New PS Vita Model Rumor Stands on Weak Legs: Cited Source Doesn’t Exist

Today the website Magic Box reported a rumor by a “Japanese newspaper” allegedly named “Tokyo Keizai“, advocating that Sony would reveal a new PS Vita model before Tokyo Game Show.

The problem, besides the fact that the rumor does not make much sense in itself, is that the "Tokyo Keizai" newspaper does not exist.

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JoelT1709d ago

The state of fact checking in games journalism is a joke. And then people wonder why game sites aren't taken seriously. What does it take to: send an email? Investigate? Be a Journalist?


This is why we can't have nice things.

abzdine1709d ago

in this period all kinds of websites are looking to maximize their views.
a vita with more RAM will not be called Vita anymore, it's maybe Vita 2 or something.
The only thing that might happen to Vita is a price cut and/or a slimmer version with same specs.

LOGICWINS1709d ago

Im guessing the current model will drop to $149.99 and the new model will be $199.99. This would explain why Best Buy and Target are selling the current model right now for $200(at a $50 premium). Im sure Sonys already told both of them what will happen on Tuesday.

Abriael1709d ago

@LOGICWINS: there's no new model mate. A "rumor" the source of which does not exist is pretty much an invented lemon.

LOGICWINS1709d ago (Edited 1709d ago )

Just because THIS particular rumor has been proven false doesnt mean that there wont be slimmer Vita this year. The bigger screen is b.s. since it would increase costs for Sony, but more RAM and a lighter build remains a possibility since guess what? Sonys done it before.

BattleAxe1708d ago

That is unfortunate that the source doesn't exist, because I would love to see a Vita with a bigger screen, and an HDMI output would be nice also. Some people say that it doesn't make sense for Sony to make a bigger Vita, but did it make sense for Nintendo to make the 3DS XL?

admiralvic1708d ago (Edited 1708d ago )

@ BattleAxe

"But did it make sense for Nintendo to make the 3DS XL?"

I take it you don't own either device. Correct?

The 3DS XL and Vita are about equally thick, but the 3DS XL only comes to the PlayStation button (if you go from the other end to that end), which means even NOW the Vita is larger than the XL.

So if you're asking if it makes sense that a device was made larger, but still smaller than the Vita is logical to make the Vita even larger... then I really don't know what to say.

Here is a googled picture to give you an idea of their difference in size.

EeJLP-1708d ago

*Physical L2, R2, L3, R3
*At least 16GB built in memory

Give us that and I'm a buyer.. mostly for PS4 remote play. I have very little interest in handheld gaming on its own, but I'd be a buyer with the physical buttons for better remote play.

Ju1708d ago (Edited 1708d ago )

I don't know. After reading a couple of sites and seeing how the current Vita is discounted it looks quite like a "end of live" sale. With adding this to a changed strategy and bigger focus on remote play (and given that Sony sells a 6.4" Phablet called the XperiaZ) Sony has experience with that screen size already and it would be much better suited for a second screen feature than the current Vita. I am almost inclined to conside this a possibility. There are quite some argument pointing to a new Vita version.

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ShugaCane1709d ago

It's not about journalism, it's about clicks and hits hunting.

JoelT1709d ago (Edited 1709d ago )

A wise person once told me:

"if you create good content, the traffic will come; and when it does show up it will be the good kind that will appreciate the work that you create"

When you write for traffic you get no where.

matgrowcott1709d ago


You're joking, right?

If you create good content, it'll be lost in a sea of SEO and faster updates. The very basis of the internet is built around hits and trusted sources. That's why nobody will ever knock down any of the big sites; they're just too into everything.

If you don't have any hits, and you're not the one to break a story, nobody reads your work. It doesn't matter if it's the best thing ever, Google won't even find you if you're not providing something of value that goes beyond "this article is good."

That you have seven agrees really, really worries me, because that means there are seven people that think games journalism could just "get good." Nope. Unless you already have a flood of hits, you can't do anything but play the game.

JoelT1708d ago (Edited 1708d ago )


Don't be ignorant.

SEO is nonsense. Google doesn't rank based on SEO anymore. And they haven't for more than 4 years now. The "panda" update killed that. SEO is nothing but a suckers bet for programers to take money from people that don't know any better.

Google has written algorithms that crawl sites that add value to the content that they're providing.

Contact google yourself to find out.

An example is: you can post a new trailer for a game and say "hey, here's a new trailer." And post it first on

But if I post it on DualShockers (even days after) and describe why the trailer is significant, the next time Google crawls the site, it will instantly give it better ranking then yours, because I added value and substance.

Also, it's all about the strength of the links pointing back at you and your posts that will get you a better ranking. And being first doesn't necessarily get you those links from those other sites. Covering the entire situation and being thorough with your data is what get's you those link backs.

There are algorithms in place for publishers that "play the game," and Google will make it so that those publishers continue to just "play the game" instead of being a real stand out star.

The big sites can get away with it because so many other places on the internet link back to them, making their voices (ranking) the most prominent.

Research, you should try it.

Start here:

matgrowcott1708d ago (Edited 1708d ago )

"SEO is nonsense."

"Google has written algorithms that crawl sites that add value to the content that they're providing."

"Also, it's all about the strength of the links pointing back at you and your posts that will get you a better ranking."

"Covering the entire situation and being thorough with your data is what get's you those link backs."

So what you're saying is that you have keyword rich text and keep up to date with things that people are searching for, Google will reward you?

I hate to tell you this, my friend, but that's SEO.

That goes doubly for the links as well. That is literally optimizing your site for search engines.

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admiralvic1709d ago

"What does it take to: send an email? Investigate? Be a Journalist? "

Unfortunately we live in a shoot first and ask questions later society. Contrary to the past, where you would have an indefinite amount of time to verify / contact / track down sources... we have a lot of people posting one thing, someone posting this unverified information on one site and everyone following suit because they want views. Furthermore... very few people actually review the reviewer or these sites, which directly results in them not being accountable for their actions. Look at Pacher. He is wrong 80%+ of the time and the other 20% is him stating the obvious (like the PS4 / XB1 will release in time for the holidays.)

If people took the time to verify the information that some people are presenting to you, then you would see the game journalists improve or at least the awful ones will be ignored. Like I know a reviewer that practically reviewed Soul Sacrifice off the content in the demo, but no one questioned him because the score met expectations.

JoelT1709d ago (Edited 1709d ago )

Unfortunate is right. I'm very big into the tech sites (i.e. The Verge, Engadget, etc.) but I absolutely HATE it when there's a big announcment and they publish an empty post with a flashy title and it just says:


It's like... seriously? In my head I'm thinking "Aren't your publications so huge with dedicated fans and readers that you don't need to publish this drivel?"

Publish when you're ready instead of trying to be first. It's SO annoying. /endrant

admiralvic1709d ago

@ JoelT

"It's like seriously? Aren't your publications so huge with dedicated fans and readers that you don't need to publish this drivel. Publish when you're ready instead of trying to be first. It's SO annoying. /endrant"

Blame sites like N4G for this happening in the GJ field. There is a strict "first come, first serve" policy, which results in the first publication to break the story and post it here, gets the credit. Other sites can post their version / post after, but typically a duplicate report will result in those getting taken down. The only real exception is if it's super no name site vs IGN.

trafalger1709d ago

why would sony release an upgraded version of vita if the older one isn't even selling? if anything they would make a cheaper model, not one with more bells and whistles. the tech is not why vita isn't selling.

someone could whisper something out loud at a urinal and some wannabe journalist will go on twitter and say "guess what i heard".

then again look at what articles are approved here. how many of why i'm not buying a xbone topics do we need? or 5 reasons why you should get a ps4 or a xbone. its like people are sitting idle at there computer all day waiting for something to happen so they just make stuff up or repeat yesterdays news.

Pixel_Enemy1709d ago

I didn't think it was true to begin with. Why release a new version with more ram? That would split the user base and games couldn't really take advantage of the new ram unless they were going to not work on older skus.

LOGICWINS1709d ago

The only thing that would change is faster load times.

HakatoX1708d ago

they did it with the psp.
umd cache onthe 2000 & 3000 cause the increased ram

EeJLP-1708d ago

They also wouldn't be splitting much of a user base.. currently only ~5.5mil. If it went on to sell 80mil like the PSP, Gameboy Advance.. or even only 60mil, that's under 10%.

Ju1708d ago (Edited 1708d ago )

Depends. If true, games would not have access to that RAM, but it would be possible to run more background services. Which means from a game perspective, nothing really changes. If Sony is really doing this, now would be the right time. Vita hasn't sold "that" much yet, and with the PS4 coming soon, this could be a change in strategy.

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3-4-51709d ago

It's the people in charge of these company's that is to blame.

There is no acountability and they aren't help liable for false statements.

If it meant you would lose your job for posting false news without a source or outright making things up, we would get a lot more of the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

matgrowcott1708d ago

I replied to another of your posts, but I'll reply to this as well.

Do you know how long you have to post a scoop? I'm guessing not.

I average out at around five minutes, but I could probably take as long as seven (for 200-300 words, SEO-rich, pictures sourced, fact checked). Some very poor journalists might just post the press release or write up a single sentence with no clarification as well, so even that isn't certain.

Of the three or four big stories that might come out every day, you have to be in the right place at the right time to get it. This in itself isn't easy, and you have only a few seconds whilst writing to fact check. This tends to be a speed read through a source that often has opposite points or doesn't source things correctly itself.

On more than one occasion, I've come across a story, contacted a PR person for clarification, only to be told to hold off on the story until more details are released. Those details - plus much of the story I've sent to the PR people - then end up on other, bigger sites where they can reach the maximum impact.

Fair enough, you might say, and I'd agree with you. It's the PR people's job to maximize their impact. It's not my job though, and you'll only be stung by that once or twice before you decide to abandon official channels entirely. You'll send them the link once it's published, and they may be happy with that or they may not. You probably won't know either way.

And don't even think of writing to them if the thing you're checking out is anything but relevant to the latest game, if it paints it in a good light and if it's already been cleared as something they can talk about. If it's been cleared, it's already been put in a press release and is common knowledge. If it hasn't, your email will go ignored.

The best sources tend to be individuals. While the whole world was calling down John Beiswenger - the guy who was suing Ubisoft over their allegedly using parts of his book for Assassin's Creed - I was the only member of the press that contacted him to hear his side of the story.

You know how many hits that post got? Not many. Because I wasn't saying he was a mad tosser. Nor would I. So I missed out.

And this next point isn't aimed at you, but to everybody. I'm getting a little tired of people saying be a "journalist." If you've never received a news brief asking for someone who can dish the dirt on something new or popular, you probably shouldn't speak about journalism.

Not even that.

If you've never heard a story about someone going through someone else's garbage, faking photographs or paying for close relatives to slag off a celebrity (read Piers Morgan for every point...), you don't know a thing about journalism. It's a pit, and I'm 100% happy that games journalism is nothing like it.

Unfair, difficult, too hit-focussed, maybe. We don't have enough power to be dangerous though. We're stamp collectors basically, and that's better than blackmail and straight up deceit.

Abriael1708d ago

Better to miss a "scoop" than to misinform your readers.

If you prefer short term popularity to long term reader satisfaction, that's your choice, mind you.

matgrowcott1708d ago (Edited 1708d ago )


Yup. Because that's exactly what I said.

Let me ask - do you twist your work this way, or is it just in your comments that you let your charming personality shine through so nicely?

EDIT - And your site has over 3500 N4G submissions, almost three a day for every day you've been submitting stories. Are you really going to pretend like all of this is beneath you?

rainslacker1708d ago (Edited 1708d ago )

So to sum up, you're saying, "Don't hate the player, hate the game".

People seem more upset about how game journalism is presented than with the actual people presenting it. However, since the journalist are the front men for the game, they are going to be the ones taking the abuse.

While I understand what you're saying, get it out as quickly and as accurately as possible or be irrelevant, isn't that the actual problem that gaming journalism should be striving to overcome as a whole?

If you look at "regular" journalism, the most respected journalist are the ones that go out and find stories, not the ones that wait around for them to come to them. Waiting on press releases, or trolling forums(obviously not this one), or happening on a chance comment from some dev/pub, is hardly compelling me to think game journalist are worthy of praise. There must be relevant stories out there in the industry worth talking about if some journalist started digging deeper. I'd find that much more interesting than the rehashed stories, or worse, the journalist that decide to make their own stories by pushing cultural agendas on their readership. There must be some huge stories out there that would shock your readers, and allow you to get hits at the same time. Those are the stories that the industry doesn't want us to know about. If they don't want us to know about them, there must be a reason for them to hide it.

While I understand that you feel it's not right for us to criticize those who report the news, it doesn't take a journalist to be able to see that many game journalist just don't have any integrity. To be dismissed because we aren't part of the game is insulting. You're basically telling us not to demand better.

matgrowcott1708d ago


No, I'm totally fine with people hating the player. But they should understand that there IS a game, and not everything is as simple or obvious as it first appears. No journalist - no matter how influential or popular - is going to get a developer to say something they don't want to, and that's what leads to a lot of the negativity in the industry.

In fact, that's true for all forms of journalism. If we don't get the story our readers want - because our readers love a spot of controversy - we'll find a way to get it. That's how we survive, no matter what we cover.

"isn't that the actual problem that gaming journalism should be striving to overcome as a whole?"

It's fallout from working online. There's no way to overcome it unless you already have millions of hits. When Penny Arcade said they could change games journalism, they did it from a position where they knew they had guaranteed readers. What do you think; have they changed anything?

I see online publications like the Daily Mail - the world's most popular online newspaper at one point, maybe still - post erroneous stories, spelling mistakes and even double posts all the time. If they can't perfect things, with all their money and professional staffers, how can a small gaming news site do any better?

More importantly, why do people expect them to? Why is there this high standard expected of games journalists when they are, as I said before, basically stamp collectors? This is especially confusing considering the kind of story that people generally flock towards.

It's the tabloid-y stuff.

"If you look at "regular" journalism, the most respected journalist are the ones that go out and find stories, not the ones that wait around for them to come to them."

The most respected journalists are the ones that put themselves on the very forefront of whatever they're covering, that really throw themselves into it. In war correspondence, you get people on the front lines, in harms way. In politics, you get people asking difficult questions to people in a public forum.

You don't get that sort of opportunity in gaming. If you ask difficult questions, those questions are ignored. If you get too close to the industry, you end up like Keighley, playing along with major reveals and hiding things in the name of good fun.

It WAS good fun, but your view on the specifics may make you ask exactly what the implications of that are.

"You're basically telling us not to demand better."

Not at all. Demand better, but understand the barriers between the current state of the press and this golden ideal that many feel we should strive towards.

It is what it is, and we need to improve within those constraints. But our readers need to know what those constraints are before expecting us to be above the level of the tabloids. We write for our market, because else we don't eat.

rainslacker1707d ago (Edited 1707d ago )

I see what you're saying. But this is what I'm getting at.

Game journalism seems to fall into two categories.

1. Industry mouthpieces.

For these, it can be broken into a couple categories.

First is the ones that relay information provided by the companies themselves. All fine and good. That kind of journalism is needed.

This is further broken down onto the opinion pieces on said release. A way to pad hits. Sometimes though editorial is definitely a good thing, although I find a great deal of it immature and poorly thought out.

The 2nd sub-category are the ones that pose things that the industry doesn't want to talk about. Thinks like the aftermath of the X1 reveal. I saw a lot of sites that I don't have much respect for actually going and trying to get the answers. Trying to be good journalist. I say kudos for all that did what I consider journalism to be. Too bad it was mostly short-lived. Those kinds of things are rare, and when pursued, tend to seem more vitriolic than just presenting the facts.

2. Those that make issues to push an article. I'll sum this up and just say Patricia Hernendez. These kinds of "journalist" go out of their way to get hits by inflaming an issue that doesn't actually exist. It doesn't have to be sexism of course, but these articles pose topics that aren't researched, aren't sourced, and aren't even editorial because it doesn't discuss a topic that is actually news. It's nothing more than a blog, and there is way too much of this being passed off as valid journalism today. This isn't even constrained to the video game industry either.

Before I continue, I would just like to say, that any site that needs to post to it's readers, "What do you think...etc" at the end of their article probably wrote a bad article. It's unnecessary to ask. People will already express their opinion. Also, any headline that starts with a question has already assumed the answer, and isn't just presenting facts, but an opinion...but I digress.

What I'm proposing is a third category. The kind of stories that come about because people notice things that don't seem right. Instead of flying off the handle to get hits, they research how these things came to be. FIND valid sources that can corroborate their hypothesis, and go after the meat of what is going on. They don't release a half-assed article that assumes things that aren't true for the sake of baiting hits.

Very rarely do we see these kinds of stories pop up. If a slight sparkle of intrigue happens to show up the first thing that happens is a story gets posted, posited, and speculation abounds. It ruins the story, because before any facts can actually be found, everyone has formed their opinion on what has actually happened.

rainslacker1707d ago

I'm not saying that everything is bad in game journalism, nor am I saying that the crap articles, or even the good ones that don't go far enough, need to disappear, just that game journalism as a whole could be taken much more seriously if those that pursue the field would at least look like they took it seriously.

As far as why I expect them too? Well a few months ago, or so, Steven Totillo, editor in chief of Kotaku, came on here to respond to a blog about his site. He defended the journalistic integrity and quality of stories of his site. I called him out on it, citing many examples of exactly the kind of thing that the blog in question, as well as my first comment to him, showed that he was simply wrong. I pointed out that while they do occasionally have a decent story, they aren't taken seriously because of the trash and filler that they put in, and that perception is king, and people's perception of Kotaku wasn't that far off the mark. I expect better, because they themselves act as something worth being respected. Simple as that.

There are good journalist out there, and while I can't name any off the top of my head, they care more about getting the story right, than getting as many hits as possible. They are the ones that when they break something big, everyone links to, and that is what they want, isn't it?

Now, I'm not saying that journalist shouldn't hold out on big reveals, or not hold back to keep the hype going. I understand that there has to be a level of respect among the industry and journalist so they don't screw up marketing plans and such. But there are serious issues out there worth pursuing. Maybe not life altering, but potentially industry changing. With gaming journalist having their ear about as close as an outsider can be to the inner circle, there is bound to be some good stories that none of them follow through on. Maybe it's just too much work.

Just remember, barriers are meant to be broken. If the last couple hundreds years of serious journalist took the, "that's just the way it is" attitude, that would have led to a pretty sorry state of affairs. And that's just the way it is.

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RememberThe3571708d ago

It's also on N4G for giving these fake ass sites a limelight. A fake ass rumor is allowed to stay on the front page and other sites see that if they make some shit up people will click on it and they'll get the attention they so clearly crave.

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NYC_Gamer1709d ago

That's why journalist should check out/ make sure these rumours come from legit sources before posting

Abriael1709d ago

I amazed they didn't even think to google "tokyo keizai" lol

ShugaCane1709d ago

Sony Gamescom's conference is tomorrow. If there is a new PSV model to come, it will most probably be revealed then.

nick3091709d ago

Not tomorrow, in 2 days.

Still, this rumor is weird because vita dosent sell good enough for sony to want to make a new model. Maybe ill sell mine if they really do so i can actually get the better1 if they really will.

Abriael1709d ago (Edited 1709d ago )

and the added ram that can't be used for games?

"hey, let's add 500 mb of ram, because we got space inside and we don't know what to do with it, and the Vita doesn't cost enough to make, rite?".

admiralvic1709d ago

Nothing about the rumor makes sense.

1) A Vita is already kind of large (longer than the XL already!) and a larger model would start to border on the counter productive. It would make keeping the Vita in your pocket extremely difficult / kill the portable concept altogether.
2) Doubling the RAM would result in an overall better unit, but it would alienate the most devoted fanbase if it started to make an overall impact on games. Some people have suggested this would not affect games, which brings into question why they would do it in the first place. Sure the OS would work better, but it's not in a state where it needs more RAM to be usable / working.
3) In line with the PS4 design? What does that even mean? Will it be a giant eraser that I might accidentally use on my school work and be like "Doh! I scratched my Vita erasing my math homework. :("
4) The absolute #1 and most common issue with the Vita is cost. This has NEVER ONCE been debated on N4G as to whither or not this is a factor in the device "failing". Even if all of the above doesn't result in a price increase, it will NOT result in a decrease. Most revisions are done in order to SAVE money, which I just can't see this doing in any reality.

Ju1708d ago (Edited 1708d ago )


1) Depends. Because of short battery live I use my Vita mostly in the home. Might as well be the majority of use cases. If so, screen size isn't that important (and we have 6" phones now). Also, it improves a 2nd screen or remote play feature. Also, there is headroom on the current Vita to make a 6" display only physical marginal bigger than the current model (seamless display, eg).

2) More RAM could make sense to keep apps alive in the background - or even run more than one game (keeping the second on standby).

3) Remote play & second screen feature.

4) This will not cost more. I could imagine, OLED would be replaced by a TFT, though (see Xperia Ultra).

gaelic_laoch1709d ago

I cannot believe that SONY would announce a new vita just before the launch the mighty PS4! A new vita reveal would make more sense next year to keep those juices going.

This year belongs to PS4 but I do have a good feeling regarding the vita as it is a fantastic piece of hardware!

JoelT1709d ago (Edited 1709d ago )

Unless, it was ONLY available in a bundle with the new system at like $549 or something. But again, that's a very big what if scenario. I'm pulling at straws here.


Now that the current price cut has been confirmed at Target this week, if there is a bundle, it will likely be the current one.

From what I've read online (search for sources), Sony is sitting on a lot of Vita inventory. Bundling it with the PS4 would make the most sense, especially if they start marketing the benefits of having both systems.

admiralvic1709d ago (Edited 1709d ago )

So you think that Sony would not only announced a PS4 / Vita bundle, but increase a better version of the system with it? All this would do is anger current buyers, turn people off buying the old system, them taking a loss on this bundle and would bring into question why they didn't just scrap CURRENT stock as a bundled model and send out the new model to replace the old ones they scraped.

"Now that the current price cut has been confirmed at Target this week"

It's a sale. Come on! You complain about journalists not verifying things, but it seems like neither of you can even read. (for those thinking this is rude. Remember that the words below were DIRECTLY on the leaked image used for this information")

"all available items:
PlayStation Vita WiFi System

reg. 249.99-299.99. SAVE $50-$100 ON ALL PS VITA GAME SYSTEMS."

They don't put regular prices on things that get a price cut. They typically put "new low price" or simply just show $200 dollars without a statement on price.

"Bundling it with the PS4 would make the most sense, especially if they start marketing the benefits of having both systems."

It really wouldn't. The benefits are pretty much play your PS4 games on the go and that is part of the reason why the Vita is failing (early ads made it seem like a PS3 add on). The secret to success isn't writing off the Vita as a add on. It's to highlight the experiences IT can bring to the table (Killzone Mercs) and the features IT can do on its own. Bundling the system before it proves itself just makes it seem like a neat add on / copy of the Wii U in most peoples eyes.

LOGICWINS1709d ago (Edited 1709d ago )

^^The current buyers should have waited for Gamescom, the usual time of year where Sony announces revisions and price drops. Besides, the new Vita doesnt make the current Vita "worthless". All the reasons you bought a Vita still apply today. If u cant handle the fact that other people are getting a better deal than you because they have PATIENCE, then thats on you for not waiting.

@JoelT- Correct. Knowing that everyone will want to buy the new model, Sony will give away the old one for cheap for $100 bundled with the PS4. This makes sense because the old Vita model would sell better bundled with the PS4 than it would on its own competing with a revised Vita model.

Godlovesgamers1708d ago

"The problem, besides the fact that the rumor does not make much sense in itself, is that the "Tokyo Keizai" nespaper does not exist. (PS Vita)"

Whats a "nespaper"? I know what a "newspaper" is.

vigilante_man1708d ago

Do you know what "pedantic" is?

vigilante_man1708d ago

Grammar Police does not equal humour.

Humour = "A man walked into a bar...".

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