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Xbox One’s 8GB RAM Allows “Robust Particle Effects”, Hypervisor Is Awesome – Killer Instinct Dev

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Mystogan1520d ago

nobody is talking about Hypervisor because it's a positive thing for the X1. We only talk about the negatives. AA batteries..pshhh.. right guys?

staticdash221520d ago

Yep. Are we still living in 2003? I thought MS was trying to push us into the future? lol

malokevi1520d ago (Edited 1520d ago )

"why push us away from something that's readily available and easily accessible to everyone?"

:p

pedrof931520d ago (Edited 1520d ago )

If that's true Ps4's particles will even be better.

Since it has better ram and all.

NewMonday1520d ago

it's going to be close to impossible to make the the XB1 standout technically in a way that will impress core gamers, because other than Kinect the specs are inferior across the board compared to the PS4, so anything the XBone dose the PS4 can do better.

PFFT1520d ago

Lets see, Direct X 11.2(Xbox Only), Tiled resources Microsoft is a Software company SO it will have better Tools and Optimizations. if that doesnt impress anyone well that just means you are a Sony sheep.

nukeitall1520d ago (Edited 1520d ago )

@newmonday:

"it's going to be close to impossible to make the the XB1 standout technically in a way that will impress core gamers, because other than Kinect the specs are inferior across the board compared to the PS4,"

That is what was said about the Xbox 360 and PS3, and we know how that story went. That is of course, ignoring the fact that console market has changed signficantly from being game centric, to be more of an all around entertainment console.

"so anything the XBone dose the PS4 can do better."

That is of course ignoring features (remember how PS3 couldn't get cross game chat with supposed superior hardware) and content.

No matter what PS4 can achieve, I still can't play Ryse on it. Software and platform is the differentiating factor. Hardware is useless without software!

Seafort1520d ago

@PFFT
You mean megatextures that were already in Rage the game by id software?

Direct X 11 has been on PC for years but most of it's techniques have hardly been utilised because the console ports were DX9.

Most devs are just lazy and will not put any effort into any games they don't need to do. Look at the PS3 games this gen. The 3rd party devs couldn't be arsed to learn it's architecture so it got piss poor ports from the inferior xbox.

It's all about parity and not developing the games to the strengths of each platform.

HammadTheBeast1520d ago

@PFFT

11.2 doesn't even matter, most games still use DX 10 or 11, there's maybe a 5% that bother to go ahead.

NewMonday1520d ago

@@PFFT

you know DX is only relevant on MS based platforms because it is the only way they allow devs to access the hardware, it doesn't give you anything the hardware isn't able to handle.

@nukeitall

the 360 had better architecture, the PS3 had more raw power but was bottlenecked by RAM and the difficult CELL, that's why most 3rd party games were better on the 360 and only exclusives showed the PS3 potential.

this time around the PS4 architecture is better AND the power difference is much bigger, meaning 3rd, 2nd and 1st party games will all stand out on the PS4.

next gen you will hardly see any XBone vs PS4 face-off because the XB1 will loss every time

mikeslemonade1520d ago (Edited 1520d ago )

Killer Instinct is going to be a flop. It's a small-time developer that hasn't made a good game ever. They have no good reputation. Double-Helix made Silent Hill Homecoming which was there best game in 2008..

JackOfAllBlades1520d ago

@PFFT

DirectX 11.2 will also be available to PC gamers thank you very much. I am a PC gamer but will eventually pick up a PS4 for the exclusives. The Xbox looks alright, but I probably won't pick one up for years, and only then if it doesn't have problems and has a nice selection of exclusives I'd like to play.

Gozer1520d ago

I would say MS is pushing us into the future. Who thought of Achievements?Who thought of cross game chat? Who thought of using voice recognition in a console? Who had 8GB of RAM and forced sony to add 4 more GBs?

Who has 300 thousands servers ready to make dedicated servers part of their online gaming service? Who has a special algorhythmm in their online service that matches you with the best people for your online game? Who allows you to review other players and give them an online reputation? Who allows in-game video chat?etc,etc,etc

Ive noticed most people here choose to focus on the negatives of a MS consoles instead of what they have done to improve gaming. Sad state if you ask me.

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tokugawa1520d ago

as per usual, the trolls arrive and the useless mods do nothing...

DragonKnight1520d ago

@Gozer: "Who thought of Achievements?" Individual games have had achievements well before Live was created.

"Who thought of cross game chat?"

PC

"Who had 8GB of RAM and forced sony to add 4 more GBs?"

Where's your proof of that?

"Who has 300 thousands servers ready to make dedicated servers part of their online gaming service?"

Firstly, there's no indication that there will be 300K physical servers. Secondly, that's not a move towards the future. That's simply taking what already exists and adding more of it.

"Who has a special algorhythmm in their online service that matches you with the best people for your online game?"

Ummm... are you serious?

"Who allows you to review other players and give them an online reputation?"

Again, how is this something that moves anyone towards the future? This kind of thing already exists in other forms across platforms like the PC.

"Who allows in-game video chat?"

*sigh*

"Ive noticed most people here choose to focus on the negatives of a MS consoles instead of what they have done to improve gaming. Sad state if you ask me."

What Microsoft has done to improve gaming they did with the original Xbox, and that was Xbox Live. Since then they haven't done anything to improve gaming. With the Xbox 360 they were perfectly fine with retaining the disc medium of the previous gen, they didn't ship their console with built in wi-fi, they didn't allow for the user to swap out harddrives with anything but their own proprietary hard drive.

Unless you consider a paywall to be moving the future forward, what did the 360 do to move gaming forward? Remember, Live already existed with the original Xbox so the most you could say was "they improved Live."

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andrewer1520d ago

stop flooding staticdash22 inbox lol

Gozer1520d ago

@DragonKnight
The only thing you did was pick and choose and avoid over half of my response. I feel like Ive already wasted too much time on you obvious troll attempt. So good luck with your P2P servers and inferior online community with plain jJane features.

MazzingerZ1520d ago

@Gozer
All that was Bungie's ideas, Halo 2 online features, MSFT just took them and implemented them as theirs

Evilsnuggle1520d ago (Edited 1520d ago )

PFFT** I love XBOTS Only they can make a disadvantage looks like an advantage. Example kinect PFFT DIRECT X 11.2(ONLY on xbone) is not hey advantage its a disadvantage The ps4's opengl based API like PS2's API & PS3's libGCM offers much more low level access to the hardware without the need to go through nearly as many abstraction layers as DirectX does. This lets developers to take advantage of the performance benefits it offers over DirextX. do not offer much low level access to hardware. It has to go through numerous abstraction layers and isn't that efficient. Back in 2011 AMD's chef was complaining how much DirectX holds back pc performance. [source] http://www.tomshardware.com... http://www.bit-tech.net/har... numerous 3rd party Xbox360 developers have talked about how the custom DirectX for Xbox holds back performance. [source] http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

The ps4's opengl based API like PS2's API & PS3's libGCM offers much more low level access to the hardware without the need to go through nearly as many abstraction layers as DirectX does. Sony is also offering a highlevel wrapper giving developers easier tools to work with [source] http://www.eurogamer.net/ar... PS4 also uses Direct X 11.

DragonKnight1520d ago

@Gozer: "So good luck with your P2P servers."

Oh, you mean like Xbox 360's Live service? And I'm interested in seeing the information you have that says the PS4 is going to have P2P servers and what the features of PS+ are going to be. You clearly don't know what they are and it's laughable that you think that tv integration is such a necessary, innovative feature that is for real gamers.

trafalger1520d ago

can anyone explain why sony fanboys continue to come into xbone topics and not discuss the actual article?

"The Xbox One has a ton of memory in the form of 8GB DDR3 RAM, so we asked them about how the team benefits from it, to which they replied, “Higher resolution textures, dynamic high quality music, and robust screen/ particle effects are just a few things that we are able to do with all of the glorious memory.”"

so instead of talking about how extra ram helps developers some users are talking about the disc medium on the x360???

am i missing something here?

listen carefully, if the xbone doesn't interest you then bugger off and take your personal issues somewhere private.

Gozer1520d ago

@DragonKnight
You tried to play off my op with nonsense. You didnt come across with anything informative, thats not my fault.

Sony simply hasnt been investing enough in their online infrastructure, Ms spent billions on theirs. But sony has been in diar straights financially so I imagine they are spread pretty thin. PSN will still not be the equivalant of Live next gen. But it will be worth the price they are chargging.

MS has grown the online gaming industry with Live. And yes dedicated servers for all games was lacking this gen with the 360, but next gen Live will be the place to be for online gaming. With snap mode, dedicated servers on all online games, in game video chat{hey look we dont have to wonder if the chic we are talking to looks like a circus tent}, Smart Match, as welll as the tv features, all combine to make a very compeling purchase.

With the ps4, simply put,you get a more powerful ps3 nothing more,nothing less.

JP13691519d ago

@Pfft

The fact that you think Direct X is an advantage makes you the sheep. Sigh, this site is full of morons.

corvusmd1519d ago

nevermind that the controller itself is a huge improvement on top of already being the most comfortable an accurate console controller ever...lets focus on the fact that it gives us the OPTION to use AA batteries, get a rechargable battery, or plug it in directly with ANY USB/Mini Usb cable (like the one a PS3 uses) and have the most accurate controller you can have without using any battery....nope...that's WAY worse than a controller that loses half it's "upgraded functions" because the system doens't come with the components to make it work

corvusmd1519d ago

Well Hammad

have fun with that open gl then...whether the XB1 uses the available and exclusive DX 11/11.1/11.2 their drivers are much better than the Open GL PS4 will use. YES, I know it was mentioned back in March that PS4 would utilize DX 11...for blu-ray play functionality....but for games it's always been Open GL....but since you think it's a waste of time and worthless to use these drivers that every developer loves...don't worry, it won't be a problem of yours

Blacktric1519d ago (Edited 1519d ago )

"That is of course, ignoring the fact that console market has changed signficantly from being game centric, to be more of an all around entertainment console."

Spoken like a true MS PR guy. Keep this up and I'm sure they'll make you host the next E3 conference.

I mean that second half of the quoted sentence alone is enough to make anyone, who at least knows some basic stuff about the industry, throw themselves out of the nearest window...

rainslacker1519d ago (Edited 1519d ago )

@Gozer

I find it odd...being a "Sony dominated site", that you would get a well said when not a single thing you listed can be credited to MS.

"Who thought of Achievements?"

Any number of games that came out before the Xbox. Star Ocean 3 seems popular on Gaf as one of the first. That's what I found with a cursory look up on google. I can remember them being implemented in some games before that, although can't remember specifically which ones. I guess they could be credited as being the first to have system wide achievements in a structured setting though.

"Who thought of cross game chat?"

PC. Been available for a very long time. On a side note, until recently, MS was considered to be one of the worst providers of voice chat software. Skype uped their service considerably when they brought it. I remember using cross game chat back when I used compuserve over 20 years ago.

"Who thought of using voice recognition in a console?"

Nintendo in 1998 for the N64 with the game Hey You, Pikachu! as recorded by the guiness book of world records.

http://www.guinnessworldrec...

"Who had 8GB of RAM and forced sony to add 4 more GBs?"

Dunno. MS never confirmed it's 8GB of RAM until the reveal. Dev's were asking for more RAM, so I guess they forced both companies.

"Who has 300 thousands servers ready to make dedicated servers part of their online gaming service?"

No one. Not all those servers are dedicated to gaming, despite popular reports. Even if there were, it doesn't match up to the actual number of servers that MS has for cloud. They wouldn't dedicate that many physical resources to X1 when there is much more money in other applications. 300K if true is probably virtual servers, in which case they should have just aimed high and said 1 million since no one who keeps throwing out this number researches Azure anyways.

"Who has a special algorhythmm in their online service that matches you with the best people for your online game?"

Steam announced this feature back in 2008.

"Who allows you to review other players and give them an online reputation?"

Social media sites. Pogo did this back in the day before the EA takeover. Probably after as well. I recall not wanting to play with people who had one star.

"Who allows in-game video chat?"

PS4 does. Wii U does for some games(Tanks, Tanks, Tanks being the only one I know of for sure).

Now, I won't say that MS doesn't provide features for their users, because they do indeed offer those things you listed. But they are hardly the forerunner, or the creator, of any of these innovations that you give them credit for.

gcolley1519d ago

Another xbox article taken over by trolls. Mental problems much?

Ritsujun1519d ago

Xbone180's dead before release.

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Mounce1520d ago

Lets talk about the Powerglove.

Lets talk about Hypervisor.

I feel a similar fate coming here.

theWB271520d ago

Are you trying to compare tech that is already proven and been around for years to a add-on peripheal?

Desparate much Mounce?? LOL seriously...we can't take the hypervisor out and play with it.

Loki861520d ago (Edited 1520d ago )

No comment.

I will however say that hypervisor is in someway in both consoles because they can both suspend/resume, it just has better implementation on the X1 because it can free up to 7.5g for gaming and transfer that Ram usage on the fly to snap bars or new processes.

PFFT1520d ago

Take a break Mr.Tryhard!

Mounce1520d ago

@PFFT

I clearly didn't need to try hard to get so many people upset by saying one stupid thing. I wasn't even trolling, I just say one random thing and silly zealous users on this site love jumping at others throats, overly-hostile random nobodies attacking strangers, Bravo!

theWB271520d ago (Edited 1520d ago )

"@PFFT "

"I clearly didn't need to try hard to get so many people upset by saying one stupid thing. I wasn't even trolling, I just say one random thing and silly zealous users on this site love jumping at others throats, overly-hostile random nobodies attacking strangers, Bravo!"

Urban Dictionary-The art of deliberately, cleverly, and secretly pissing people off, usually via the internet, using dialogue. Trolling does not mean just making rude remarks: Shouting swear words at someone doesn't count as trolling; it's just flaming, and isn't funny. Spam isn't trolling either; it pisses people off, but it's lame.

Real meaning-Verb
Fish by trailing a baited line along behind a boat: "we trolled for mackerel".
Search for something.

Hey Mounce...that is the very definition of trolling. Thanks for admitting...that's always the first step. Now that you've acknowledged you're a troll..the next step is to not do it and people won't reply to you the way they do.

I hope this helps in your future posts, wherever they may be.

t3rrorc3ll1520d ago

wb27 the word is trawling when it is used in fishing terms. Not even close. Seriously where do you guys get your education from

Mounce1520d ago

@theWB27

Thanks for the laugh. Haha XD

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LordMaim1520d ago

When they talk about actual numerical specs for the CPU and GPU, then I'll talk about the positives. If there turn out to be any, of course.

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GodGinrai1520d ago

Yes....Its true...I like to play the graphics too..I dont care about how good a game plays..I play the tesselation and HDR lighting.

quenomamen1520d ago

Hard to talk about the positives when we the consumers almost got our collective asses tore up by MS less than 3 months ago and have been nothing but flip flopping BS artists since then. So excuse us for not getting moist about some particle effects in a rehash of a game from 1992, maybe if they announce they're also re-releasing Mortal Kombat with particle effects that will help us forget.

jackanderson19851520d ago

they tried something new, there was negative backlash so they changed it.

not quite sure what the issue is and why people keep bringing it up... companies try new things quite often, sometime they're a hit sometimes they're not

Remember MS didn't have to change anything and i know people will say "oh the pre-order numbers" that's what changed their mind.. but who pre-orders? the customers so therefore they were listening to the feedback and changing it to adapt to the markets demands

andrewsqual1520d ago (Edited 1520d ago )

@jackanderson1985 They removed their own restrictions of whats main goal was to get EVEN more money out of you. That's it. Thank you Microsoft? Now you just continue to rip your fans off with your new console like the way you always have with the 360? Why is that still good?

Markissluv1520d ago

I think it's time for some people to grow up. If a company does something you aren't happy with then speak out. When they change it, be happy and move on. Enough of this crying and wining about how microsoft tried to screw the consumer. Get over yourselves. They are a business and aren't here wipe your a$$.

razrye1520d ago

Genius reply. Thank god for someone with sense. Bubble up

Evilsnuggle1520d ago

Yes *jackanderson*
lets all give microSCAM a award for changing their policies because of lack of pre orders .thank you we microSCAM no one wants to buy a xbone so you change things wonderful.
markissluv*
If you in a store and they had bad business practices and screwed up your order and overcharged you would you go back to that store. Maybe I should just get over it and go back to that store chances are it's going to happen again. If the xbone sell double or triple the game console more than PS4 DRM,always online, no used games and mandatory KINECT would all be back tomorrow.

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AngelicIceDiamond1520d ago

New Mondays comment reeks of insecurity please Jesus someone save this child.

Even Monday doesn't belive what he just said. Hes just trying desperatetly find an argument that isn't there. You need to put your insecure fanboy "justifications" to bed.

3-4-51520d ago

Nobody cares about particle effects in a fighting game, we do care they your charging us per character.

Learn what people really want Microsoft.

Markissluv1520d ago

People seem to want choice and if you did your research you would see that you have the option of paying for the game as a whole and not just individual characters.

spoonard1520d ago

What does it say when the negatives are so much more prominent than the positives though? Everytime I see a story that tries to hype the X1's hardware capabilities, I think "Yeah, but the PS4 will do that better."

TwistedMetal1520d ago

there is nothing positive about the xbox one as long as the ps4 exists. its best just to get the ps4 right now so that the xbox one and Microsoft will actually have to give you deals and lowerthe price for the xbox one.

showtimefolks1520d ago

PS4 architecture is better AND the power difference is much bigger, meaning 3rd, 2nd and 1st party games will all stand out on the PS4.

Pope_Kaz_Hirai_II1520d ago

Sad little kids on this site pretending to be neutral.

ShiranaiJittai1519d ago

@seafort "Most devs are just lazy and will not put any effort into any games they don't need to do. Look at the PS3 games this gen. The 3rd party devs couldn't be arsed to learn it's architecture so it got piss poor ports from the inferior xbox."

YOU ARE WRONG dead wrong. Let me first start by saying that I definitely prefer the PS3 to the 360 and have owned a Playstation product since the N64 Launch date so don't argue "loyalty" here. Saying most devs are lazy and can't be bothered to learn the hardware?

This is IGNORANCE So much more is required to make videogames then it was 20 years ago. Games cost an insurmountable amount more to make than they used to, They require much more time to develop, many more programs, and factors are involved, What used to be a dozen or so on a team has become THOUSANDS.

This is why I constantly find myself joining and quitting forum sites the ignorance. I love SONY (Playstation division specifically) don't get me wrong one of my all time favorite companies though I definitely think they used to be better than they are now (though PS4 looks to be back on the right track so far)

For you to say that all devs are lazy though? Just ignorance shame on you. Every game no matter how reviews receive it people put their heart blood and tears into making. It doesn't matter what platform it is on the amount of risk vs reward involved in game production is staggering. Educate yourself look past the coke bottle glasses. That is all I ask. Again to reiterate I am NOT calling you stupid but ignorant meaning poorly informed. So inform yourself get the facts straight so you can be taken seriously.

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first1NFANTRY1520d ago

good to hear. the more features both consoles have the better multiplats will be for everyone.

Biggest1520d ago

That may not be true. Here's to hoping that none of the console manufacturers force parity at the detriment of one or the other.

starchild1520d ago

That's never happened, so I don't know why you would be worried about it.

Some games looked or ran better on PS3, some looked or ran better on the 360.

If there was some kind of rule that games had to be equal we wouldn't have seen that.

Septic1520d ago

"Imagine waiting in a lobby for your match to start while you read through a gamefaq on some combos you want to practice during the match.”

THIS I can see myself doing a lot. In fact, when I was playing MK9, I was on my phone constantly watching people perform combos on Youtube.

I really hope the snap features operate intuitively and smoothly.

n4rc1520d ago

ill be honest... this is where the TV integration will be huge for me.. i'll end up throwing the tv on in the corner while im waiting..... but the ability to watch walkthroughs while in the game is going to be a nice feature as well...

Saddam_hussein1520d ago

Gonna watch baseball while I play baseball

GodGinrai1520d ago

"the ability to watch walkthroughs while in the game is going to be a nice feature as well..."

Handy for games like skyrim and so forth :D

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Gekko361520d ago

@iMixMasTer872 Yes I like my games the same way I like sex... CASUAL. Chill the f*ck out!

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Mystogan1520d ago

yeah it looks like you can snap videos too. That is just killer man.