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Sony: We Were Consistent, Others Have Shifted Their Message

Sony continues to take jabs at Microsoft's Xbox One strategy.

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xHeavYx1134d ago

Funny thing is that, nothing that he said was fake

ZBlacktt1134d ago

You missed out on being first to post here..darn.

LostDjinn1134d ago (Edited 1134d ago )

True, but it was still an unnecessary dig.

I mean Sony just pummeled MS with games. To turn around and and hit them with this after the fact just strikes me as adding insult to injury.

Edit: My God the tears in here are hilarious.

Tony-A1134d ago (Edited 1134d ago )

Unexpected, but it was most definitely something that the media and everyone watching picked up right away.

Right now, they're looking like the sure and confident ones, which made that comment seem perfectly placed seeing as MS have been constantly changing their minds over almost every little detail.

Dee_911134d ago (Edited 1134d ago )

http://images.bluegartr.com...

I actually agree with you septic.Not about the show being underwhelming, I was satisfied, maybe your expecting to much.

Septic1134d ago

Yeah but it was such a cheap shot and reeked of a poor attempt to try and replicate the reaction they got at the end of E3. And his little smirk at the end of his statement....really?

It was such an underwhelming show, especially after all the hype that was generated for it.

I'm not starting anything here but you honestly, tell me, did you think the show was as good as you expected? Not for me at all.

JC_Denton1134d ago

I personally don't think the whole "Hey everyone, look at how great we are, BUT also look at how bad Microsoft is" message should have continued past E3. It was all in good fun then, but now it's bordering on childish and completely unprofessional.

This is coming from the guy who sees Microsoft as North Korea, and loses respect for people who are buying the Xbox One.

Pintheshadows1134d ago

Sony said they'd announce games and they did. Droves of them. What do some people on here want? MS did the same and got criticism for it as well.

MS and Sony: 'here are tons of games for you that we didn't have to make'.

Idiot N4G users: 'waaaah, these aren't the games I want. I'm going to throw my toys all over the floor'.

Salooh1134d ago (Edited 1134d ago )

@Septic
MS have been doing it for a long time and now you complain , let them say whatever they want as long it's true. It won't harm anyone lol ...

http://commanderbedlam.file...

PSVita1134d ago

@septic- "poor attempt"?

Judging from the crowds reaction it wasn't poor at all. In fact he didn't even mention MS so the fact that you, I, and the crowd KNEW who he was talking about speaks volumes.

WrAiTh Sp3cTr31134d ago

Doesn't make up for that weak conference I wasted my time watching.

mewhy321134d ago

LOL. Yeah micro$oft has done so many 180's that it's making me dizzy.

Septic1134d ago

@PSVITA

" In fact he didn't even mention MS so the fact that you, I, and the crowd KNEW who he was talking about speaks volumes."

Well who else were they supposed to be talking about? The only other big console player releasing a next-gen console is Microsoft. It doesn't speak volumes.

Disagree all you want but that moment was cringe-worthy, regardless of the fact that he was right. And he WAS right...I'm not saying that he wasn't but it just seemed desperate or a cheap shot.

Dee_911134d ago

@PSVita
Nobody said , what he said wasn't true, it was just unnecessary imo.All it does is cause drama.
I think the show would have been better if it had better camera angles.I want to see the trailers, not the crowd.Also no new trailer from drive club or The order 1886 is quite disappointing but over all it was decent because we still got alot of news.
Such as the RELEASE DATE!!!

abzdine1134d ago (Edited 1134d ago )

he's so right, now unleash the fanboys who will say opposite

why do people comment on the show itself instead of these words he said? does the truth hurt at this point?

HiddenMission1134d ago

@Septic

Short answer hell yes! Price drops on Vita and PS3, PS4 launch day reveal and a shit ton of games!

MS still haven't dropped it's release date for the XBOXONE, they haven't shown a slew of new games and they haven't dropped price on existing hardware.

Try all you like but the reality is Sony is so far ahead in gamers eyes it's not even funny...I mean holy hell a million PS4's already sold...good luck XBOXONE...

Just saying :P

nukeitall1134d ago

So when is Sony going to sell the PS4 based on it's features, games, content and value?

Instead of measuring itself against the Xbox One constantly?

Seems to be a theme. Sony constantly takes a jab at MS and it started way back, when Ken Kutaragi talked smack about the Xbox 360, and followed with Kevin Butler and now this.

Stay classy Sony and sell your product based on the merit of it's value.

Blacktric1134d ago

"I was satisfied, maybe your expecting to much."

>Indies, indies, indies
>PC indies are now coming to PS4, Vita
>Measly 50 dollar price drop for Vita opposed to rumored 100
>Minecraft
>Already announced games like GT6, InFamous: Second Son and Killzone: Shadow Fall
>No noteworthy announcement
>Unnecessary dig at Microsoft at the end that serves no purpose after they slapped them with PS4 reveal in February and pummelled them with E3 conference.

You're saying that you liked all this nonesense while telling him that he was expecting too much? Talk about having low expectations...

mandf1134d ago

@ wraith

How was Ms conference? I forgot you didn't have one so by default it was the best conference of gamescom.

Revolver_X_1134d ago

"unnecessary dig"

Sony is just trying to point out the facts. MS has significantly changed their model to replicate Sony's. As a business Sony has to seperate themselves to show the consumer they are the best choice. I dont see a problem with Sony pointing it out that they had this stance from the start, and didnt change it due to negative feedback, pre-order numbers, etc. It's all in good fun and they are competition. It's not like Sony went and put Destiny as a PS4 Exclusive or anything. See what I did there? It was a small jab. Calm down and untangle your panties.

xHeavYx1134d ago

@nukeitall
Keep trying, the conference showed features, games, price reductions, stop hurting and get off Sony related news, it's gonna raise your blood pressure

AngelicIceDiamond1134d ago

Shifting there msg for the better. No DRM, Kinect optional, loads of games.

And the PR is much clearer. I dare anyone find an argument out of this.

tokugawa1134d ago

and the message has changed... for the better.

deal with it, and move along.

GraveLord1134d ago

You'd be surprised how many Xbox fanboys think Microsoft is somehow beating Sony. Last time I checked changing policies and pulling 180s all over the place isn't considering winning, its considering reacting.

FamilyGuy1134d ago

More importantly, "...with more than 1 million pre-orders already, worldwide"

1 MILLION pre-orders!
That's insane, last I read the vgcharts estimate was like 76,000 lol

Dee_911134d ago (Edited 1134d ago )

@Blacktric
Yea I just
>Won $50million dollars
>Married some stupid super model
>solved world hunger
> cured countless of un-curable diseases
>brought upon world piece
No biggie
See I can make awesome things look like nothing too.
whats is this 5th grade?

Blacktric1134d ago (Edited 1134d ago )

"See I can make awesome things look like nothing too."

If you genuinely think any of those could be classified as awesome, then I do feel bad for you and your sense of standards. Being in this much denial takes its toll hard it seems.

It still doesn't change the fact that they obliterated Microsoft with their previous two conferences of course. But those also doesn't change the fact that this conference was lackluster at best.

"whats is this 5th grade?"

Judging by your punctuation, typos and passive agressive attitude, yes. For you at least.

Dee_911134d ago (Edited 1134d ago )

@Blacktric
Okay
So not only are we bashing someone for having an opinion and taking personal digs, we are also being grammar nazis and passing opinions off as "facts "?
Lmao
are you serious right now?

inveni01134d ago

@Septic

At this point, Sony is a lot of things, but desperate isn't one of them. They said what they said to prove a point. Their vision is to embrace gamers. Microsoft's vision was to keep gamers complacent. Sony just wants us to remember who has had our best interest in mind from the moment the PS4 began development.

thejigisup1134d ago

Sony in general seems to be pretty happy with their master plan for the ps4 and honestly if you were in charge of making sure your product was successful you would probably not necessarily take pride in taking a few jabs at the competition but take pride in reassuring your customers and potential customers that you are ready and willing and have been doing something right by them.

Anon19741134d ago

Funny to me how Aaron Greenberg from Microsoft is just slam after slam over the years and no one says boo. Sony mentions they've been consistent and on point, which they have been and suddenly it's a tasteless, unnecessary shot at the competition?

UnHoly_One1134d ago

If I wanted to play indie games I'd buy an Ouya.

Oh wait, I did. My kickstarter reward Ouya has been powered on for about 10 minutes total in the 3 months I've had it, and I haven't spent a dime on a game because they are all trash.

That's the Indie scene that we are all supposed to oooh and ahhh over.... Gimme a break, it's garbage.

I wish MS had stuck to their guns on not allowing self publishing, I don't need that crap cluttering up my XB1 marketplace when I'm looking to buy a real game.

Christopher1134d ago

@LostDjinn: I get what you're saying. But, I also feel it's important for Sony to remind the consumers that they have been listening to them all along, rather than reacting to them when people don't like a decision they've made. They just need to do it in a way that isn't coming off as petty.

DragonKnight1134d ago

@nukeitall: I bet you said that with a straight face too. Which makes it all the more hilarious. Apparently, all Sony did for those few hours was talk about how they aren't Microsoft and they didn't talk about games, features, and such right?

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

NewMonday1134d ago

After years of trolling by Greenberg MS have no right to complain.

Pintheshadows1134d ago

UnHoly_One. Haha. You purchased an Ouya for Indie games. Have you never used Steam? Honestly, if that is your view on Indie's you may be one of the most sadly misguided people on here.

Just a title for you. 'Sir, You are being Hunted'. More original, tense, and genuinely fantastic than most full price games. If you base your view of Indie games on what is available on Ouya then I pity you.

You haven't lived.

andrewsqual1134d ago

@Zachriel Eh no one of the biggest cheers was after the trailer for Murasaki Baby, an incredible title that looked something like Limbo, you know that critically acclaimed game?
And they showed at least 10 games and announced even more that were all like classic Limbo style genius games. What is wrong with that?
You obviously aren't a fan so why would you be waiting to see something like Uncharted 4 that would make you cry with envy?

1Victor1134d ago

at least Sony conference didn't look like it was shot in a basement other than that they both did good. soooo were's XB0ne release date could the rumors be true?

DAS6921134d ago

@Septic
Although the show was VERY underwhelming a lot of the "Anticipation" was brought about from the community, not Sony. Also I agree with how cheap it felt... It was funny and I laughed, but I think it's important to remember that... What he said WAS the truth. Either way... MS has got a long way to go when it comes to recovery of their platform.

guitarded771134d ago (Edited 1134d ago )

To those saying that it was low of Sony to do... try watching Microsoft's GamesCom presentation. Pay special attention during the first pre-recorded video where they DO THE SAME THING, but actually name "Sony". When finished, go back to burying your heads in the sane HYPOCRITES!!!

http://www.gamespot.com/eve...

Ritsujun1134d ago

Shameless Xbone180 is ph-shameless.

papashango1134d ago

Sony announced games?

All I saw were crowd shots

CJDUNCAN1134d ago

Maybe true, but what bothers me about PS4 is how their "exclusive" games are fluffed with a lot of indie games that resemble arcade-ish quality.

SweetIvy1134d ago (Edited 1134d ago )

Why shouldn't a company show its customer base that they can trust it?
That's how I read his comment.

Sony planned and made the big announcement.
Then MS did its, and after the backlash basically started copying Sony's stance.
Why isn't it fair to point it out?

Also, it's not just gamers that listed to this conferences, it's also shareholders and whatnots, it's important to show this people a company is consistent and can be trusted.

nosferatuzodd1134d ago

people say this is not necessary Sony shouldn't take shots at Microsoft but when you see you're enemy on the ground you don't show any mercy Zodd shows no mercy you will kneel before Zodd or suffer

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Insomnia_841134d ago

I was like "oooohhhh shhh!!!! T!!!" And then lold

PSVita1134d ago

I bet MS were shaking in they're boots when the 32 countries by holiday was announced. They are behind 20 COUNTRIES, that's just crazy.

To be fair though the ps3 launched a whole year/year and a half after the Xbox and still caught up and or surpassed it.

rainslacker1134d ago

@PSVita

And that should be a reminder to everyone that a lot can happen over the course of a console generation. Just think, if it weren't for Kinect, 360 gamers may still be playing awesome 1st party IP's.

On topic.

Sony could have said what they did without specifically calling out the competition. Saying they have stayed true to their vision is all that was needed. People would know what Sony was referring to, and the implication would remain. It's how they handled E3, and it was pretty masterful.

Otherwise, it's fun watching the big guys take pokes at each other. The people on here need to relax a little bit. He was much more polite than 99% of the posters on here. Guess that's the British for ya'.

Cueil1134d ago

@PSVita I'm sure Microsoft is shaking in their boots... their so afraid... their stock went down when they dropped from a forcasted 21 billion to 19.7 billion USD... they wont lose any sleep over a company on the edge of failure taking pot shots at one of the most stable companies in the world

showtimefolks1134d ago

and he is 110% correct

sony is owning the gaming world right now, damn those indie games so many.

free to play also a big advantage to sony

finally now we have a release date

BTW my favorite game coming few weeks later from pS4

December 6th for GT6

jackanderson19851134d ago

they way they worded it though was "exclusive at launch" which means at some point should they wish they'll appear on the xbox one... also aren't most of the indies announced on the pc already ?

cyril sneer1134d ago

@showtimefolks

I find it funny for years now console gamers have used free to play and indie games as ammunition against pc saying its all we have to play(even though that is not true)

But now sony has them it's the best thing since sliced bread.

Dunpeal1134d ago

Did MS announce a specific launch date? I don't see one. Should we expect theirs to be Nov 15 too now since they're obviously interested in jocking the PS4 :)?

IcicleTrepan1134d ago

Nah, the rumour is they'll announce the Xbox One release date at PAX Prime. with a rumoured release date of Nov 22nd.

_FantasmA_1134d ago

They will probably launch 2 hours before PS4. LOL I hope M$ dies of cancer. I know it sounds evil, but they are the cancer of the gaming industry. Games are turning into a product because of them.

MWong1134d ago

That was a serious slap to the face, from Sony.

I still can't believe XBone is only launching in 12 countries.

gamertk4211134d ago

Xbox One on 11/12/13, just for the ease of marketing.

saber000051134d ago

@_FantasmA_, Though I agree that I hope the Xbone fails, I do not hope Microsoft "dies of cancer". I love their operating system and I don't want to switch to Linux or a mac OS... O_o

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TomShoe1134d ago

@Septic

Look me in the eye and tell me MS didn't deserve it.

Godz Kastro1134d ago

I agree Sony... Like charging your diehards $600 last gen and not thinking twice after the backlash... Oh, my bad they did respond. Get a 2nd job is what they said. Gt a second job!!!!

I wish Sony success, its the fanboys I target this to.

Seraphemz1134d ago (Edited 1134d ago )

How microsoft was when there was the DRM issue?

" dont like it...get a 360!"

Revolver_X_1134d ago

Yeah, good shot. A 7+ year old message from someone no longer running the show. You really got those Sony fanboys on that one! /s

SchwoererBear1134d ago

The blu ray player in the ps3 jacked the price up, Blu ray discs were almost unheard of when ps3 came out, now you can get a blu ray player for cheap, then not so much.

Drekken1134d ago

They dropped the price in the first 6 months. Selective memory is kicking in I see...

HammadTheBeast1134d ago

Just pointing out. In that time, Blu-ray players were about $800. So pretty fair price.

Not good, for a games console, but nothing to get butt-hurt over.

Oner1134d ago

Godz Kastro said ~

"Like charging......Oh, my bad they did respond. Get a 2nd job is what they said. Gt a second job!!!!"

Me ~ If you are going to use a quote, at least get the quote right. If not you are nothing but a troll who is trying to spread FUD and misinformation to suit your false agenda. Here is the actual quote ~

"During a recent interview with Japanese economic website Toyo Keizai, ever-charming Ken Kutaragi had this to say about Sony's goal for the PS3: "for consumers to think to themselves 'I will work more hours to buy one'. We want people to feel that they want it, irrespective of anything else.""

More hours does not equal a second job.

rainslacker1134d ago

PS3 also had a $500 model at launch. Funny how those like you who make this argument always neglect that fact. Were they were ridiculed for that? If so, are you saying that it's OK to ridicule MS now for their $500 price tag?

Either way, a system price is not really what MS is being given a hard time for. It seems high only in relation to the PS4, and people question why they have to buy the Kinect even if they don't want it. That's a wholly different scenario, as the $600 PS3 also had a larger hard drive so there was a discernible difference. That difference is laughable today, but it wasn't 7 years ago.