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Submitted by ShwankyShpanky 350d ago | rumor

Sony Reaches Programming Deal With Viacom for Online Pay-TV Service

Sony Corp. has reached a preliminary agreement with Viacom Inc. to carry the media company's cable channels on its planned Internet-based TV service, a person familiar with the matter said, a significant boost for the Japanese company as it races to secure content rights against technology firms vying to offer similar services. (Industry, Next-Gen, PS3, PS4)

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GribbleGrunger  +   350d ago | Well said
Bring this to PS3 and suddenly I can see another reason the 12GB PS3 makes sense. No cable box required.
The_Infected  +   350d ago | Well said
Wouldn't this makes more sense than pluging a cable box in like the Xbox One allows?
NewMonday  +   350d ago
maybe this will push over Cable networks to jump in.
golding89  +   350d ago | Well said
This just in: 100% of PS4 fans now think having a TV function is innovative and ok now

I guess better late than never for sony. I for one always thought they needed to do this. good for them

@all.. there we go with the "focus entirely" excuse. gimme a break guys lol I know you guys love me :-p
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GribbleGrunger  +   350d ago | Well said
I knew it wouldn't be long before the hypocrisy card was pulled. The issue was MS focused 'entirely' on TV at their reveal and the only reason they changed that focus is because of public outcry. People need to stop moving the goalposts to fit their agenda.
mxrider2199  +   350d ago
@golding it takes away the cable box and would probs be not behind a paywall so if anythign its innovative bc ur system is the cable box not a cable box hooked to anothe rbox
NewMonday  +   350d ago
@golding89

the problem is the focus, and the side attractions don't get in the way of the main purpose. the camera and media are available but are not forced or undercut gaming.
pedrof93  +   350d ago
Well if this is true good.

At least we don't need to plug a cable box in the console. So Ps4 becomes the One in all innovation that they claim to have brought. And in a better way.
Whitefire  +   350d ago
@golding89
I believe Sony has had their LiveTV app on PS3 for a couple of years now. It's hardly innovative to stream TV to your console.
HiddenMission  +   350d ago
@golding89

Still don't think it's innovative but as an added feature it's cool on both consoles. Plus if I'm reading this correctly I won't need a cable box with my PS4 where as with the XBOXONE you will...but I could be reading this incorrectly.
Virus201  +   350d ago
@GribbleGrunger

"The issue was MS focused 'entirely' on TV at their reveal and the only reason they changed that focus is because of public outcry."

That's incorrect. Microsoft announced before the May 21st reveal that their console reveal would be two parts. The first part (May21st) was the console/features reveal and the second would focus on games.

http://www.polygon.com/2013...

Check the date.
fr0sty  +   350d ago
Fanboys crying that would-be PS4 owners now want TV function... there's a difference between an HDMI port on your console that you have to plug a pre-existing cable box (if compatible) into vs. an online tv service that replaces your cable box.

It's apples to oranges. A Paywalled HDMI input with a cable guide is not the same as a standalone internet TV service.
No_Limit  +   350d ago
@Virus201,

Agreed. LOL, I like it that the oppositions just love to sidetracked what MS had already said about how they were going to reveal the XB1. The first reveal was clearly stated that it will be about introducing the function of the system and the entertainment features and E3 will be all about Games, Games, Games. Both came out true and it got somehow twisted into " MS focused 'entirely' on TV at their reveal and the only reason they changed that focus is because of public outcry."

Oh, well, just another day on N4G.
British_Knight  +   350d ago
Haha. Sony fans will say anything to bash Microsoft and XB1 to praise Sony and PS4. Everyone lambasted Microsoft for making XB1 an entertainment hub. Now, since Sony is venturing into Pay-TV it's a good idea.

Microsoft revealed an MTV app that people can use to watch MTV shows on-demand. Everyone, mostly PS4 supporters, said that MTV sucks (I agree to an extent). On the other hand, Sony's deal with Viacom will include MTV since Viacom owns MTV.

If you read the Wall Street Journal you'll discover that Son'y plans aren't far off from Microsoft's, but they are a step behind. Sony has to secure deals with individual company's: Disney, MTV which will be included in the deal with Viacom, whereas Microsoft is negotiating with cable providers: AT&T U-Verse, Directv and Time Warner; Microsoft's deal will include every channel available through the cable provider.
creatchee  +   350d ago
The disagrees for Virus201 and No_Limit remind me of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
WrAiTh Sp3cTr3  +   350d ago
Hypocrisy is hypocrisy which is why I can't take sony fans serious.
JokesOnYou  +   350d ago
"The issue was MS focused 'entirely' on TV at their reveal and the only reason they changed that focus is because of public outcry."

"Well if this is true good."

"At least we don't need to plug a cable box in the console."

".. there's a difference between an HDMI port on your console that you have to plug a pre-existing cable box (if compatible) into vs. an online tv service that replaces your cable box."

-....and just like that folks TV is now a attractive feature because sony said so. lol, wow, the hypocrisy is astounding but very entertaining.

-This is exactly why I said xbox fans have to have thick skin, micro/X1 is not perfect but I know this is a perfect example of why they always make minor things seem bigger than they are and make positives seem negative. I cuold understand if they were saying "'meh who cares" or "why is sony doing tv deals for ps4, I can just watch tv or a bluray without this, focus on games", but no all I hear is why this is OK NOW. Thats why nobody takes the constant grand standing by sonyfanboys seriously.
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WrAiTh Sp3cTr3  +   350d ago
gribble, where and when did MS focus entirely on TV?

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Point it out for me..
gaffyh  +   350d ago
It's just IPTV, nothing really new here. I believe MS already tried this and gave up on it, which is why they went the cable box route.
black0o  +   350d ago
@golding89: X1 revel was all about TV TV TV ... and yet sony at e3 gve like 20 mint to the entertainment department ''boring'' but it was 20 out of 120 mints and again we want x1/ps4 to hve other services but we want the games to remin at the CORE/hart

just like sony's doing with PS4
pedrof93  +   350d ago
@Jokesonyou

http://images.sodahead.com/...

This has been available on Ps3. This must a last hour feature that Sony pulled. Partially similar to all last minute 90° 180° and 360° turns that your beloved system took.

I don't mean to offend you, but apparently Ps4 is becoming a "All in One" due to all features that were announced. They should change their phrase, now it must be "Greatness in one".
PSVita  +   350d ago
@the_infected- maybe in the US and UK but I would think its easier to to have an HDMI IN considering how cable companies vary around the world. Great new none the less.
MELMAN26  +   350d ago
For all of those who say its about focus LISTEN:

MS is a company with a product, at their unveiling, they showed everything that their PRODUCT was capable of. Which is what companies usually do when they have a product.

E3 IS FOR GAMING, and all they did was show u games NOTHING ELSE.

Sony almost did the opposite, showed games at the reveal, then showed a bunch of social, tv, and other crap at e3 (along with games).

Is that not backwards to you all? MS did what they were supposed to do.

How can you say that Microsoft is not focused on games? Look at its lineup of GAMES.

You all can disagree all you want, but the truth is the truth. MS does something: enable tv = bad
Sony does something: create a tv service = good
MS: charges for online play = greedy
Sony: charge for online play = Smart

You guys do not see your hypocritical nature??????

It amazes me!
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darthv72  +   350d ago
@gribble...lol at the goalpost remark

truth is Ms has been playing both end of the field. one end has the tv features and the other end has the games.

both ends have a goal post in the same spot. no moving needed...just them playing both sides. now that sony has joined the game, Ms wont have to play both sides by themselves.

Now the game is really on. superbowl time.
Outside_ofthe_Box  +   350d ago
I don't really get why people are acting like Sony has never had any sort of TV feature/functionality before. The fact that people are ignorant in regards to that shows where Sony's true focus relies.

It's just now in the light of MS's goal of an all in one entertainment box that now people are making a fuss about it.

Unless I'm missing the part where Sony has been marketing the the PS4 as an all in one entertainment box all this time since it's reveal.

Either way this will just be an added plus that some will use and some will not if Sony is able to finalize the deal. It won't be a core feature of the console.
TheOneEyedHound  +   350d ago
The Xbox one is a cable box
MRMagoo123  +   350d ago
WTF are all you xboner fannies doing in here anyway i thought it was a sony site where sony fans trolled all the xbone news (bad news cos thats all xbone gets lol) gtfo and go get a life you sad lil kids. This is nothing like what MS is doing at all and will probably not be behind a paywall like everything on the xbone. I could care less about TV features i wont be using my ps4 to watch tv,It will be used for gaming.
Oner  +   350d ago
@ WrAiTh Sp3cTr3, Here ya go ~ http://youtu.be/KbWgUO-Rqcw

But to specifically clarify this SniperControl below replied to your comment perfectly

"...they are not talking about E3, they are talking about the reveal back in May, where MS showed hardly any games and talked about TV more than anything else."
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ohiostatesman  +   350d ago
Sony now copying MS. I'm so confused. Why are PS fans loving this now! Why are there so many hypocrites here. TVTVTVTV. I never seen so many happy Sony fans who are now loving about paying for online and TV and headsets and party chat. It's amazing really.
thechosenone  +   350d ago
Holy cow, Sony is trying to murder MS. xD Go, Sony!
Oner  +   350d ago
Uhh ohiostatesman then how do you explain PlayTV being on PS3 basically doing this before XB1? http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Does that now mean you are saying MS copied Sony? Also I don't see many people in this news going crazy saying they "love" this. If anything I see more people saying things along the lines of "cool optional feature if I might need it"
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SilentNegotiator  +   350d ago | Well said
I'll make this easy for the xbox fanboys calling the "hypocrisy" card.

Xbox One = Cable Box daisychain
This = Streaming TV service

Understand now? +1 trolling for the trolls pulling the "hypocrisy" card.
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BattleAxe  +   350d ago
The Xbox One is big enough on its own, nevermind the fact that you need a cable box in addition for it to work. The best part is that this will probably come to PS3, so there's no upgrade required, and my PS3 Slim is smaller than an Xbox One, which can only mean one thing.....PS3>Xbox Gone.
wsoutlaw87  +   350d ago
If sony can streem tv and save me money from these crazy cable companies that would be great. That is very different than xb one which just uses the box you already have.
rainslacker  +   350d ago
@Golding

Don't call out hypocrisy like this. It was three posts before you decided it was all PS fans that are now excited for TV functions.

Also, learn what PlayTV is before you even bother to make the comparison. It's been on the PS3 for a while now, and isn't remotely close to MS solution.
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Dmarc  +   350d ago
lmao @ everyone crying hypocrisy

@JokesOnYou
I really love how you explained how and why its hypocrisy instead of just going, "ooOo tv good now cuz sony have tv me smart me see tv here & der so both tv same ting" and giving advice to your trolling fanboy brethren.
Great input on this pal
/sarcasm
Besides the fact the word innovative ONLY came out of the mouth of the same people crying hypocrisy and that Sony is going about this a completely different and actually smart way, theres a plethora of differences between what Sony is doing and what MSFT is doing with TV function and a plethora of reasons one appeal over the other. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you actually know and recognise the abundance of differences and assume your just mad and want stir up an argument because your mad.
Flipflopp  +   350d ago
Sony had PlayTv Europe years ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
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ShinMaster  +   349d ago
You guys are clueless.

You seriously don't know the difference between a DVR(Xbox One) and an internet streaming service?

First of all, Sony did it first:
Xbox One is basically the PSX. A PS2 cable TV DVR (2003) http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
PlayTV on PS3 which people have been using for years now.
http://youtu.be/e3ma0U7GVrw
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
So Xbox One isn't "innovating" anything.

An internet streaming service doesn't require a cable box. It makes more sense than a cable box pass-thru because it's providing something that you don't already have.
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pyramidshead  +   349d ago
@silent, shin and flip
bubbs+
Kinda funny to see all out rage xbot fans get when they finally find that peanut they were looking for right at the bottom of the troll barrel and in consequence miss the entire point of the service and its differences to the XB1.
Dat red mist!
crxss  +   349d ago
if sony can lock down disney and time warner then it's pretty much over for xbox one's hdmi tv features. especially if viacom's channels are included in playstation plus. i wouldn't mind paying an extra $10 for all the tv services
abzdine  +   349d ago
big news indeed, i'm cancelling my cable TV if true, and even more if there is football i can watch cause it's the only reason why i have cable TV, for news and stuff i use internet on PC or phone
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Consoldtobots  +   349d ago
BOOM
ZHZ90  +   349d ago
Wow! Sony is beating MS!

EDIT: Intersting to see Xbox fanboys calling us "hypocrites" while they are so hypocrites about the history of MS actually.
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Blachek  +   349d ago
You Sony supporters sure are a fickle lot.

I gotta hand it to Sony though, they did a much better job presenting their console and allowing the backlash to fall on MS for their direction... before they themselves followed suit.
minimur12  +   349d ago
is it just me or is there only half an article?
Gekko36  +   349d ago
@all ok tv is tv. eithrr way you have to pay for it. either by having a cable subscription or a online ps4 tv subscription. I have sky tv and i love it. so it's a nobrainer to plug my sky+ box into xbox one. the only other option i have is to pay again for an online subcription however. much that is. mind you sky+ has the biggest uk on demand service as well as all the channels i want. i had the sky app on the 360 and it was great but the xbox one has all i want in one interface. how cool is that.!!!
XisThatKid  +   350d ago
Yea didn't everyone say that this was goin to be X1's Ace in the hole? Yea this isn't important but its cool and def a great addition to an already presumed great console. Yea When this was an Xbox exclusive everyone on Sony's side was all boos and geers but I'm just glad Sony isn't advertising it as a cable box and games second ya know. All the bells and whistles are an added plus. This is ok for me I haven't paid for Cable TV in 14+ years so this Netflix and Hulu and torrents I may never agian.
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iamnsuperman  +   350d ago
"but I'm just glad Sony isn't advertising it as a cable box"

And that is the big difference. People were not booing Microsoft for TV functionality but for the fact it was such a big focus. Their "Ace in the hole" (if you don't mind me using your words). Now if Sony spends all of gamescom talking about this then I will verbal criticise them. I doubt they will do this though. We have had Netflixx, Iplayer....on our previous consoles and adding more is a natural step up. However, the big thing is these things are still games consoles. What Microsoft did was draw attention away from that using buzzwords like "watercooler" and making TV seem like a huge focus. People still buy consoles to play games. Things like TV are the "nice" but not so important extras.
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Jazz4108  +   349d ago
Sony is going to claw and scratch and fight this whole gen because if the ps4 goes down then sony does as well as they are really close to sinking according to the financial websites. Sony is fighting for the life of there company.
XboxFun  +   350d ago
@Gribble

No goal posts were moved gribble.

There is no doubt from anyone here that the sony camp were relentless in calling the Xbox One a cable box or as you incorrectly mentioned the focus was too heavy on TV.

The early comments on N4G blew up and gained maximum heat from most posters criticizing MS and not wanting anything to do with TV for their gaming machine. And even when these features were always OPTIONAL it did not stop them from still mocking the Xbox as nothing more than a cable box.

As I have said before Sony was and IS going for the same goals as MS. To compete for dominance in the living room space. At least MS was more transparent in their goals.

But I am positive that these features for the PS4 will remain quiet and not gain as near enough traction as it did for MS. Either that or a spin cycle set to super. Which I am already seeing with comments (gotta love the sony fans on this site).

And MS is also securing TV deals with companies to do the same as Sony in this article they have already announced original programming. The whole HDMI in is an extra feature the Xbox One can do.
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iceman06  +   350d ago
I think that most gamers (Sony, Xbox, etc.) and the media walked away from the reveal underwhelmed. Why? Because the focus was not on the console as a gaming machine FIRST. MS billed it as the all-in-one entertainment device for the living room. You know when the last time we heard that was...PS3? Remember all of the comments of.."it's just a Blu-ray player? I want my console for games!" Then post reveal, somehow the tide changed and TV became cool and innovative somehow.
Point being, it's an added feature and it is good for those that like that much TV. It's not really special...for either console...it's just TV...you know...the same TV that most of either have already or have chosen NOT to have.
nugnugs  +   349d ago
@Xboxfun
"At least MS was more transparent in their goals."
Need I type more?
MrBeatdown  +   349d ago
"At least MS was more transparent in their goals."

Right. Who would have ever thought that a company that makes TV, and content, and TV content, and a console that's tagline was "It only does everything" would ever offer non-gaming features on their new console?

Sony totally snuck that one past us all. Should have mentioned TV at E3 or something. They did? Oh, well, maybe they should have put up a big screen that showed lots of non-game TV apps to really get the point across, like this...

http://www.gamernode.com/wp...

Oh, wait, that IS from E3.

Come out from under your rock some time. Weather is nice up here.
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KiLLUMiNATi_89  +   350d ago
Praise praise Sony now lmao... They bash MS for this but now N4Sony are ok with this.. Lmaoooo...

Sony n MS are aiming at the same crowd weather N4Sony like it or not... They both want to dominate the Living room... Praise praise....
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MRMagoo123  +   350d ago
except sony will dominate unlike MS with there bad news 180 console lol.
ShinMaster  +   349d ago
You guys are clueless.

You seriously don't know the difference between a DVR(Xbox One) and an internet streaming service?

First of all, Sony did it first:
The PSX. A PS2 cable TV DVR (2003) http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
PlayTV on PS3 (2008)
http://youtu.be/e3ma0U7GVrw
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
So Xbox One isn't "innovating" anything.

PS4 doesn't require a cable box.
showtimefolks  +   349d ago
You know what I don't get is how now all of the sudden every gaming site is run by playstation fanboys, it was that long ago when it was all about he almight xbox360 and MS so what goes around comes around

I for one am very glad because I had to sit through hundreds of ps3 doom or Sony going out of business articles or how Sony should get out of the console business

I don't have cable so if this is true I am interested, as long as I won't need another cable box to plug thought I am up for trying this

Notice how when Sony announces something that don't take it back within few months because they haven't made a lot of bone headed moves
Ausbo  +   349d ago
I don't think sony should do this. Its a good idea and all, but every sony supporter on this site rips on the xbox for doing tv...........but wait, since sony is investing in tv, it must be the right thing to do!!!!!!!!!!
ShinMaster  +   349d ago
You seriously don't know the difference between a DVR(Xbox One) and an internet streaming service?

First of all, Sony did it first:
Xbox One is basically the PSX. A PS2 cable TV DVR (2003) http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
PlayTV on PS3 which people have been using for years now.
http://youtu.be/e3ma0U7GVrw
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
So Xbox One isn't "innovating" anything.

An internet streaming service doesn't require a cable box. It makes more sense than a cable box pass-thru because it's providing something that you don't already have.
Gamer1982  +   349d ago
This will come to PS4 no doubt in my mind, MS been after a deal like this for years and Sony beat them to the punch they gotta be gutted they did it. This deal could shift them millions more PS4s as they could subsidize the box in return for a contract.
DA_SHREDDER  +   349d ago
that would save me over 50 bucks a month, i got 5 hd tvs and cable boxes cost over 10 a month to rent
Xsilver  +   349d ago
i haven't watched cable in three years which is why i didn't care about the xone tv stuff since i knew i would have to get a cable company. But i go online to watch walking dead the community and parks and rec but if this is true then why not, since Sony owns most of these shows then that means i can stream them on my PS4 no cable box required add that in with Ps+ and i'm good.
Is it me or is Sony becoming the all in one box with gaikai you get all old games to stream which is BC in its own way now stream tv without needing another box.
Notramagama  +   349d ago
This is ALREADY on xbox 360. FOR FREE!!! VIACOM MTV, NICKELODEON, AND CC apps. Sony fans stay blinded
HammadTheBeast  +   349d ago
It's behind a pay wall and more like YouTube gtfo.
alb1899  +   349d ago
Sudenly every one is ok with a console capable of featuring this things!

WAO!
All what you fans criticize from X1 just were tears because you SONY fans wanted the same......oh man!
kenshiro100  +   349d ago
For all the 360 fans crying hypocrisy...you don't get it, do you? Microsoft just focused on entertainment and not enough on games.

That was the issue.

But keep trying guys. Maybe one day your 'ah-ha' moment will come.
ZodTheRipper  +   350d ago
If it's gaining them money that they can spend on game budgets again I'm ok with it.
timl241  +   349d ago
This is my problem...

Microsoft says you can plug in your cable box through the HDMI in port and you get all your TV channels. They get absolutely BLASTED for doing this feature. In my opinion, it's a great feature. Now I can instantly switch inputs between gaming and TV. Don't have to always lose the remote (big thing for me) and wait a few seconds for each input to load.

Sony says they made a deal with Viacom to allow the streaming of their channels. And now Sony fans are sucking their dicks saying this is awesome because you cut out the need for a cable box. That's all well and good, but I'd rather just hook up a simple HDMI cord to my console and have EVERY channel instead of having to stream channels that will more than likely cost to access. And don't use the cable box fees excuse. Most people here probably already own cable boxes because of their parents anyway.

All I am saying is every time MS does something it is terrible. Every time Sony follows it's great.

MS charges for online and that's bad, Sony charges and it's suddenly okay. MS makes it so you can hook your cable box (better technology), Sony makes it so you can stream some channels. Now all of a sudden Sony is great. HYPOCRISY at it's finest. I guess PS fans are infamous for it.
Khajiit86  +   349d ago
Is the cable connection free?

PS+ has free games..... EVERY MONTH.
I dont need PS+ right now to play online but I have it because it is an amazing feature. Discounts on countless games, apps, gamer pictures, dynamic themes, free games, free apps, free gamer pictures, free dynamic themes..... you get the point.

I own a 360 as well and XBL simply cannot compete.
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AceBlazer13  +   349d ago
do i think sony should start charging for online play ? hell no. but to compare ps+ to xblg is plain as hell ignorant. dont go preaching about hypocrisy when xbox fans show their relief for every feature that has been changed to this point , the same features that they were supporting the day before.
timl241  +   349d ago
Listen. I've supported MS since the beginning. It's all the Sony fans like you that were trolling about it that changed it. Just admit it, the Xbox one has a better feature. And you are right. Cable isn't free. But I can almost guarantee this will cost extra money. I'd rather hook up my cable box, seeing as I have cable anyway, for free. And I will also have triple if not quadruple the channels. Just like Xbox Live is better than PS+, this is better than Playstations TV service. Just end it.
XboxFun  +   350d ago
That's pretty cool that the PS4 will have a good amount of TV functions.

Edit:
But I am pretty sure that most sony fans do not care about the TV functions of the PS4.

@Godmars
Nothing wrong with the Xbox camp since we were embracing the TV functionality from the very beginning. Maybe you should speak to your Sony camp and their limited short vision as they mocked MS for the supposed focus on TV functionality of the Xbox One.
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Godmars290  +   350d ago
What is it with the Xbox camp and this limited thinking?

Can't speak for anyone else, but I've said multiple times that I bought a PS3 for multimedia as well as gaming.

And given that its taken eight years to deliver on what both MS and Sony promised at the start of the PS3 and 360, both should be ashamed. More so that its coming in the forms that they are.

Edit:
Actually, it was being mocked for 1) being behind the paywall, 2) requiring a cable box and 3) being touted for DVR functionality while not actually having any.

I think the real arguments started because MS wasted a good two thirds talking about TV during their first presentation. With the rumors of what they had intended with used games and all already strong then, that mistake lead them to being further unbalanced at E3, only talking about games, and ultimately has lead to the mess they're currently in with all of the 180s.

Now to top all of that off Sony might just be doing their own thing with TV, and if not doing it better, may at the very least be able to do it w/o a cable box and a paywall atop any other fees.

If such turns out to be true it would only lead to embarrassment for MS after all of their posturing.
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British_Knight  +   350d ago
The XBOX camp loves multimedia features. The PS4 camp say they only care about games nothing more.
DigitalRaptor  +   350d ago
@ British_Knight

The PS4 camp has the sense to know that a gaming console's reveal conference should not be mostly about non-gaming features.

We've known for years that Sony would have TV features in PS4, since PS3 has had them for years, but they're not what the console is built around, and looks better for it.
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Khajiit86  +   349d ago
PS3 is the original all in one device. As a PS3 owner I already know games will not be the only great thing about the PS4, but games is what attracts me to it.
starchild  +   349d ago
I'm a PC gamer mostly and this console fanboy crap is annoying.

All this talk of stuff "being behind a paywall" is ridiculous and irrelevant. All of you console gamers are going to be paying to play online anyway so it's a pointless distinction. No hardcore gamer is going to forgo gaming online on their console.

As far as the different implementations of getting tv on these consoles, it's fundamentally the same thing. Both consoles will have TV streaming, while one simply also allows you to pass the signal of a cable or satelite box to integrate it into the console's UI.
XisThatKid  +   350d ago
I agree besides one thing, alot of "the Xbox camp" was not on board with the cable thing xbox corp and fans alike but I see what your saying though. BUt then agian alot of the people I'm referring to is already converted to "The PlayStation Camp" thus not X1 camp anymore thus making said statement still true I guess. I'm not being facetious btw.

this is my previous comment as well for reference to me as a long time Sony fan recieving this "news"

"Yea didn't everyone say that this was goin to be X1's Ace in the hole? Yea this isn't important but its cool and def a great addition to an already presumed great console. Yea When this was an Xbox exclusive everyone on Sony's side was all boos and geers but I'm just glad Sony isn't advertising it as a cable box and games second ya know. All the bells and whistles are an added plus. This is ok for me I haven't paid for Cable TV in 14+ years so this Netflix and Hulu and torrents I may never agian."
sckipt  +   350d ago
you are mostly right about us not caring but its always a nice feature to have but diffidently not something im going to praise over
AceBlazer13  +   349d ago
your embracing it now but im sure if it ever gets removed you'll be glad its gone.
solidworm  +   350d ago
TV is shit period.
badboy776  +   350d ago
I'm a 90's and 80's head. Todays TV,Music, Entertainment is garbage!!!

Saturday Morning Cartoons don't even come on anymore for the kids.
pedrof93  +   350d ago
I'm european and I share the same opinion as you.
HammadTheBeast  +   350d ago
I don't know, Cartoon Networks still good, but the rest is pretty bad. Only good TV shows in a while have been Game of Thrones, Walking Dead (partially) and Breaking Bad.
kingPoS  +   350d ago
I know right. Most of the cartoons today are conservative marshmallow fluff. lol

The 90's were kickass, especialy after school.
SilentNegotiator  +   350d ago
This is for you:
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

You only remember the good shows, that's the problem. All good entertainment, of every medium, is a flower in a manure field.

"For instance, what survives from the Vietnam era (thanks mostly to Vietnam movies) are songs like the badass protest song "Fortunate Son" by Creedence Clearwater Revival and "Gimme Shelter" by the Rolling Stones. Both were released in 1969, after the war started going bad. Now look at the Billboard year-end singles charts from 1946 to today. The top song in 1969? "Sugar, Sugar" by the Archies"
--Cracked

Do people today listen more to the f***ing Archies, or cherry picked songs that didn't even all top the charts?
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PickAShoe  +   349d ago
I use TV for weather channel lol, other than that read news in the web.
DirtyPimp  +   350d ago
as a ps4 fan i couldn't care less about this
AnimeAvenger  +   350d ago
DAE 90's kids!?!
thetruthx1  +   350d ago
I thought it was bad to have TV functions

Now it's cool I guess lol
dcj0524  +   350d ago
No. It's bad if you % 65 of you're event is TV TV TV TV TV NFL TV TV COD
WrAiTh Sp3cTr3  +   350d ago
Where was this 65% of tv shown? At what event? Was it this one? http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Point me to the part where tv starts. Seems to me you bumped your head, lol.
SniperControl  +   350d ago
@WrAiTh Sp3cTr3

That is the second time you have posted the E3 show, they are not talking about E3, they are talking about the reveal back in May, where MS showed hardly any games and talked about TV more than anything else.

Seems to me you must bumped your head and knocked yourself out to miss that...........lol
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Oner  +   350d ago
@ WrAiTh Sp3cTr3, Here ya go just in case you missed my earlier reply for some reason ~ http://youtu.be/KbWgUO-Rqcw
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Narutone66  +   350d ago
@Oner, he didn't miss the reply, he's just intentionally ignoring it. It's probably called selective blindness, which comes with selective amnesia.
DirtyPimp  +   350d ago
nobody is saying its cool...
mark134uk  +   350d ago
it would be a great addon to the ps4 that i would never use
GreenRanger  +   350d ago
So, TV is awesome now? DAAAYUM!

I..I can't keep up with all of this.
MrBeatdown  +   349d ago
The funny thing is I don't see anyone really excited for this, or treating this like any kind of big deal.

It's just the usual handful of Xbox fanboys using this as some kind of excuse to treat PS fans as if they are hypocritically jumping for joy over this.

Next we'll see PS fans called hypocrites because they own a TV.
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Ripsta7th  +   350d ago
^^^
Hahaha So now TV matters all of a sudden ?? and ps3 had this years ago? LOl i knew thats what i was going to read
kenshiro100  +   349d ago
No one ever said TV mattered. Get a grip.
Thomper  +   350d ago
Tv on ps4.....

<sniggers>
SmokingMonkey  +   350d ago
lol, i think it's 'snickers'

what's up my snigga!
GreenRanger  +   350d ago
I'd love a Snickers right about now.
Thomper  +   350d ago
Mmmm snickers
deathstriker  +   350d ago
Netflix and Hulu still seem like a WAY better option. I'd rather step on glass than stream anything from MTV, BET, or VH1. Nick has Legend of Korra... and what? All in the Family reruns? No thanks. If they'd made a deal with FX, HBO, Showtime, or AMC then that would've been cool.
British_Knight  +   350d ago
Microsoft's tv deal will provide every channel a person has through their cable provider. So if you have HBO, Showtime, FX or AMC you'll be able to watch it through XB1 with all of XB1's UI features, which will be better than Directv's, U-Verse and Time Warner's guides.
devwan  +   350d ago
@Brithsh_Knight "Microsoft's tv deal will provide every channel a person has through their cable provider."

So does plugging your cable box directly into your TV, making use of that often overlooked little black box called the TV remote. Just sayin'
rainslacker  +   350d ago
Ummm...that's if your cable box supports the X1 control feedback. Up to now I haven't read anything suggesting any kind of compatibility list. I think as of now, Comcast and Viacom are the only ones thought(ie. speculated not confirmed) to be supported at launch. Even that may require a receiver update. How much you want to bet that the cable companies are going to charge an extra fee for those boxes? They already up-charge everything they possibly can. Cable is a complete ripoff given some of the other options out there.

X1 will use the HDMI-CEC or IRBlaster protocal. Not all cable boxes support that. Not even close.

On a side note: Sony's slim PS3's support this standard. It's likely the PS4 will as well. If enough Sony customers fussed about it, they could implement cable box control as well. It wouldn't have the MS cable box UI though. Shocker huh?
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Godmars290  +   350d ago
Yeah, the only real way this would work if it were A la carte. Pick and choose the channels you want.

That, and if they can do it w/o a cable box. Can use it on the PS3.
WeAreLegion  +   350d ago
But...I love All In The Family.
LoveOfTheGame  +   349d ago
Already get HBO on my 360. That with NFL for Xbox one hopefully means no more cable and just paying for those. I really hope it can work that way so I can cut my cable bill down.
SmokingMonkey  +   350d ago
NASNE says hello,

http://www.ign.com/articles...

truth is Sony has always been about cable/TV.

Remember 'it only does everything"

People think M$ is bringing something new to the gamers...but just like eye toy/kinect...they're not.

I'm all for more channels on my PS3/VITA/and soon PS4.
Ripsta7th  +   350d ago
truth is Sony has always been about cable/TV.
- didnt hear this wen X1 announced all of their TV features
XisThatKid  +   350d ago
It's true though, just MS is perfecting the sh!t out of it and advertised it as a cable box or add on before a game machine alienating it's original fanbase that was primarily watching the event in the first place. It just looked bad when PS4 was announced it was all about thte games and specs what people wanted to see then left everyone wanting more not showing the console. X1 was revealed and it was the cable features and confirmed bad rumors few games and a formfactor design for an acquired taste. The Sony fans didn't give a sh!t what they said. No matter what it was it was a better collective image than what MS was painting for itself.
point is its great for Sony fans especially since its the only major difference in the systems and its a added bonus not a selling point.

IMO this is also great with the added bonus of having columbia pics and other Sony pics for movies they have some pretty cool thing s to offer on the other media side
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DigitalRaptor  +   350d ago
Not only that, but PS3 owners have had the opportunity to invest in PlayTV for years.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

But of course when MS does it, it's a fantastic, unmissable addition and an innovation. And of course, Sony sucks on it cause they're apparently "only about the games" with PS4, (as if that's a bad thing). And certain people actually think Sony is not going to have TV features on PS4 that will do the same things. They will, and I could go ahead and bet that it won't be a system-wide focus, when a gaming console's overwhelming focus should be games.

@ Ripsta7th

They announced their TV features to debut their new console for the majority of the conference, and that is why you didn't hear the end of it. It seems I'm going to have to post this again: http://www.youtube.com/watc...
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maniacmayhem  +   350d ago
I think you really have it backwards. MS announced apps they get boo'd on this site, MS announces TV features and they get boo'd on this site.

This site has been over reacting when MS announces a feature(s) other than gaming and then holds Sony up to the sky for praising of the gods for doing the exact same thing MS is.

This is mainly due to a few more than vocal sony fanboys on this site who do nothing but bash MS for making a console that can do more than play games. This majority blows everything out of proportion and when the truth of Sony's agenda is reported it just really makes the more sensible sony fans look bad.

It is the same with paying to play online, and recently the whole RAM issue.

MS had stated time and time again that their reveal would be focues on the features of the Xbox One and that E3 would focus on games only. They delivered on that and big.
ShwankyShpanky  +   350d ago
I posted this more as a tit-for-tat to the One's TV focus. And it would actually be a one-up if it were part of PS+ and no cable box was needed.

To me, TV functionality still has negligible appeal and no bearing on my console purchase.
M-M  +   350d ago
"Oh so now that Sony is getting TV features it's okay, but Microsoft having them isn't?"

"Lol Sony fanboys are hypocrites."

"Looks like Sony is following Microsoft's lead on TV features. They have to play a little catch up."

Just the things you will be hearing in the comments section of this article. See, here's the difference. The PS4 is a console that's focused on gaming. The Xbox One is a device that has the ability to play games and is not centered towards gaming.
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Ripsta7th  +   350d ago
Is that why they have more launch titles atm than PS4?
And look at the comments, its the opposite we got PS fans sayin PS3 had this and that Sony had always been about TV
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M-M  +   350d ago
Sony has more launch titles currently and will have more after next week, and no one ever said "that Sony had always been about TV".
Whitefire  +   350d ago
Sony has more games in development than Microsoft. So why are you singling out Launch Titles?
DigitalRaptor  +   350d ago
Just end it. Stop with the short-term logic of "launch titles".

Microsoft had to show their hand, and sure they'll have more, but so will Sony. They have more games in development than Microsoft, more games coming to it due to getting their dev kits out much earlier, and due to good publishers relations (you'll see lots of third party, most likely Japanese developers making exclusive games like you have this entire gen for PS3).

Sony will and always has known how to pace themselves, and history is testament to this.
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Ripsta7th  +   350d ago
-M-M you cant be serious because i just read it up there.
Whitefire- How do you know that?? MS has had studios working on Next gen titles since last year
PSVita  +   350d ago
Sony has 20 first party exclusives while MS has 15
Whitefire  +   350d ago
@Ripsta7th
Shuhei Yoshida confirmed how many games were in development by their first party studios. 30 in total and 20 in the first year. Which Microsoft has announced 20 total 15 in the first year. Sorry for not mentioning that before.
nightfallfilms  +   350d ago
Didn't MS have a deal with Viacom with the 360?
Potato2  +   350d ago
I guess its cool will probably never use it.
PositiveEmotions  +   350d ago
WOOOOOOOW GREAT FUCKING NEWS MORE REASONS TO GET ME MORE LAZY AS FUCK!!!!!! Lol

But for reals tho this is some epic news for reals i hope sony announces this at gamescom or tgs i also wonder how much it would cost tho :).

Sony is going all out damn :) i love sony!!!! ^_^
AutoCad  +   350d ago
lol,sorry thats all i have to say.
Cmk0121  +   350d ago
Irony that Sony brings tv to console it's great MS does it and they don't care about games lol
SonyPS4  +   350d ago
Only on n4g.com/news
SpideySpeakz  +   350d ago
The difference is, Sony didn't go around branding it as a #1 feature like MS did.
MS put games on the backburner to attract the Casuals.
Sony focused largely on games in it's first opening reveal. First impressions matter the most.
Ripsta7th  +   350d ago
Nah, dey stated before the event that it would be separated into 2! one for console hardware and features, the other one would be games
jonboi24  +   350d ago
People are quick to assume this deal was made just for PS4. How silly this was made for their TVs, laptops, and probably their blu-ray players. For god sakes Sony owns TV shows and movie companies. They are in the entertainment business, this is a smart move to make in preparation for when cable TV slowly dies. Still better than plugging a cable box in a console.
kingPoS  +   350d ago
I may understand where some of this confusion is coming from, and why some may see it as a copycat move.

Problem is... people forget that Sony is also an entertainment company. The House Cards show from Netflix is on PSN... How? Sony Produced it!
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rainslacker  +   350d ago
They made this deal for their PlayTV service. That service is available on the PS3 and many other devices, both Sony made and not.

It's just IPTV. It's nothing new, and was never a focus on the PS3, just an added feature for those that wanted it.

Seriously, I see more Xbox fan boys calling hypocrisy than any Sony fan actually saying they care about TV on their console. In fact, I haven't seen a single PS fan say they care about TV on their console. At most they say it's a nice feature to have.

Jesus. I've been trying to stay positive about MS this past week. Giving them the benefit of the doubt, trying to see the good in what they're doing. Making reasoned responses, praising where I saw fit, and trying to say they're finally trying to do the right thing. But the Xbox fans make it so hard to take them(the fans) seriously.
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SonyPS4  +   350d ago
Oh so now TV on a game system is amazing. I remember everyone on this site bashing the XOne for even having TV and sports, accusing MS of not caring about the gamers. When Sony does it everyone here actually agrees with it. So fail...
Sarobi  +   350d ago
I already have cable and barely watch TV as it is now, but I guess this can be useful for those who don't have cable.
Butters360  +   350d ago
Good to see Sony follow through with their plans on providing a internet TV service when it was announced way back in January. The LONG awaited first steps for PlayStation TV are forming. Negotiate with the big guys and then just throw in everything that Sony Pictures produces and Sony had a clear winner here.

I expect this to eventually be a part of PlayStation Plus.
WeAreLegion  +   350d ago
Perhaps Sony will give us a REAL video game network. :)
cell989  +   350d ago
So no cable box required hu?
ZBlacktt  +   350d ago
I waaaannnnt my MTVVVvvvvv! Awh, how I miss the 1980's.
Dread  +   350d ago
lol

We will never pay to play online, people who pay for xbox live are idiots....

Playstation 4 reveal:

Paying for online is fine because it is PS Plus...lol

Playstation 4 is for games.... xbox one is just a tv ...
we are gamers and dont care for tv..

and now as always.... sony fans love tv.

double standards is the norm at n4g...sony fans you are amazing, thx for the laughs.

Hypocrites!!!!!
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ShinMaster  +   349d ago
XBL on 360 didn't provide anything like PS Plus.
PS Plus alone was great. People were already subscribing to it. So it's a bigger value than Gold. You guys still don't get it.

The Xbox One is a DVR. Very much like the PSX (PS2 cable TV DVR). Nothing revolutionary.
PS3 also has PlayTV and Nasne.

This will be an internet streaming service (no cable box required) for Sony's laptops and mobile devices, not just PS4.

There are more Xbox fanboys claiming that Sony fans love TV now, than actual Sony fans saying anything at all. Show me how many Sony fans have said they love TV now. Jumping to conclusions makes you guys seem desperate.
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sprinterboy  +   350d ago
Even fanboy wars is going next gen lol, thought this gen was bad enough. Can't we just buy our consoles of choice and be happy. all console manufacturers help push the boundaries of there respective consoles because of competition.
whitesoxfalife1976  +   350d ago
Fan boys today aren't really fan boys they just ugly lil republicans who don't like the world until they change it then its better
Deltaguy  +   350d ago
um wow this is actually a huge deal viacom/sony is doing something thats relatively new with cable this can potentially be huge
sckipt  +   350d ago
So let me get this straight the PS4 and Xbox one are now pretty much the exact same thing.....hm
Dlacy13g  +   350d ago
TV ...TV....TV.... lol.. couldnt resist. For those that didnt think this was coming you are fooling yourselves. And for those saying its different than MS...it is and it isn't. MS has deals in place now for Xbox 360 with Comcast and Verizon that is basically this. You will need to be a subscriber of said service with Viacom. Xbox One is different in that it will offer IPTV apps like this but also allow the HDMI input to run a cable box offering direct as well.

Anyway, bottom line is this kind of service is going to grow more and more for both Sony and MS...and your "games console" is going to continue to morph into an entertainment box whether you like it or not.

TV...TV...TV... Apps ...Apps...Apps... Yahooo!
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ShwankyShpanky  +   350d ago
"You will need to be a subscriber of said service with Viacom."

No, this is a deal where Sony would be the actual content distributor. With something like Netflix, Netflix is still the distributor, the PS3 is just the "portal." Whether you will have to pay Sony a separate subscription for the Viacom content or whether they'll include it with PS+ would be the question.

I wonder if they'll start doing tiered PS+. (PS++?)
Dlacy13g  +   350d ago
Interesting.... I can't imagine it won't have some kind of sub fee but regardless this kind of tv/video apps will be the future on these consoles.
Jeff257  +   349d ago
Most likely it will have a fee associated. But if Sony has enough content providers giving them access then it should allow people the choice of what content they want to watch and only pay for the shows or channels they want. Not one price for all like channels like cable companies do now. Also this isn't just for the Playstation brand. Sony is looking to put this on their TVs and other products as well. This is trying to compete with other companies looking to start TV internet streaming services. It could also push cable companies to change how they provide their services as well. Microsoft on the other hand is relying on agreements with the cable companies for their TV service and a lot of people are getting tired of paying high prices for many channels they don't even want. Cable companies need a kick in the ass to change and TV streaming on the internet can change it as long as people get the chance to pay only for what they want to watch.
Blackcanary  +   350d ago
How can people forget that Sony had Play TV for the PS3. So to think that Sony would never bring any thing to do with TV for the PS4 is just stupid. And to think Sony has never been about TV before is stupid to since Sony did the hole TV thing before MS with Play TV. Get ur facts right before you speak.
Outside_ofthe_Box  +   350d ago
Sony never made it a big deal that's why people have forgotten.

To me and you this isn't a surprise as Sony is only furthering what they have been pursuing before, but to others... "woah Sony's doing TV TV TV APPS APPS APPS too? lol"
Blackcanary  +   350d ago
LOOL so true. Off topic what anime is ur profile picture from?
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AznGaara  +   349d ago
Even before PlayTV they had the PsX. You know, the redesigned Japanese only Ps2 that had TV passthrough and DVR... sounds familiar right? Kind of sounds like one of the next gen consoles... hmmmm
Blackcanary  +   349d ago
OOOO yea i forgot about that i really wanted that. That PSX Design looks like MS took notices same shape size and everything.
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