Microsoft removing the need for a Kinect for the Xbox One to work has marked a complete 180 in their original policy for the next gen console.
"Kinect To Their Audience", I saw what you did there. LOL* *Sarcasm
AHAHHAHAAHAHAHAH so clever with the title. get it? Kinect as in connect. LOL ya no.
That's what I was going to say. I think he is right at Gamescom, we will see a $400 XBone SKU. They have to release a new SKU. Problem with that I don't think a lot of people will be picking up the Kinect as a standalone attachment. If the controller alone was $100M, I know the Kinect sensor was at least double that. Once they do I see their pre-orders going crazy. Meaning they will increase with the new SKU and the old SKU will be seeing a lot of returns/cancellations. I don't really know what to say about M$. While most people didn't like the XBone during E3 at least M$ had a vision, they were going to take risks and try to innovate. Now it's pretty much an improved XB360 with a $100M controller.
Smh people will still buy it even with Kinect if they dont than I dont understand why they still pay close to the same amount for the new Iphone/pad.
One can only assume that the reversal on mandatory Kinect is due to preorders still being below internal expectations; that's certainly why they dropped DRM.
Give me an Eroge on Kinect and I will buy X1 day one.
Its only failing to kinect if you consider hardcore Sony fans their audience. People are writing off kinect 2.0 without trying it out. Is it need for gaming no.. can it improve or contribute to gaming sure if used the right way. Is the X1 for pure gaming no, I love voice command for my apps what other gaming comsole offers me that option?
It's incredible how much Sony fans and their crying are changing the XboxOne. You would think they would focus more on their own console of choice.
microsoft doesn't change policies because people are crying abou it, they change because of sales, money motivates a company to change, not complaints, if people complain but money continues to come in or is at expected levels then no change needed. Sony "fans" can't change microsoft policy unless microsoft sees a reason to change (money/sales). So much stupid about your statement, if fans or critics had so much influence then COD would have changed game style ten times over, yet it hasn't it continues to pump out the same type of game with little change because MONEY talks, the same with Microsoft, no policies change unless there is a monetary reason.
Its incredible that Xbox fans arent showing any appreciation. Imagine if XBOne was still going to be as it was at E3.
Maybe that's your perception from forums. However, a multi-billion dollar corporation doesn't reverse course for some vocal fans of an opposing console. They look at media perception, they look at surveys (both internal and external), they look at trending data (like pre-order information) and then they make those decisions. It's obvious, at least to MS, that their "future" was not being received well. Whether that is from poor or lack of communication from internal PR, lack of understanding from consumers, or even ill-conceived ideas to begin with is of no real consequence because it just wasn't getting the traction that it needed in that form. Sure, there were fanboys that were just complaining mostly to troll. But, there were many vocal fans that were worried about a large, powerful company creating precedents in the industry that were not as beneficial to consumers as they were to those that already hold all of the control and power to begin with. These voices came from gamers (of all consoles) that just wanted to retain a modicum of consumer respect that is owed to a person that is investing in the industry as a consumer.
I agree Iceman, but the media is no longer a legitamate reprentation of how their target audience feels. The media is any tool with an internet connection. Microsoft needs to focus on selling us the features that they feel justifies a purchase instead of following artificial trends set by the media.
I don't mind trying out an XboxOne, but you don't have to show/talk more about Kinect ...."not interested!!!"
so you would rather them not talk about the extra 100 dollar add on that we've seen close to nothing about and leave that up in the air so that the arguing over its worth can continue into the future when people dont realize theres things happening for the device.
That's the problem... people are writing it off because Microsoft aren't selling the technology. All they have done is listed what it can potentially do without showing any of it off. Sort of like their Project Natal reveal and we all know how that went. I honestly thought gamescom would be their big kinect reveal with demos of what it can actually do and all that but they're not even live streaming their conference so I'm not expecting anything big.
I'm one of those fans that voiced my opinion that I disagree with the 24hr policy. Everything else I could careless. The trade policy I thought was great been that everyone on my friendlist has been on for my list for more than 30 days. They are not going to suddenly send friend request when the X1 debuts. And who is going pay 500 for a console and then skip out on the online portion. Sony fans cry about how you need online for this and as if when the ps4 debuts they're not going to pay for online sometime down the road. They will argue its just for multiplayer games. All the sudden its justifed to pay 50 just for multiplayer option. Anyways let's all pretend we didn't see all the kinect 2 demo videos
they can't say much on it because of sonys's thieving asses. Sony are total leaches when it comes to innovation. Microsoft will do a lot of things that the people like and Sony will still the idea. this happens time after time. Sony is so lazy. they choose to go sec with everything so they can still and counter. but the sad part of that is, they always do it too late and it doesn't or too well for them as it does for Microsoft. I wonder how many Microsoft system seller aditions will Sony still this time?
I'm hopeing they reveal some kinect stuff there. I want to hear about mod support with the device and some actual games. We dont want to hear more of the same resell the console too us. possibly announce a secondary plan that keeps to there old ideas while allowing the newer ones for those who want it.
I just don't want to be forced to pay for something I dont want or need
Voice command is a gimmick been done before, noone cares ...
Looking forward to gamescom especially after listening to the recent phil spencer interview on major larrys podcast episodes..the xbox one is going to be great...so far the xbox team has shown they got what it takes.congrats to the entire team.
Meanwhile, back in the real world...
Yeah that's some great word play achievement unlocked use Kinect in a troll based sentence.
Did it ever occur to people that the reason why ppl hate kinect is simply because it flat out sucks for games? It's been out for 3 years and has had nothing but a lousy wii sports knock off and a dancing game. Every time it tried to do something like rise of nightmares, fable the journey, steel battalion, star wars kinect it failed horribly. not to mention who the hell thought it would be a good idea to play a racer by holding your hands out in the air pretending to steer a steering wheel? kinect is gonna need to do a hell of a lot more than just a few gimmicky voice commands and facial recognition to get ppl to buy into kinect again. The fact that you can't even move around in a kinect game is just terrible.
Haha I just pictured a dude playing with an imaginary steering wheel, reminds me of a 5 year old pretending to drive a car , soo many reasons this is just dumb
Kimect 1 and 2 share nothing but a name and the fact it has a camera. Psn used to suck.. Obviously things can improve.. Or is that only if your not named Microsoft? Lol
Ive seen more done Mod wise that worked much better than those titles which is why im excited for it. It could benefit some games but has to be done right and NOOO SHOOTERS!!
I love it when their like kinect 1 sucked so kinect 2 is gonna suck too. That's like saying ps3 sucked so ps4 sucks too before trying it out
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