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Submitted by NatureOfLogic 323d ago | opinion piece

The Xbox One is actually more powerful than the PS4

You’d be forgiven for looking at the raw hardware specs of both consoles - which on paper - Sony’s upcoming PlayStation 4 looks to have the upper.

Whilst we won’t see the full potential of the physical hardware until late in the cycle – with golden late releases such as The Last of Us – the Xbox, this time, has an unmatchable advantage out the gate which is miles up from raw hardware...

... It’s the Xbox Live Cloud. (PS4, Xbox One)

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Pintheshadows  +   323d ago | Well said
Not this nonsense again. Yes, the cloud is a good service for doing minimal processes. No, it won't exponentially increase the power of a piece of hardware.

Intel are still in a prototyping stage with regards to Cloud based hardware performance augmentation.
xHeavYx  +   323d ago
Please, here we go again. The magic cloud will save the day.
This website logic is "Da Cloudz = dedicated servers = most powerful console evah!"
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Skips  +   323d ago
Apparently "tEh CloUUDS" have more to do with the power of the hardware than the ACTUAL HARDWARE ITSELF...

lmfao!!!
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Enemy  +   323d ago
I saw cloud, laughed, and clicked out. Poor idiots thinking "server power" is going to make better looking games.

The specs are out and it's said and done. Xbox One is the weaker platform.
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aaron5829  +   323d ago
Please.. dont underestimate the

wait for it..

Da Powerz Of Da CloudszzzzZZZzz... !!

:P
devwan  +   323d ago | Well said
There would be no need to upgrade from 360 to Xbox One if the cloud could perform such magic.
abzdine  +   323d ago
Da Pawaaah af Da Clawwwwd makes X1 more powerful than 10 X1.
seriously, i can do nothing but facepalm
DragonKnight  +   323d ago | Funny
*A gamer, a journalist, and two Microsoft executives are laying out on the grass looking up at the sky on a warm summer day*

Gamer: Hey, that one looks like Mario jumping on a Goomba.

Journalist: No it doesn't, it looks like a woman being objectified by the patriarchy by being scantily clad and needing rescue.

Microsoft Exec A: You're both wrong.

Gamer: Well what do you see?

Microsoft Exec B: Power.

Microsoft Exec A: And we can market that.

Journalist: Hey can I quote you on that and spin it in my article by using a sensationalist title?

And thus we arrive at this moment in time.
sinjonezp  +   323d ago
Im tired. Tired of the back and forward non sense about which console is more powerful. Its like hey my john is bigger than yours. No wait. When its warm outside mines is bigger than yours. Who cares. The only thing that matter is she satisfied. Just like gamers. If you want an x1 and you want to spend 500 bucks plus year gold, plus play and charge kit for both sticks, plus games, etc. That is on you. If you want to spend 400 bucks plus PS+ get a bunch of free to play games,that is on you. Both systems will have the cloud so this topic is irrelevant. The only thing that matters is what games matter for you.
tokugawa  +   323d ago
what amazes me is that these nonsense articles ALWAYS seem to be found by and posted by the worst sony trolls on n4g..

which always sets the alarm bells ringing.

without sounding like a butthurt xbox fanboy, but i honestly believe that they are part of their fabrication to continue the "idiot war" in the trenches
mp1289  +   323d ago
Sony has a cloud too, its just that they decided to invest more on the hardware to begin with. I mean if the cloud is so powerful, why even have next gen consoles?
devwan  +   323d ago
@sinjonezp But the cloud is like the One's Viagra, when your hardware just doesn't cut it m$'s has their little blue magic fluffy pills.

Satisfaction guaranteed*

*Actual satisfaction may vary.
thechosenone  +   323d ago
Oh f**k not this sh*t again. I can't believe this dude is trying to argue this BS again...the cloud. :lol
tokugawa  +   323d ago
leave it out.

look at that site and when that "article" was wrote.

smh.

it was wrote 1hr ago!!!! and just happened to be found by natureoflogic???

read the about us section.

ANYONE can write on that site.

100% certain, that rubbish was wrote by the poster
vulcanproject  +   323d ago
All I'll say is that if the cloud were such an enormous performance advantage, why would Microsoft even bother to increase their GPU clocks by a measely 6 percent. Seems a whole lot of potential bother if you are confident your cloud will destroy the competition.

Or that the very fact Xbox one has a bluray drive says that Microsoft are not quite confident and ready enough to give up physical copy distribution.

Ask yourself why? Maybe because a large proportion of their markets internet connections are horribly insufficient to just download 20+GB games?

So they know that the internet connections of a lot of people are pretty mediocre. Yet the cloud will be the greatest thing since sliced bread apparently.

Hmmm. Yea. Ok.
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PONTIAC08G8GT  +   323d ago
I'll wait to pass judgement on the cloud once it's actually put to use. Maybe it will be useful and awesome, maybe it will be a flop like HD-DVD.
AngryTypingGuy  +   323d ago
Has Microsoft demonstrated the "power of the cloud"? I have yet to see any visuals that the PS4 shouldn't be able to beat or at least match. If the cloud can make visuals that beat the hell out of PS4 you would think that MS would at least give a demonstration to wow everybody even if it wasn't quite ready for the public yet.
cell989  +   323d ago
DA.....CLOUDZZZZZZZZZ!!!! pure POWARZ for your xbone
HardTileD_   323d ago | Spam
Kryptix  +   323d ago
lol Did anyone else laugh when they read; "... It’s the Xbox Live Cloud."? lol

According to Xbox Magazine, teh cloud is equalz to three Xbox Onez!!!1!

Link below. lol

http://www.oxm.co.uk/54748/...
strifeblade  +   323d ago
Both consoles have their pros and cons and sony may have powerful hardware but xbox really does have cloud or an 11 billion dollar mitlifunctional cloud service which at the very least is offering dedicated servers for call of duty and numerous other 3rd party multiplat games which in contrast sony do not have.

You may not care but the 12 million yearly call of duty buyers on ps4 do and i have seen a number of them consider jumping board to xbox one judging by the message boards.

The cloud will not make xbox more powerful but it will open the door to new experiences as well as the kinect and the slew of features that come along with it.

PS4 besides the slightly stronger specs has nothing else going for it. No servers from sony can offer dedicated servers for 3rd party- they do not have kinect/eye system included to open new experiences- the controller runs on old bluetooth tech compared to msoft wifidirect. 100$ more and this is what i am paying for.
Gamingcapacity  +   323d ago
MS is setting up a pretty big cloud network but it wasn't made for the X1. There is a lot of money in cloud services and MS have built the cloud service to make money not soley for the X1.

If Sony can't make a huge Cloud based network, it doesn't mean they can't get access to one... at a cost of course. Use of the cloud from other providers isn't out of the question is Sony need to. The question is will they need to?
mewhy32  +   323d ago
well lookie here. another cloud article. LOL. micro$oft really blew it this time. I mean they were going to make everyone be connected all the time and that would have let them use the cloud. But not now. that 180 left developers with the fact that they may or may not be selling to someone that is connected to the "cloud" and as a result have to develop without that requirement. LOL. :> another micro$oft fail.
pixelsword  +   323d ago
Then why didn't any game in E3 specifically show the power of the cloud?
knockknockannefrank  +   323d ago
so if developers build games for xbox one based on the use of these cloud data centers to improve processing...then wouldn't there be a problem when playing offline?
inveni0  +   322d ago
The only cloud that will help gaming is Gaikai, because it is built to stream games live with low latency. Azure is not. It is built to handle things like player positions (allowing more players) and things like that. It doesn't do the graphical work.

PS4 has Gaikai.

Xbox One does not.

Whose cloud is better for gaming?
Skips  +   323d ago
I know right!!! XD
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rdgneoz3  +   323d ago
First story from this site and its such a winner...

Here's a good read,
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

Gives an idea what the cloud can be used for. One of the main things is what we're seeing currently, "dedicated servers." Though the PS3 has had dedicated servers for pretty much all its 1st part games, and PC players have been enjoying them as well in things like MMos...
Kleptic  +   323d ago
FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE POSTED THAT!!!!

So, by the logic of this article...the PSN has had equal 'cloud services' since it launched in 2006 with resistance fall of man...this is just marketing, and nothing more...

MS takes dedicated servers...something thats been around for decades...calls it 'The Cloud'...and i love the part where it says 'MS realized that player hosted servers was holding everything back'...yeah, it was, and it was ONLY ms that made devs/publishers jump through huge hoops to get dedicated servers on XBL...Sony, since day 1 with PSN...has simply said... 'sure'...
strifeblade  +   323d ago
LOL grasping at straws are we? any company can rent dedicated servers if they need them. Sony rented them and paid the price as well as mantaining them.

The difference this time around is that msoft owns all the dedicated servers and their infrastructure is large enough to offer it to 3rd party for dirt cheap to give them an incentive to using it. LOOK AT CALL OF DUTY- perfect expample of third party using microsoft's servers to their advantage while sony cannot offer servers for the same price since sony do not own an 11 billion dollar infrastructure. So yeah it makes a difference. The cool thing about azure is that it can change and grow with its user base and msoft can adjust how many servers support xbox live.
Kleptic  +   322d ago
grasping at straws?...I think you're being pretty mislead...

XBL by no means is offering this for 'cheap'...and Sony has NEVER 'rented' dedicated servers for themselves...Apparently you never saw the server banks for very early PS3 games...Warhawk's consisted of thousands of networked PS3's...in 2007...Killzone 2 and Resistance 2 even more...nearly all first party PS3 games with dedicated servers used higher spec dev kits for hosting...New reports say it'll be similar with the PS4...so, is sony renting their own hardware...from...themselves?

While its true that these servers would need to be rented by third party publishers...the PSN allowed publishers to integrate their own hosting systems into the PSN...where XBL charged for this...Confirmed by Midway/Epic with UT3, and a primary reason the game was delayed on 360...

MS is just doing typical MS control with its 'cloud services'...they'd rather do it themselves, and charge more for it...Titanfall is being published by EA...you think EA had any trouble before running their own dedicated server networks? Battlefield has been doing it on consoles for years...now XBL rents these to publishers instead...same shit, different pile...

don't fall for the PR...that is all it is...Sony still allows publishers to seamlessly integrate and handle multiplayer in to the PSN without much trouble, but it is their own burden...MS still would prefer publishers just hand everything over and let them do it...at a substantial cost...the end result will be the same...and I promise, this has NOTHING to do with Titanfall's timed exclusivity...
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colonel179  +   323d ago
Whoever wrote this article doesn't know how "the Cloud" works! Also, how can they not realize that whatever they are thinking the Cloud is, Sony could do the exact same thing...
aaron5829  +   323d ago
well.. some people are in denial..
Death  +   323d ago
Sony could do the same thing. If they had money to do it. Sony is not in a good place financially for quite some time now. So yeah, in theory Sony could use the cloud, but financially it isn't happening anytime soon.
Ryto  +   323d ago
Sony is reporting profits of 7.9 trillion yen (£52.7 billion) for the year.
Read more at http://www.trustedreviews.c...

Simple google and you'll see that Sony are now doing very well indeed.
tuglu_pati  +   323d ago
Oh boy its about to rain.... :/
aaron5829  +   323d ago
Damn the cloud !
RememberThe357  +   323d ago
In Seattle we have lots of clouds. Thats why MS is giving them out "virtually free."

Recently it's been hot as f*ck! I was wondering where all the clouds went, Amazon and MS took em all!
Thegamer41  +   323d ago
You cant say Xbox is more powerful than the PS4, then say its an opinion, its either more powerful or its not.
How could an article like this be under opinion piece.
JunioRS101  +   323d ago
Mark Cerny reads articles like this, laughs to himself, closes his laptop...

Pushes himself back away from his desk, walks out onto his marble balcony, lights a cigarette...

Looks over to Shuhei, who is eating Fruity Pebbles with a Siamese cat on his lap, and says, "Fuckin' fanboys."
dcj0524  +   323d ago
Jack tretton holding a tommy gun with andrew house next to him. Both in tuxedos then walk into the room both saying:It's time to make it rain.
jjb1981  +   323d ago
That's funny stuff, made me laugh out loud
JunioRS101  +   323d ago
@ dcj0524

LOL!! That is fucking priceless lol

I could make truly epic comedies if I could record my ideas into a movie I swear lol

I looove over the top comedy. Best kind
ABeastNamedTariq  +   323d ago
I lost it at Fruity Pebbles, lmao. I can actually imagine him sitting there, chillin, eating that.
McScroggz  +   323d ago
Cerny doesn't strike me as a man who cusses.
IcicleTrepan  +   323d ago
most retarded thing I've ever seen posted anywhere. Get a life.
tokugawa  +   323d ago
agreed icicle

but what is sadder is the fact people thought that it was funny
Kryptix  +   323d ago
lol That made me laugh. See how icicle and tokugawa reacted cause the word "fanboys" was mentioned. Can't say they don't have a sense of humor, they're just butthurt to be a part of those delusional Microsoft fanboys.
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tarbis  +   323d ago
@IcicleTrepan & tokugawa
And yet both of you are here. Congratulations on your new found life. :D
No FanS Land  +   323d ago
It is more powerful really...

so long as you have an internet connection DUH! (could be part of the reason why the console is releasing in not many territories.

Can't believe everyone is hyping the cloud service so much. if it really proves to be this useful then why isn't it applied to the 360?
KonsoruMasuta  +   323d ago
Bien! It's ze powah of ze clouds. It's so magnifique!
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princejb134  +   323d ago
What if the online service goes down
Then what
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twinspectre  +   323d ago
so the Author think with the power of Cloud Xbox can compete even against PC Power seems Legit -_-
PS4 > Xbox One even AMD said that
but CloudPOWAH will work only with a Internet Connection
hmmm....
Ryto  +   323d ago
haha youre right! Next they'll be saying the cloud could out perform a gaming Pc with x4 titans!

When will it end!
PFFT  +   323d ago
AMD said that when???
JsonHenry  +   323d ago
Distributed computing is powerful. Really powerful. But I think the internet broadband service across much of the world is just too slow to see the potential that "the cloud" has to offer.

I'll place my bet on who has what under the hood of the actual console myself for now. But I would love to be proved wrong.
jerethdagryphon  +   323d ago
Distributed computeing is imensly powerful its also immensly fiddly if I wanted a book report dont on I dont know war and peace I could read it myself or tear out each page and have you each readone and give me a synopsis then put them together to make my report. Thats disributed computing cloud computing is needing a bookreport on war and peace and going to bookreports whileu wait.com and having there lot of readers read and synpois it sending me the final thing.

Cloud computing or another term for it an older prenetwork one mainframe and terminals
Is that
Work is done off site and handed back to you. Ready for display
Yes in theroy each machine becomes infinitly more powerful as all the work is done on massivly powerful servers and sent to you.

But the problem lies in the whole sent to you part lag latency timeouts high pings dropped packets all this clogs up the speed cauong effectivly buffering and load errors ... please waite physics .ddl is being streamed ... lighint .dll was interupted please wait...

Thats an exageration but a possibility of the type of issues . Then when that occurels the terminal machine has to quickly do the work itself to keep things moving.

Yea all sorts of compression and streaming tech exists but its still far from amiricle
2cents  +   323d ago
The proof is in the pudding,

Let's just wait and see what MS cloud is capable of before we start claiming its the best thing since sliced bread. There is a long way to go before there is any actual evidence this.

The potential is exciting but there is nothing to show as of now.
Jrxbarrett  +   323d ago
Don't be mad.
Cueil  +   323d ago
it's not nearly as non-sense as you think... Nvidia just showcast it's ability to cloud source real time lighting... in 5-7 years we will be much further along on outsourcing computational data
Pintheshadows  +   323d ago
Indeed they did but read the interviews surrounding that demonstration and you will see that it is a very long way off.
Ryto  +   323d ago
It's not practical with realistic variables. Internet speed, latency, bandwith. What's more likely is having Gaikai games totally in the cloud which are rendered graphically superior, that could happen in a couple of years. but interaction between software computed on the xbone/ps4 and information in the cloud... no.

I'm not technically minded but common sense just screams no.
Cueil  +   323d ago
remember when the Xbox 360 launched... I think that the difference in broadband quality and penetration is huge... I expect in 5-7 years when these consoles really start to hit their limits we'll see cloud computational data being used more and more
Deadpoolio  +   323d ago
Idiots really need to STOP misinforming people about the power of the damn cloud.....Especially the morons who think it's going to have anything to do graphically with the Xbox One80...Azure has nothing to to with the GPU or graphics period....The only thing it's gonna do is help matchmaking slightly
mpnothanks  +   323d ago
Ah and what about the fact that an internet connection is no longer required? How could a developer plan on using the cloud if they can't count on everyone being connected?
DonFreezer  +   323d ago
Well I have a feeling if Sony was talking about the cloud you would all scream to it's name.
Tito08  +   323d ago
There's have being early posts of Sony working with cloud computing, as is evidenced with their Gaikai acquisition, but we not going crazy and over-hyped about it like MS and their fanboys are, and in a lot of ways, MS is very known for over exaggerating and making things sound bigger than it actually is.

You don't see Sony over hyping things like the greatest invention since the creation of the wheel like MS usually does, like Peter Moore said before launching 360, "It'll have the greatest game launch lineup in videogame history" when it was in fact the worst.
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Admiral-Saudi  +   323d ago
I want believe that it's true but it's too hard to believe it.
harrisk954  +   323d ago
You are so right... MS is once again passing out Kool-Aid and topping it off with overblown exaggerations... (and, yes, the PS4 can also use the "Power of the Cloud" ( http://gamingbolt.com/umbra... )

See:

http://www.networkworld.com...

and

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

"What's obvious at this point is that the concept of cloud computing looks uncertain and unlikely, and Microsoft needs to prove its claims with actual software. Yet based on what we've been told, the firm itself isn't sure of what uses to put it to, while the limitations of latency and bandwidth severely impede the benefits of all that computing power. Frequent references to Live and multiplayer gaming suggest a less exciting, though certainly valuable, use for Microsoft's new servers in providing better, conventional, multiplayer experiences. More players, adaptive achievements and intelligent worlds all sound great in theory, but we're certainly not seeing the notional results of a four-fold increase in Xbox One's processing power."
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r1sh12  +   323d ago
cloud based performance is a real thing.
AMD have a graphics server which can encode/ decode locally then send the decoded images to the workstation.
It does work well (I use it as part of my consulting job).
Now - The real question is, will it work with the average internet speeds in the world?
NO.
THe bandwidth required is just not high enough, so yes theory is there.
Practically the speeds required to achieve this will just not support it for the majority of consumers.
tiffac008  +   323d ago
Well I guess its only for people with fast internet connection, in countries with good internet infrastructure.
r1sh12  +   323d ago
@tiffac008 - Its hard to say whether internet connection will be the only factor.
I can see graphics being decoded elsewhere and then being piped to a console, actual computing and calculations are another thing due to the size of the calculations and the speed at which they are made is less likely (At least for now).
JackStraw  +   323d ago
thanks captain obvious.
tarbis  +   323d ago
CPU to GPU then back to CPU data transfer already has latency what more transferring to an offsite then back. Facebook who has 180k+ servers while still adding daily is still shitty.
Godchild1020  +   323d ago
Say the cloud is as good as they say, how many gamers will it benefit? You need an internet connection to utilize the cloud, but not all of us game online or will pay for an online subscription to play games online.
JoGam  +   323d ago
Thats why its called an Opinion Piece. This dude is just talking shit theories.
GadgetGooch  +   323d ago
you dnt know shit pal
ZeroX9876  +   323d ago
ok so, if I understand correctly, If I'm not connected online, my games will look like crap compared to others who are connected online.... they should add this feature to the list of Xbox live goodies:

Enhance graphics : Xbox live exclusive

Hell, why not just scrap the Xbox one and just give us an onlive console instead?
imt558  +   323d ago
Not the cloud again....
NextGen24Gamer  +   323d ago
Console architecture plays a HUGE part in how games will look & play. How about we wait until the games release, there are sure to be comparisons. Until then, I'll take the word from developer after developer who has stated that there is either NO difference or a slight difference. If there is a slight difference, it will ultimately come down to developers and how they optimize their games and utilize the consoles unique resources. But with that said, it will most likely be a difference you can't see. It will come down to devs making the best games.

Right now the best game I have seen...In regards to excited to actually PLAY since that's what Gamers do...Is TitanFall! It's not even releasing until spring but it looks more polished than any game I've seen launching for either console. That's INSANE!
JackStraw  +   323d ago
titanfall doesn't look "polished" at all. many games didn't which is why so little gameplay has been shown for most games.
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dlocsta  +   323d ago
The most amazing thing about all of this cloud talk is the people building the games for the cloud taunt it as a viable enhancement but all of you people that don't work for, on, in, around, or with it are correcting them and letting them know how wrong they are. Tell you what, come back here in 18 months and tell us how it works; until then shut the hell up because you don't know just like I don't know.
nosferatuzodd  +   323d ago
in a couple of years I'd be laughing so bad about all this cloud nonsense.
its like Microsoft paying ppl to talk rubbish has soon has the huma thing went out Ive seen article after article trying to justify xbox one wow first they beg amd to take back what they say then they pay some developer to say oh we have something similar now back to putting their heads in the cloud again poor microsoft
NarcolepZZZZZZ  +   323d ago
Well, pick your console and go for it. Do we all need to be so petty and negative? HAVE YOU NOT SEEN GHOSTBUSTERS 2? There are consequences people! This whole site will be covered in pink slime.
gcolley  +   322d ago
You have know clue, you are not even involved. How can you know the impact this will have?
Blachek  +   322d ago
Microsoft has more invested in their online servers than Sony. That being said, Sony could easily develop a system that reduces latency for offloading computations and streamlines the systems to boost performance.

Microsoft has been more committed to the "cloud" than Sony however, look at their Annual Reports to verify. It's what they believe is the future of hardware and they are acting on it.

Both consoles can utilize the service, Microsoft has a larger infrastructure in place... whoever can overcome the latency issues associated with offloading massive amounts of computations first can take advantage of the performance boosts it will allow.

I do believe Microsoft will get there first, and I do think that this "cloud" buzz word they keep tossing around has a substantial amount of validity behind it.
Amsterdamsters  +   322d ago
What about the amazing Sony hype machine that makes it sound like the PS4 is the new super computer when it's not even as powerful as my 18 month old desktop that can do far more than just play slightly enhanced PS3 games.
NatureOfLogic  +   323d ago
Dem cloudz.
darkride66  +   323d ago
I use Microsoft Azure currently and it's turned my computer into...A SUPER COMPUTER!

Because that's how it works, right?
Death  +   323d ago
Isn't that what Folding@home was all about? When Sony promoted cloud computing, they actually said they could replicate a super computer by doing it. Why is it when Microsoft offers the same technology for dedicated console use, it's a joke?

Honestly, it's not the passion that many Playstation fans have that keeps them from being looked at seriously, it's the double standards. Sony changes policies like charging for online play and it is listening to gamers. Microsoft changes policies due to gamer feedback and they are doing 180's with no direction.
devwan  +   323d ago
@Death

Similar terms for different things.
iceman06  +   323d ago
@Death...come on now really. There is a HUGE difference between what Sony did with using hundreds of connected PS3's to replicate a number crunching machine and what MS is attempting. There was no need for instant output with the "supercomputer" it was just an aggregate of data collected to provide insight into protein folding. With MS, they are not only trying to process (which isn't the problem) but send and receive in less or equal time than what the on board processors can do themselves. I'm sure it could be part of a future. But, that future includes a much more efficient internet infrastructure than what we have currently.
stevehyphen  +   323d ago
@Death
They are not the same.
They are the reverse, actually.

Folding@home was using your ps3 to assist in protein folding research by connecting it to the "cloud." The ps3 basically taking load away from the cloud.

Azure is touted as taking the load off your console and putting it on the cloud.

As I've said before, the problem with cloud computing for real time simulations is latency. Not bandwidth.

Anyone who doesn't know what I mean, try this: open a command prompt (cmd in "Run") on a Windows PC and type: tracert n4g.com
See all of those IP addresses and DNS'? That's the routing between you and this website. Notice the times; these add up to give you your lag. Your bandwidth does not really affect these numbers. If you have 5MBPS internet or 500MBPS internet, these numbers aren't really going to change much. The architecture of how you connect to things on the internet has to be changed or streamlined to do real time calculations.

Forget the idea of fanboys. Do some research on how fast things are done internally on any computing device, and then compare it to network latency.

I'm not saying it can't be done in theory, but in the real world we have a long ways to go.
shadow18spirit  +   323d ago
The xbox fans are trying really hard to convince themselves that xbox is the best
negative  +   323d ago
You just can't handle the fact that your employer Sony has some competition. I mean you do work for Sony, right???
aaron5829  +   323d ago
and you work for MS ?
godofboobees  +   323d ago
You had one bubble to say something smart yet you blew it. I so disappoint
joeorc  +   323d ago
@negative

At least we have a sense of Huma!

AMD's Senior Product Marketing Manager Marc Diana said that the PS4 had shipped with a sense of Huma [Heterogeneous Uniform Memory Access] from AMD.

http://www.fudzilla.com/hom...
PFFT  +   323d ago
Its highly doubtful AMD would stoop so low and actually make a stupid fanboy remark. There is no doubt these words are from a Sony fanboy rather than a profession working for AMD.

*EDIT*

Nevermind i guess they did. BUT still that shit was a bit too unprofessional since LIKE Sony MS is too paying AMD for their GPU and CPU. Microsoft should have gone with NVIDIA.
By the way i dont know if you have read the article BUT it seems the Xbox One too can pull off hUMA in one form or the other.
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Tito08  +   323d ago
@Negative-Your username & 1 bubble says a lot about you.

@PFFT-How you want MS to go with Nvidia, it likely make the machine more expensive and btw Nvidia has being talking crap about both consoles, and hyping up PC, btw, there's nothing wrong with what AMD said, likely Nvidia would have done the same thing, it's all politics in the business world.
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H0RSE  +   323d ago
But they already are convinced it is "the best" same with Sony fans with PS4. Each side see's their respective system as the better alternative. Now based on data sheets and specs on paper, PS4 seems more powerful, and therefore, Sony fans use this to fuel their "PS4 is the best console" argument, but it really proves nothing. A good example is the m/kb vs controller argument.

In the m/kb vs controller argument, m/kb technically outperform a controller in virtually every aspect - they are more responsive, faster, more accurate, etc. and this can all be verified through tests. The analog sticks of a game controller can only do so much, and simply cannot compete with the performance that comes from an optical/laser device, yet when you present these facts to console players, it has little effect on their opinion and they still choose controller over mouse. Many will even acknowledge that the mouse is better at those things, yet they still prefer to use a controller.

So regardless if PS4 is more powerful and "better" from a technical standpoint (which hasn't actually been proven other than on paper) it means little in the grand scheme, since the whole "console war" is largely based around personal preference.

Besides, how many people go out to buy a console with hardware specs being the determining factor? If hardware specs were such an important factor, you'd just choose PC. The majoirty of players choose consoles based off which games and features/services they offer. Those touting the "superior specs" argument, are largely just using it to gain points for their side, even though it is essentially a non-issue.
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PSVita  +   323d ago
This is a matter of facts not opinions.
H0RSE  +   323d ago
You completely missed the point...

As I showed in the m/kb vs controller part of my post, regardless of facts, people are going to choose what they want, because other than facts there are preferences. Sony fans can post system specs all day long, and although it may be a fact that PS4 has stronger hardware, it does not make it fact that PS4 is the overall better console, and even if it did, there are still going to be people that choose the other alternative.

Does the PS4 allow me access to XBL? Can I play games like Titanfall and Ryse? Does it come packaged with an Xbox controller? Can I use Kinect? See, these are things where all your spec sheets and hardware numbers don't amount to anything. PS4 may be a more powerful console, but a better console just because of that? Not quite...
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Kingdom Come  +   323d ago
Being a multi-platform gamer, I can look at the comments on this site in a more openly subjective manner, and actually, Sony fans are persistently the least mature, down voting all pro-Xbox comments, trolling Xbox related articles etc. Microsoft and Sony are releasing fantastic consoles, each with their own advantages and disadvantages, neither is perfect. This site would be so more appealing if fanboys stuck to their own part of the site, it feels almost impossible to have a civilised, unbiased discussion regarding gaming...
twinspectre  +   323d ago
yes, but Microsoft is trying to fuck their own fanbase with Ryse Microtransaction and Forza 5 DLC
Lazarus69  +   323d ago
Being a multi-platform gamer i can look at the comments on this site in a more openly subjective manner.Both sets of fanboys are as bad as each other really.However the Xbox fanboy side appear to whine and troll alot more
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ThatCanadianGuy514  +   323d ago
Mod sure was quick to single handedly approve this dupe.Good job nineball.

A paragraph quoting respawn about discounted servers makes xbox more powerful.

Just LOL! The things these guys pull out are just hilarious at this point.
aawells07  +   323d ago
Who cares man? If you guys disagree, why cant you all just overlook it? Instead of posting "LOL" and "Dem Clouds". It just makes you all look like immature kids. Some of you guys are just ridiculous. Grow up guys.
KonsoruMasuta  +   323d ago
I know man. These guys are so immature.

The clouds really works. I'm used azure on my computer and it transformed into a robot with artificial intelligence and human like emotions.
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aawells07  +   323d ago
@Konsoru I never said that i agree with the article.
ForgivenZombie  +   323d ago
Delusional.
iamnsuperman  +   323d ago
I can't believe people are still writing about this. The majority of the article seems to be about dedicated servers which doesn't mean power (It is good though). The offloading stuff has been talked about but not seen (except for Drivatars which is still needs to be reviewed to see the benefit of such a move)
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moparful99  +   323d ago
Honestly Drivatar is no different than Bspec mode that has been in Gran Turismo for years now.. In B spec mode the game actually learns your driving habits and takes telemetry from the commands that you give to create an artificial driver that plays for you.. I remember doing a 24 hr race at Nurburgring in GT4 using B spec and I ended up winning the race by 26 laps because I spent a lot of time building my B spec profile.. Its a cool feature but nothing that makes me want to go out and buy an XBONE and Forza 5 as soon as possible.. Its all just PR speak and buzz words to try and promote the XBONE, nothing more..
Kenshin_BATT0USAI  +   323d ago
Is this a satire piece? Because it seriously reads like one.
No FanS Land  +   323d ago
Man that last sentence! :

"This dedication by Microsoft to tackling game development issues may surprise the critics."

it does feel like a satire! hahaha
ziggurcat  +   323d ago
hasn't it been established that "teh clowdz" is nothing more than dedicated servers, and doesn't really do anything to boost the console's performance?
Deadpoolio  +   323d ago
Anyone with even an elementary school knowledge of computers knows that the cloud isn't going to do anything more than that, maybe have some effect on game Ai but that's doubtful since it would require you to be connected the entire game...

The morons who keep saying it will have an effect on Graphics are mentally retarded, Azure is sure as hell NOT designed to enhance the graphics of anything....I believe it's Nvidia who are the only ones working on a GPU based cloud service
us_army  +   323d ago
why do these get approved.... please pull down for the love of god
Caleb_H  +   323d ago
I couldn't agree more.
JohnS1313  +   323d ago
Not more cloud crap. Give up already. The cloud does nothing. It's a marketing gimmick.
Caleb_H  +   323d ago
DA CLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUU UUUUUDDDDDDDDD
gamingisnotacrime  +   323d ago
hope its true

MS needs SOMETHING positive going for the xbone
okmrman  +   323d ago
Or just get both systems and enjoy gaming as it should be
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frostyhat123  +   323d ago
*grabs popcorn*
Nykamari  +   323d ago
To Hell with popcorn, best way to watch a fight is with some cold beers and good green! *flick puff puff, chug* enjoy the show!
XtraTrstrL  +   323d ago
It's not looking good for Xbox. Even if the cloud ends up being some insane thing that makes up for most of the power gap, PS4 is getting it too.

Sony is working with Rackspace to create scalable Openstack compute servers for them. Which will do basically the same thing Xbone's Azure servers can do. So, that possible cloud power advantage is about to be out the window.
Pintheshadows  +   323d ago
As I said in my opening comment, Intel are still only in a PROTOTYPING stage with regards to Cloud based hardware performance augmentation.

Sony and MS have nothing on Intel in this department so I doubt their R and D divisions have found something the guys at Intel haven't.

Here is a fact. The MS Cloud will be used for saves, dedicated servers and not much else. Same goes for Sony plus the delivery of old games. I'm so sick of this fantasy land idea that the Cloud as it stands can improve a piece of hardware's performance.

In five years it will be around but developing. It will take at least another 5 to become the norm. It isn't like it is hard to look this stuff up. This is some seriously advanced tech we are talking about. Not something you'll find associated with a 2013 $499 console.

Try a prototype piece of equipment specifically designed around the idea of cloud based performance. I wouldn't like to think of how much that would be right now.
jerethdagryphon  +   323d ago
You could use cloud on one time load assests like base terain and such to reduce loadtimes as netlag will be less but not much on the fly
andreasx  +   323d ago
Here we go again with the cloud... http://s2.n4g.com/media/11/...
Kyosuke_Sanada  +   323d ago
Clouds are all we need......

https://www.youtube.com/wat...
Devilbringer  +   323d ago
The Xbox one is more powerful then the ps4

It's the xbox live Cloud

make sense /s
iamnsuperman  +   323d ago
I am shoving my 360 into the air. Come on clouds

(just a bit of a joke)
Nykamari  +   323d ago
You are *Superman* right? Why don't you fly it up there?jk lol
PR_FROM_OHIO  +   323d ago
LMFAO!!!! haha what's funny is people are acting like Sony doesn't support cloud themselves! So whatever the cloud can do for Xbox1 Sony's cloud service can do right?
Izzy408  +   323d ago
no.
Drekken  +   323d ago
How do you sleep at night?
Izzy408  +   323d ago
@Drekken

I just lay down and close my eyes. There's really nothing to it.
bitboi  +   323d ago
Does it really matter? You cannot sit here and say the PS4's graphics don't look just as good as what XB1 can do. They're practically at the same level and we're at a point where all these new games coming out look great. It's dumb that this debate still goes on...
ABeastNamedTariq  +   323d ago
Sure, but come on. This "article" is just pathetic.
solidworm  +   323d ago
LOL priceless.
spektical  +   323d ago
This is ridiculous. Many people are not qualified to talk about the cloud, because they miss the basic notion of bandwidth\speed being a huge factor in how much "augmentation" the cloud can add.

On top of that, Sony will also have cloud services. Microsoft Azure.. well lets just say at least its better than their ridiculous Microsoft Service Bus, which pointers where taken from... which already terrifies me. Programming with that POS is just terrible.
Pintheshadows  +   323d ago
They also miss the fact that it is still prototype tech at one of the most renowned computing companies. What these people are claiming is that MS has somehow created a technology which most people accept is at least a decade off being ready for consumer distribution.
Mr-Dude  +   323d ago
Indeed, the idea however is good but the technology isn't so far that it can take over say 20 or 30% of the XBONE power so that it can process more power. Maybe the other next-gen (year 2020) but for now, no. Not to mention that MS wouldn't be the first company to look into this (Intel, Nvidia, AMD etc)
Not to begin with the slow internet some countries have, malfunctions or other things with their internet. It takes a lot of bandwidth to stream the dreams MS has with their cloud.
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GryestOfBluSkies  +   323d ago
*yawn*

until they can show, with video proof, that the cloud makes a significant difference, im still going to call the power of the cloud a PR claim.

maybe we'll find out from forza players. they can do an online vs offline test on the 'advanced ai from the cloud'
aaron5829  +   323d ago
bu..bu..but..

all that cloud and no rain !
BeathuberCH  +   323d ago
tears are delicious.
yellowgerbil  +   323d ago
it was storming ealier. Lightning and pouring rain. Those were some POWERFUL clouds. MS Ain't got nothin' on mother nature.
NeloAnjelo  +   323d ago
Oooooh... Da Cloud!

This thing CANNOT and WILL NOT increase power. Stop buying into this BS.

The only thing it can help with is limited AI and rendering at the most. This will also vary greatly depending on your Internet connection.

Raw power of the hardware is what gives superior performance.
clmstr  +   323d ago
wow. just wow.
who even approves this?
Max-Zorin  +   323d ago
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BattleTorn  +   323d ago
Agreed. It's the Nature of Logic ;)
Pintheshadows  +   323d ago
I see the same deluded nonsense across a myriad of gaming sites. It isn't just here. IGN, Gamespot, Edge, Eurogamer etc.

The only place i've had a decent convo about games is Rock, Paper, Shotgun.
BelieveinGhosts  +   323d ago
lol, yeah N4g bias is pitiful but the worst website for fanboys has to be eurogamer hands down. Atleast here in N4G it is only about 80% Sony Fanboys, 10 % PC Elitists, 5% Xbox fanboys and 5 % nintendo fanoys.

On the other hand,Eurogamer is easily 100% full of Sony fanboys, even their editors and moderators are Sony fanboys too.

I Avoid Eurogamer because of this
Saints94  +   323d ago
I think it says this article was made in a VERY short time.
Devilbringer  +   323d ago
The Clouuds yes!

Rather smoke some heavy shit!

That would make me some good clouds right there
Madara97  +   323d ago
We can all see Microsoft are smoking cloud and we can say the same about the xb1 fanboy of this article.

Microsoft - Who needs weed when you have the cloud!
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