Thekingslayer.com "Yesterday Microsoft made the Kinect 2.0 coming with Xbox One not mandatory for use. It may just be the biggest about face yet on their part, and in our humble opinion a mistake"
No they Don;t have too... it is very possible they announce a Xbox One with out the connect. at a lower price point... There is nothing that supports them changing their mind on policies again... they have done it for many many many things.... From headsets to DRM to Connect needing to be plugged in all the time... MS will look at the pre order numbers again and if there is no bump... Look for a new sku to have just the system and not camera at a lower price point... It think that they will not do this at some point if they want to is just silly fan boy hopes... This is great news... the Camera does not have to be plugged in ... so sell a system with out one is the logical step... And it will increase pre orders and more gamers will be able to get the new xbox...
They'll do what ever they have to.The reason Microsoft looks foolish is because they are backtracking so much. Sony is adding/improving things while microsoft is backtracking on 70%(made up stats yay) of what they said. Not to say its a bad thing. Its good. Both have the same goal to get you're money but microsoft should've never put that stuff in the first place. The Conspiracy theorist in me tells me they did this to get publicity lol.
so MS aint improving the console huh? tell me what improvements sony has made. im waiting...
FAT MAN, NO, just NO, if they take it out to please you then they limit Kinect support over the lifetime of the console. *See the original Kinect, ps eye, ps move and every other peripheral for proof of this. Now see Nintendo with their new controller standard and even if you don't like the games so far the device itself is a part of their entire strategy and games. So which is better; to let people like you who don't want it, not buy it and spend your money on to play purely in the traditional way on ps4, or pc? or To limit the entire platform going forward because again Kinect will not be fully supported with a fractured base, which means folks who want to see the full potential of Kinect this gen won't and we ALL end up with two similar consoles with just a few different exclusives that's it? I think it makes much more sense to go forward with Kinect.
@ Fat Man Go Boom What a pile of rubbish I have already said this far too many times but here it goes again People find it laughable that MS have backtracked (done a 180) on so many issues concerning the X1, now some of these maybe deemed valid and justifiable. Yet some possible consumers have stood their ground and continue to say NO I am still not getting an X1!!!! With all the RnD that has gone into the tech powering Kinect 2.0 (which by the way is a direct response to what didn't work with Kinect 1.0) MS at some point have to start to believe and stand firm with at least some part of that original vision they had for the X1. They are never going to acheive that by making Kinect 2.0 an optional extra. They will never acheive getting cool Kinect features included in core games if it is deemed nothing but a gimmick. They would also end up breaking promises to developers who are keen to utilise Kinect 2.0 in their games if all of a sudden these features are only going to be used by a fragmented section of the X1 gaming community that might also impact some developers ability to turn a profit on their games. MS have already advised and confirmed that it cost as much to make Kinect 2.0 as it did to make the X1, so given that fact then it is amazing that it is actually only going for $100.00 when you think about it. Many have already stated the obvious which is that it is the KEY difference between it and the PS4. Now think of this, say they did remove it and released a Kinectless SKU for $100.00 less would you seriously pay the same price as the PS4 for a clone with weaker specs. Answer no you wouldn't plain and simple. I'm sorry some of you feel this is being forced upon you BUT!!!! as others have stated many times you don't want Kinect 2.0 simple buy the PS4 which gives you everything you want. Just think about it for a second an X1 without Kinect 2.0 is like going to the movies but ONLY being able to watch the premovie trailers. OR here is another one, its like driving a car without a steering wheel. The machine was built rom the ground up with Kinect 2.0 integration in mind from Snap to Skype. Yes they are now giving you the option to use the X1 without requiring Kinect 2.0 to be plugged in but its a very fragmented experience. If you want things to just look prettier but an experience that is more of the same then seriously the X1 is not for you the PS4 is....So just go get a PSN+ account and purchase a PS4. Haemorrhaging money just to please a small portion of your install base that you have no guarenteed knowledge ahead of time to predict that they will ACTUALLY buy your product is business suicide. Just think where we would be if the Wright Brothers hadn't invented and persisted with the airplane. Where we would be if someone had not invented and persisted with computers, gaming consoles, automobiles, cellphones even the internet. If gaming is to evolve and change then we shouldn't stand in the way but embrass it, even if it takes a few itterations before the tech truly finds its place. Seriously people need to just give it a rest. Then again haters are always going to hate so have fun with that.
People need to understand that all these 180's are to appease the masses the love to cry about anything. The thing people don't realize is that the things MS 180ed on will still be implemented so you get the full experience. You will always want to be online (cloud), download games (cheaper, family sharing, no disc), and have your Kinect plugged in (snap,skype, some games will require it).
No leave the Kinect in with the system for those of us who want more immersion and different experiences They can drop the price and keep Kinect
I think allowing it to function without kinect is fine and well.. Selling it without kinect is a bad idea.. When everyone has it.. It gives greater incentive to make use of it.. The future is bright, tho it is a shame we don't have any launch titles for it.. But I think I'm like most and want its secondary features, not motion gaming per say
if they had the kinect it was bad, when they change it its bad. Sony drones are running out of excuses to hate the Xbox One. Gamescon is right around the corner, be afraid lol MS is coming for the kill
Xbox one =good system, just not for me, love my 360 though. Ps4= like having an awesome curry with a big bowl of ice cream for afters and a couple of pints :) ps4 is just pukka.
This was the most stupidest comment ever give this guy an award for the biggest jackass
They need to keep it in the box or it would be no different than PS4! Stop listening to the poo heads! It is the one thing that keeps it unique!
MS should have justified including Kinect 2.0 in every box and making it mandatory beyond a few OS contols and some frivolous game features. Saying what it might do later isn't enough to justify to most $100 more for a less powerful console. MS had the tough task of selling its fan base on Kinect 2.0 as well as the console, especially after the let down experiences with Kinect 1.0. A game to launch with Xbox One that fully utilizes Kinect 2.0 and shows off how far advanced it is and what it brings to the table would have helped. Instead Ryse became a controller based game and Sports Rivals is delayed. Unfortunatly for MS the One started being developed in 2010 at the same time Kinect was such a big deal in sales they figured just include it with every box. They forgot to justify it though. So what does Kinect 2.0 bring to the table at launch? The ability to swipe to tv and turn your console on...all for the low price of $100. No thanks MS. Don't blame me for not seeing your vision, blame yourself for not selling your vision. Maybe all the complaining over mandatory Kinect and the resulting 180 is causing MS to finally wake up from its Kinect fetish. This may end up being the best thing MS did.
Leave it in.
Wow some people love to be sheep. The simple fact is, by keeping Kinect2 part of the box they can still sell the idea of Kinect2 functionality being a part of every console as a reason to incorporate it into the games. Why some people think that means you need to MANDATE it being plugged is the thought of morons. You have to be the biggest moron on the planet to think that mandating somehow will gain you ANYTHING. Kinect2 sensor IS the most advanced piece of spytech ever invented, and Microsoft IS the company who has sold your privacy down the river for DECADES...even before the lame and unreal excuse of Al-Qeada and 9/11. Guess what people you are spied on six ways from sunday, and Kinect2 would make things far, far worse. They made the right choice, and finally have done a 180 and allowed people to unplug it. Remember it was always an unnecessary and arbitrary decision to make it mandatory...like the always online or check in requirement. Now people who want to use the Kinect2 sensor and be spied upon can do so and be horribly exploited by it. Those that only want to connect it when there is an actual usage for it and then keep it unplugged the other 99 percent of time, can do so. Or for people who don't want anything to do with it, they can NOW buy the system and simply unplug it. Plus no matter where you fall on how you want to use it or not, if the Kinect2 sensor fails....you won't be left with a $499 brick. Remember people Kinect1 had problems and left many consoles in a update loop. You needed to unplug Kinect1, and then your system became playable again. Now they remove that problem which for whatever reason a Kinect2 sensor might stop working, it will no longer brick your entire system. The problem with the author of this article is that he somehow stupidly thinks, and I mean MASSIVELY STUPIDLY thinks, that if you mandate something, people will fall in line and be shown the errors of their ways. Sorry. It doesn't work like that. Removal of the NSA spycam mandate means millions of people now have an option of buying an Xbox One where previously there was no chance in hell of them buying it. We've really lost America when people think instead of doing things because they are a good idea, that mandating complete bs is just as good. But hey here in America we've seen all sorts of crap mandates from both sides of the political spectrum and so people have like morons gotten used to the idea that instead of doing things right, just use your might and the end result is the same thing. Nope. It doesn't work like that. Good luck
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