Need For Speed Rivals will feature better graphics on one next-gen console than the other, Ghost Games’ executive producer Marcus Nilsson has told VideoGamer – but refused to clarify which.
thats why i love GDDR5 @ the disagrees, '' i know now why you cry''
Indeed, if there are differences this early imagine how the games will be a few years down the line! Ps4!!
PS4 baby! Superior version for 3rd party confirmed! This should muzzle those fanboys for some time. @Cam977: and imagine how that God of War or Uncharted on PS4 would look like! PS2 is back.. EDIT: xbox fanboys: "bbb..bbut..the powah of daa clowwwd"
imagine if they launched TLOU on PS4 with upgraded graphics and 60fps
lol Funny how everyone is saying PS4 when it could be either of them. Xbox One has DirectX 11.2, it could be that they used it to make it look better on X1. But we'll see when it launches.
it may actually be the xone. It has directX 11 and PS4 had 2GB limit cap on games being created before the PlayStation event in February.
@Mystogan And the PS4 has openGL, as does nearly every other non-windows graphics device on the planet. Direct X isn't better, it's just a different way of doing the same thing.
Lol PS4 already ahead in multi console release graphics. Cant wait to start seeing the h2hs on the net.
There's always something isn't there. Whenever someone comes out and says the PS4 is the superior console, tech wise and thus graphic wise (for those that care about that kind of thing), there is always something Camp Xbox will bring up to say that that's not true. Even when AMD, the company that designed BOTH chipsets, says the PS4 is the superior console, it is a lie to Camp Xbox. Power of the Cloud. ESRAM Direct X 11.2 What new reason will be invented tomorrow to help the sail down the river of denial?
I'm sure other reasons will come about. Da Nile is a long river. Sorry... I had to.
@dragonknight: You left out the hypervisor. Look at comment #1.11...
@sckipt if they launched TLOU on PS4 with upgraded graphics and 60fps we shold be able too upgrade for 10$.
@hardcorgamer21: EDIT: NVM... Misread the article I just posted :(
Interesting. It has been widely accepted since february that the ps4 was more more powerful. Yet this guy says that they were surprised by the power that they found in the previously thought weaker console... Strange
Wow this site is getting worse. Who really gives a crap who dad is the biggest. Get the console that has the most games you want as there is really not that big of a difference in how 3rd party games look when your playing them in fact unless you play them side by side you will not notice. I think its funny how gaming has become like a sport on whos has more power ect. Its should be something we enjoy not bitch over.
No point jumping to any conclusions, it really could be any console. However, i feel it is more likely to be PS4 simply because MS just seems slightly behind sony as far as getting the launch together delaying releases in Europe till next yr and still not showing majority of their games on actual Xbox hardware but instead choosing to utilize high end PC's even at gamescon
The nex xbox2 and ps5 will be out in a few years down the line I'm thinking 5 years like we use to have.
Must have missed the part where he said it was the ps4.....
Well, it sure as hell isn't going to be the less powerful Xbox One, thats for sure! Perhaps its the Wii U /s
True, do people not remember that EA said that BF4 will use directx 11.2 to add some things. I think it's entirely possible it's the XB1. PS4 have added their own 11.2 style feature set to the PS4 but it's bespoke for the PS4. Developers aren't going to slave to make one console better than they other. It has to be easy and quick. It could be making use of GDDr5 or 11.2 we don't know
No, you missed the part where he wasn't ALLOWED to say it's the PS4, lol I'm not going to claim that it being the X1 is impossible though, there are just a lot more supporting facts/specs that place it in the Ps4s corner compared to the X1s possible advantages.
Haha, oh boy... Gddr5 = 2400 vs ddr3 = 1600 ps4 8 cpu cores vs x1 4 cpu cores ps4 has 50% more gpu cores, each faster than x1's ps4 = unified ram vs x1 = split ram ps4 gpu = 1.84 tflops vs x1 gpu = 1.30 tflops "b-b-but clouds, eSRAM, hypervisor :'(" B-b-but you lose :) B-b-buy a PS4 :) Xb-b-box sucks :)
JunioRS101 I didn't know the xbox1 had a quad core.. doesn't it have the same jaguar 8 core cpu?
Yes it does... Ignorance flies wild around here
Microsoft is hoping DirectX 11.2 can offset the extra power of the PS4 with tricks. Wether or not it can actually do it still remains unknown. It wouldn't be a spectacular difference if that was the case. PS4 has more hardware. So odds are its the PS4. Considering PC assets likely will be the baseline for the graphics it could mean 1box is intended to have better looking version, but PS4 hardware could outweigh that with its extra GPU compute cores and shaders. There is no way of knowing without seeing both versions.
@JunioRS101 very inaccurate misleading specs you pulled out of your behind. not sure how or why people agreed with your comment.
So many telling quotes where to start? - "And I think that one will look as good as the PC.” - "Nilsson’s comments suggest that third-party developers may be looking to take advantage of the additional power of PS4, rather than deliver identical versions across both platforms." I'll leave it at these two...
@DirtyPimp What if the dev was actually talking about the One being more powerful than originally expected? Heads would explode.
that's impossible. 1. programming .xbox one ps4 = equal. 2. power . xbox one ps4. = ps4 is stronger.
actualy this point to ps4, since original PS4 kit had 4gb ram and the final 8gb Gddr5 made lots of dev. surprised.
@dirypimo a dev yesterday said it was a lot easier to develope for ps4 so idk how all the others feel or if it was a biased quote or not but they might not be equal
Ps4 has the more graphics centric GDDR5 and a unified memory structure to compensate for the inherent latency issues of GDDR5.. So basically the Ps4 has all of the advantages of GDDR5(which surpass DDR3) and none of the weaknesses.. If everyone recalls the only advantage the 360 had this previous gen was unified memory which spelled easier coding and the result was slightly better MultiPlats in a lot of cases.. I think Sony has this generation nailed...
“What we’re seeing with the consoles are actually that they are a little bit more powerful than we thought for a really long time – especially one of them, but I’m not going to tell you which one," Nilsson told VideoGamer.com at Gamescom earlier today. Please read carefully! "Consoles are a LITTLE bit more powerful than we thought" "Especially ONE of them, but I'm not going to tell you which ONE" Initially the fact that the PS4 had more RAW power was common knowledge. That shouldn't surprise anyone. But he was actually surprised at the "Little" more power that "ONE" had over the other. If it was the ps4, why would he be surprised? Hmmmm think about it. I've known for a while that he xbox one's architecture was unique and offered some graphical advantages that don't show up in RAW numbers. Maybe the devs are "Surprised" out how it gives an edge once they start developing for it. People make a big stink about the Ram difference, but the Best Gaming Computers use the same RAM choice as the Xbox ONE. It's a more proven RAM for gaming regardless. If the PS4 ram was so much better for gaming, that would mean that the graphics on the ps4 would surpass the top of the line computers. NOPE! So how could the console that has had the clear RAW power advantage "Surprise" a dev? Xbox ONE is surprising the devs! All you have to do is look at the launch games and it's pretty obvious. "Think about it".
No we dont use the same RAM for gaming. Im sorry but no mister. In PC you would be a fool and very much behind in the times if you are using DDR3 for game rendering. http://www.amd.com/us/produ... Who knows what system he is talking about. He specifically says "Consoles". Not Console. It can be seen either way. In my point of view they are both underpowered by my PC which is also behind in the times. I am rocking dual GTX 570's and they beat the new consoles coming out 10 fold, easily. By most PC gaming standards dual 570's are pretty much obsolete. They are beaten by a single gtx 680 and a HD7990. Which surprisingly both those cards and my cards all use GDDR5 Ram.
RadioActiveTwinky You are wrong! Proof that DDR3 is MUCH better for High Powered Gaming PC RIGS. the link you gave was for laptops. Know hardcore gamer uses a damn laptop man! LOL http://www.squidoo.com/best...
The Farce is strong with this one. You're really reaching Elite, but that's sort of a habit with you. Google "GDDR5 vs DDR3 for gaming" and do some reading.
I guess its you who has to "Think about it" again.
Jack Tretton encouraged people to ask third party devs which versions of their games look best. Not without good reason.
Of course ! now i see it, thank you Elite, if he had said "Especially FOUR of them, but I'm not going to tell you which FOUR" It would've probably meant the ps4, but in this case it's indeed the one , i applaud your reaching-i'm sorry i mean analyzing skills !!! /s
Mentions ONE 8 times in comment, 8 ONES plus DDR3 = 8+3 = 11, 2 ONES plus the final 'one' used at the end of the word 'anyONE' gives us 3... ...Half Life 3 confirmed Wii U exclusive.
ITS A CONSPIRACY! /s
@Chaostar "Mentions ONE 8 times in comment, 8 ONES plus DDR3 = 8+3 = 11, 2 ONES plus the final 'one' used at the end of the word 'anyONE' gives us 3... ...Half Life 3 confirmed Wii U exclusive." ..... Genius
@elite... Stop brother, your making too much sense. That doesn't jive around here. Why would he be surprised. The answer is already there. Wasn't PS3 a stronger machine yet 3rd party titles looked better on 360... "Think about it", my new catch phrase around these here parts :)
@Elite I'm sorry man but you are 100% wrong. GDDR5 is far superior when it comes to graphics and DDR3 is used for the OS and all the applications that you would use. There is a reason that gaming PC's are made with GDDR5 Vram these days and not GDDR3. When it comes to graphics it is better to have.
Um...no. GPUs use GDDR5 RAM, because it is best for graphics processing.
Not just GDDR5. The more powerful GPU and the hUMA technology in the PS4 makes it the best platform for multiplatform games.
@Elite24 ROFL!!!! your talking about Random Access Memory. The stuff that is used for your background operations. Random Access Memory helps off-set the latency. It achieves this by expanding the bandwith between the CPU and GPU. Consoles have an APU. There is no dedicated GPU or CPU. It is all in one chip. Also read the article on how the developing creators of both consoles APU's released a bombshell as to why one console will be surprisingly tad bit powerfull then expected.
@RadioActiveTwinky I think you might be getting a little confused with your tech terms.
@Devwan he posted this link http://www.squidoo.com/best... No I am not confusing the difference between RAM between the sticks and RAM on a GPU. They have two different operations on a PC.
huma is that like an animal rights organization?
If they can make the xbox one more powerful for any game, I will be utterly confused lol.
They would have to intentionally gimp the PS4 version. There's literally no area where Xbox has the advantage.
It's not because of the GDDR5, though that is obviously very useful. The increase in graphics is because the PS4's GPU is 50% faster. They can get the same framerate as the Xbox One version while doing far more graphically.
I hate you PS FANBOYS! Cant you see that da CLOUDZ are da future?! Lol
Sorry Ladies but here are the main 4 reasons that it should and will be the XBOX ONE, 1.Windows 8.1 2. DirectX 11.2 3. Hypervision up to 7.5 gigs 4. Azure Cloud Ya see this a big advantage for any and all developers. Sorry but your gddr5 just wont meaaure up. Dont worry, games will look great on the ps4 but they'll always ALWAYS have the ability to look and play better on the Xbox One. Oh yeah, Xbox Live is still lwhere sony always has to play catch up:)
Haha xgamer bubble up for funny.
Can u tell me wut hypervision is plz. thk u.
AHAHAHHHA it's funny how you fantroll are trying to mystify things that really count NOTHING. 1) Windows DOESN'T make game look better. 2) DirectX it's just a different way to show things on screen (and openGL is better btw) 3) PS3 and 360 has hypervisor (and not hypervision, stupid idiot) too, but noone talked about that, because it's just a software administrator of the hardware LOL 4) even the sky has clouds.
Take that micrsoft dildo outta your ass!
what the hell is "hypervision up to 7.5gigs" -in La,la land? *edit, Lulz_Boat, broke it down better. - read it after posting. (it's funny reading Reputation Management Post's , - they are getting more, and more, Recockulous, and truly have no Idea what they are talking about.. (other than the M$ bullet points,) I never thought I'd see a sinking ship in real life)
Superman has hypervision but the x1 doesn't. On topic, you should do some research little boy, because I don't think you understand how electronics work.
PS3 was more powerful than the xbox360 and the exclusives showed ps4 will be more powerful than xbox one but i think there is parity this time around, what has me excited is now devs can't use the excuse that ps4 is hard to develop for if they make crappy ports here is what i am hoping but this will never happen That all devs take advantage of each systems strengths sckipt we won't have to imagine Last of us GT6 you can pretty much confirm both will be on ps4, and sony may even port beyond 2 souls too I want demon soul sequel or the game with upgraded graphicss on ps4
While I will concede there is a very very small possibility it's the X1, I think we can all safely assume it's the PS4. Sure it's great that NFS:R will perform a little better on the PS4, but lets all take a step back an look at the bigger issue. If EA is going to allow their developers to actually take advantage of the PS4 hardware, we can safely assume (again) that all multiplatform developers are going to be taking advantage. This is amazing news. I honestly thought publishers would be purposefully holding back the PS4 version just for parities sake. And this is just the start of the generation. I think we're going to see a bigger difference later. I don't want to be arrogant, but boy is it going to entertaining watching the xbox fanboys when this happens because I'm so sick of them disregard facts. Just look at n4rc above me. Just can't accept reality.
Arnie - Terminator uses GDDR5.
ill be back
I imagine Arnold says "GREATNESS AWAITS!" PS4 FTW!
"But it's something I can never do"
The XBOX ONE has an extra chip in it that you guys fail to mention all the time, a chip that the PS4 doesn't have. FORZA will be the best looking driving game in the world when it hits the XBOX ONE this November 2013. Also, it's the only 1080P "native" 60fps racing game on next gen consoles! Now, that's not talk, it's Fact, period!
@ dirtypimp loool If u r a big terminator fan u might like this http://www.youtube.com/watc... PS4 all the way.
that was awesome.