work for MS ?

[godofboobees]

You had one bubble to say something smart yet you blew it. I so disappoint

[joeorc]

@negative

At least we have a sense of Huma!

AMD's Senior Product Marketing Manager Marc Diana said that the PS4 had shipped with a sense of Huma [Heterogeneous Uniform Memory Access] from AMD.

http://www.fudzilla.com/hom...

[PFFT]

Its highly doubtful AMD would stoop so low and actually make a stupid fanboy remark. There is no doubt these words are from a Sony fanboy rather than a profession working for AMD.

*EDIT*

Nevermind i guess they did. BUT still that shit was a bit too unprofessional since LIKE Sony MS is too paying AMD for their GPU and CPU. Microsoft should have gone with NVIDIA.
By the way i dont know if you have read the article BUT it seems the Xbox One too can pull off hUMA in one form or the other.

[Tito08]

@Negative-Your username & 1 bubble says a lot about you.

@PFFT-How you want MS to go with Nvidia, it likely make the machine more expensive and btw Nvidia has being talking crap about both consoles, and hyping up PC, btw, there's nothing wrong with what AMD said, likely Nvidia would have done the same thing, it's all politics in the business world.

[H0RSE]

But they already are convinced it is "the best" same with Sony fans with PS4. Each side see's their respective system as the better alternative. Now based on data sheets and specs on paper, PS4 seems more powerful, and therefore, Sony fans use this to fuel their "PS4 is the best console" argument, but it really proves nothing. A good example is the m/kb vs controller argument.

In the m/kb vs controller argument, m/kb technically outperform a controller in virtually every aspect - they are more responsive, faster, more accurate, etc. and this can all be verified through tests. The analog sticks of a game controller can only do so much, and simply cannot compete with the performance that comes from an optical/laser device, yet when you present these facts to console players, it has little effect on their opinion and they still choose controller over mouse. Many will even acknowledge that the mouse is better at those things, yet they still prefer to use a controller.

So regardless if PS4 is more powerful and "better" from a technical standpoint (which hasn't actually been proven other than on paper) it means little in the grand scheme, since the whole "console war" is largely based around personal preference.

Besides, how many people go out to buy a console with hardware specs being the determining factor? If hardware specs were such an important factor, you'd just choose PC. The majoirty of players choose consoles based off which games and features/services they offer. Those touting the "superior specs" argument, are largely just using it to gain points for their side, even though it is essentially a non-issue.

[PSVita]

This is a matter of facts not opinions.

[H0RSE]

You completely missed the point...

As I showed in the m/kb vs controller part of my post, regardless of facts, people are going to choose what they want, because other than facts there are preferences. Sony fans can post system specs all day long, and although it may be a fact that PS4 has stronger hardware, it does not make it fact that PS4 is the overall better console, and even if it did, there are still going to be people that choose the other alternative.

Does the PS4 allow me access to XBL? Can I play games like Titanfall and Ryse? Does it come packaged with an Xbox controller? Can I use Kinect? See, these are things where all your spec sheets and hardware numbers don't amount to anything. PS4 may be a more powerful console, but a better console just because of that? Not quite...

[Kingdom Come]

Being a multi-platform gamer, I can look at the comments on this site in a more openly subjective manner, and actually, Sony fans are persistently the least mature, down voting all pro-Xbox comments, trolling Xbox related articles etc. Microsoft and Sony are releasing fantastic consoles, each with their own advantages and disadvantages, neither is perfect. This site would be so more appealing if fanboys stuck to their own part of the site, it feels almost impossible to have a civilised, unbiased discussion regarding gaming...

[twinspectre]

yes, but Microsoft is trying to fuck their own fanbase with Ryse Microtransaction and Forza 5 DLC

[Lazarus69]

Being a multi-platform gamer i can look at the comments on this site in a more openly subjective manner.Both sets of fanboys are as bad as each other really.However the Xbox fanboy side appear to whine and troll alot more

[ThatCanadianGuy514]

Mod sure was quick to single handedly approve this dupe.Good job nineball.

A paragraph quoting respawn about discounted servers makes xbox more powerful.

Just LOL! The things these guys pull out are just hilarious at this point.

[AAWELLS09]

Who cares man? If you guys disagree, why cant you all just overlook it? Instead of posting "LOL" and "Dem Clouds". It just makes you all look like immature kids. Some of you guys are just ridiculous. Grow up guys.

[KonsoruMasuta]

I know man. These guys are so immature.

The clouds really works. I'm used azure on my computer and it transformed into a robot with artificial intelligence and human like emotions.

[AAWELLS09]

@Konsoru I never said that i agree with the article.

[ForgivenZombie]

Delusional.

[iamnsuperman]

I can't believe people are still writing about this. The majority of the article seems to be about dedicated servers which doesn't mean power (It is good though). The offloading stuff has been talked about but not seen (except for Drivatars which is still needs to be reviewed to see the benefit of such a move)

[moparful99]

Honestly Drivatar is no different than Bspec mode that has been in Gran Turismo for years now.. In B spec mode the game actually learns your driving habits and takes telemetry from the commands that you give to create an artificial driver that plays for you.. I remember doing a 24 hr race at Nurburgring in GT4 using B spec and I ended up winning the race by 26 laps because I spent a lot of time building my B spec profile.. Its a cool feature but nothing that makes me want to go out and buy an XBONE and Forza 5 as soon as possible.. Its all just PR speak and buzz words to try and promote the XBONE, nothing more..

[Kenshin_BATT0USAI]

Is this a satire piece? Because it seriously reads like one.

[No FanS Land]

Man that last sentence! :

"This dedication by Microsoft to tackling game development issues may surprise the critics."

it does feel like a satire! hahaha

[ziggurcat]

hasn't it been established that "teh clowdz" is nothing more than dedicated servers, and doesn't really do anything to boost the console's performance?

[Deadpoolio]

Anyone with even an elementary school knowledge of computers knows that the cloud isn't going to do anything more than that, maybe have some effect on game Ai but that's doubtful since it would require you to be connected the entire game...

The morons who keep saying it will have an effect on Graphics are mentally retarded, Azure is sure as hell NOT designed to enhance the graphics of anything....I believe it's Nvidia who are the only ones working on a GPU based cloud service

[us_army]

why do these get approved.... please pull down for the love of god

[Caleb_H]

I couldn't agree more.

[JohnS1313]

Not more cloud crap. Give up already. The cloud does nothing. It's a marketing gimmick.

[Caleb_H]

DA CLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUU UUUUUDDDDDDDDD

[gamingisnotacrime]

hope its true

MS needs SOMETHING positive going for the xbone

[okmrman]

Or just get both systems and enjoy gaming as it should be

[frostyhat123]

*grabs popcorn*

[Nykamari]

To Hell with popcorn, best way to watch a fight is with some cold beers and good green! *flick puff puff, chug* enjoy the show!

[XtraTrstrL]

It's not looking good for Xbox. Even if the cloud ends up being some insane thing that makes up for most of the power gap, PS4 is getting it too.

Sony is working with Rackspace to create scalable Openstack compute servers for them. Which will do basically the same thing Xbone's Azure servers can do. So, that possible cloud power advantage is about to be out the window.

[Pintheshadows]

As I said in my opening comment, Intel are still only in a PROTOTYPING stage with regards to Cloud based hardware performance augmentation.

Sony and MS have nothing on Intel in this department so I doubt their R and D divisions have found something the guys at Intel haven't.

Here is a fact. The MS Cloud will be used for saves, dedicated servers and not much else. Same goes for Sony plus the delivery of old games. I'm so sick of this fantasy land idea that the Cloud as it stands can improve a piece of hardware's performance.

In five years it will be around but developing. It will take at least another 5 to become the norm. It isn't like it is hard to look this stuff up. This is some seriously advanced tech we are talking about. Not something you'll find associated with a 2013 $499 console.

Try a prototype piece of equipment specifically designed around the idea of cloud based performance. I wouldn't like to think of how much that would be right now.

[jerethdagryphon]

You could use cloud on one time load assests like base terain and such to reduce loadtimes as netlag will be less but not much on the fly

[andreasx]

Here we go again with the cloud... http://s2.n4g.com/media/11/...

[Kyosuke_Sanada]

Clouds are all we need......

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[Devilbringer]

The Xbox one is more powerful then the ps4

It's the xbox live Cloud

make sense /s

[iamnsuperman]

I am shoving my 360 into the air. Come on clouds

(just a bit of a joke)

[Nykamari]

You are *Superman* right? Why don't you fly it up there?jk lol

[PR_FROM_OHIO]

LMFAO!!!! haha what's funny is people are acting like Sony doesn't support cloud themselves! So whatever the cloud can do for Xbox1 Sony's cloud service can do right?

[Izzy408]

no.

[Drekken]

How do you sleep at night?

[Izzy408]

@Drekken

I just lay down and close my eyes. There's really nothing to it.

[bitboi]

Does it really matter? You cannot sit here and say the PS4's graphics don't look just as good as what XB1 can do. They're practically at the same level and we're at a point where all these new games coming out look great. It's dumb that this debate still goes on...

[ABeastNamedTariq]

Sure, but come on. This "article" is just pathetic.

[solidworm]

LOL priceless.

[spektical]

This is ridiculous. Many people are not qualified to talk about the cloud, because they miss the basic notion of bandwidth\speed being a huge factor in how much "augmentation" the cloud can add.

On top of that, Sony will also have cloud services. Microsoft Azure.. well lets just say at least its better than their ridiculous Microsoft Service Bus, which pointers where taken from... which already terrifies me. Programming with that POS is just terrible.

[Pintheshadows]

They also miss the fact that it is still prototype tech at one of the most renowned computing companies. What these people are claiming is that MS has somehow created a technology which most people accept is at least a decade off being ready for consumer distribution.

[Mr-Dude]

Indeed, the idea however is good but the technology isn't so far that it can take over say 20 or 30% of the XBONE power so that it can process more power. Maybe the other next-gen (year 2020) but for now, no. Not to mention that MS wouldn't be the first company to look into this (Intel, Nvidia, AMD etc)
Not to begin with the slow internet some countries have, malfunctions or other things with their internet. It takes a lot of bandwidth to stream the dreams MS has with their cloud.

[GryestOfBluSkies]

*yawn*

until they can show, with video proof, that the cloud makes a significant difference, im still going to call the power of the cloud a PR claim.

maybe we'll find out from forza players. they can do an online vs offline test on the 'advanced ai from the cloud'

[aaron5829]

bu..bu..but..

all that cloud and no rain !

[yellowgerbil]

it was storming ealier. Lightning and pouring rain. Those were some POWERFUL clouds. MS Ain't got nothin' on mother nature.

[NeloAnjelo]

Oooooh... Da Cloud!

This thing CANNOT and WILL NOT increase power. Stop buying into this BS.

The only thing it can help with is limited AI and rendering at the most. This will also vary greatly depending on your Internet connection.

Raw power of the hardware is what gives superior performance.

[clmstr]

wow. just wow.
who even approves this?

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I swear N4G is a parody of the gaming community.

[BattleTorn]

Agreed. It's the Nature of Logic ;)

[Pintheshadows]

I see the same deluded nonsense across a myriad of gaming sites. It isn't just here. IGN, Gamespot, Edge, Eurogamer etc.

The only place i've had a decent convo about games is Rock, Paper, Shotgun.

[BelieveinGhosts]

lol, yeah N4g bias is pitiful but the worst website for fanboys has to be eurogamer hands down. Atleast here in N4G it is only about 80% Sony Fanboys, 10 % PC Elitists, 5% Xbox fanboys and 5 % nintendo fanoys.

On the other hand,Eurogamer is easily 100% full of Sony fanboys, even their editors and moderators are Sony fanboys too.

I Avoid Eurogamer because of this

[Saints94]

I think it says this article was made in a VERY short time.

[Devilbringer]

The Clouuds yes!

Rather smoke some heavy shit!

That would make me some good clouds right there

[Madara97]

We can all see Microsoft are smoking cloud and we can say the same about the xb1 fanboy of this article.

Microsoft - Who needs weed when you have the cloud!

[SliceOfTruth888]

Its amazing how sony fanboys just dont pay attention. The power of the cloud has everything to do with power and performance. The reason PS4 will not have dedicated servers is because sony doesn't have the resources to offer it. Yes PS+ gets you an amazing instant collection thats all fine and dandy but the reason iam paying that price is to play online and nobody is dumping more cash into that department than Microsoft.

What will this do well look at TitanFall respawn wanted an online powerhouse and Microsoft stole them away just because of the power of their network. What does the future hold?

The cloud will offer developers a chance to create worlds that your XBOX will connect to. So lets say a game like GTA. A developer could build the city with the cloud and your xbox would simply connect to it leaving all that power to other things. Characters, AI, missions, music whatever can be more powerful.

Sony has not shown anything close to this but they are going to charge you full price for an unproven network. I am sorry people but get your heads out of the sand and open your eyes.

[sAVAge_bEaST]

Gaikai?!?!!!?? (also sony is set to make Billions, They themselves said the will have "teh Clowd", only sony's cloud will be Exclusively for gaming, unlike Azure business)

[SliceOfTruth888]

Gaikai is a streaming service not anything close to what microsoft is doing......poor sony fanboys

[sAVAge_bEaST]

wow http://cdn.dualshockers.com...

[Xsilvermist]

Ur idiot we had cloud for years Microsoft is only improving online gaming through dedicated servers and improve A.I other stuff, where gaikai lets u stream massive library's of games which sounds more impressive and the cloud requires a internet connection where in some country's internet is lacking so how will the power of the console be based on the internet -_- more like poor xbox fanboys. I want a console that performs at its best when my internet goes down.

[jonboi24]

Gaikai is the fastest cloud-based gaming service in the world and hold the current Guiness record for most world spread cloud gaming network in the world. Gaikai was built for gaming, Microsoft Azure was not. Gaikai has more experience with cloud gaming than anyone in the world. If they can run high-end PC games on Internet browsers or TVs, then imagine what the can do for the PS4. Gaikai > Azure

[ABeastNamedTariq]

Ohhhh buddy you done did it now! LMAO, enough with his trash, fact is fact. PS4 > XB1 when it comes to raw specs.

[sAVAge_bEaST]

Teh Pwar of teh Clowd!!!!!!

(seriously?? I thought we were done with this meme)

[vigilante_man]

So the PS4 is more powerful than XB1. But with more power to call up from the MS cloud it can add power? Now I understand.

Some claims for next gen will be found out in a couple of years time. Some can be dismissed straight away. Wonder which one this is?

[okmrman]

The consoles are not even out yet. Calm down ladies
Lets go read some knack news

[The_Truth_24_7]

Well PS4 is future proof with the cloud streaming of Gaikai.

[brianunfried]

The cloud is only really used for A.I. and other calculation, not for graphics. Beside PS4 is getting it's own "Cloud" service in 2014.

[sigfredod]

Sci-fi article, LOL

[jay2]

lol giakia is with Sony, dip sh**s who keep this crap up, ONCE AGAIN http://www.polygon.com/2013... ps4 does cloud too.

[mt]

really

[ABeastNamedTariq]

It sure is a cloudy dayyy todayyyy! Lol

[saggysack79]

fuckoff

[TheFutureIsBlue]

Lies!

[kwiksilver99]

MOOOOOOOOAAAAARRRR POPCORN :)

[sorane]

And the fight for second place continues.....

[tigertron]

So by that logic, wouldn't cloud power make current gen consoles even more powerful than next-gen consoles?

[DJMarty]

lol, what utter tosh.

[speedninja]

sounds like rocket science level stuff, 5 billion transistors and the power of the cloud this thing is gona kill the PS4 and Kinect is the final nail in the coffin for the PS4 RIP Sony.

[Belking]

oh no, this won't go well here..lol

[zippycup]

cloud service might be the next best thing but what happens when developers rely too much on it and make the games to reliant on it

we use cloud service at my job we have multiple t3 and sometimes we get lag

or a server goes down and does it in a way that makes all other servers lag

what do we do then not play games ??

and also the writer stated that the ps4 is more powerful than xone but that the cloud servers will make it better than ps4 so that means that if sony also adds cloud to the ps4 then the ps4 is back on top right : )

[MasterCornholio]

O.O

The Cloud?

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha he he he he he he

ROFL LMAO

Im sorry but

Physical Hardware >> The magical cloud in fantasy land.

Thanks for the laugh though.

Edit: This has to be a joke article right?

[Xsilvermist]

-------________--------- here we go again its been stated multiple times the cloud cant increase the power of the hardware.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

This is why I hate console/fanboy wars. Regardless of which console is "more powerful" we are going to see endless amounts of articles going back and forth on which one is or isn't.... then add in the "why I am buying this console" articles. Games become less of the focus and news gets dominated by opinion based articles trying push their agenda as facts which benefits nobody.

[speedninja]

Once I've connected to the mighty powerful cloud with my xbox one, my processor and shitty DDR3 ram have to manage this data lucky my internet connection is faster than GDDR5

[Bhuahahaha]

if cloud is great like ms is trying to tell then why do we still need a next gen console?

a 360 is enough and use the cloud to enhance those game and let it run smoothly by the power of the cloud.

[jonboi24]

PS4 can do cloud computing too, Shuhei said. Chances are it won't be there day one but Gaikai is the fastest cloud gaming network in the world. Gaikai could trump XB1 cloud.

[AllroundGamer]

sure it is... by the power of grayskull!!!

[GraveLord]

No, it's not.

BTW, COD Ghosts will have dedicated servers on PS4 too so....yeah I don't know why you use that as some sort of argument. Dedicated servers have nothing to do with how powerful a console is.

[Ryto]

What nonsense! The cloud is wholly dependent on your internet, how could they produce games with heavily reliance on the cloud that would require high bandwith internet.. then someone with say a 5 MB ASDL line, although fine internet, would be useless!

Absolutely rubbish.

[RytGear]

If the power of the cloud is so infinite then why even bother making new hardware?
If what they are saying is indeed true then why not make the 360 into a next gen console? It doesnt work like that..

[Izzy408]

because not everyone will be playing online.

[RytGear]

What does that have to do with anything?
Not everyone will be playing online on the One.

[Izzy408]

You asked: what's the point of creating a console if the power of the cloud is so infinite. Well, the Xbox 360 is limited in terms of hardware. And in order to create bigger games, you need a more capable system. Hence, the X1.

So even though the cloud can be used to enhance games, the X1 is still needed in order to provide next gen games for gamers who will not be playing online.

[PositiveEmotions]

Isnt the gaikai cloud more advance than just a simple "cloud"?

[Kurylo3d]

Heres the problem with the cloud. Microsoft backtracked and said you dont have to be online now. So if online is not forced on you then games cannot be made to utilize the cloud .. unless of course u force those specific games on it.

[gamewizard99]

The cloud = dedicated servers. That is good but that is all the cloud can currently offer. If the cloud was so powerful microsoft would have used it with the 360.

[Tzuno]

Ha, the real differences will be in exclusives. As for multiplatform games you think that i care if the other have +1 pixel more than the other? this is just to awake the inner fanboy, like you gain something. Ha. do a smart move and sell your curent gen console and buy a really good gpu for your PC while you watch the consoles grow to maturity. I personally wait for slim just then those consoles will be better and with a actual catalog of good games to play.

[striped94]

Logged in just to report this website and give it negative feedback. Terrible story, just absolutely awful writing and opinion piece.

[walkincarpet]

So far MS is off to a good start with the cloud with drivatars in Forza and dedicated servers in Titanfall and COD Ghost. Improving lag alone is enough for me but I expect cloud related features to increase dramatically after the first year.

For now PS4 is still more powerful. X1 has the upper hand in every other category including controller, online service, and surprisingly exclusives. However, MS will have its work cut out during 2015 when Sony's big boys start releasing games.

[Jaqen_Hghar]

considering Sony has practically matched XBL without a paywall (X game chat being the only difference a man has experienced) and a man preferred the PS controller over Xbox this gen (everybody says DS4 is vastly improved on top of that) a man doesn't agree. Also KZ and Infamous have a man hyped more than any X1 exclusive.

[walkincarpet]

that's cool. I'll be shocked if Sony comes close to XBL as MS has been a generation ahead of PS in this area, but we'll see when they release. Controllers so subjective... I do like the Sony's for rpgs but now that MS finally fixed their dpad I don't think it will have any weaknesses while it will continue to dominate in FPS. As for games, I couldn't play killzone 2 very long because I have become accustomed to the vastly superior quality of halo and over the past few years COD and BF have surpassed Halo so that leaves KZ at the bottom of a big pile. While KZ SF looks superb we'll have see if these guys solved gameplay and AI issues that made their other games stink. I only played the first Infamous and again got bored so didn't finish it, but I heard Infamous 2 is head and shoulders improved so hopefully number 3 continues that trend. Actually one of my favorite experiences in current gen was Demon Souls on PS3, but the other ten belong to Xbox.

[vigilante_man]

So Sony are on cloud 9 at the moment with their 32 country release and Microsoft have their heads in the clouds!!

[milehighshooter]

who gives a fuck if it wasn't for MS or sony we would be playing kids games on the stupid wii u that was a waste of money i have that shit in its box under my bed its a good thing to have competition thats why I'm going to buy both just like i did with the xbox 360 and ps3 since day one

[IcicleTrepan]

this article was probably made simply for pure flaimbait to get the PS4 fans all riled up and clicking frantically through the article. We know the PS4 is more powerful. But who cares.

I love how these comments show the rampant PS4 fanboyism on this site though, 3+ pages of comments already lol

[_LarZen_]

I believe the cloud can make games better, but I have yet to see a game look better because of cloud technology.

[Reem]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Jaqen_Hghar]

A man pictured your avatar doing that

[TemplarDante]

Ok. Im calling it. The author of this article is out is his fucking mind.
Hey author, you sellout to gamers. You got paid by MS to spew garbage, didnt you? We know the cloud shit is a gimmick. Whats more, its hardware intensive on Xbone.
PS4 on the other hand has a Gaikai chip to harness "teh cloud". It would use it better than Xbone and not break a sweat.

[MALVAD0]

He was on crack when he write the article
cloooouuuuds pawa
move on nothing new to see here he was on drugs

[Supermax]

Hmm another tech site this one must be wrong too right.

[Kennytaur]

I can belive it's more powerful, as in it uses more watts. But in terms of processing power, nah.

[H3ADWOUND81]

Lol... The power of the cloud, a fairytale created by Microsoft to pull wool over consumers eyes and make their weak hardware seem more powerful than it actually is.. I feel sorry for anyone stupid enough to buy into it...

[lifesanrpg]

I'm tired, can this author just call himself stupid for me?

[jmac53]

This article is brought to you by Microsoft. Didn't Digital Foundry already debunk the cloud optimized graphics months ago when MS started this cloud PR campaign. Yes, it will work for AI but when it comes to rendering it's worthless

[Master-H]

It's all about teh Cloudz now, with it's 1000x power ..they should make the next Star Wars movie about teh Cloudz, rename it Cloud Warz, and have one black Death Cloud , i can see it now....Luke, Use Teh CloUd ! LoL

[ATi_Elite]

"Microsoft realized that player-hosted servers is actually holding back CONSOLE online gaming"

Us PC Gamers enjoy DEDICATED SERVER ONLINE GAMING.

OK U clowns go ahead and laugh at the cloud. I've seen what Nvidia and it's GRID is capable and that's just a drop of water in an ocean.

MS is on to something here.

Render Worlds, A.I., Physics, ect. on the Server thus allowing for the XB1 to have more resources to boost gameplay.

(Sorry their GPU is what it is and can't do more than what it's capable of so XB1 will never beat PS4 in graphics)

[sAVAge_bEaST]

Sony is investing in their own server farms ,.. This time next year they will both have "the cloud", so it's what ever.

[Stevino123]

Obviously..... in a parallel universe.

[thatruth86]

Actually this article can lick ballz

[quenomamen]

Lol, i think we all know who wants a free X1 come launch day. This guys a joke.

[kingPoS]

Those puffy white things in the sky.
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YEAH!!!
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I'm sorry, but just don't see the cloud as being faster than ram. Or quick enough to send bidirectional graphical computations over a latency ridden internet connection.

Maybe when the whole world has ultra high bandwidth from isp's... until then, it ain't happening.

[FrigidDARKNESS]

Well the x1 is more powerful than ps4 in another way. The x1 cpu/gpu and ram is very powerful. The x1 can do native 4k gaming compared to its competition. To give you an idea it took two nvidia Titans to do native 4k games.

http://www.theinquirer.net/...

[DoesUs]

Something along the lines of Pong maybe. Both of these consoles doing 4k would be the most basic of games......

[PONTIAC08G8GT]

Before I even read the article I knew this would turn into a flame war lol. Based on specs alone, X1 is less powerful. But the 360 was less powerful then the PS3 and it sold and did pretty well. Remains to be seen what the cloud can really do. It's going to be a fun generation of gaming.

[cyclindk]

I believe... cancels PS4 preorder, makes Xbone preorder x 10.

[Lboogieskells]

Pffft lol

[mistercrow]

This again? Teh cloud powahz. lol

[Destrania]

Bahahahahahahahahaha... *wipes tears from eyes* That was a good one.

[Izzy408]

here's a better joke.... the PS4

[Destrania]

Actually a better one would probably be your face lol.

[The_Sneauxman]

I'm not seeing the HUMA. I guess that's only a PS4 thing

[DOOMZ]

People keep forgetting about the Xbox One's ten billion dollar cloud computing. Its going to be an amazing console!

[arbitor365]

are xbots still not aware that gaikai is going up next year with full game streaming capabilities?

[Flames76]

I thought everyone already knew the Xbox One was more powerful than the PS4?Hell we all have seen the games on both platforms and the Xbox One blows the PS4 away.

[Jaqen_Hghar]

A man is just here to remind you that saying that doesn't make it true. KZ and Infamous look more stunning than anything a man has seen on Xbox and of course the Order has wowed with its physics. We haven't even seen Naughty Dog or SSM's games yet and considering what they did with GoW Ascension and LoU this year on PS3 with their other teams a man is holding his breath.

[noctis_lumia]

yeah sure then this guy woke up

dude plzzzzzz
we all know sony ps4 is the most powerful console nuff said.

[Gamer666]

These articles are useless...

We will not know until 3-5 years in the cycle which console truly has the power and potential to deliver that power.

It takes 3-5 years before developers fully tap out the capabilities of either console.

[radecGaming]

Then Explain Dead Rising 3 framerate ???!?!?!?!?!!?

[medman]

Said the crack addicted author of this lame article.

[The_Sneauxman]

Da CLOUDZ! Da CLOUDZ! The Xbone is not complete without teh power of teh cloud, which mind you requires online access. No DRM you say? huh?

[rammstein91]

garbage article