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Submitted by darkride66 382d ago | news

BioWare writer quits after death threats to family

The senior writer on Dragon Age II has decided to leave developer BioWare after ‘graphic threats’ were made to kill her children.

Jennifer Helper was working on sequel Dragon Age: Inquisition but is quitting BioWare this week to go freelance, in large part thanks to threats she and others of the team received in the wake of Dragon Age II’s release.

The game was unpopular with many hardcore fans and although Hepler was able to ignore most of the threats and abuse on the BioWare forums and Twitter she also received emailed death threats and threats against her children, as well as abusive phone calls. (BioWare, Culture, Industry)

Update Hepler's clarification as to why she's quitting:

“[L]eaving Bioware was for family reasons. I am going to be working on a text book on narrative design among other game-related freelance projects.”

http://www.pcgamer.com/2013...

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Phil32  +   382d ago
As if we needed more proof that a lot of gaming culture wasn't already horrid.
majiebeast  +   382d ago | Well said
No its not gaming culture its internet culture and 4chan more likely. Being anonymous makes people think they can say or do whatever they want on the internet.

My little sister is getting death threats over the phone by some freaking psycho and police dont do anything about it. I think anonimity should only go so far. If you harras people or send em death threats, then i dont give a shit about your privacy and all your information should be put on the internet for the world to see.

I never liked miss Helpers writing or her stance on videogames but i would never send somebody death threats over it.
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zeal0us  +   382d ago
I'm surprise she didn't quit sooner. I know after that last incident I probably would have.

With all that said threatening to kill a person's kids is going way overboard. I don't care how much you dislike a person, leave their kids out of it.
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Septic  +   382d ago
Completely agree majie. That's what I despise about the communities like 4chan who just think its cool to insult everyone/everything behind the veil of anonymity.

I make it a point to only post things I would be man enough to say to someone face to face. If only others could follow suit.
Ritsujun  +   382d ago
Worse than otaku's.
The_Klank  +   382d ago
I make it a point to put my Psn Id & Gamer Tag or some other way of contacting me on all my profiles, no matter the site, so if I say anything someone finds offense with they can easily contact me. I hate the fact that just because people are on the internet all civility goes out the window.

I would hope that all sites require some other way of contacting the person. Privacy be damned, as long as you're not out there posting CC details or other really personal info you have nothing to worry about imo.
cleft5  +   382d ago
Either way this crap needs to stop and there needs to be real repercussions for this nonsense.
slimeybrainboy  +   382d ago
I still think death threats are overrated. I get that it doesn't feel nice and you're pretty strange if you're dishing out death threats over a video game, but nothing is really going to happen.

Of course the threaters should be prosectued and face heavy legal penalties, but they are empty threats. Think of all the hundreds of death threat stories we've heard throughout the years, and has any developer ever been murdered or even attacked? I've never heard of it.

I'm not saying devs should just lie down and accept it, but the responsibility should be with the police to find and punish the people making threats, the devs should know that these are empty threats despite how nasty or crazy they seem. Don't let them win.
SilentNegotiator  +   382d ago
Musicians, actors, etc get death threats all of the time.

It's foolish to think that this is gaming community specific.
RememberThe357  +   382d ago
It's funny, the biggest baddest dudes behind a keyboard turn out to be the smallest weakest dudes in the flesh. Some people just feel very weak and they grasp at anything they precieve as power (power that doesn't take any actual effort).

I've gotten death threat myself from the internet and I can't help but laigh; I got my piece and a bottle of J right next to me, I'll be here when you get here. It's so pointless and sad that I honestly just shake my head at this point. There are some very sad, very lonely people in this wolrd and instead of putting in the work to make their lives better they regress into the internet.
LordDhampire  +   381d ago
Everyone always blaming 4chan, take some responsibility you douchebag gamers
KazHiraiFTW  +   381d ago
That's really lame, who would ever believe some spineless fanboy making threats over the internet...

Whoever sent those emails to Ms. Helper is nothing more than some loser living in his mom's basement, 38 years old, never been laid, never even kissed a girl, still has zits all over his face, his parents bought shares in Kleenex and became rich from all the tissues he was using, he still wears tear-aways, and spends most of his time making mods for Baldur's Gate 2. Oh and his diet consists of almost 100% Kraft dinner and cheetos.

Nothing to worry about whatsoever let alone quit your job over.
pixelsword  +   381d ago
LOL beat me to it Kaz!
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darx  +   381d ago
No doubt that gamers are the sadest and lamest bunch out there.
Septic  +   382d ago
I know right? Its infuriating.

Wretched keyboard warriors. We've had our second death here in the UK as a result of cuber-bullying.

I'm actually against anonymity on the internet. It brings out the worst in people and lets them think they're entitled to insult anyone and everyone under the sun.

These guys need to be held accountable.

"I was shown a sample of the forum posts by EA security,’ says Hepler ‘And it included graphic threats to kill my children on their way out of school to show them that they should have been aborted at birth rather than have to have me as a mother."

Absolutely despicable. Such cowardice. These oxygen thieves need to be dealt with so harshly.
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cleft5  +   382d ago
The reality is that there is no anonymity on the internet, it's just that people feel like there is because they have a username they can hide behind and they haven't faced any serious repercussions for their actions. Eventually the laws will catch up with the times and these threats will be treated with the seriousness that they deserve to be treated with.

People might mistake this as a violation of their rights, but it isn't. In America every citizen has the right to the pursuit of liberty, happiness, and freedom on top of their Human Rights. If you threaten someone you are violating their rights and you can be put in jail for it. The problem is that the law hasn't recognize the threats received over the internet as serious concerns mainly because the laws are out of date with the current technology. That has begun to change and I think it will be for the best.
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Hydralysk  +   382d ago
You'll probably be waiting a long time for that.

You aren't talking about just passing a law for the US, this is something that plagues the internet instead of a single country.

How are you supposed to prosecute someone talking to you from another country which doesn't have a ban on this subject? It wouldn't be long before the 'but they don't have to respect me, so why should I follow this law' gets started. Furthermore, even if both countries have similar laws, which country will actually be prosecuting the offenders? That's not even considering the sheer volume of cases that would pop up.

I agree we need to do something like this, but it's going to have to start with individual organizations and communities putting in the effort, not by government legislation.
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Shadowstar  +   381d ago
@Hydralisk: Yeah, but that's what treaties are for. There just needs to be political will to stop it. It does have to start with individual countries starting to take it seriously though. I think we'd be better off prosecuting people who threaten to kill kids than nonviolent people who take drugs.
darkride66  +   382d ago
While Dragon Age II didn't live up to the original, it was still a perfectly entertaining and serviceable action rpg that I thoroughly enjoyed. If we didn't have the first to compare it to, chances are no one would have said a word.

My heart goes out to Jennifer Hepler that she has to endure such abuse from these petty cowards when all she's doing is trying to entertain. I know the abuse was only part of the reason she left, but no one should have to go through that. I don't know why they aren't tracking down these people and placing charges as threats of violence online or otherwise are always illegal. It's time we started holding these people accountable for the constant state of fear their bullying forces good folks to live in every day.

Edit: I agree with Septic above. Internet anonymity is toxic and brings out the absolute worst in some people.
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IcicleTrepan  +   382d ago
So one or two sick people make death threats and this becomes 'proof that a lot of gaming culture is horrid'.
Septic  +   382d ago
No it doesn't but it does expose a worrying trend of increasingly toxic behaviour by some members of the gaming community. The few always ruin it for the many and bad publicity is the last thing this industry needs.
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Deadpoolio  +   381d ago
To a certain extent yes...Look at XBL and the absolutely wretched crap people say on there to people over the stupidest crap, I actually know girls who wont play anything online with a headset cause they don't think it's worth hearing the crap morons spew because derp derp a gurl is playing a gaem, and somehow that means you have to be as vile as possible right off the bat..Nevermind that a couple of them are better than the douche nozzles
Timesplitter14  +   382d ago
Gaming culture is literally the worst entertainment-related culture ever. And it's not just because of anonymity either. Music and movie fans on the internet are nowhere near as immature as "gamers".

And god do I hate that expression. "Gamer". People who like novels don't call themselves "Hardcore Readers" and people who like movies don't call themselves... whatever I dunno.

There's just something about gamers that makes them worse than everyone else. Maybe it's because games are more likely to appeal to dumbasses than any other media. Don't get me wrong here; I believe videogames can grow as a medium and become something fantastic, but right now there definitely is no reason to be proud to be a "gamer"
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xxBiG_BoSSxx  +   381d ago
If you think people like this don't exist amongst movie or music fans, then I invite you to browse over to any music or movie forum and see the vile things being said there. Or better yet, read the comment section of anything, anywhere on the internet. Terrible, immature people are everywhere, not just in the gaming community.

Actually, now that I think about it, despite a few trolls, N4G has the one of the most intelligent respectable communities I've seen. I rarely see commenters here hurling vile hateful speech at each other. Or death threats.

I don't think its the word gamer you have a problem with, but rather the stigma attached to the word. When a small percentage of us act inhuman, and it makes the news, it sticks to all of us. The same can't be said for cinemaphiles(what movie lovers call themselves) when one of them makes death threats against a director or actor. That's always on the individual, as it should be.

I think the only solution is to just keep being good people, and not tolerating behavior like this. Eventually, maybe, others will see that gaming is something we do, something we can be proud of doing, but not something that defines us as people.
Sony360  +   382d ago
I just want the names and addresses of the people who do this kind of thing.
Deadpoolio  +   381d ago
You could actually do an IP trace IF you had the software, but that's not really something everyone just happens to have laying around....And It all depends on where the little douche is sending it from
come_bom  +   382d ago
People making death threats should go to prison... and that's that.

Gaming blind fanboys (or any kind of blind fanboy) are among the worst kind of scum.
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Sony360  +   381d ago
People willing to make death threats over a game really need a reality check.
3-4-5  +   382d ago
Well, she shouldn't have to quit because of that, and it's a shame if that person isn't jailed for a few years.

You have the right to freedom of speech, but people have the right to their own personal safety first, and if your free speech infringes on their ability to pursue happiness and be free, then you've crossed the line.

Whoever made those threats, most likely is a useless human being.
TwistedMetal  +   381d ago
dude you don't quit your job just because people make threats. you need money to survive. he should know they aren't gonna do what they said they are or he should said sorry for whate he did wrong and will never do it again.
mii-gamer  +   382d ago
wow this is shows pathetic certain people in the community are!
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Lukas_Japonicus  +   382d ago | Well said
This is the kind of story you hear about that get used in an anti-games speeches and makes the rest of us completely normal gamers sound bad.
Lukas_Japonicus  +   382d ago
This is the kind of story you hear about that get used in anti videogames speeches and makes the rest of us completely normal gamers sound bad.
Lukas_Japonicus  +   382d ago
My bad on the double post, N4G is acting up.
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MrReeves  +   382d ago
Nah man
_LarZen_  +   382d ago
About time more people is hold responsible for what they type or say online.

More people should start reporting harassment and threats online to the police.
CaptainPunch  +   382d ago
This is f*cking sad, and we wonder why gamers aren't taken seriously. What a joke. I feel bad for her. I wish these threats were taken more serious. People need to know that words have consequences. The Internet can be a pretty f*cked up place.
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MrChow666  +   382d ago
retarded people + internet = no good
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iconic56  +   382d ago
I don't always sigh out loud, but when I do it's usually to something as immature as this shit.
Legion21  +   382d ago
I never understood why gamers are so entitled. Developers/writers put their hearts into these games, only to have their "fans" bash them. But to go as far as death threats is absolutely ridiculous.
MiasmaDodo  +   382d ago
most of the comments on here, seem to suggest Internet trolls should be "jailed, fined etc..."

thats a scary thought.
Freedom of Speech/Expression should always win.

Arrest the trolls when they show up too your house, or physically stalk you etc...

words are words til You allow them to be more
CaptainPunch  +   382d ago
Death threats are nothing to joke about.
LocutusEstBorg  +   382d ago
No use once you've been murdered.
darkride66  +   382d ago
"Freedom of Speech/Expression should always win."

Freedom of speech doesn't mean you get to say anything you want. The wording may be different from state to state in the US but the law is clear when it comes to threats of violence made in person, online, mailed...it doesn't matter. If you commit a crime you should pay the price.
spartanlemur  +   382d ago
It's important the line is well defined though. A threat of violence is very different to name calling.
Cyberbullying is not and should not be a crime (children should sooner be banned from the internet than that happen), as this would heavily restrict freedom of speech (I'm talking about the Ask.fm girl here and her vengeful father).

I fear that politicians may use media support to throw both into the same category despite the huge difference which exists between them (one being a threat to break a serious law and the other not).
darkride66  +   382d ago
Any new laws drawn up to address cyber bullying need to be clear, I agree, but I don't agree that it's not a crime. It's criminal harassment, plain and simple.

Threats of violence are completely different and don't need cyberbullying rules. They've been illegal for some time.

"Any person who willfully threatens to commit a crime which will result in death or great bodily injury to another person with the specific intent that the statement made verbally in writing or by means of an electronic communication device is to be taken as a threat even if there is no intent of actually carrying it out"
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steve30x  +   382d ago
Here in Ireland its become Illegal last week to threaten a person on the internet and you can be jailed for doing so. Cyber Bullying is taken extremely seriously here in Ireland. As for freedom of speech , some people here on N4G dont believe in such a thing.
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aLucidMind  +   381d ago
Sure they do, just when they want it to. Egocentricism and all that.
spartanlemur  +   382d ago
Agreed somewhat BUT the only reason this threat is taken seriously is because that troll could theoretically carry out his attack, and so I sympathise with the woman.

Freedom of speech has a price though. We can either keep freedom of privacy and sacrifice freedom of speech or we can allow complete freedom of speech and have a society where every action is monitored so we can catch people who actually intend to carry out their threats with 100% efficiency. Not a dystopian police state though as it would have LESS rules and censorship.
This woman could laugh it off if she knew that the fool was of no threat, but he is in today's world, and so she's rightly concerned. Perhaps curbing freedom of speech in the short run is best until society accepts a Half-Life 2 style combine police force which gives people 100% guarantee of safety so that there exists no need to control causal factors in criminals, and focus on making murder impossible.

TL;DR version: This troll was nasty but was issuing a probably empty threat. Until such threats are impossible to carry out, they must be taken seriously and investigated. We either have 100% freedom of privacy or 100% freedom of speech, but not both in order to protect people. This will be the choice humanity grapples with this century.
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SpideySpeakz  +   382d ago
Threats of violence isn't protected under the Bill of Rights. Read it up.
Deadpoolio  +   381d ago
Freedom of speech doesn't mean you get freedom from consequence....I'm so sick of people who defend this crap with the crap excuse of derp derp freedom of speech....Yes you can say whatever the hell you feel like and if its moronic vile garbage that your spewing at another person, then your "freedom" should be prepared for the consequences.....

Anyone with an intelligence level above a 5 year old can manage to figure out use your brain when you run your mouth because there could be consequences, and NO Freedom of speech should NOT always win...
MiasmaDodo  +   381d ago
could anyone with the intelligence above a 5 yr old write a reply to an opinion without making fun of someones intelligence?

Yeah...because Freedom of Speech and Expression always wins.
fsfsxii  +   382d ago
I sometimes regret discovering the internet. I didn't intend to re-charge my connection again after it ran out. Had to because of study purposes
AceBlazer13  +   382d ago
internet just reveals how dark the world really is
fsfsxii  +   381d ago
I really don't understand. Do humans need to be dicks to each other??
cyguration  +   381d ago
"I really don't understand. Do humans need to be dicks to each other??"

Crucifixion of Christ, The Crusades, The Spanish Inquisition, World War I, World War II, Stalin, Mousillini, the King Henrys, the Mexican drug wars happening right now...

Humans are mostly always dicks to each other save for when laws keep them from getting out of hand.

Does that kind of answer your question?
fsfsxii  +   381d ago
Crucifixion of christ is wrong.

Even laws didn't keep wars from happening. Its really helpless.

At this point i don't want to have kids to witness this cruel world
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British_Knight  +   382d ago
There are really gross people in the world. I love DAO and I really liked DA2. Regardless wether ppl liked or hated the changes made to the game, it doesn't give anyone the right to treat other people that way.

Those weak, ignorant, anonymous "tough guys" wouldn't speak that way to me or most people in person. If I was locked in a room with a group of them I would straighten them all out and they would beg me to stop. It's just ridiculous.
Cam977  +   382d ago
"The story is also reminiscent of an incident last month, when fans threatened to murder a Call Of Duty developer because of minute changes to some of Black Ops II’s weapons"

Pre-pubescent children are worse than ever!
Stoppokingme  +   382d ago
This is what happens when people who lack the basic social skills engages in social media.
spartanlemur  +   382d ago
I don't see a problem with cyberbullying (sticks and stones - if you can't deal with it then don't use forums or twitter) from a legal perspective, but a detailed death threat is a different matter entirely.
There's a difference between saying "I'll kill him for this" and "I'm going to kill your children when they leave school" as the latter is both vile and detailed enough to indicate a potentially real threat while the former is just an expression.
As long as the police and government know their boundary when investigating such speech (death/rape/assault threats which appear somewhat real) then I see no issue with dealing with them. I just hope we don't see people getting arrested in future for saying honest things which aren't very nice like "you're fat" to people. Now that will be the day when Western Society becomes totalitarian.
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KittyEmperor  +   382d ago
You know I think people need to be forced to take an IQ test and a sanity test before they are allowed to use the internet. I'm all for free speech and all that but who the freak makes death threats and threatens someones kids that's just stupid. Honestly I think that the internet needs to be shutdown for a couple of years.
TrollCraftTales  +   382d ago
People are stupid....
e-p-ayeaH  +   382d ago
this only happens in america you know anywhere else this is considered rare.
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AceBlazer13  +   382d ago
i think its their food or the air or something
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thelaughingwiseman  +   382d ago
I hope she writes another successful game in the future. Just to erk the people that didn't like her writing/story telling. Nothing better to show up the people that didn't like you than by succeeding.
Max-Zorin  +   382d ago
These extremists stay doing what they do best. Making you lose whatever hope you had for humanity.
Commodore  +   382d ago
He shoulda stayed. I'd never let anyone control my life like that. People making these threats are just a bunch of pussies WHO WILL NEVER DO ANYTHING.
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WitWolfy  +   382d ago
This is just SAD.. I HATED ME 3 ... SO bad; REALLY REALLY HATED IT. But I'd never gave out death threats and tried to make the writers life a living hell.

these people need to be taken outside and shot... NOW!
AceBlazer13  +   382d ago
sadly thats true. one of them could be a hair away from killing someone or shooting up a school.
bigrob904  +   381d ago
at first i thought this was gonna be a writer from ME3. i thought maybe they should have people throw paper with the indoctrination theory printed on it at them on a daily basis, but not death threats.
GraveLord  +   382d ago
And calling the police to investigate never came up? Quitting your job is the best thing you could do?

99% of death threats aren't serious.
AceBlazer13  +   382d ago
and what if one she received was that 1%
SpideySpeakz  +   382d ago
"99% of death threats aren't serious"

Please, give us some statistical proof on this instead of pulling it out your buttocks.
Even if so, the person making the death threats are more than likely to get caught before the murder is carried out. So either way, you're wrong.
Dan_scruggs  +   382d ago
Way to diffuse the situation with made up statistics.
GraveLord  +   381d ago
I'm sorry I didn't use the international database for death threat calculations. Oh wait, there isn't one.
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Dan_scruggs  +   381d ago
Still no excuse for making shit up.
GraveLord  +   381d ago
Calm down no need to get worked up over this lmfao...WOW.
AceBlazer13  +   382d ago
then they wonder why the government is against games. holy shit ppl like this crush what little faith i have in humanity
animegamingnerd  +   382d ago
i hate freaking gamers some times
Jessica_VazquezGR  +   382d ago
Forum comments are one thing but the fact that it escalated to the point where she was receiving phone calls is completely out of bounds. I really wish there were a better system put in place to protect writers from that kind of harassment.
MacDonagh  +   382d ago
Hmm. The original article that this is based on this speaks a different story.

Read it here.

http://www.polygon.com/2013...

"When asked if the harassment led to her depature, Hepler told Polygon "No, leaving Bioware was for family reasons. I am going to be working on a text book on narrative design among other game-related freelance projects."

Metro are being sensationalistic douches about this and clearly a lot of users didn't even take five minutes of research to see if the article held any merit.

Jesus Christ. How foolish do you all look now? So many of you are calling for the right to throw your choice to be anonymous away because of a twisted news story with an agenda.

The end result of six billion years of evolution. Unbelievable.

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darkride66  +   381d ago
I read the Polygon article yesterday, and while I agree that Metro is guilty of sensationalism, the fact that she received these threats are not in question. It doesn't matter if they ultimately lead to her leaving Bioware or not, this article still draws attention to a real criminal matter that is rampant and this is a debate we should be having as new laws against cyber bullying spring up around the world (although the criminal threats she received are already illegal)

I don't think anyone here looks foolish for sharing their views on a very real problem. Dismissing the issue and belittling others doesn't simply make it go away anymore then it negates the opinions expressed above.
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MacDonagh  +   378d ago
@darkride66 "while I agree that Metro is guilty of sensationalism, the fact that she received these threats are not in question."

Of course not. When the DA2 thing happened, even I heard about it and I wasn't even connected to any gaming website until I joined N4G. I didn't even think it was that bad. The story had some interesting ideas and had a little more applicability than the usual Bioware archetypical story. It wasn't perfect by any means but there was room for improvement. She got unfairly blamed for all of DA2's bad design choices because she was a woman and an easy scapegoat.

"this article still draws attention to a real criminal matter that is rampant and this is a debate we should be having as new laws against cyber bullying spring up around the world (although the criminal threats she received are already illegal)"

Cyber bullying isn't something I condone. It happens all the time because kids aren't taught by their parents to be accountable for their words and the parents haven't taught them the dangers of being online and being prey for trolls.

The one thing that I have observed ever since I was old enough to understand things is that game developers get threats like this all the time. I can even remember as far back as 2001 when MGS 2 got released and the amount of anger that Kojima got because he wanted to stop making any more games for that series. Not to mention the majority of fans did not understand the greater meaning behind the game but that's another story for another day.

Kamiya of Platinum Games got loads of death threats for the Bayonetta 2 controversy. Mark Fish, while a bit of a silly sausage, has quit making games altogether because of the whiny, entitled bunch that is the gaming community.

I'm sorry DR66 but I just don't buy this outrage one bit. I think the gaming community are saving face by condemning this level of behaviour because they've done it in the past without any hint of remorse but now that there are kids involved; it's no longer acceptable? Whatever.

"Dismissing the issue and belittling others doesn't simply make it go away anymore then it negates the opinions expressed above."

Hardly. This will happen again because the gaming community are a bunch of hypocrites.
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