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Why we don't need to worry too much about the Wii U

Since the Wii U has launched to less than stellar sales, Gameosaur's Keith's Dad seen a lot of people ready to dig the boot into Nintendo, and even go so far as to suggest they duck out of the hardware business entirely. However, he's not quite so pessimistic – and here’s why.

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porkChop1465d ago (Edited 1465d ago )

1) No one needs to worry about the Wii U because of 3 games? 3 games will never "save" a system. Long-term support and the right price is what makes a system successful.

2) Really? You compare Mario Kart 1080p/60fps to Killzone: Shadowfall 1080p/30fps and somehow come to the conclusion that that means there's "more under the hood than the Wii U is given credit for." There's a big difference between a kart racer and an FPS with large levels, GPU physics, stunning particle effects, massive explosions, etc. There's also a massive difference in the graphical quality of these 2 games.

3) "To conclude, I’d like to make a comparison with the 3DS – another Nintendo system with a less than successful first year. However, that first year ended with the release of some core franchises, namely Mario and Mario Kart, and with them came a huge upturn in fortunes. I don’t think it takes much imagination to see the similarities here?"

You're forgetting that along with the games came an utterly massive price drop. That price drop is what saved the 3DS.

Now don't get me wrong, I want the Wii U to succeed, and I will purchase one at a price I find more reasonable. But this article was very poorly done, and overall just doesn't make a lot of sense.

N4g_null1465d ago

Nope its all about the games. Killzone has titan and destiny to deal with yet mario kart you can only get that on the wiiu in hd. Plus there is the fact that those 3 games sold way more than killzone. We are talking about sales not your personal pref here. Gears turned the x360 around, uncharted helped show the ps3 real power, creativity. Tetris sold the gameboy single handly and wii sport had the wii in places where games have never been.

its wishful thinking that people will pass up sd games running in hd with even better game play.... killzone has ummmm better graphics the game play seems to still be lacking but I digress, the wiiu can only be declared lost once Nintendo has released their games. The system always needs it's library only a fanboy would ignore the fact that the other shoe has not dropped.

porkChop1465d ago

What are you talking about? Sales have nothing to do with what I said. The author compared the frame rates between Mario Kart and Killzone and claimed that somehow means the Wii U has more power than we realize. He didn't take into account the differences between the 2 games visuals, nor did he consider all the things happening on screen in the games.

Killzone is NOT competing with Destiny or Titanfall as neither game will be releasing until next year. Titanfall isn't even on PS4 so it doesn't compete with Killzone in any way.

I never said the Wii U was "lost", nor did I ever say anything about it not needing its library of games.

Your entire post has literally nothing to do with mine, and frankly it makes zero sense.

_QQ_1464d ago

A Pokemon main game console RPG, Super smash bros Kart,and Smash Bros VS All Stars(smash bros gameplay)would save any system if those games existed.

chente00251464d ago

@porkchop

Have you seen bayonetta 2? That runs at 60fps/1080p and has a ton of things going on at the same time on screen.sooo......yeah, wii u has some muscle under the hood!

porkChop1464d ago

Man, I'm not saying the Wii U is weak. I'm just saying that the way he came to that conclusion literally makes no sense.

You can't take 2 completely different games, with completely different levels of detail, and completely different amounts of stuff happening on screen, and somehow come to the conclusion that one console somehow is more powerful than we think.

It doesn't work that way, there are so many variables and so many factors to consider when talking about 30fps versus 60fps.

We know what hardware the Wii U has, we know exactly what it's capable of, we know it can put out some good games. But that doesn't change the fact that what the author said makes no sense.

It's pretty obvious that everyone completely misunderstood what I was saying judging by all the disagrees.

awesomeabe19981464d ago

@porkChop

No, we dont know how powerful the Wii U is yet. Maybe you and I do but most people do not, and NFS Most Wanted U looked like a PC version on the Wii U but there is still more yet to come.

Shnazzyone1464d ago

3 words say why wii u will inevitably do just fine.

Mario Kart Eight

KeithsDad1463d ago (Edited 1463d ago )

As the author of this piece, I'd like to contend with each of the points made here.

1 - Looking at the article again, I actually mention 7 Wii U games throughout the piece, and at no point do I actually suggest any of them will "save" (I don't know why you chose to add quotation marks there as I didn't once use that term) the Wii U. In fact, I never even suggested the Wii U needed saving in the first place, so quite how you've come to that conclusion, I'm not sure. The piece was describing how the hardware itself, and Nintendo's policies as a whole, suggest the Wii U will enjoy a change in fortunes soon.

2 - The only aspect of Killzone: Shadow Fall that I used for a comparison was the frame rate. Given that a first party developer for the PS4 would target 30 FPS for a key launch title (a first person shooter, no less), Nintendo deserve to be commended for opting for 60 FPS for a title that, in it's own right, is very impressive graphically. If you had read the rest of the paragraph properly, you'd see that the misconception I was challenging was that the Wii U couldn't keep up with the PS3 and XBox 360, and as such all of the games I alluded to in that section (not just Mario Kart 8) would suggest that, yes, actually, there is "more under the hood than the Wii U is given credit for."

3 - To suggest that the price drop for the 3DS is what boosted the sales of the 3DS (not "saved" - it's a stupid term to use as it wasn't exactly in peril to begin with) is a valid point, but it's not one I agree with. The price drop actually came several months beforehand, not at the same time as the higher profile games, so I'm not forgetting anything, and yes, there was a boost in sales to go with it. However, it was nothing compared to the increase around the time Mario Kart 7 and Super Mario 3D Land were released. Granted, that time also happened to be in the run up to Christmas, which will have inflated those figures, but with the sales for the 3DS still going strong now that top releases are appearing more regularly, without another price cut, and with the significantly more expensive 3DS XL having been introduced, I'm more inclined to think the high profile games were the major catalyst. In fact, the Wii U has seen price cuts in the UK recently, and still didn't enjoy a significant rise in sales. The price isn't the problem, it's the lack of high profile games, a sentiment which is echoed by Nintendo themselves, with Iwata recently confirming there won't be an official price drop any time soon.

If anyone were to disagree with a point I've made, or think that I've omitted something, as you have done with regards the price drop of the 3DS, I'd encourage them to bring it up, and I'd be happy to discuss it. But frankly, I find it insulting that you'd suggest that the article "was very poorly done, and overall just doesn't make a lot of sense" when you clearly either didn't read it properly, or just simply failed to comprehend the points being made - particularly given the manner in which you've since criticised others for misunderstanding your own points in the comments section.

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awesomeabe19981464d ago

I didnt have to read the article to tell you why we do not need to worry about the Wii U too much. We have games like:

2013(Not Including 3rd Parties)
Wonderful 101
Wii Party U
TLOZ: Wind Waker HD
Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze
Super Mario 3D World

2014(Not Including 3rd Parties)
Mario Kart 8
Super Smash Bros 4
Bayonetta 2
X
Wii Fit U(I think)
Yarn Yoshi

If you think thats it you are wrong!

Miyamoto's NEW IP!!!!!!!
NEW POKEMON RPG!!!!!!!!!
PLUS GAMES TO BE ANNOUNCED FOR 2014!!!!!

If you still disagree... Go buy another console and enjoy your little exclusives.